(part 4) WOMEN to blame, but 50% of MEN don't even want to commit? a.k.a Chris WILLIAMSON is a JOKE

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Ай бұрын

Here's the opinion piece in NYT about maternal instinct (mentioned in the video): www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/op...
Hello beautiful people!!
This is the FINAL part of this commentary series. Thank you for watching and let me know in the comments if you find some interesting stuff (or BS that could be deconstructed) to comment on!! THANK YOU AND ENJOY!

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@ebingo10 Ай бұрын

80% of women are looking for a man with a stable job and can't find any and men are gradually checking out of schools from the 1950s. Madam, please don't you see the relationship? It feels like you are just disagreeing with him for the sake of disagreeing.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

men are checking out of schools and the solution is for women to focus more on having kids? that is literally what CW says in this interview - I am really genuinely disagreeing with him on this absurd claim that women focusing on having kids somehow would solve modern dating problems

@sammemrys8195 Ай бұрын

I am genuinely confused as to how women having babies and the exaltation of motherhood will solve the dating problem Chris?

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

I was too! I just published another video on this in which I tried to put those puzzle pieces together: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKazeqFodpJoeKMsi=uJzQ5wbCIE8qSlno

@crawfordbrown75 Ай бұрын

I think Chris is a well reasoned and balanced individual who would actually agree with you on a lot of your points. Maybe his views are a little biased, we all are. I think you two would be great in a conversation together.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

thank you for the kind comment!

@MaxBasedMexican88 Ай бұрын

Modern Woman logic 101 - if it sounds nice, it's true and I agree. If it sounds mean, it's false and I desagree lol key example: abortion. Call it choice, they like and believe it. Call it what it is, murder, they hate it and don't believe it is murder. Truth is like holy water on demons for modern women lol so easily manipulated by Satan's slogans

@acc426 Ай бұрын

What is his point? The world would be better if women would just get pregnant and have a bunch of kids as a priority because pursuing education or the right partner with a stable job will end up in depriving all and any men of relationships/sex and make women unhappy and childless? This guy has no f’ing clue of how many factors are at play for a woman having kids. For examplewomen who have a happy and stable relationship but they’ve chosen not to have kids because they simply can’t imagine putting their bodies through the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth. Or the financial burden is not something they want to bear. He uses his statistics in a such a reductionist way it’s embarrassing. I would call it the short guy problem.

@WigganNuG Ай бұрын

Yea that was a whole lot of putting words in another persons mouth right there. Good job.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

yeah, he really does a trick on so many people with misusing the numbers .. the whole 78% of women wanting men with stable jobs somehow turns into proof of hypergamy? most people can't even afford not to have stable jobs in the first place... and then to turn that 'stable job' data into women only going for 'the super chads', then blaming women for discouraging other women from having kids, thinking that what women need most is moral glorification of motherhood instead of actual help .. oh boy, the comments on this video have drawn in literal red pill nutjobs - someone wrote that women should not be able to vote :)

@beneath_the_pavement Ай бұрын

I love this woman’s femininity

@St.Ariful_islam Ай бұрын

5:20 why the hell have kids before marriage.

@bigj3508 Ай бұрын

I’m so glad this bitter woman’s anecdotal experience has debunked the mountain of data and studies Chris references. 😂

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

mountain of data and studies? you ought to listen more carefully to what he is actually saying, the numbers he is throwing out do not match his narrative ..e.g. he bases the 'tall girl problem' on data saying that 78% of women want men with stable jobs, and then spins that into women only going for the 'super chads' - there is literally no connection between the data he presented and the cartoonish claim he is making about women made based on it

@WigganNuG Ай бұрын

So how did women and men manage to have children without a massive state economy behind them paying for their safety net with everyone else tax dollars? How did we get to this point where we feel its the rest of society's responsibility to fund other people having children? I do believe there should be some kind of "safety net" for people for a variety of factors beyond people control, but for women and men who are able of body and mind should, as most of do anyway, take care of our own affairs including funding our children's lives.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

I agree with you - I definitely don't negate the importance of personal responsibility ..I am simply offering an alternative perspective to CW's claim that 'pedestalising motherhood' would make women feel more safe to have kids - knowing that there is a social safety net, should something go wrong, is a more practicable assurance than moral glory of some sort from pedestalising motherhood

