Part 8, KISS - The Problems of Stardom and Fame

[@andrewjohnson388]

Love the stories of debauched 70's antics!!

[@manolokonosko2868]

Unlike Ace and Peter, who grew up in the streets , were street smart , and developed social skills to make friends, Gene and Paul lacked them, but compensated for them by their hard and relentless work ethic. It’s a pity they couldn’t learn from each other instead of complementing each other only as band members.

[@carmenowens3375]

Excellent comment.

[@dwaynecollins4974]

That is an awesome and original (to me ) observance that hits it right on the head of the nail!

[@kevinchadler469]

I agree, Peter and Ace were amazing!!! Paul and Gene as well, but I didn't think my boy Peter the Catman Criss and Ace got their due in the early days and prime!!! It is a shame that the highest selling American rock band sad to say over the years have bashed each other and said very nasty things to each other? You would think they would be proud of their accomplishments and just let it go already!!! It is proof that fame and fortune doesn't always equal to happiness!!! 🤦

[@manolokonosko2868]

@@kevinchadler469 some people are simply not cut out to be successful, and should never be. It’s like the lucky bastard who wins the powerball and pisses it all off on bad investments like car washes, hos, divorces, and worse still: gambling. Plenty of real life examples.

[@davidpaul6656]

Too bad Gene and Paul fail to realize they'd still be living in shitty apartments if it wasn't for Ace and Peter!

[@wendypatton1932]

I could barely stand the last bit of this hearing Gene go on and on 😂

[@naturalbornscorpio929]

Gene likes to hear himself speak

[@scottanderson4175]

Paul I didn’t purchase a single Zeppelin record but I purchased the first 4 Kiss records several times to me Ace was so original and inspiring honestly I still can’t duplicate what he played on those records but I still try 🥂

[@scottanderson4175]

@Coogan no no no I’m just trying to say I never purchased a single Led Zeppelin record I couldn’t understand all the fuss about Jimmy he couldn’t ever play any of his own songs not to mention the songs he stole from others I was watching a video of Led Zeppelin live on KZbin earlier today and Robert plant looked over and said WTF are playing 😳

[@scottanderson4175]

@Coogan to bad he couldn’t play them live

[@scottanderson4175]

@Coogan dude I’m just saying kiss could actually play their own songs lol

[@scottanderson4175]

@Coogan in your opinion

[@scottanderson4175]

@Coogan some people think Metallica is the best someone people think Rush is the best some people think Pantera was the best I talked to a guy earlier today that thinks Motley is the best 😐 smoke a join drink a beer and enjoy your evening

[@Inferno5150]

Thanks for posting these videos!

[@kissdiaries]

Happy you are enjoying them

[@kevinchandler179]

Gene was talking about the early days he and Paul's apartment playing with Wicked fuckin Lester, saying the Madison Square Garden they were going to play there one day!!! If it wasn't for Peter and Ace bailed them out by winning the jobs, Paul and Gene would still be in that scumbag apartment playing with Wicked fuckin Lester people!!!! Lol Team Peter and Ace

[@lisag18]

As a Carpenters fan, i love that Gene had a long conversation with her.

[@Errcyco]

Karen was a beautiful soul.. she's like case and point for "nice guy finishes last" =(

[@frostedhead]

I remember seeing Gene at the Rainbow with my girlfriend "who's that guy? he's gross" and another time I seen Gene at the artist entrance valet waiting for my car right behind Gene and Shannon the chick that I was with said "how does a ugly guy get a chick like that" I replied "that's Gene Simmons"

[@cruiser6260]

Animal magnetism, hairy chest and long 👅. Must have been 40 yrs ago if Shannon was still a chick.

[@scottbubb2946]

The more I listen to these videos, the more I think, "Man, I'll bet Ace would have been cool to hang around with."

[@lisag18]

A self absorbed, self centered drunk? No

[@EmilioGarcia-fr5po]

Thanks for being honest with us

[@crisrose521]

What club or hangout was at 5th & 11th street ? I’ve been at that exact location and on the NW corner there’s an eerie looking tree that I took a picture of . That’s just a few streets up from Washington Square Park .

[@atlasking6110]

I'm looking at it on streetview and I don't see what's so eerie about it. It's just a tree.

[@crisrose521]

@@atlasking6110I just looked at it again on google map . . It’s a day picture so it doesn’t have the same impact , but it’s twisted and eerie looking , especially at night . It’s definitely not just “ another average looking tree “ Maybe you were looking at the tree in your backyard ?

[@paulelliott682]

Hence the birth of garage wall collision devices

[@frostedhead]

Paul is over compensating about women? I wonder why? Because he's Paul Thanley.

