Burson Soloist Grand Tourer Headphone Amp - Bigger! Bolder! Better?

[@sixtyfivefiftysovtek6771]

Congratulations Lachlan for being one of the first reviewers in the entire world to give us a very detailed review of this new unit from Burson. They knew you would do a nice job on the review for the Burson GT, so they sent one to you. They have a lot of confidence in you. I absolutely loved the intro! Sounded roughly like an air cooled Porsche 911 starting up. Keep up the good work.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks so much - glad you liked the review! I'm not sure which sound effect I ended up with. I know a couple I tried were from Aston Martins, but some weren't labelled with the brand of car 🙂

[@jlemaster1157]

Lachlan I love your reviews and this one has become a ‘classic’. I have all but ordered the GT to pair with Yggy+ OG and Susvara all based on your thorough and thoughtful reviews. While op amp rolling may not be necessary or recommended for this amp, there is an ENORMOUS amount of posts on Head-Fi about doing so, with many claiming different sonic benefits. I don’t think it needs a review on your part focused on that, but it emphasizes the nearly- infinite flexibility of these Burson amps and the difficulty of comparing the GT to other amps on the market for which even the possibility of op amp rolling isn’t a feature. I have the opportunity to trade-in my 3XP (also bought after watching your reviews) but I love it so much I’m not sure I can bring myself to do it. Go Burson!

[@PassionforSound]

So glad I've been able to help you find products you love so much, Joe! Op-amp rolling on the GT is a commitment because there are SO many op-amps, but I agree that it's fantastic to have the option.

[@ranelime]

It's finally a pleasure to watch HiFI, not just hearing through it

[@PassionforSound]

😁

[@jasonp1568]

I received mine and I am pleased. Beautiful sound with Susvara and Abyss TC. Whilst it was already excellent by itself, I connected a very good tube preamplifier (Cayin SC 6LS mk2) with some great NOS tubes and the combination just took it to a whole nother level.

[@PassionforSound]

That's great news! Thank you for sharing your experiences!

[@robbrookby3350]

I have been op amp rolling my GT for months. I mean it when I say with SIL994s at the input stage, Sparkos2590s at the volume stage, and Vivids at Voltage control, you land on the doorsteps of Elysium. You must try this, Lachlan.

[@Tidwillshare]

Hi Lachlan. I bought the 3xp driven in part by your review, so I understand why Burson trusted you for this showcase, congratulations! This said, my 3xp came with the continuous knob instead of the clicky one. I can confirm that it is quite a pain for the menus and it's pretty much the only thing I don't like about the 3xp. Just wanted to let you know that some units share the knob. Keep up the great reviews.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you're enjoying everything else about the 3XP. It's a real disappointment, that control knob. Hopefully they find a better solution in future products.

[@aceofspades6667]

Thanks for posting Lachlan going to get my 🍿. This was a fantastic review well done! You did a thorough job on handling the fan as well as the volume control. I think both of those were a concern for potential buyers.

[@PassionforSound]

So glad you liked it, Ace! 🙂

[@kapiti414]

Great review! One thing that caught my eye was the combo of using headphones and a subwoofer. Sounds gimmicky, but gave it a go with some open back headphones and found it really added to texture of bass heavy music. (Used an RCA splitter to connect a sub from the Khadas tone 2 Pro dac, with the other lines going into a Burson funk amp which I plugged my focal clears into.)

[@PassionforSound]

Glad to hear your tried it. I'm keen to give it a go sometime too when the little guy isn't asleep next door 🙂

[@akeluify]

Another option is a Subpac

[@PassionforSound]

I've contemplated these types of devices before. Might have give one a go

[@Ge0vasny]

I preordered one yesterday! Super excited

[@PassionforSound]

You're going to LOVE it!

[@snowrang3r657]

Dare I say, best intro yet ;) Sounds like the GT is a pretty sweet amp. I think I want to dive down the tube rabbit hole a bit first but I'd love to try one someday.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked the intro. I do enjoy it when I can do something a bit creative with them 🙂 - maybe I can make it a thing with creative b-roll intros more often... The GT is definitely great, but the tube thing sounds like fun too! Keen to hear more about your journey

[@sixtyfivefiftysovtek6771]

@snowrang3r I think you'll love going down the tube rabbit hole. I have several all-tube amplifiers as well as the smaller hybrid types. Wait until you get into tube rolling, switching between (for example) Electro Harmonix tubes for Mullards, or JJ's for Tung Sol's, etc. It can get to be addictive. Pretty soon you'll have a box with a couple dozen tubes in it. And that's nothing. Some tube folks have hundreds of tubes in their collection. Have fun on the tube side of things. Enjoy the music.

[@snowrang3r657]

@@sixtyfivefiftysovtek6771 Thanks for the reply, excited and scared all at the same time!

[@SumbaListens]

Let's Goo!! Been waiting on this one. Great intro 🔥

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked it!

[@sjqideez6626]

Thanks for this Lachlan, appreciate the mention of the 2 dynamic driver earspeakers (AKG K1000 & MySphere) with this unique headphone amplifier.

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure 🙂

[@aceofspades6667]

I wish it could drive the raal SR1a which is supposedly a speaker like experience on your head. That plus a sub sounds like quite the experience.

[@yogiwp_]

Looking forward to the opamp rolling video! I also feel that 3XP's highs need a bit of taming for brighter headphones.

[@gregwx]

That's the one thing that stops me to pull the trigger, I had Beyerdynamics and Arya 2020. There isn't enough info about how sound changes with V6 classics or other Opamps.

[@PassionforSound]

I've started working on it. I'll be talking about the V6 Vivids, Sparkos SS3602 and Staccato discrete op-amps in the 3XP and the Composer

[@xyanide1986]

When I made a demo I also felt that, other than that an excellent amp.

[@aceofspades6667]

@@PassionforSound when you talk about the op amps. I know in the 3XP there are 4 op amps and you can roll in pairs (2 to volume stage and 2 to output stage). I believe the GT had 6 op amps so not sure if you can roll 4 or 2 or if you have to roll all 6.

[@JTB--]

Instead of going down the rabbit hole of amp rolling on my Soloist 3XP... I bought a Schiit Lokius Tone Control/EQ. Smartest move ever. With the Lokius you can tweak a headphone to your likings by adding Bass... smoothing out the treble and basically playing producer with a physical EQ. Great for older/bad recordings

[@ruffandruff]

finally!! excellent review mate! Really hoped that it would do well with iems....its a bummer it doesn't despite being clean. BTW...Amazing cinematography mate...loved the intro!

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked the intro. Yeah, not a great IEM amp. I think the 3XP is still a winner for that purpose.

[@akqr8]

Can’t wait to get mine, great review Lachy!

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked it. You're in for a treat!

[@BigJalapeno]

What a great review, love the comparisons sections.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked it!

