Part 3, pond rescued from being destroyed!

Part 3, pond rescued from being destroyed! If you have a livestock pond that you are tired of cattle destroying, try this approach. By keeping your livestock out of your pond, the daily gains increase dramatically along with reduced illness in livestock. Check out my books on our website: greenpasturesfarm.net for more profitable grazing tips.

[@Sassafras30]

Has anyone noticed how confident Ben and Issac have become since we first met them? Greg, you have done an amazing job bringing these young men forward.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Sally your right, their confidence has soared. It certainly helps that I have two of the most passionate young men on the planet to work with everyday. Those two young men are like sponges, they soak up everything. The cool part is that I have learned a lot from them as well. They constantly amaze me with great ideas!

[@SasquatchBioacoustic]

Great project! We're gonna miss those boys when their internships are over.

[@bknoblauch1076]

These “men” - they’re well beyond being boys.

[@drewk5929]

If them cows touch that wire standing in water they will feel all 10000 volts! Lol woooo

[@pederjohansen2029]

I think the farming community needs more people like you and the boys. I thoroughly enjoy watching you and other farmers like you. Makes me want a few acres to work. 🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@tenniswood8375]

Very nice design. I have two suggestions, tho. 1.) If you build another, I'd suggest building it out of gray electrical conduit and fittings, as they are UV stabilized and will last far longer in the sun. 2.) I would use silicone to completely seal every hole in the PVC, as water will drift down the wire into the pipe, and moisture will condense inside the pipe, steadily decreasing the floatation. Nice work, tho. I enjoy your videos.

[@JohnVanRuiten]

So these boys are using the brains that God gave em. I love it!!

[@Telluridepilot]

I’m a new viewer to your channel and love the content. I’m an Engineer and just looking at what Ben and Issac built it looks impressive. Id only add some egg shaped floats that can slide horizontally along the pvc. Just a thought. I see young guys come out of college and can’t think practically at a end result. I came through before computers and that skill is lost in the electronic age. You have 2 awesome fellas working with you. You are such a great streward of the land and your knowledge being passed along to them is an education no amount of money can teach. Thank you for sharing your farm with us.

[@nicholasforti9948]

Absolutely love it. Just be careful UV light breaks down PVC and makes it brittle. Brilliant idea though!!!

[@lindagates9150]

Thank you for improving my critical thinking 🤔 I have used that enhanced ability to see the some of fallacies that are so common. With a bit of effort I hope to be able to get good at it. If I could give more than one official thumbs up I would , so these few will have to suffice 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@tammoilliet8683]

👍🇨🇦👍🇨🇦👍🇨🇦👍🇨🇦 you said it brother

[@tammoilliet8683]

Err, sister

[@lindagates9150]

@@tammoilliet8683 thank you for your gift of the 👍 I appreciate your recognition. I was inspired to write the thank you because when I wrote a comment on Richard Perkins video in response to the comment posted by another viewer I thought what have I learned from Mr. Judy building habitat for animals to ultimately feed the predators . The comment that I replied to was about why couldn’t mr Perkins cut the trees on the nature reserve on part of his new farm yet he could hunt. I wrote about the habitat for the wildlife and the need to have predators. So many people see hunting as a negative and clear cutting as a positive. Vegans pride themselves on nothing died to provide their food or clothing yet the real world is not that cut and dry it might be microscopic but things do die . I have learned so much since I began watching these people who are passionate about farming and their animals. Goodnight

[@flyingpigpreserve8562]

Very Nice. Ben and Issac are Great Interns. They will be missed when their Internship is over. They are very smart at what they do. They also work together well. God Bless and Peace Be With You All

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Great job. When using PVC above ground for water or electric use use the grey outdoor electric PVC. It is more UV stable and should last at least 40 years trouble free. When used to float the darker colour will melt the ice better and reduce the risk of ice breaking it.

[@blue_boy8621]

Don't forget to paint the PVC pipe... It does degrade in the UV from the sun.. it becomes brittle

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Yes, thanks for the tip!!