@ebingo10 Ай бұрын

Madam, I watched your video to the end and got a headache. He mentions the tall girl problem and you also bring it up as you encourage women to date men in the lower socioeconomic class. As I said, you are reacting to what he says you are not actively listening. To close, you also call him a misogynist, which is a terrible label to give someone solely to discredit their argument. You didn't listen.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

the problem is that CW is NOT encouraging women to date men in the lower socioeconomic class .. he never once suggests it in this interview - instead, he starts talking about how women should focus on having kids instead of education and career ..which is not a bad thing in and of itself either for the women that want to do this, however, he disregards the reality of what a vulnerable position women put themselves in if they do not think about their own education and career ..and this is a 4 part series - the conclusion of misogyny is based on all 4 parts, which included him putting the 'biggest problem in modern dating' on women, claiming that women are going for 'the super chads' based on data saying that women want men with stable jobs, AND stating that other women are to blame for women being hesitant about having kids - those are all pretty misogynistic claims based on NO data by the way (wanting a man with a stable job does NOT equal to women going for the 'super chads')

@ebingo10 Ай бұрын

@@RandomEuropeanYT Let's say that you are right because I haven't watched the full interview. So everyone who's opinion is directed towards one gender or the other as the cause of any problem simply means the person hates the other gender. So what if we had someone who thinks it's 50-50 does that person simultaneously become a misogynist and an andragonist? I think people who put negative labels on people really just want the other person to shot up. Now I don't have a way to give feedback to CW to tell him why I think men who want to build family and have the heart for it go after women with no interest in that and they too could take some of the blame but I can't... I want to still ask, what percentage of men do you think lack stable jobs? What percentage of women are will to date a man of lower socioeconomics status than her? If women have collectively express their wish for a men higher on the socioeconomic ladder why do you think it's a man's (like CW) responsibility to encourage or discouraged that when it's basically the cards he's being given. Who would be in a better position to show younger women that there is more to a man than his income? younger men, Older men, fellow young women or older women? See if you can answer these question without looking like you're taking sides and demonizing the others. Like I said fantastic content and I'm glad you replied.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

hate is the wrong word here - misogyny does not necessarily have to be about outright hate, but also prejudice ..based on this interview I cannot conclude that CW HATES women, but he certainly seems heavily prejudiced against women I cannot give you a % of men that lack stable jobs, because that data would vary in different countries, but in regard to women dating down in socioeconomic terms, you can check out this study from 2016: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421994/ the important thing in terms of this comment thread is to note that CW does NOT even for once suggest in this interview that women should date down - that was my big 'what the hell' reaction about the whole discussion.. instead, what found is that on his own channel, he has content discussing why women dating down is actually BAD, check this out for example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXmWi6iOoNGnqdU so if the tall girl dating up is bad and creates a problem, but CW is saying the solution is for the tall girl to focus on having babies, and CW does NOT say that the tall girl should start considering shorter men, and then CW spreads the message that actually 'dating down' is BAD, then what can one conclude based on all of this put together..

@mapletree3434 20 күн бұрын

Oh, heavens, misogyny is not 'I hate women, so they shouldn't exist' kind of attitude. Instead, like the most 'isms', it's about 'this group is/should be for this role in the society' attitude. When you had to explain that to anyone, consider the conversation a lost cause. Great video! Kudos, for attempting to engage with that person in the comments.

@ebingo10 20 күн бұрын

@@mapletree3434 then the creator who shares the same views on "the tall girl problem" but doesn't name it the tall girl problem but suggests solutions to the problem like say...women dating down.... she's also a misogynist. Thank you for calling me a person and not some derogatory term. I think you are a person too

@whocaresnotme9434 Ай бұрын

This is the very first video i have seen of yours but i subbed within the first 3 mins

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

wow, I am so happy to read such a positive and encouraging comment on this video! thank you so much!