[@stevewombwell2571]

What a great review. I have more or less made my mind up to get the Niimbus US5 Pro, but then I read this review ;-) Maybe time to reconsider. A great review , easy to understand too. Subscribed

[@PassionforSound]

Glad your liked the review! I imagine both amps will sound fantastic.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Worth noting, the Noctua fan is an off the shelf part. You could easily source and replace this in the unlikely event the fan was to fail. Or replace with any other 120mm slim line pc fan.

[@PassionforSound]

Absolutely! I'd be reluctant to use a lower quality fan, but the Noctuas are readily available

[@lextr3110]

this should be burson job!

[@PassionforSound]

Not sure what you mean? It's unlikely you'll have to change it for 10 years or so at least, but if you do eventually, it's a very simple swap.

[@lextr3110]

@@PassionforSound it will void the warranty so yeah it's burson job to make it silent even with a fan.

[@itsabodh]

@@lextr3110 warranty only lasts 1 year so no it’s our job to swap the fan with some LED fans

[@krisrudecki9477]

Great review, got tempted with the pre order bonus (supercharger and stand) and pulled the trigger. One HUGE benefit is amp rolling. I got Soloist 3xp from great to awesome with amp rolling and the supercharger so I expect nothing less from the GT 🤘

[@PassionforSound]

Congrats, Kris! Which op-amps did you land on with the 3XP? I've changed the 3XP configuration too, but not sure if I want to touch the perfection of the GT.

[@krisrudecki9477]

@@PassionforSound Classics on input and Sparkos on volume. It added body, clarity to mid range and smoothed out the top end.

[@PassionforSound]

Nice. I might need to get some Classics to add them to the mix

[@TheRevoR]

@@krisrudecki9477 On my 3XP with SP I do classics at input and vivids at volume. Did you try that and can give impressions versus Sparkos?

[@krisrudecki9477]

@@TheRevoR less treble, cleaner midrange, a bit less bass.

[@robertnoblitt518]

Thanks Lachlan! This is a review I was eager to see. I've now ordered a Soloist GT. Buyers in the U.S. may like to know the GT can be ordered (as of now) at the 10%-off pre-order price from Bloom Audio, with free shipping.

[@PassionforSound]

Great news. I hope you're as impressed as I was! Thanks for sharing the Bloom deal top, Bobby!

[@burg856]

I would like more of how the pre amp performed. How Driving an amp to speakers would be benefited with the upgrade to the GT.

[@PassionforSound]

I had to draw the line somewhere and the pre-amp performs identically to the headphone stage so very clean, neutral and transparent, but smooth

[@dasninjastix]

Hell of an intro. We need to get you more subs Mate. Maybe we can have a bake off?

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. Thanks Ninja! Bake Off, hey? Not sure how that might work... 🙂

[@pnp405]

Thanks for the great review! Interesting, will there be an Composer Grand Tourer DAC...

[@PassionforSound]

Interesting question? I'm not sure, but I also haven't asked...

[@DwarfsRBest]

Really curious about the sub/headphone pairing. Going to have to look into this further

[@PassionforSound]

I still haven't tried that one. It's definitely interesting though and couldn't totally change certain headphones like HD800S, Utopia, Susvara.

[@jurumal]

Thanks for reviewing my next headphone amp! Haha that is, after the amp I’m expecting to receive this week, Soloist 3XP. How does 3XP’s treble emphasis compare to THX 789’s treble emphasis? I’m upgrading from a 789.

[@PassionforSound]

I find it better than the 789 - you're in for a treat. I've also got a video coming up for op-amp rolling on the 3XP which can really help with the treble even further.

[@jonathansabini4039]

I have just a couple of questions if you don't mind answering them. 1. Would a Schiit Bifrost 2 DAC be a noticeably limiting factor paired with Soloist 3X GT? I can't afford "endgame" amp and DAC at the same time... 2. How do you feel the Soloist GT would match with either ZMF Atrium or Verite? I know you mentioned the Autuer, and you have listened to the others I mentioned as well. I know the Burson would have zero problem driving them of course. I would be upgrading from a Jotunheim 2, which I've greatly enjoyed. As usual an excellent and informative review, thank you Lachlan!

[@PassionforSound]

Happy to answer 🙂 The Bifrost 2 will be the limiting factor in the short term, but the upgrade will still be a big step from the Jotunheim 2 (no knock on the Jot 2 - the GT is a way more expensive amp). Don't let that stop you upgrading though. You can always upgrade the DAC later if you want to. As for the headphones, the GT would be great with either/both ZMF headphone, but I personally prefer the Verité with a tube amp because the Verité is so fast that the tube helps to give it more presence/body. The Atrium is a brilliant match with the GT though.

[@jonathansabini4039]

@@PassionforSound Last couple of questions re Soloist GT: I got one several days ago, and overall it is pretty stunning! Amazing detail, clarity, and sound stage, even with a Bifrost 2. It seems to have total control of the drivers in the headphone... I did want to ask you about the fan. Mine runs at a constant speed, fixed rate. Did the fan on yours run at a fixed speed? Since it is a computer fan I was under the impression it was variable speed. Is that incorrect? I do wish it was a bit quieter, as I am in a quiet setting when I listen... But I can't hear it at normal listening levels. Coming from several different Schiit amps (Jot 2, Lyr 3, Valhalla 2) the Burson seems to have less impactful bass. It does slam hard, and is very controlled. But it just seems like the Schiit amps have more noticeable bass dynamics. What do you think? At first I thought it was perhaps more the case with ZMF headphones since the amp is very low output impedance and they are high impedance, but the Jot 2 is also low output impedance. Plus I noticed the same phenomenon with Focal Clears on the Burson vs Schiit. I'm sure both Burson and Schiit measure absolutely flat frequency response fwiw. Any thoughts? I ask you because I trust your reviews and find them super informative. Thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you're enjoying the GT! The fan does run at a constant speed because (as I understand it) they've tuned it to run at less than full speed and there is a consistent need for cooling from the amp because it doesn't scale the heat output like a computer where processing demands can vary and therefore heat output too. As for the Schiit vs Burson comparison, my take on it (based on what I've heard across heaps of gear) is that the Schiit amps are deliberately tuned to be fun. It means the Soloist GT is technically more accurate IMO, but that doesn't mean it's a better tuning because I do also love the sound of the Schiit amps I've tried.

[@Kchiocchio]

Nice review! I have the soloist 3xp and was looking to upgrade to the GT or go with the GS-X mini.... what do you recommend between those two?

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't tried the GSX-Mini. It's hard to imagine it beating the GT though. The Soloist 3XP yes, but I expect the GT to be a tier higher still.

