Part 4 - Did The New Engine Fix The P2293 High Pressure Pump Related Code?

[@psav1520]

I appreciate the extra effort that you take for us when the real project at hand is to have the family grcery getter made dependable. Thank you Mike.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey P Saw, thanks for watching the series! Glad I was able to take you along for the roller coaster of a ride :) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@jeromesimms4925]

Excellent Close-up camera views of the worn areas that seldom is captured by some of best in the industries.

[@GoTechTraining]

Thanks for watching Jerome! Glad you appreciated the work we put into it ;) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@High_Tech_Mountain]

Great video! Thanks for sharing with us! Great thing about pico is you can run a resistance math channel & be able to see the dynamic resistance... not that it’ll change your diagnosis whatsoever. But figured I’d suggest it lol. Again thanks for bringing us along! Always a pleasure!

[@GoTechTraining]

Thanks Angel! I'll have to check that out, thanks! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@simonthegreat543]

Well done mike. Got there in the end! Great example of when to stop and move on as the best solution.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Simon, took a while, but we made it :) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@bluejayoutpost9170]

Mike another great video. Enjoy the ride you do an excellent job!

[@GoTechTraining]

Thank you very much!!! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@2nickles647]

Thank you mike for teaching us how to troubleshoot and when to stop and the final repairs.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey L J, thanks for watching! Knowing when to throw in the towel is a valuable skill to have! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@patelvivek4888]

Hi Mike, really it was good series and as u manage to keep it short so it was interesting to watch. Also u covered all aspects which where important. Great video 👍👍

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Patel, glad to hear you've enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@SimplyDiagnostics]

Thanks for sharing this with us Mike - you're awesome 👍

[@GoTechTraining]

Thanks Steve!!! You're awesome!! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@nicknicu1787]

Great update Mike,I’m glad it worked out so well for you! 👍👍👍

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Nick, we made it in the end. Just took way to long to get there ;) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@emmettthompson3332]

Well, at least you have a lot of practice! Now a VW expert now.

[@GoTechTraining]

Ugh Emmett, not sure I want to be that LOL! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Thanks Mike Time to quit while your ahead? To sell or not to sell, that is the question? If it's running good, keep it till it starts giving trouble, then get rid of it! To me, the electrical comparison was comparitively in range. It obviously was the mechanical part that that caused all the problems. Reminds me of a 71 AMC Hornet with a "double acting" fuel pump problem many years ago. Wound up to be a worn cam lobe for the pump. Good job Mike, hope this engine lasts a long time!

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Mike, thanks for watching! I know, its a tough question for sure. We'll see what happens. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@martijn8337]

The answer to a lot of questions is that the high pressure pump control is timed. The beginning or the end of the pump stroke is being used. That’s how the pressure is controlled. In live data you can often see if cam timing is correct or how much it is out of spec. Because it is important to know for the engine ecu to control the high pressure pump. Somewhere in measurement group 90-94. I hope this usefull.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Martjin 83, that's interesting, i'll have to take a look into that. Thanks! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@jgeorges3061]

MIKE, you know u are awesome thanks for the series really good information and learning curve about this VW . cheeeers

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey J Georges, thanks! Glad you enjoyed the series! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Nice score with that engine, Mike! Thing looked mint! Glad you got that nightmare behind you now. Problem is, if you sell it, what kind of problems will you run into with a replacement vehicle? That's the conundrum I have whenever I think I need another vehicle, lol. Especially anything built this century ... We've had our 34 year old Grand Marquis for 17 years this past January, & the Silverado for 13 now. The 26 year old Volvo 940 is our newest addition to the fleet at 5 years of ownership. I'm keeping all of them, because, you know the saying, "Better the devil you know than the one you don't." ... And because I can't afford anything built before the 1973 model year. If I had my way, my whole fleet would be run with carburetors and HEI. 😂 Anyway, great follow up, Mike - thanks for sharing. 👍🍻

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Smitty! I will always have "problems with the replacement vehicle". I refuse to buy anything "nice" I always buy something broken haha! You won't find any carbs in my garage, haha! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@SmittySmithsonite]

@@GoTechTraining - Ahh you young fellas don't know what you're missing! 😜 I've been the same way as far as cars go, except for one time when I bought a brand new Silverado in 2007. Biggest mistake of my life! I was better off driving stuff from the 70's through the early 90's as far as reliability goes. That Silverado has been a lemon since the day it left the showroom! I bought new to try and save myself the aggravation of frequent repairs. HA! This thing was the worst vehicle I've ever owned in my life in that regard - instead of wrenching on it, I was sitting in a dealership for hours for warranty work! I'd rather be doing it myself! Will be the LAST new vehicle I ever buy. My next "new" vehicle will be pre-1973 model year. 😁

[@GoTechTraining]