[@louisborselio8608]

Why do people like you accuthe him of talking that way when ith's so obiviouth he doethnt.

[@Kunta_Kinte478]

@@louisborselio8608 Because he's Paul Thanley of Kith.

[@Betrayerslayer]

Im My Tytshin.U aint thawlkin' 'bõut Me, izth you..?!..??

[@AkDragosani]

Listening to Paul and his Drama Makes me cringe. Can’t stand that guy.

[@AkronAsylum]

Who does?

[@AkronAsylum]

@Coogan Just like he doesn't give a damn about fanboys like you..

[@Dan-cl3md]

​@Coogan You can't even spell Peter Criss's name . That's how much you know about KISS !

[@Dan-cl3md]

​@Coogan Your sounding like a big baby

[@Dan-cl3md]

​@Coogan Read the comments , not many people have any respect for Stanley anymore . He is constantly talking shit about everyone except for himself . Do you want a list of all the lies that Paul Stanley has told ? I can provide one for you .

[@MichaelCaliri]

fame has its downside

[@Betrayerslayer]

Sure. Down south ta vaginTown

[@robertmirabilio5356]

I Always remember looking at Circus and Cream Magazines. The Top 10 bands So they say that we’re voting by the fans. The 10 Ten drummers. The best 10 guitar players. The top 10 vocalist and it was always Led Zeppelin number one and KISS number two and then the next month it would be Kiss number one and Led Zeppelin number two, Aerosmith three and so on. But it was always Kiss and Led Zeppelin that held the number one and two spots. For both band, best guitarist, best drummer, which I find so hard to believe because give me a fucking break Peter, Doesn’t hold a light next to the great late John “BONZO” Bonham

[@DarkCrueDethAngel]

-23:22 oofzs..😬 lowl lmhdo🤣

[@97warlock]

Wonder how Strange Ways wouldve been accepted had it been Gene singing it

[@JokersWild70]

I can't actually imagine Gene singing it. It's probably one of the heaviest songs they ever did, so it really wouldn't be a hit no matter who sang it

[@kevinchandler179]

Peter sung it amazing, what do you mean no matter who sang it? Lol 🤦‍♂️

[@reconnsupernaturalsyndicat1493]

Whine all they want but as karma goes they asked and wanted fame just wasn't specific that they wanted it to go smoothly. However, did get the end result. Great stories

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

Karma's a myth

[@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec]

You believe in karma? lol!

[@Errcyco]

@@DrJ-hx7wv for real.. I know some truly rotten people who've never had to own up and doubt they will.

[@andrewjohnson388]

That is real shame, Paul felt that ..cut the Crap.. then he seems nice guy, well yep be yourself!!

[@Dan-cl3md]

Has anyone else ever read a MUSIC bio where the author talks about his pathetic , failed love life more than the music but not as much as how much of a loser everyone else is compared to how perfect he is ???????? I suppose that's what happens when you have fame and fortune but no stable relationships or friends

[@dirkjewitt5037]

Of course Paul needed a steady diet of willing women, how else would he stay in the closet?

[@WHISPER-band]

What about subtitles?

[@frostedhead]

Does Chiam ever talk about when Ace and Peter would put their noodles on his shoulders?

[@Betrayerslayer]

He does. Then Ace tossed it in the Chefs salad, cuz hez da Chef

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

Oy vey!

[@butters395]

gene with dollar sign boots !...... shocking 😒.....toobad he couldn't get karen carpenter to eat some of the food his mother bought over.... no disrespect to karen...... just saying 😢

[@edwardnobles6418]

If you were on a desert island. First three albums!

[@FreeMTrider]

First six

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

Alive I, Alive II and Alive III

[@Smith-wk6pb]

Dumb fing question what good is to have albums on a desert island when you don't have a turntable or electricity to play the albums. How about clean drinking water and food the means to make shelter

[@MrMarcodarko]

Paul seems really insecure. Paul isnt even that good a guitarist

[@kevinchandler179]

How dare you say that, Paul and Gene, and God and Jesus are the only 4 perfect people in history 🙄!!!!!!!!!!! The only reason for decades they have bashed Peter and Ace is honestly jealousy, plain and simple!!! If they are as great and high and mighty as they actually think, then they wouldn't find it necessary to bash two living legends!!!!

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

He’s a good rythm guitar player and a great vocalist. If you don’t like Paul you don’t like KISS.

[@Errcyco]

NO band has shit on KISS. seriously.. name one that has that reach. some are richer.. none have that amount of fans and love. amazing shit.

[@Smith-wk6pb]

Gene and Paul sabotaged Peter's solo album because there's some good songs on it..