[@Kchiocchio]

@@PassionforSound thanks for the quick reply! You're awesome. If you had to say a percentage of sound quality Increase of the GT over the soloist; what % would you say? Thanks

[@PassionforSound]

Hmmmm. Numbers are always tough, but maybe 10-15% depending on your DAC and headphones (i.e. better gear on either side will improve the differences you'll hear)

[@samgilliland3423]

You should check out the schitt ragnarok2 its a beast .26watts at 32 ohms balanced ,7 watts at 32 ohms single ended a clean fun sound that's slightly warm but still highly detailed. It is also an awesome preamp and stereo amplifier 60 watts x 2 at 8ohms , 100 watts x 2 at 4 ohms. Its become my favorite amp and an amazing all in one solution.

[@samgilliland3423]

For iems I really like the timekeeper that I use as my home office amp .for speakers I use magnapan lrs with the ragnarok 2 in my living room. In my office with the burson timekeeper I'm using a set of GR research nx studio monitors.

[@PassionforSound]

I've always wanted to try the Ragnarok, but my understanding is the V2 is more speaker amp and less headphone amp which put me off a bit. The Timekeeper looks like a great device too

[@MMRSean]

With how highly you praised the Soloist 3XP, it’s pretty impressive to hear that this is yet even another noticeable improvement over that! Out of curiosity, how would you compare the 3XP with the supercharger to the 3GT? Would you still say there’s a significant difference or does the gap become more difficult to differentiate?

[@PassionforSound]

That's a great question. All of my testing for the comparisons in this review were using the 3XP with the Super Charger and the GT without so it's still a big upgrade

[@brooksphillips2234]

@@PassionforSound what kind of upgrade are you talking about?

[@PassionforSound]

I'm talking about the upgrade in sound quality from the Soloist 3XP to the Soloist GT. 🙂

[@jasonp1568]

Good work on the vid, Lachlan! A bit shady about the “believers of the amp power myth” hahaha but I respect your take and candor.

[@PassionforSound]

Wasn't meaning to be shady 🙂 just saying that this has the same power output as speaker amps provide to headphones so those that feel the need for speaker amp power can comfortably buy this instead. I am, however, still trying to get that myth to end though because I see so many people spend insane amounts of money on speaker amps with no real benefit and significant challenges like limited volume range, higher noise floor, etc. For the same money (or often quite a bit less) they could buy a high quality dedicated headphone amp like a Sparkos Aries or Soloist GT and have much better usability along with equivalent or maybe better sound.

[@jasonp1568]

@@PassionforSound I think it’s also possible there’s unexplained mystery with the Susvara drivers, that many people can hear that they can squeeze more out of the Sus with more power than what Susvara’s paper specs require. Perhaps that’s why one can probably hear Susvara best out of Hifiman’s own EF1000 specifically designed for the Sus, which has more power than sensible on paper.

[@PassionforSound]

It all comes back to the quality of the amplifier being used (i.e. quality, not quantity). Part of my point was that most amps actually have plenty more power than the Susvaras need. They need less than 500mW for loud listening levels so anything more than a watt is overkill (not saying that it's bad, just more than needed). I can't stress enough that every time someone says X power amp with 50W sounded better with Y headphone amp with 2W, it's no different than saying A headphone amp with 1W sounded better than B headphone amp with 1W. It's about the quality of the amp circuit, not the power output (unless grossly underpowered so the amp is running at its limits)

[@jasonp1568]

@@PassionforSound I think there just used to be a dearth of headphone amps that could drive the Susvara several years ago, and at the time the only other options are speaker amps that are capable. Folks learned that instead of spending 8k on a powerful enough headphone amp, there are very good speaker amps that cost 1k which could sound better. I know, I chose a Burson Timekeeper over a Bakoon 13R, and the Burson sounded better to me with better bass and grip at only 750usd used. But now, the younger headphone amp technology is catching up with the more established power amp tech, at better prices, and therefore it will only be a matter of time before the community naturally gravitates towards headphone amps for TC/Susvara once more.

[@PassionforSound]

That's a really good point and may well be part of the genesis of that way of thinking. I agree that modern headphone amps are massively improved in power, quality and price over the offerings from not that long ago. Great point

[@CheapMessiah]

On the subject of susvaras, i went back to watch you A90+D90 video and you didnt mention them at the time, but seeing as this has enough power for them at what problably is 6 or so W at 62ohm, would you consider or have experienced that the A90 on 4+w at same load considering you werent using this amp on more than 20% of its capacity.

[@blejzerosamigos6115]

You will never hear what that headphone is capable of with topping set up

[@PassionforSound]

I agree about the A90. It's very limiting in the sense that it creates a slightly unnatural sound and flattens the soundstage. If you really want a measurement focussed amp that's built for ultra-low distortion then it's one of the best, but the ultra-low distortion isn't the be-all and end-all

[@rbsorg]

I got close to purchasing but Burson did now want to offer the special when your video aired. The deal was expired and I am a stubborn American. Have you tried the soloist (gt or non gr8) with the Focal Utopia?

[@PassionforSound]

Burson reinstated the special at the time my video released, but there may have been a short delay between the video going live and them reactivating the launch special. That aside, I have used the Utopias with the Soloist 3XP and Soloist GT - the GT in particular is an excellent match in terms of sonic character (it's way more powerful than needed).

[@kyron42]

Nice lighting and colour enhancement.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks! Glad you liked it

[@brettgregory7799]

Comprehensive, and very well done as usual. Do you have a suggestion or two for a DAC to go with it? I thought I heard you mention which DAC you were using, but I can't find that spot in the vid again. A 4.4mm output on the front would be very useful. For those of us who have a DAP with a 4.4 o/p and a custom-made (very expensive) cable it would mean not having to use an interconnector. Especially given that 4.4mm o/p seems to be the new standard for balanced outputs.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad it was helpful! I would look to pair the GT with something like a Schiit Yggdrasil, Chord Qutest or Holo May (depending on budget and preferences). As for the 4.4mm think l thing, I don't know if it will ever replace XLR, but I agree it's getting more common. I hope we'll see manufacturers producing 4.4mm to twin XLR cables soon

[@brettgregory7799]

@@PassionforSound I meant a 4.4mm headphone output so I can put the same cable into the amp and the DAP.

[@PassionforSound]

Oh, sorry! Yes, having all different output terminations is a bit of a pain, isn't it?

[@vjzapp]

Great review! Always loved your detail explanation! Is there any chance to review the Violectric V550 amp? It’s similarly priced as the grand tourer. In fact I’m an owner of the 550 and barely find anyone online talking about it!

[@PassionforSound]

I don't have access to the V550 to review, but I'd be glad to of I ever get the chance

[@rbsorg]

I have been thinking about that too. Do you like it and what kind of headphones mate well with it?

[@vjzapp]

@@rbsorg with the amount of power it delivers it should mate well with anything. I have tried the Clear MG, HD660 & the Meze Elites they all sounded great! 👍🏻

[@rbsorg]

@@vjzapp do you have play with the volume or is it too loud after 9? I see you have the clear. Does it have a good synergy with the amp and is the clear much better than the elex?