Man that's crazy about your Silverado...07 wasn't that bad of a vehicle. You must have just gotten unlucky! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@SmittySmithsonite]

@@GoTechTraining - Well the AFM problem is widespread with those, but that's just one problem of many. I had brake pulsation on the test drive with just over 40 miles on the clock, trim was falling off the driver's door at that same time, lower ball joints made it only 38k miles, uppers 50k, along with the hub bearings, & 1 strut, & started burning oil. Front axle started leaking around that time, too. Kept throwing "Service 4x4 System" right out of the gate - dealer kicked that can right out of warranty, and I got stuck replacing the 4x4 switch at 55k, then my rear differential's spider gears shed most of their teeth off at 97k. And don't get me started on the paint and body metal strength. I tapped a little sapling in the yard with the right rear of the bumper when it was just 2 years old, and that cost me $2,200 in repairs. It not only bent the bumper, but tweaked the box and creased it right over the rear wheel. Had to go on the frame machine for an hour to straighten that out. When I had it all apart to replace the bumper components, the amount of rust I saw was frightening. 2 years old! Chevy's slogan used to be, "Like a Rock" - today it should be, "Like a beer can". 😟

[@jeremyanthony9300]

Damn Mike, you had to take a lot of stuff out to get that motor out. Excellent job though.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Jeremy, ahh it wasn't so bad. It looks like more than it is. Lots of plastic hahha! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@throttlebottle5906]

is the pump maybe damaged inside( bypassing/piston/diaphragm, causing a low tension follower chatter and over-pressure break down of the coil clearances, making current rise? sometimes my mind goes off the wall, but sometimes that off the wall is very close to the real issue

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Throttle Bottle, not sure, could be I suppose. I hope not though, I don't wan't to put anything else into this car ;) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@Arthur-ee1vd]

just everything is intelligible and understandable .. thanks ..👍👍👍

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Arthur, thanks! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@overload3996]

How would the pressure regulator pwm ,bad pump vs new because of engine fuel demand. ?? I would have liked to seen the Regulator comparison along with pump comparison.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Over Load, the "pump" which is what I was calling it, acts as the regulator. It's a solenoid that allows the fuel into the rail. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@overload3996]

@@GoTechTraining can you activate this regulator with the scan tool to bleed off fuel . Not sure if VW gives this option. Never worked on this vehicle before, where some other vehicles have regulator after pump at end of rail.

[@Justinwhat1]

Ok I have some input: On my engine (BPY), my cam follower was worn COMPLETELY THROUGH; as in a giant hole where the surface used to be. This meant that the cam lobe was making direct contact with the end of the fuel pump plunger (imagine just removing the cam follower and putting everything back together). The camshaft lobe wore down the fuel pump plunger quite a bit. After all this, I still did not have a check engine light for low fuel pressure. This tells me the fuel pump was able to meet demand, even with quite a bit of the mating material removed. I’m not a mechanic, but I’m wondering if there was a problem with your solenoid? Or maybe the fuel pressure sensor? Any thoughts appreciated.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Justin, that's interesting. You don't have access to a scanner that can see data, do you? I wonder if the desired/actual high pressure fuel numbers are the same? Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@Justinwhat1]

@@GoTechTraining I’ve already replaced the camshafts, fuel pump and follower. Didn’t scan it at the time, but I do remember I didn’t have a MIL. Would be interesting data. My bearings weren’t as bad as yours, luckily. Even measured clearances with Plastigage. Thanks.

[@loganmcclintock7228]

Hi I have a 2007 Audi A4 2.0t and I have a p2293 and I have a real rough idle for about 3-4 min and then it will stall out. The idle is going up and down and the fuel rail pressure is sticking around 1800 psi. Replaced the fuel pump twice, gotten new sensors, replaced the purge valve and replaced the camshaft and follower. Still having the problem. Any ideas would considering we’ve replaced almost everything. Thank you.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Logan, what are the idle fuel trims? Is it running rich or lean when the issues present/ Has the PCV system been inspected? Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@josephwash109]

I've never seen a tamper resistant cover on a computer connector before. Maybe they put it there thinking that the aftermarket would come up with some plug-in power chip for the module and they wanted to prevent that from happening. In general, Volkswagen seems to do odd things for tamper prevention (triple square and 12-point bolts come to mind).

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Joseph, I know, I haven't ever seen one either...crazy VW's! That could be the reasoning, but then again it's VW they don't really need a reason...saying it's a VW is reason enough, haha! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@throttlebottle5906]

dieselgate =p

[@andyeckel7195]

throttle bottle ding ding ding. This was exact same thought. The VW “diesel gate” scandal that cost VW billions and darn near destroyed the company. It was not a deterrent against tuners, it is deterrent against EPA and other investigators / regulators from trying to reverse engineer PCM logic. For others reading this comment who may not be familiar with the massive scandal, try a Google search for “VW diesel-gate”. I used to work for a Big Oil company and we used this scandal as a learning case study to teach our employees about how corporate reputation can get ruined by this type of cheating. If I recall correctly, people including top executives went to prison for this.