[@andreafalconiero9089]

I'm not sure if you can buy it in the right sizes, but the grey PVC intended for electrical work already has built-in UV retardant and is also sometimes a bit cheaper. That might be a better option than using the white water pipe and paint in outdoor applications like this.

[@movinon1242]

@@andreafalconiero9089 that is a good point!

[@clearskyamerica3107]

Great idea that looks very practical. Even if you weren't running cattle you could use this set up for fishing in lieu of building a dock. Our dock is falling down and I just might replace it with this to be our fishing spot.

[@nandisaand5287]

Wow. Neat "skirt". It might be smart to run that wire going through the trees through some PVC tubing so if someone stumbles into it they wont get 10KV in the teeth. "Good job" to the crew!

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Nandi, that is a great idea, will need to do that!

[@cbmaine3709]

Ben and Issac did a great job not only of making the skirt and wiring, but being able to explain what they did.

[@georgeheller2281]

The interaction between you and the boys makes for an entertaining video. Asking them questions and kind of letting them tell you and us how things are done, shows how much they have learned. Have a great day!

[@yoopermann7942]

GREG, in my opinion you are the WORLDs BEST MENTOR!! you not only describe what your doing, your also showing the how and the why!! THANK YOU very much SIR!!!!

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Thank-you!

[@noah786]

Genius solution! Where that hot lead comes in to the switch, you could drive a tall, 10 ft or so, cedar post and attach the wire to the top of it, with an insulated of course, to completely get that hot wire out of the way.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Noah, I love your solution, we are definitely going to do that. Great idea!!!

[@danstirm4333]

I would suggest painting the pvc pipe, other wise it will become brittle in about 3yrs. Don't get the caps painted so it will stay hot.

[@homosassa2tellico388]

It might be worth putting up a game camera to see how the deer like the new spot 😎

[@horseshoegaming9735]

Love it. Awesome idea! Just a thought: possibly use electrical pvc or some type of pvc that will hold up to the UV rays on future skirts. I use the electrical pvc for hoops in my garden and they have lasted. My experience with regular pvc is that is will become brittle in the sun.

[@lorineidtinytoadplot744]

That's great if you don't live in -20c to -40c with 4' ( or more ) of snow, like we get here in Northern Canada. The pipe would freeze then get covered with snow. Basically we have to block off the pond in winter or move them to winter area. I still want a pond, just for the fun of it lol, I love having as natural an area as possible, # always leave the land better than you found it ;)

[@nobleenchantpbkc8082]

Excellent!

[@CMVBrielman]

What I wouldn’t give to go back in time and give my father one of those voltage testers. Oh, who am I kidding, he still would have had me manually test the fences!

[@seek2find]

I gave one to my father but still didn't trust it so I still couldn't get away from having to test it!

[@PilgrimLad]

Good job. I'd paint the PVC to protect it from UV.

[@seek2find]

I love the "floating" innovation using vertical posts beside the pvc structure to allow the water level to go up and down without losing or moving the electric fence. Drilling a hole through the cap for the wire was so simple and effective. The extra snap-line wired across to reduce the access to deeper water was a cheap addition (to keep the livestock further back from the water) was a brilliant addition.

[@bryanblackburn7074]

Great job Ben & Issac! Definitely a well thought out project that I believe will work superbly. The landowner will love this, especially the shut off for your hot wire when he is down there catching his fish without the risk of getting shocked. Greg you taught these young men well.

[@tammoilliet8683]

I think this is evident that farmers can be the most innovative folks there are

[@emilmoldovan1789]

Great!

[@TIznus]

I think it needs to be painted. My understanding is pvc degrades really quick in the full sun.

[@elizebethparker5412]

Looking forward to the video detailing H braces on a sheep fence!