[@vjzapp]

@@rbsorg There are switches on the back to control gain so you don’t have to worry about volume knob as you can play with the gain. Never tried the elex but I love the clear it sounds great and almost any headphone I tried works flawlessly with the 550

[@nippohippo3257]

Awesome review man! I suggest that you review the ferrum stack(oor+hypsos) as well. It has been very well regarded for tonality and its synergy with the susvara. Thank you

[@PassionforSound]

I hope to try them at some point. So far I've had no replies to my email.

[@johenkay1129]

Hey, do you have the GT connected directly into the wall or do you have it connected to a strip of some kind? Do you use audiophile grade power cables?

[@PassionforSound]

I currently use generic power cables, but I have a Thor PS10 power conditioner (for protection more than anything else). That said, the shape of the Burson Super Chargers means that they're plugged into generic power strips.

[@photoipster]

Great review. Truly comprehensive. I love my 3xp. Still deciding on a comparable dac. If you discussed the amp technology in this I missed it. Is it using the vivids?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Jim, glad you liked the review. I actually didn't specify in the video, but it's using V6 Vivids same as the 3XP

[@robkesack133]

Jim, I recently took the jump and purchased a Schiit Yggdrasil DAC to pair with my Soloist 3XP running my Audeze LCD-XC headphones (w/ upgraded drivers). I couldn't be more happy with the quality of the sound I am now experiencing. I feel it's just the right combo to get a great level of detail retrieval while sounding natural and effortless. I've had the Yggdrasil for just over a week, with music streaming as suggested and it appears to only get better with every listening session. I feel the the 3XP's ability to provide clarity, dynamics, nuanced detail, and depth synergizes brilliantly with what the Yggy brings to the table in natural timbre, realistic soundstaging, liquid attack, and effortless playback. I am also really looking forward to Lachlan's upcoming opinions on the best opamps to further enhance the brilliance of the 3XP.

[@PassionforSound]

The Yggy is a GREAT suggestion. I received one recently for review and I love it! I used it for a lot of the testing in this review actually.

[@robkesack133]

@@PassionforSound No kidding! That's awesome. Your previous review of the Bifrost was so helpful in factoring into my decision to consider the Yggy. Your reviews are always incredibly informative. I feel like your preferences very much align with those characteristics I look for in music playback as well. Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the opamps in the Soloist. Did/are you using the Yggy for those comparisons too?

[@PassionforSound]

I've actually used a mixture of DACs for the op-amp rolling, but mostly the Composer.

[@farhanakhtar8252]

The camera work!! Damn!

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked it 😁

[@tdg176]

Are you going to review the Ferrum Oor?

[@PassionforSound]

I do have a contact now and would love to, but it's just a question of timing and fitting in into the schedule.

[@tdg176]

@@PassionforSound look forward to that 👍🏻

[@robertnoblitt518]

I received my Soloist GT today! I'm assuming it needs some burn-in to sound best, but I already note some audible differences and improvements from the Soloist 3X. Definitely the tonality is more neutral with the GT. I pre-ordered from Bloom Audio after I saw your review, and mine came with the 5 amp Supercharger power supply and a Cool Stand. I don't seem to have the problems you described with settings menus. Maybe they modified the interface a bit. I think I'll only need to use low gain. I first set up the amp near my seated position, and the fan was audible with open-backed headphones. So I moved the amp to the limit of my arm's reach, and now I don't notice the fan. In pre-amp mode it works well with my KEF LS50 powered speakers.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you're enjoying your early GT listening and that the fan isn't bothering you. I agree that right up close it can be noticeable, but just a little distance fixes that. It's also great to hear that they've maybe improved the menu system. I know they were aware of the problem so they might have found a solution between my review and the formal release

[@robertnoblitt518]

@@PassionforSound I'm now into the fourth day of using the GT, and the sound quality seems consistently great now. However, the amp provides so much clarity and detail that (using my Meze Elite) there could sometimes be a bit of glare or extra brightness to female vocals. Switching from the Meze silver upgrade cable to the Meze copper upgrade cable fixed this nicely. Female vocals, violins, classical orchestra, now sound smoother without the slight edge that I perceived with the silver cable. With the Soloist 3XP, I had preferred the silver cable, but with the GT, the copper cable sounds better to me.

[@PassionforSound]

That's really interesting, Bobby. Thanks for sharing. I'm consistently enjoying my Leites with the silver cable from either the TT2 or Soloist GT as amp. I wonder if the different DACs and/or interconnects are altering the sound slightly? That's all I can imagine.

[@robertnoblitt518]

@@PassionforSound My DAC is a Qutest, connected to the GT with 0.5m high quality copper interconnects, that have always sounded neutral to me. There were times when I preferred the Meze copper upgrade cable with the Soloist 3X also. I think I often preferred the silver cable with the Soloist 3X, for enhanced detail and soundstage. With the GT, that enhancement is not needed, and the silver makes the sound too bright to me.

[@PassionforSound]

That all makes sense. I might try the Elites with my Aurealis litz cable again just to see what I hear...

[@edricpresbitero1545]

Is there any improvement in the bass and overall musical weight as a result of more power when comparing the GT to the XP? I noticed there is only mention of improved detail and soundstage.

[@PassionforSound]

Bass and musical weight don't equate to power, but the GT does maybe sound a bit more solid and authoritative because of its smoother character. I.e. that slight treble overemphasis from the 3XP is gone and therefore the bass has a stronger place in the mix.

[@kevin26exe]

Great review as always!

[@PassionforSound]

So glad you liked it!

[@kevin26exe]

@@PassionforSound keep up the good work, you are my most trusted reviewer. Will upgrade my soloist 3x :)

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Kenshin! So glad I'm providing value 🙂

[@kevin26exe]

@@PassionforSound BTW, any plan on reviewing the likes of lcd 4, zmf verite or the abyss 1266?

[@PassionforSound]

Definitely yes to the Verite and 1266 (not sure when). LCD-4 I'm not so sure...

[@MistaLova-Lova]

I've heard that the V7 Vivid op-amps fix that treble "issue" of the V6 in the Burson 3X. I'm wondering if that can then elevate the 3X's performance all the way to the top.

[@PassionforSound]

Not all the way to the top, but it's definitely an excellent upgrade. Circuit implements like dual mono channels in the GT range keep the Soloist GT and Voyager a step ahead still.

[@djhmax09]

Damn, if the gt sounds like it did at the start of the video when you turn it on, then it's totally worth getting! 😂 Thank you for the review! Btw, when you compared the gt against the regular soloist, were you using a supercharger (on the regular) while using stock on the gt?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi David, glad you liked the opening. Great question, too! Yes, the 3XP had the 3A Super Charger and the GT was the stock power supply

[@aceofspades6667]

@@PassionforSound in the forthcoming review on op amp rolling I’ll be interested in your comparisons of 3XP with 3GT. I found the Sparkos op amps really helped the treble of the XP and smoothed out the curve a bit there the vivids were a bit more v shaped.

