Part Two: TB Joshua: The Evangelical Pastor Who Built His Own Hell | BEHIND THE BASTARDS

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Part Two: TB Joshua: The Evangelical Pastor Who Built His Own Hell | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert and Miles get to the nightmare heart of the TB Joshua story: a sprawling empire of sexual violence and gaslighting on an epic scale.
Original Air Date: February 29, 2024
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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[@robinbickerdike3076]

I'd watch a reality show where people are taken to a beautiful pastoral setting and everything is serene and peaceful and then BOOM, you're actually a guest on a Behind the Bastards episode

[@EvilGenius007]

Oh god, I can see it. There's a couch at the top of a small hill, overlooking rolling green fields. We hear birds singing and a creek babbling in the distance. As our camera crew follows the guest on their trek to the top of the rise we realize that seated on an overstuffed armchair positioned at a jaunty angle near the couch is a single figure with their back turned to the camera. He rises and warmly shakes the guests hand, smiling as with disconcerting ease he says "Welcome. I'm Robert Evans, and this is Behind the Bastards; a podcast about the very worst people in all of history."

[@NimhLabs]

Alternatively... you get bait-and-switched from thinking you've been brought onto "To catch a predator"... but instead of whats-his-face coming out to chide you on being a creep... it is Robert Evans coming out to have you be a guest on Behind the Bastard

[@lukelee7967]

"Oh, this is nice, I love the weather today. Oh yes, I would love a sandwich and some lemonade... Oh shit, is that Robert Evans? Oh no, he's carrying a notebook"

[@fen7662]

I could see it. In a countryside cottage, hot tea on the table with some cookies or whatever and suddenly "you know who also likes tea? (probably, I don't know) ... Jimmy Saville." And suddenly you're stuck finding out the situation was even worse and more depressing than you remember.

[@NimhLabs]

@@fen7662 "Gog dang it! Why couldn't it have just been actual cannibal Shia LaBeouf instead?" =P

[@kyleknox4129]

I would like to thank Robert from the bottom of my heart; his piercing yet dulcet vocal tones make this podcast the only one I can listen to in the shower with my shoddy old cell phone speaker.

[@SesshyLover777]

Talked to my Nigerian bestie about these episodes and she said people STILL like him to this day...😩😭

[@thebigstory7151]

If say anything like this about him,you could get beaten. We need help here,it's insane.

[@dancidchen]

Miles is one of my favorite guests, he got great chemistry with anyone and always sharp and witty even on a emotionally draining show like bastards.

[@justcommenting4981]

This guy is a GENIUS. Omg. Just diabolical. Wow. Incredible anime level villainy.

[@portmantologist]

I've clearly been listening to too much BtB, because when you said TB Joshua was raping an estimated 4-5 women a week, I actually thought "that's not as bad as I was expecting".

[@mizzenmax]

I was expecting them to finish with “per DAY” and not week; we are in the same boat. 😂😅

[@NeighborhoodOfBlue]

Why was this man not imprisoned a long time ago? This is horrifying and absurd, and the church collapse almost jonestown-level shocking.

[@Virjunior01]

Religion. A cult that isn't Christian won't last anywhere near as long. Pastors of megachurches primarily only focus outwardly on sapping money... which they also use to hire contractors and outright buy stuff. Also tax breaks and religious exemptions in the US help soften the "blow" to their pockets... ALSO, white evangelical Americans in tandem with American media and government essentially giving exactly one shit about anywhere that isn't England, Australia,, Russia, Iran or China.

[@joshuajames6481]

he was very litigious sued and harassed anyone who tried to expose him he poured a lot of money into charity a ridículous amount he had close ties to government officials

[@EvilGenius007]

I mean, how can one even imagine living in a country where a so-called leader that some people inexplicably find charismatic to the extent they claim he accomplished great things that there's no evidence of is allowed to escape or indefinitely delay punishment for his many crimes because the corrupt justice system takes money from the wealthy?