[@eablau]

the holes for the hot wire on top of the schedule 40 pipe caps let moist air into the sched 40 pipe that will condense. Over time the entire pipe system will fill with water and buoyancy will decrease and pipe system then filled with condensate water will sink. One solution to avoid that is filling the entire system with construction foam that heavily expands. Personally would have chosen schedule 80 pipe (electrical pipe) since it is more UV resistant than sched 40 so the whole contraption lives a lot longer. Overall a good idea that could be made even better with sche 80 electrical conduit pipe and foamed out with construction foam. Even leaks on joints not properly solvent welded would not make it sink and retain buoyancy. Just my five cents.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

I like the idea of putting foam in the pvc. Thanks a bunch for your ideas, this is great stuff.

[@toddcaskey9984]

Great job teaching by letting them work with just a little guidance.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Love to see them grow and learn, their confidence has soared this year!

[@toddcaskey9984]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher when do they unfortunately leave? Tell them they should get a u tube channel to keep us updated on their adventures. Great job with all you do.

[@tomrobertson3236]

military requirements for wire over a road , 14ft secondary , 18 ft primary the wire was installed high enough

[@markenloe1265]

What a multitude of information....thank you Greg Judy'. 😎

[@albertod4161]

Thats pretty cool I give this video 2 thumbs up 👍 👌 😎

[@joemc111]

Good Greg,Ben and Issac, maybe put a reducer on top to tie the wire to with a BLACK 1/4 zip tie,look on the package, only black zip ties are UV safe. Keep your PVC airtight.

[@richardwilliams4767]

Very Very good design and assembly

[@Sassafras30]

So neat and tidy. This pond is a real keeper.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

It is neat and our landowners are quite pleased with it.

[@jonm604]

You need to use UV resistant PVC. The white will brake down after a year and brake at the slitest hit.

[@ivankinsman4829]

Good job. Let's see what it's like after one year and the test of time.

[@rochrich1223]

Glad the line between the two trees are connected with a weaker wire than the electric fence wire. It gives a place to break with minimal damage should a thunderstorm blow the trees apart.

[@alexriddles492]

I understand the cattle are "trained" to the fence and know not to touch it. But, is there a difference in how it would effect them if they get shocked while standing in the water?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

We have been running hot polywire around various ponds for 30 years, you will see or hear a cow get shocked that was careless. She did not touch the wire again after that.

[@movinon1242]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher I think Alex is asking: what are the consequences for the cows for touching hot wire while standing in water at the edge of a pond, vs touching hot wire while standing on normal ground? We are always warned about not getting electrocuted while standing in water, as it can often often be fatal. Do the cows face greater risk when they get shocked with all four hooves in the pond?

[@TinaThevarge]

Awesome idea. Would work on anything trained to hot wire I bet. I have a small stream running through my property. Going to be working on perimeter fence to keep coyotes out. But will need to manage my banks near the stream.

[@dgreen6987]

Wonder if there is a way to rig up a heat element or small trolling motor prop to keep open water when everything else is froze up..???

[@jbremer1513]

Greg been on here since pretty much the beginning! I’m sorry but I’m de-Googling and will miss you. I’ll catch you on Rumble if you feel like moving over or cross posting!

[@randolphbutler1832]

Well engineered. Good effort young men. Thanks for sharing. 😷👍

[@jpp9876]

With the added conductivity of water cant this become deadly to the cows? Also wouldn't you want to add some warning signs in case a city slicker ends up in that area?

[@HectorPerez-tb8hn]

Great Job, get a small solar panel !!

[@fanciterv]

Try sliding pool noodle or pipe insulation inside the bottom pipes so that if water does infiltrate the skirt it will still float.

[@nathanhoneycutt3067]

I was thinking the same thing. Water will get in where the hot wire penetrates the pvc. I’d drill holes in the pvc and then wrap it in pool noodles.

[@PeteGA]

Looks like someone stayed up late to upload lol

[@T_157-40]

With 2”, spray spray foam in horizontal sections in contact with water to give it better floatation. My question is if a cow’s leg is standing in water and it hits hot wire w/10,100 volts, doesn’t that create a continuous circuit in body of cow till the wire contact is broken??? I am not an electrician so it’s a question.