[@djhmax09]

@@aceofspades6667 yeah, I'd be curious which opamps he rolled...

[@PassionforSound]

I agree about the Sparkos. For this review I kept everything stock, but I've got an op-amp rolling video coming soon with more details on what I find works well and where

[@djhmax09]

@@PassionforSound I see in the comments you were able to try some staccato opamps, nice! Did you find them hissing a lot when switching to med gain? Mine hissed a lot when placed on the input buffer but not at the volume stage.

[@AliArghavan]

Pleas consider reviewing the Playmate 2 which is very affordable and is such a good value with the DAC inside. Maybe compare it to Jotunheim+DAC or similar priced combos.

[@PassionforSound]

I'll have a chat to Burson once I clear some of my backlog.

[@TheSPazCORE]

Just bought the GT with the supercharger and finding it very fatiguing/bright/harsh for some reason? The headphones I have are: 1266 TC, TH900, HE6SE, Sennheiser HD600 and 660S. Currently listening with 660S because its bearable as its rolled off on both ends anyway. Wonder if it's my DAC or the Vivid op-amps maybe? My DAC is a Gustard X26 Pro..

[@PassionforSound]

It is likely the combination of your DAC and/or what you're coming from. The GT is a very neutral amp that doesn't warm or smooth anything. What were you using as your amp before?

[@TheSPazCORE]

@@PassionforSound The amp is brand new, so I will give it some time, but yes, might not be the best synergy perhaps. Previous amps were Liquid Platinum, Magnius, Bryston BHA-1, Topping A90. I kind of regret selling the BHA-1. There was nothing wrong with it other than its size and that I got the itch to try something else.. Looking to try a Yggradsil+ soon, that might be a better pairing with the Burson hopefully

[@PassionforSound]

What's the current DAC?

[@TheSPazCORE]

@Passion for Sound Gustard X26 Pro currently. Its quite a good sounding DAC, just fatiguing as hell with the Burson. Looking at Yggy+ soon. With the slimmer chassis it might actually fit on my desk set-up..

[@PassionforSound]

Oh, sorry - you actually said that above. I haven't tried the X26 so not sure if that's the cause. Hopefully you can find a solution. I'm surprised the Soloist GT would be any brighter/more neutral than the BHA-1 based on what I've read about the Bryston

[@urbenkam]

Cool intro. I think this would be a good to pair with he6se. I wonder how much of upgrade this is over singxer sa1. Ps I went to the burson website. I am little disappointed. Considering this is Australian company especially based in Melbourne, the currency is in us$. Is there an Australian based version of the website.

[@PassionforSound]

It a a huge step up from the SA-1. To put it in perspective, check my comparison of the SA-1 and Soloist 3XP in the SA-1 review and then the comparison between the 3XP and the GT in this review. I know what you mean about the Burson site. I think they unfortunately have a distribution arrangement with Addicted to Audio here in Australia that prevents direct sales.

[@urbenkam]

@@PassionforSound really good review. Hope you are feeling better. I can see the appeal of this. I wonder how does it compare with Pro iCAN Signature. Ps just trying amazon music hd which is now available. Comparing it with apple.

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't heard the Pro iCan yet. I'd like to at some point.

[@Gelfandvladi]

What level of headphones would you say justify going to the GT over the Soloist 3X? Also have you had a chance to review the Holo Dacs May/Spring 3?

[@PassionforSound]

The GT is a true flagship level amp so I'd pair it with flagship level headphones like Susvara, HE1k, Utopia, Elite, 1266, etc. It will maximise the performance of lower level headphones too, but I'd rarely suggest spending more on the amp than you spend on the headphones. I've just finished recording a review of the Spring and May. It'll come out soon...

[@Gelfandvladi]

@@PassionforSound I currently have a pair of Cleer Next running through Modius>>Asgard3 and a Bottlehead Crack with 6xx. I was considering the Mainline because it is supposedly very transparent and non-tuby and can also power low impedance headphones. After watching some of your reviews I started thinking about the Soloist 3X so wondering what you think about those 2 options as a do it all amp. There is a sale on the Soloist for 1050$ vs 1400$ for the Mainline, do you think going for the Mainline (i can put it together myself) worth the extra?

[@PassionforSound]

I think both are amazingly good amps. The Mainline is still the best tube headphone amp I've ever heard and it's incredibly versatile. I'm not sure it's definitively better than the Soloist, but they're definitely on the same kind of level, just different. I think it probably comes down to whether you want a little bit of tube magic in the sound (the Mainline is very clean and transparent, but just a touch smooth compared to the Soloist).

[@Gelfandvladi]

@@PassionforSound Pulled the trigger on a Soloist 3X yesterday for a price I couldn't resist with a supercharger and a stand. Do you think it will pair nicely with a Modius? (that's why I was asking about the Holo Spring 3) Also what is your experience with DDCs (Singxer SU1/2/6 or Pi2AES etc)

[@PassionforSound]

It will be great with the Modius - congratulations! I haven't played with many DDCs. I'm always wary of adding additional boxes to any signal path because each connection point can be a source of degradation. That's not too say DDCs are automatically bad, just that I can't comment with any extensive experience yet.

[@drandrewtan]

Just got the Conductor 3X GT. How far off is the amplifier compared to the Soloist?

[@PassionforSound]

It's hard to put a number to it, but I'd say it's 80-90% of the Soloist

[@drandrewtan]

@@PassionforSound Ah bugger. That’s a pretty significant difference.

[@PassionforSound]

Yep, definitely worth going for the Soloist GT if amplification is your priority (i.e. you don't need the DAC at all)

[@fatdoi003]

not sure if you can get your hands on some Violectric amps like V550 to compare as they're in similar price range as well

[@PassionforSound]

I'd love to, but it's a bit difficult with the Violectric gear

[@xyanide1986]

I'd say this has given burson a nudge more to the violectric side of the fun amp spectrum.

[@PassionforSound]

I don't know if I'd go quite that far. It's still very neutral, just smooth

[@gamingandmusic9217]

Hi sir, how do you compare 3x GT with A90D? is there a difference?

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, the difference is vast. The A90D is a decent amp, but that's about it. Moving to something like (in no particular order) a Soloist 3XP, Soloist 3X GT, HiFiMan Prelude, Geshelli Labs A3 Pro will all provide noticeable sonic improvements, particularly in terms of soundstage presentation, imaging and separation.

[@gamingandmusic9217]

@@PassionforSound Hi, I got a Burson soloist 3x Grand Tourer yesterday. I was blown away by its sound quality. When I had A90D, I thought I was having world's best headphone amp. But as you said the difference is vast. Soundstage is big. BASS is exceptional. Darkest background. Thank you. I can't explain more. It is an endgame Amp.