@ManguKaru Ай бұрын

Kogemata sattusin vaatama. Teema nii huvitav, et vaatasin kõik 4 osa ära👍. Väga julge ja cool, et reactisid sellele videole! KZbinis leiab liiga palju sellist "naiste vastaseid" videosi. Harva leiab videosi, mis käsitleb mündi teist poolt adekvaatselt. Mõned välja toodud argumendid olid mulle mõtleva panevad, mille peale mehena pole ise mõelnud või tulnud. Ma arvan, et üks asi, millest sa valesti aru said oli see Chris väide, et 50% mehi ei taha commitida. Mehena seda kuulates mulle oli kohe selge, mida ta mõtles. Ta mõtles siin seda, et 50% kes on nii öelda "nähtamatud", siis nad kohtingu turust välja lülitanud end sellepärast, et neil pole võimalust leida kedagi ja selle asemel pigem annavad alla ja mängivad videomänge ja teevad kanepit jms. Ehk kind of süüdistatakse siin jälle kõrgete standarditega naisi, mis paneb mehi sellesse olukorda. Mitte, et 50% meestest lihtsalt niisama ei taha naistega suhtesse astuda ja pingutada. Ma arvan, et peaaegu iga täiskasvanud inimene tahab olla õnnelikkus respekteerivas suhtes, kuid kui selleni jõudmine on liiga raske, siis lihtsalt antakse alla. Ise 30ndates mees, kes samuti elanud üsna kuiva elu ja keda korduvalt Eesti naitse poolt maha tehtud. Olen üks nendest meestest, kes enam ei taha kohtingule minna. Samas ei süüdista ainult naisi selles. Kindlasti naiste kõrged standardid on probleem. Aga ikka ise ka süüdi ja ilmselt põhjuseid on veel. Näiteks nagu liigse Chris Williamsoni sarnase info liikumine, mis olgem ausad tekitab meestes veits viha ja usaldamatust naiste suhtes.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

vau, eestikeelne kommentaar siin sellisel teemal ja veel meesterahvalt .. aitäh kommenteerimast! ja aitäh selgituse eest! ma sellesse 50% juttu tõepoolest ei süvenenud eriti, kuna naisena torkas mul valupunktina eelkõige silma see jutu teine pool .. viimastel aastatel on mul internetis ringi klikkides tekkinud siiras mure noorte naiste pärast, kellele söödetakse hullult "õppimine ja töö pole tähtsad" sõnumit ja tehke ikka kohe lapsi ja küll kõik paika loksub sõnumit, maru ohtlik sõnum, kuna ise olen näinud, kui halvasti need asjad lõppeda võivad

@ebingo10 Ай бұрын

5:20 Hi, I'm a commenter from Nigeria. You're talking about social safety nets but in the places I know where social safety has been introduced it has led to reduced birth rates not increased and simultaneously increased single mother rates. I stand to be corrected to but your solution doesn't seem like one that will work

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

not claiming social security is a definite solution, but that having a safety net in place (should something go wrong) is more ensuring than a moral glorification of motherhood for those that hesitate whether to have kids or not

@ebingo10 Ай бұрын

@@RandomEuropeanYT Even though I don't fully understand what it would be like to not want children as a woman and have society shove those ideas at me, I don't think demoralizing women who want to be mothers helps in the direction you would want it to. I think society has made it's shifts and I would argue that globally we are more liberal and warm to stay at home dads and working mother's or single childless people regardless of their gender. I hope to keep on making content to point it out so those who want to make a decision on their lives can do so without feeling forced and realizing the dynamics of society. Social safety net are not what people think they are. The more money we give these government officials the less accountable they become and more likely they are to cut corners. They'll cheat, lie and steal and call observations of them doing so conspiracy theories. It's happening around the world. The most accountable safety net for all people has always been a stable family and you can argue with that but the evidence against it are several unsuccessful schemes by governments that do not really care. I think you are very articulate and I enjoyed your content because it's relatable. Thanks for the time and your feedback.

@JustAnotherPerson4U Ай бұрын

This guy talks about mating like we're apes. Yes, we're animals (I just did a whole essay connecting human storytelling to nature that included this) and yes we're evolutionary related to apes. That doesn't mean we ARE apes. We're our own species with similarities but our own way of attracting each other. And even among the apes i imagine they have variations on what attracts them to their mates. So yeah. I feel like this guy is trying to attach a rulebook titled 'humanity and how mating works' and aiming it for males. Completely forgetting basic sense about the females of his species because he's only thinking about the male side.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

yes!! exactly - he is completely disregarding the female perspective and this becomes ESPECIALLY evident when he talks about motherhood

@Dandeeman26 Ай бұрын

Ok well that was annoying.

@RandomEuropeanYT Ай бұрын

well, thanks for commenting anyways! it helps with the algorithm ;)

@Dandeeman26 Ай бұрын

@@RandomEuropeanYT lol it's about the $

@stephenrose9157 Ай бұрын

Run

@vyassathya Ай бұрын

women n men dont need each other. this is sad we cant just accept it. most ppl know how to choose a good partner and dont know how to be appealing to the opposite gender over time. and its ok thats just the cost of individualism

@WigganNuG Ай бұрын

Women and men don't need each. We REQUIRE one another, and we SEEK out one another quite naturally. You're observation makes zero sense and does not comport with either science or simple lived human experience.