[@jenniferklein1707]

"why was this man not imprisoned a long time ago" could be the motto of this podcast lol

[@BongRippingRiffLover51]

Glancing at the history of Nigeria just on Wikipedia alone, TB Joshua spent the vast majority of his life and bastard-like career in a nation that has faced political turmoil, economic strife, and civil war (Nigeria was a British colony for a long time before all of that happened. Ain't that a funny coincidence?). Basically, the country's leadership have had more pressing shit to deal with than a crazy, abusive, and r@pey preacher dude running a weird religious cult who was actually bringing money into the area. A lot of these kinds of cults that get massive do typically operate in places that have a lot of other stuff going on, because the governments in those areas are too busy putting out all kinds of fires at once, figuratively and literally, and the cult can go on for years without getting looked at by the critical eyes of officials, especially if said cult is stimulating the region's economy.

[@nathanomotayojohnson8945]

I grew up in lagos at the time, and I think I remember this specific incident, but all I remember is that the building was made badly.

[@deadcactus3823]

I know several people that went to visit TB. People really really believed.

[@Bxcivic]

I really don't mean to come across as an ass, but are these people mentally well? Cuz I mean you have to have had some serious mental issues to go out there in the first place and voluntarily.

[@gregmark1688]

On a completely unrelated note, Cody Johnston seemed to reference RE's ad intro line in the latest episode of Some More News. It's not clear he realized he was doing it; he could have been doing it just because he's been on BTB and heard it so many times. Either way, it was a standard "You know who won't rape your mother and burn your dog?" lead in, and it was a lot of fun, I thought.

[@KSignalEingang]

If stealing RE's jokes is a crime, I'm gonna need a good lawyer.

[@NimhLabs]

If stealing RE's jokes is a crime, I'm going to have to get really good at jail politics. To be the baddest mofo on the cell block

[@gregmark1688]

Hey, I said it was a lot of fun! I sure enjoyed it, anyway.

[@Robot_Eva]

So very 'glad' we share the earth with people like this. Definitely not existentially terrifying at all

[@ianporter2446]

scone in UK: 😄 scone in Nigeria 😧

[@mattparkent440]

I kinda think that if I was born in one of those "3rd world" countries, I would have ended up as warlord or cult leader...

[@THEHAR0LD]

He had such an easy out with the Clinton "prophecy" - he could've just said that he meant the popular vote. Going for all that "higher plane of spiritual understanding" nonsense is just adding difficulty for no reason, lol. EDIT: Boko Haram jets? From Boko Haram's air force?

[@trifontrifonov4297]

He could afterwards always say, no I said Boca Raton, you just heard me wrong. Basically the Frank Reynolds school of gaslighting. I mean they are the same level of depraved crazy, only Frank is fictional and actually funny. Also played Danny Devito so he is one charming fucker.....oh my god I just got hit by the idea of what could've happened of Danny was evil and instead of acting decide to start a cult. Now that's a scary thought.

[@majuuorthrus3340]

May I recommend Indonesian food for sinus issues. I had that stuff and it cleared my sinuses, and I didn't even know I had blocked sinuses. Also it's super tasty.

[@deonna53223]

The fastest I've ever hit play 😅

[@alexbagbutt6984]

Listening to the unknown medicine treatments is horrifying to me as someone who is disabled and chronically ill on so many levels. Let's start with the fact that treatment without someone's knowledge or consent is basically medical assault; drugging people without their consent can lead down a serious slippery slope; and then I wonder how many medical professionals they had there to deal with potential overdoses or allergic reactions! The medical ethics in this is unbelievably horrifyingly shattered.

[@justcommenting4981]

That is a bizarre angle to take. That is arguably the best thing he did. Curing someone's parasites and telling them it is magic is not assault. The bigger issue is medicine that could help them was not immediately rendered when their illness was known. I have to assume that you must be vehemently anti forced vaccination though.

[@alexbagbutt6984]

@@justcommenting4981 I'm sorry that you are unable to tell the difference between treating someone without their permission and public safety mandates. I am absolutely for mandated vaccines, as well as the consequences for choosing not to get one, although i qm for allowing people to choose. One person's factually false blind belief does not give them the right to endanger the lives of venerable people however. That is selfish and cruel ideology of the worst order. If you don't want the vaccine, fine; just don't inconvenience those of us that are fine with it. Your life is not more important than anyone else's.