[@PassionforSound]

I'm so glad you feel that way! The Soloist GT is epic. Enjoy!

[@YTjuanchicod]

What do you think is the best soundstage and imaging neutral/analytical headphone amp?

[@PassionforSound]

Zähl HM-1

[@YTjuanchicod]

@@PassionforSound but one that doesn't cost 8k? Did you think that the A90D, SP400 or other sub 1000 dolars amp can significantes improve soundstage or "surround sound"? Maybe those are more dac things..

[@PassionforSound]

Both the DAC and the amp are equally important. Your system is only as good as its weakest link. The Geshelli Labs A3 Pro would be my recommendation for a sub-$1000 amp

[@ItsXev]

I purchased the Soloist GT. It’s important to say that this amp needs to be plugged directly into the wall and not a power strip or battery backup. This is because this amp is seriously power-hungry and you’ll get bad sound out of it if it’s not given full juice.

[@PassionforSound]

Interesting. That's not been my experience. It might depend on what else you're running on the same power strip though.

[@itsabodh]

I am running this amp on a 15amp power outlet in my garage. I cannot charge my tesla while listing to music

[@111olbap]

Impressed- except for the fan. That's a PC case 120mm fan by Noctua. Should have used the Noctua NF12A in my opinion which is quieter, has higher airflow at lower RPM, and has a vastly superior quality bearing and shaft assembly. Would have cost an additional $10 or so AUS dollars to implement this on the part of the manufacturer.

[@PassionforSound]

I wonder if you could swap it out yourself? If they're both regular PC sizes then it should work

[@111olbap]

@@PassionforSound Definitely both standard 120x25mm fans. You make a good point.

[@dobrinyordanov5506]

I run Abyss AB-1266 Phi TC with Soloist 3XP. To get the full dynamic range I need to listen to max volume at mid gain. Higher volume than this makes it not listenable for long hours. Only once I tried max volume at high gain and got terrible distortion - and for a moment I thought that I damaged my headphones. So how would I benefit from Soloist 3X GT in terms of more watts? More watts seem needless to me because I can't even utilize all the watts the Soloist 3XP provides...

[@PassionforSound]

It's not about the amount of power, Dobrin, it's about the quality of that power. There are lower quality amps that have more power than the Soloist 3XP but don't sound as good because it's all about how transparent and well controlled the sound is. The GT brings a significant step up in transparency and detail retrieval as well as improves tonal accuracy (compared to the 3XP with V6 Vivid op-amps)

[@dialecticalmonist3405]

@@PassionforSound Why can't they make an amp with all of those same quality attributes but also bring down the power to make it more affordable? Does something like that exist?

[@PassionforSound]

I'm yet to hear anything that performs quite as well as the GT. The Sparkos Labs Aries is the closest I've found with no fan, less power, but ALMOST as high quality sound. I need to try some other amps before I can say a definite yes/no to that question - sorry

[@erice5964]

Will they offer this in 1Owatts, Bluetooth, and the red accents/knobs?

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. You never know

[@Karim-ik5ij]

Does the unit get hot if you just use it as a speaker preamp?

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, it gets warm anytime it's switched on and regardless of the load.

[@mikemajors2385]

Would it be possible you could review any of the FLUX LABS products. I have the FA-22 and it is my new reference, replacing amps costing many times the price.

[@lextr3110]

compared to? how does it fare against GSX mini

[@PassionforSound]

I'll keep trying, but so far no luck on getting Flux Labs gear. I do have a GSX Mini lined up in the future though 🙂

[@mikemajors2385]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for trying, I`m hoping for a VOLOT review sometime in the future. I`d love it to be from YOU.

[@mikemajors2385]

@@lextr3110 Compared to the VOLOT the Mini is very mini.

[@shreddherring]

I think this new model could be a good reason to do an updated V6 vivid vs V6 classic video

[@PassionforSound]

In have something in the works already 🙂

[@Josh-os2px]

Bloom audio gave me a choice to not take the stand included for $2249 they deducted $150 off the final price minus the stand I pre-ordered for $2099.00 pretty sweet deal

[@PassionforSound]

Great deal. Congrats!

[@Josh-os2px]

@@PassionforSound thank you for that much needed timely review. Btw right now am using a CD transport and Spotify and KZbin music 🎵 and I don't do well with computers I don't own one is there a better way to stream high quality music am not familiar with music streamers nor do I want anything that requires a PC or laptop for setup. Can you recommend me a good streaming device I can connect with my phone and desktop DAC and just go.

[@PassionforSound]

It's not an area I've dabbled in much yet, Josh. There's the SMSL SD-9 I reviewed a little while ago, but it's a bit clunky. I've also just received a Volumio Primo and it might be a good option so maybe check that out. The review is quite a long way off because I need lots of time to tinker with a device like this. One thing to know is that you can setup and control the Volumio from a smartphone or tablet so no computer needed

[@robertreynolds2212]

How would these power a pair of Susvaras? Really tempted to purchase a pair & want to power them properly.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Robert, I touched on that in the video - it will power any headphone on the planet with ease. Susvaras run in medium gain at about 20/99 volume.

[@robertreynolds2212]

@@PassionforSound Just pre-ordered the amp on BloomAudio for 10% off/ including the stand & 5A supercharger. Now for the Susvaras 😈 Update: Just ordered a pair, can’t wait.

[@Josh-os2px]

@@robertreynolds2212 should have looked at the LCD-5 Resolve has a review video just uploaded he likes it better than the Sus and it's cheaper brand new also has a better resale value because it's more new.

[@robertreynolds2212]

@@Josh-os2px The pair I purchased is used. So only paid $4k for the Susvaras.

[@Josh-os2px]

@@robertreynolds2212 just seen Sus for $3599 on Head-fi but $4000 is about asking price on a used sus hope u enjoy 😁

[@dar._]

Thanks!

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure

[@grindfreakmike5754]

whats the main difference between the switching power supply thats a standard include with any of bursons products compared to the super charger 3a and 5a?

[@PassionforSound]

It's about operating frequency to push any noise outside the audible range. Check out my 3A Super Charger review for a more thorough explanation

[@grindfreakmike5754]

@@PassionforSound ok thanks. Thought it was like you said, just wanted to be sure.

[@delta9k]

An interesting amplifier, thanks for the review. I'd be curious to see a comparison with the Violectric HPA V550 with both being similar in price and balanced.