[@bigwhane8603]

Tie wire on a pipe and slide the pipe over a rod and it floats...

[@danielvrana9444]

You might put some foam around the pipes in the water just Incase of a leak or break in the pipes. Now what happens when the cow calf come and get in the water and get hit with 10,000 volts?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

If they touch the wire, they are trained!

[@courtneyheron1561]

Maybe a length of insulation tubing on vertical hot wire

[@Digger927]

Very creative. I might consider burying an insulated wire from the source fence to the pond fence though vs dealing with the problems of that high string. The movement from those trees is likely going to be a problem not to mention the issues with hitting the verticals that need marked. Insulated wire is cheap and doesn't need buried very deep, those two men could have buried it adequately with a pair of shovels easier and in less time than they spent hanging that high wire. The only issue I can see is that a buried wire is always subject to ground out but nothing is perfect. High quality insulated wire is pretty good.

[@joemc111]

Yes and you would only have to bury maybe 20 or 30 feet to make a large opening, the rest could be a few Post leading away toward the pond and your existing fence line. Also the buried part should be in pipe so to make it easy to replace the wire.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Every ground buried insulated wire that i have buried shorts out in a couple years. I always put it inside a polyethylene pipe now, bit pricey but effective. We have dozens of feeder wires hanging in trees for 20 years plus, no issues yet. Cheap, saves a very tall post!

[@Digger927]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher It should run it in plastic conduit as a safeguard, bring it up out of the ground and turn it down with fittings to keep water out of it. Plus I don't have trees like that to use as poles on 99% of my pastures. Also a nice way to electrify around gates.

[@donmartin7728]

Curious how this will be when the pond freezes. Like others have suggested putting pool noodles on the pvc. Would that also help protect the pvc from breaking when the water freezes? Or possibly a solar water pump to keep the water moving inside the skirt area to keep it from freezing.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Yes this will be a trial to see how it works in the winter with freezing temps!

[@Sassafras30]

Issac’s statement: “we’re going to learn a bunch” referring to this new skirt and how the cows will or won’t destroy it. I think the cows will be very intimidated. 😊😂❤️

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Yes the boys are learning new techniques constantly.

[@johndantice2577]

For the skirt wire, instead of caps and drilling a hole for the wire, why not use a "T" to cap and run the wire through the "T" with no drilling.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

By using a T to cap, the water goes inside the pipe and will not float.

[@marvinbaier3627]

I was just thinking about this video all day yesterday about the pvc piping floating on the water. How do you think the freezing and thawing will affect the piping. Do you think it might crack the pipe with the expanding ice? I work and live around a river and the ice chunks can do some damage but that’s moving ice though compared just floating on top of a pond but the ice still expands. Just wondering what your thoughts about it? Thanks for all your wonderful videos. You make me have critical thinking all the time on your videos and what I’m trying to do at my little farm too.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

We are going to find out how the freezing effects the pvc this winter.

[@padreoh]

Maybe Zip Tie a few empty milk containers to skirt?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Might try that if the pvc has trouble floating. Thanks for the idea!!

[@curtweatherbee2523]

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[@Lukecomblover]

I don't know how you get your fence so hot! I have the biggest charger cyclops makes with 41 stored joules and 32 output joules and I've been having trouble keeping my fence hot! At best I can get 6 kv but usually struggle to get over 4 kv!

[@movinon1242]

Forgive me if its too obvious, but are you making sure that not one spot of the fence is touching any brush, bushes or other plant growth? The charge will go right down into the ground if you do. And the same goes for any wooden posts in the fence. Again, I apologize if these were so obvious they were insulting to point out.

[@Lukecomblover]

@@movinon1242 if you've seen the video by Justin Rhodes with Greg you'd know vegetation isn't the problem.... I'm thinking my grounds should be looked at or maybe a direct short like a piece of old fence wire grounding it out or something.... Just really fustrating!

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

You may have steel touching it somewhere.