[@justcommenting4981]

@@alexbagbutt6984 oh man you threw that whole high horse about medical consent and slippery slope right out the window didn't you. You just had a really goofy opinion that the thing worth focusing on was medical consent to be treated and cured as though by magic. As opposed to lying and delaying care.

[@alexbagbutt6984]

@@justcommenting4981 Again ignoring a series of facts like how they could easily be killing these people if they had allergies or other reactions to the medication they are being unwillingly administered, plus the fact that these people seem to be guessing at what the actual problem is instead of doing proper and full medical investigations. Then there's again the fact that forcing a treatment on someone is just wrong. You made that fact yourself talking about forced vaccines. THOSE are important to keeping people alive and healthy, yet we aren't running around randomly sticking people who refuse. Your privilege is showing bare ass.

[@sd-ch2cq]

​@@justcommenting4981 It seems you just don't understand the concept of accidental overdose on medicine. Which is something that happens all the time in hospitals.

[@jessaminehaak8253]

I think an episode on Die Antwoord would be very entertaining XD

[@Bxcivic]

Yes!!! Been waiting for that.

[@GrayYeonWannabe]

oof (edit: oof in agreement)

[@jundrayling9576]

Wait, Die Antword is BtB worthy???

[@jundrayling9576]

Oh my goodness. Did me some google learning and wow is that shit heinous.

[@therideneverends1697]

@@jundrayling9576 Oh yeah those two aare walking attoricites. Never, Trust, a Wh1te, South African

[@lukelee7967]

Yeah, he gave money to some decent causes. It turns out shitty people can buy good PR.

[@bob3ironfist]

10% tithe is default mormonism btw. crazy shit

[@eisforenkai]

It’s normal for a lot of Christian denominations. It references back to this story in Genesis where IIRC King Melkizadek (probably butchering the spelling but I don’t want to look it up) receiving a prophecy from God where he was told to give 10% of everything he had to Abraham. Which sounds SUUUUUPER scammy taken out of context. Honestly, probably in context too. I think there’s a stronger tradition of tithing among the Second Great Awakening denominations (SDA, which I grew up in, Mormonism, and I think JW has tithing too?), but I definitely heard about the concept of tithing in the non-denominational Evangelical but mostly Southern Baptist school I attended. Another podcast I listen to, Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk, did an episode on tithing as it was actually in the Bible, and it’s pretty interesting and NOTHING like what tithing in most churches looks like. www.irreverent.fm/show/go-home-bible-youre-drunk/episode-67-tithes-and-grifts/

[@josch5071]

You probably wouldn't put antibiotics into Yogurt because milk products can fuck with them

[@LucasZorua]

Do they normally upload near midnight??? Such an odd choice

[@zhitchcresttail3387]

It seems so, I work closing shift and this is my after work smoking podcast a lot of the time.

[@Ezekiel_Allium]

Long video = long upload time. probably took an hour or two.

[@JONNYSORENSEN_AU]

MCU SCENE OF THE CRIME..next on Fx

[@GilTheDragon]

Did this guy never hear of the fucking tower of babel?

[@ianporter2446]

This approaches LRH levels of fuckery

[@notinspectorgadget]

The worst part of this whole episode is hearing that Die Antwoord might be bad people.

[@Taskicore]

This is some Borrasca level shit

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a Paulogia and Vaush fan!

[@jundrayling9576]

'Love' from a defender of a child s*xualisation material enjoyer is love not worth having.

[@noop1111]

He know de wey. He cure the ebola.

[@GasparGa]

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but after hearing a story like this, if you still believe that there is a God, who created us in his own image and is all powerful and sees everything and all of this is just "part of his plan".....I'm sorry, you need medical treatment or something

[@TheRealJamieEspy]

For the Love of Buddha-ROBERT EVANS: LIKE, You have a problem saying LIKE LIKE every other word LIKE is LIKE, LIKE ,it is so LIKE annoying. LIKE it makes this podcast LIKE hard to listen to because LIKE you say LIKE LIKE a million times a sentence. LIKE, do you even realize it?? LIKE, it's hard not to because LIKE you say it LIKE every LIKE word LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE........ Enough,man!!