[@PassionforSound]

Yeah, I'd love to review some Violectric gear, but it's tricky to get my hands on

[@GMT2019]

@@PassionforSound I currently ordered a pair of Sony ier-z1r and is considered as a hard to drive items 40ohms , I am struggling between V550 pro and the soloist 3x GT , But I have heard that GT would have more noise level in sensitive iems and headphones , Do you think it would be a good match for ier-z1r , Denon D9200 24ohms And maybe beyer T1 3rd gen ? These 3 are quite sensitive I guess .. But I might plan to get higher end headphones later on like D8000 pro or Elite .. Some also says in forum that Soloist beat v550 pro and should compare to niimbus which is shocking for me , since niimbus is much higher price tag and should normally compare to v550 pro and Ferrum oor

[@PassionforSound]

The new, 2023 version GT is brilliant and will definitely work fine with all your items. The low gain mode is excellent for IEMs and shouldn't have audible noise. I'd definitely recommend it and have a review of the new version coming very soon

[@GMT2019]

@@PassionforSound yes , I saw the new upgraded version lowered the noise level down to 116db , thanks a lot , gonna pair a silver balanced XLR cable for both the denon and the ier-z1r , hope it works well !

[@PassionforSound]

Hope you love it!

[@johenkay1129]

What DAC have you been using to pair with the GT? Thanks.

[@PassionforSound]

I mostly used it with the TT2, but also with the Schiit Yggdrasil OG version and the Holo May KTE.

[@johenkay1129]

@@PassionforSound You have the Holo May KTE?!?!?!? What! When is that review coming out? Holy... from left field! How did you like it with the GT? Was it the best Dac of the three?

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. I thought that might spark some interest. No, it's not the best DAC of the three. Yes it's excellent with the GT (and in general) and the review is coming in December IIRC - I've got one other review to produce before the Holo review which will include the May KTE and Spring 3 KTE

[@johenkay1129]

​@@PassionforSound Wow, now you have to tell us which DAC you liked the most, haha. I have the KTE, and I think its line voltage out is too hot (5.8v xlr) for my current amp the gsx mini. Sounds harsh for the most part. I spoke with someone at Burson and they said that their GT had a max voltage input of 10V so there shouldn't be that problem.

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, no issues from the GT with the May KTE, but the output is definitely too hot in general. You'll have to wait for the review for the full story... 😉 Or you can join up as a patron and get early access to the review in a week or so 😉😉

[@DeadEyeBeaky]

Any ideas on this vs the Conductor 3x Reference? Effectively will I gain in any great way by buying the GT and a seperate dac vs the combined unit?

[@PassionforSound]

The GT is in a whole different league. The Conductor is on the same approximate performance level as the Soloist 3XP. The GT is a clear step above that so a separate DAC with the GT will definitely give you a better result.

[@DeadEyeBeaky]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for getting back to me! I'm new to the hifi world and your reviews are an invaluable resource. So I've basically decided on the GT as my amp. (Unless I sack off the decisions and go Chord Hugo TT2) Not sure whether to pair it with the RME ADI 2 or the Chord Qutest, or maybe the Burson Composer 3XP. The power of the dsp in the RME is swaying me, but I'm conscious you described the Chord as having superior overall sound. Do you think the quality of the GT's amplification would largely negate that dac quality differential? Or would the Composer have greater synergy... Its a minefield!

[@PassionforSound]

Definitely go for the Qutest if you can. As the step before the amp in your source chain, the DACs impact is vital to the performance of your amp. The ADI-2 or Composer will both sound great, but will greatly limit the sense of space your system can create. The Qutest will be next level on the GT compared to either of those other two.

[@DeadEyeBeaky]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for getting back to me, I really appreciate it. Well I shall do a little more research, but I think you've sold me. Being English myself, supporting quality British manufacturing feels the right thing to do.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad I could help!

[@johenkay1129]

Have you tried the amp with the Utopias? I'm on the fence between this and the Benchmark HPA4.

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't heard the HPA4, but knowing that it uses the THX technology is enough that I would immediately lean towards the GT. I don't know if I've tried the Utopias on it yet, but it's a perfect match with everything because it's not colouring the sound.

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Watch this space mate, "someone" might offer to loan an hpa4 and dac3 for review in the near future if Lachlan is interested...

[@PassionforSound]

That would be brilliant, Jim!

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

@@PassionforSound done. Will discuss with you in the coming weeks :-)

[@PassionforSound]

Awesome. It might need to be a bit later though given I already have some other goodies of yours and a queue that stretches into March already (maybe April actually)

[@mfgillia7606]

Looks like the pre-order sales discount on Burson's site is gone. ):

[@PassionforSound]

Don't worry, it will be back. I confirmed my release timing with Burson so I'm sure they'll reactivate the pre-order shortly make sure you're on their mailing list so they can inform you when it's live again (or check back later today / tomorrow)

[@TheBursonAudio]

@@bryang9601 Hi Bryan, please keep your eye out for our news letter email :)

[@JimTheCoffeeGuy]

Also....black friday isn't far off. Burson may do something again this year?

[@PassionforSound]

Interesting question. Given it's a brand new product, I'd be cautious about holding out for another discount on the GT come Black Friday, but I guess you never know.

[@jb678901]

I would hold off on taking a Schiit as I understand it will be introducing a new product line called "Grumpy". The first out of the gate would be the "Warm Grumpy".

[@PassionforSound]

Are you talking about the Schiit Gumby or am I missing the joke?

[@jb678901]

@@PassionforSound It was a flashback to the JD-AH trial. What Depp referred to as the "Grumpy".

[@PassionforSound]

Ah, I deliberately avoided that whole train wreck 🙂

[@robcoombes4549]

I like a lot about this, but looks very fiddly to switch between headphone output and pre-amp (compare to the Burson Funk with the dedicted button to switch between speaker and headphone out), and very fiddly to switch between inputs. Also, with only 4 buttons, why do they use one of them for changing orientation of the screen? Stuff that away in the menu system for the few times it will be used in the amp's lifetime, and dedicte that button for something used daily.....

[@PassionforSound]

I agree about the orientation button. The switching of inputs and outputs actually isn't too bad and would be completely fine if not for the touchy wheel

[@itsabodh]

You got it wrong.. this amp is designed to be passed on for reviews and reviewers may have their preference to place it vertical or horizontal so it is convenient they gave a dedicated switch for that. Reviewers don’t usually try different outputs that often.

[@PassionforSound]

I disagree, Abodh. Based on my own testing, reviewers are the most likely to be switching back and forth between inputs for testing and getting to understand the device. Also, the amp is designed for people who want to listen to music and I personally would have preferred a button for cycling inputs or outputs (not sure which I'd prefer) rather than the display orientation which could be inside the menu

[@trun1979]

Hey hey where can you find the stand?!

[@PassionforSound]

Burson sell the stand - it's called the Cool Stand

[@aceofspades6667]

Pre purchase price is back up and they are throwing in a supercharger for free as well. Quite the deal!

[@johenkay1129]

uh no its not.

[@PassionforSound]

Yeah, price isn't reduced, but 5A Super Charger is not included and worth more than the old discount so a good deal I think

[@johenkay1129]

@@PassionforSound if i order now for the 2500, the super charger will be shipped with it?