[@salvadorgutierrezr5914]

Enjoy the ride and thanks for the video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏✌

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Salvador, thanks!!!! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@acarl-lo5tg]

I would suggest that you keep the car and put a lot more miles on it. Sometimes you gain a lot in automotive education by just enduring and experiencing first hand all the problems associated with a specific make, model, technology, etc. With your skill set you are more than capable of keeping ahead of anything the "fine German engineers" put into this vehicle.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Acarl1018, ohhh I don't know about that. Those "fine engineers" may have another curve ball in store for me. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@johnaclark1]

The problem is these are such nice driving little cars that it's kind of hard to part with them, especially now that you have a good low mileage engine in there. I bet you keep it.

[@GoTechTraining]

Yeh, an it gets really good fuel economy too...decisions decisions. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@antwonhughes7121]

Love the video my brother you are the man

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Antwon, thanks man! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@fac4431]

Buenas tardes!👍

[@AncelGlobal]

Make it clear!👍👍👍

[@GoTechTraining]

Thanks for watching! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@gunnarroseberg9879]

Dropped these motor/trans assemblies before, but never even thought of your front end pulling method. Makes sense of course in your garage, just wondering if you have a preference?

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Gunnar, I've never dropped one of these 2.0 BPY's specifically from the bottom, i've done others though. This motor is crammed tight. I prefer to remove the front clip on here, only takes about 25 minutes. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@danman9017]

thanks for sharing

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Dan man, thanks for watching! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@sebczajna700]

Next good video, but why You decide for engine replacement? In the old engine, the worn camshaft did a lot of damage? Best regards from Poland👍

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Seb, the engine was replaced under warranty through he junkyard. The condition of the camshaft was worrisome. What did the crankshaft look like? Chances are that engine wouldn't be running for much longer considering how much metal I found in there. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@softturbo]

It might be a good idea to make cam follower inspection a "maintenance item" for this car every other oil change or so, considering how this engine would not throw any code until it's too late and how cheap those cam followers are.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Softturbo, that's a good idea. I wonder if they do that in the Euro shops that deal with these all the time? It would be super beneficial to catch it early, that's for sure! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@jeremyanthony9300]

who helped you with it?

[@GoTechTraining]

Just like that song about drinking alone, I prefer to work alone ;) Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@sandman_7326]

VW/AUDI CAMSHAFT 2.0T LOCKING TOOL ?

[@garygarafano8341]

Maybe the break away bolts are because they don't want techs messing around with the PCM?

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Gary, could be! I'm not a fan, if that's the case. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@bernardaflores1720]

If you keeping the car for some time, replace the PCV before you get some problems.

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Bernarda, thanks for the tip! I know they are really really common for failure. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@seasonease4512]

What fixed.... Engine replacement?? Another pump didn't fix it. Camshaft replacement with new cylinder head wouldn't have fixed it. So conclusion as U said U don't know what was wrong with it. Sorry to say this but I don't believe U fixed it swapping n engine is not a fix. But great effort for the video

[@richardcranium5839]

seems like its set up to one spec and no learning or adapting. once it goes out of spec the self destruct warning light illuminates. throw away world smh

[@GoTechTraining]

Haha the self-destruct light! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@PhillyDee215]

😎😎😎

[@GoTechTraining]

Hey Philly, thanks for watching! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@int53185]

Lesson learned. Sell immediately!

[@GoTechTraining]

Hahah for sure James! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@mechtechtools77]

Will you ever buy a VW again?

[@GoTechTraining]

Hmm, probably. I never learn my lesson the first time. haha! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@mechtechtools77]

@@GoTechTraining I think the last good vehicles VW made were their early 90's CIS K-Jetronic vehicles . Just my opinion😁

[@GoTechTraining]

I've never owned one of those, i'll take your word for it! Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

LOL... Now... Try that again with a Quattro! Motor and Trans on the sub, as a whole unit. Then detach.

[@GoTechTraining]

Sounds fun! Haha! I have the engine pulled on a 2.5L AWD 2011 Escape right now...same thing, engine/trans/PTU all out as an assembly from the bottom. Not a bad job though...hood pop to engine on the floor in 2 hours. Mike Becker, Senior Instructor

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

@@GoTechTraining It's really not all that bad, as long as you've got the tools to do the job. Laying on the ground with jack stands, jacks, blocks of wood, engine supports, etc is a real challenge and a total pita. Owning a garage with a lift is one of my bigger goals.... Once that is obtained, I should get myself closer to financial independence....