[@tammoilliet8683]

I have the same issue with the Stafix 36joule. I have a ton of veg load on the lower wires in the summer and when it rains mind can go as low as 1.5kv which does pretty much nothing. In the fall and winter when the veg dies bag, and when it freezes, my volts go up to 10+lb, I've actually seen as high as 11kv and I have 3+ miles of sheep fence (low to the ground). You might need to look at using some herbicide just along the fence line, or assign a little group of critters to only graze along the fence all year.

[@feelnrite]

What kind of fence charger do you have on that?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Cyclops 20 joule. It is powering 3 farms.

[@bigwhane8603]

What boots do y’all wear? Looking to buy a new pair

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

Mostly Muck boots

[@bigwhane8603]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher what about your leather boots. I have muck boots too. Love em

[@DontStopBrent]

Ok. I missed something. What’s the purpose of the skirt?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

To keep the cattle from destroying the pond. 375 cattle can ruin a pond in 1 day .

[@DontStopBrent]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher So has it worked like you expected it to?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

I just put it in, will find out in the next couple weeks.

[@DontStopBrent]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Greg, it’s a novel idea. I’ve never seen anything like it. Anxious to hear your results!

[@leemartin9519]

Problem. If anything touches that wire while standing in water will die instantly.

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

No, it has never happened. They get a good shock, but learn quickly not to touch the wire.

[@timtation5837]

ABS is far less toxic than PVC... Regardless, I would have added some sealed legs that almost touched bottom (just like the 12" legs holding the hot wire but pointing down and sans wire), as well as some pool floats (don't use pool noodles because noodles break down so incredibly fast and you would need to replace them at least once a year (and they would shed tons of micro plastic into the pond and it would be nasty). Anyway, some legs to prevent it from submerging should the pipe crack and stop floating. Some pool floats to keep it floating if the water level goes up and to add some redundancy (cus you don't want 10K volts cooking yer fish and anything that steps into the water, including a cow or person). I like that it can rise and fall with the water level, but electricity and water can be very dangerous. You would be a whole lot safer just pumping water the hill to a watering trough and just fencing the entire pond off. Oh... And those pool floats could be wired to the pipe with the same soft wire you use on the fencing, you don't need to try to run the pipe through them (which could only be done while building it, provided you got floats that had the right sized hole). Anyway... It's a little dangerous but creative and a good idea if you absolutely feel the risk is warranted. (but me, I'd pump the water, heck a solar pump could lift it the little amount needed for that small rise, no skirt needed). You still rock Greg and I love watching your videos... Thank you!!!

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

We have 42 ponds, that is a lot of Solar pumps!!!

[@timtation5837]

@@gregjudyregenerativerancher Wow!!! 42 ponds is an awful lot of skirts and floating electric fencing... Are all the ponds downhill? I still think the solar pumps might be cheaper than digging those rock skirts and floating electric wire on each one. I think you might be able to buy several solar pumps for the cost of 1 rock skirt and keep the cows out of the ponds entirely... Just a thought tho... You seem to have a very good head on yer shoulders and you make common sense seem a lot more common and that is a very good thing... Just wish we more like you in the world. You rock Greg!!!

[@mathewritchie]

Don`t you mean cow handling?

[@feelnrite]

Also what kind of poly wire is that?

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

That is Powerflex Fence company polybraid. Mixed metal, 6 steel strands, 3 copper. Best there is.

[@jeanneshannon5607]

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[@pappyjohn9911]

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[@Jane_under_a_tree_with_a_book]

Why is the wire so hot? Could you explain why you decide on 10,000 rather than, say, 8,000 or 5,000?

[@blue_boy8621]

The cows and sheep learn quicker when they get zapped with a 10kV rather then 5kV. When they learn they respect it, and that is an important part of Greg's managment. He can control there movement better.. Hope this helps

[@gregjudyregenerativerancher]

That is what the charger was putting out. In summer with green vegetation on the fence, it will be lower voltage.

[@davemi00]

The 👎🏻’s must be from skinny dippers ⚡️🏊‍♂️⚡️