[@PassionforSound]

You'd need to confirm that with Burson, but that's how I understood it

[@mfgillia7606]

@@johenkay1129 You have to buy it before October 29th. They wil also throw in the cool stand for free.

[@jaybrodnax]

I bought it and it sounds great. but I get significant hiss even in low gain. Don’t know why you say dead quiet and black background.

[@jaybrodnax]

*with all headphones

[@PassionforSound]

That sounds like there is something wrong, Jay. I've had one or two headphones reveal some noise, but I'm pretty sure it's been when there has been power noise getting into the interconnects. Have you contacted Burson?

[@jaybrodnax]

@@PassionforSound thanks! I got shorter interconnects and rearranged, and the sound went down significantly

[@PassionforSound]

Phew! That's great news. I'd still say to reach out to Burson if it's not gone altogether because you should really have a silent background I think.

[@chefsteve8381]

Can you just unplug the fan for all the golden ears ?

[@PassionforSound]

No, the amp won't run without the fan being active because it would get too hot.

[@Josh-os2px]

Damn 2nd on the comments will my soloist 3xp be replaced by the GT ? Let's Go!!!!

[@BS1071M]

It’s interesting and a bit insulting to your critical viewers like myself when in one hand the 3XP is amazing, wonderful, wow, just excellent and THEN when given the step up product from Burson, all of a sudden there is a “treble sizzle, a little to much treble in the 3XP” - which one is it kind sir? - when folks have to spend their hard earned money, months of savings to buy a product they need and require absolute clarity in statements, - just sharing what others are too afraid to bring up - thank you

[@PassionforSound]

There's no such thing as the perfect product, Majid. The 3XP is an amazing amp and one that I have no intention of selling any time soon, but that doesn't mean it's perfect. In isolation, the Soloist 3XP is an amazing amp and better than anything else I've tried at the price. When you roll op-amps or compare to some more expensive gear though, you can hear where the minor imperfections lie. This is true for every product at every price level no matter how good it is - there will always be ways that each product could be improved, but those ideas are also subjective so what personal taste and system synergy are also important factors

[@nicktan4530]

How much difference between 3XP with Grand Tourer ?

[@PassionforSound]

It's a significant difference - maybe 10%? (I hate putting numbers to subjective things)

[@nicktan4530]

@@PassionforSound There is nothing wrong with because at the end of the its called subjective impression. But of course I understand the need to not mislead audience. 10% is not enough to justify but if we use something like LCD or Susvara, maybe that 10% goes to 50% ? Something like that ?

[@PassionforSound]

That's where the numbers are tricky. Once you reach a certain point, the amount of improvement decreases in relation to the money spent. What I know is that the GT is absolutely worth the extra, but only if you're running flagship level headphones. Anything from say an Arya, Focal Clear MG, Empyrean, etc. and above will show significant improvement, but I wouldn't recommend it as an upgrade for say the Sundaras, HD650, DT1990, etc. They're all great headphones, but you'd get a better gain by upgrading that level of headphone with the Soloist 3XP than going to the GT. Hopefully that clarifies things.

[@nicktan4530]

@@PassionforSound Yes diminishing returns and somewhat placebo effects, however hence, I mentioned if were to use something like LCD or Susvara, how much 'better' subjectively of the GT improve from the Soloist. I hope the Soloist + J2 would be a good combo. GT would make me go broke.

[@PassionforSound]

Stick with what you can afford and enjoy it, Nick. There's no point adding a GT with the J2 as the DAC. You're better off upgrading the J2 for your next purchase. Something like a Bifrost 2 would be a great upgrade.

[@olenronning5868]

Is this the best amp for the Susvara?

[@PassionforSound]

I'd say it's definitely one of the best. I know lots of people go for speaker amps, but then you've got to be so careful with volume or risk destroying your headphones and/or ears. I'd stick to the Soloist GT myself. 🙂

[@olenronning5868]

@@PassionforSound Thanks. I'm also considering the Ferrum OOR or the Hugo TT2 with XLR adapters (?) which would save the complexity of then finding a top-tier DAC to mate up to the amp.

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't tried the Oor so can't provide input on that one

[@forestgrey2777]

what about replace 6 vivid with 6 sparkos 2590dual on 3gt

[@PassionforSound]

You could potentially do that, but given the GT already outperforms the Sparkos Aries, I wouldn't expect improvements and honestly, the GT is pretty much perfect so why change anything?

[@forestgrey2777]

@@PassionforSound many people replaced v6 with 3602 on soloist 3x and clam hearing improvement

[@forestgrey2777]

@@PassionforSound btw ferrum oor amp is very transparent as well

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, the 3602 can improve the Soloist (although I don't agree with changing all four V6 op-amps). That said, the GT is a different amp and different op-amps will suit different circuits and even different systems so there's no guarantee it will be an improvement. My sense from my comparison of the Aries and Soloist GT is that the GT is likely best left alone.

[@andyleiva8638]

Hi, do you know if this Burson can move the Hifiman Arya Stealth in low gain with authority? (with an input of 2V from the dac)? And if is noisy in high gain with the Arya Stealth? I'm asking because the new Conductor 3X GT just have two levels of gain, and the Burson Conductor 3XR / Soloist3XP are noisy with very sensitive headphones if you use high gain, like Beyerdynamic T5.

[@PassionforSound]

You should generally match the gain and the headphone so I'd be using the gain that has your comfortable listening level at around 30-60% of max volume (tending lower if there is more than one mode available). The GT has plenty of power for use in low gain and should cause no issues with noise

[@rossfletcher2724]

Given that it has a substantial price tag, it's hard to understand why Burson have chosen to install such an unfriendly control knob mechanism. I can imagine for those who like to change parameters often , it would be a huge turnoff. You have to wonder why such an insane amount of unnecessary power. Less power, less heat and perhaps fewer dollars? But lesser performance? Perhaps we should ask Burson

[@mfgillia7606]

Likely because many complained about the prior knob and wanted a way to increase volume much quicker with less skipping. Check out Zeos video review of the Soloist for more details.

[@PassionforSound]

It sounds like they introduced the notchless wheel after people complained and then, based on my conversation with them, they struggled to perfect the wheel due to COVID and lockdowns making things difficult

[@mfgillia7606]

@@PassionforSound Hopefully they can improve upon it with firmware updates slowing down the volume dial sensitivity once the menu is activated.

[@rossfletcher2724]

Lachlan, from your comments it appears they have a worse problem than the one of the notched control taking too much effort to go from 0 to 100. leaving the knob as a volume control alone and moving the menu selection function elsewhere seems the most sensible

[@PassionforSound]

That's a good idea, Ross. That's where the Aries is so good with its touch screen!

[@TheSPazCORE]

Anyone know how this stacks up to the Violetric V550?

[@PassionforSound]

I'm yet to try any current Violectric models so I can't help - sorry! Hopefully some others will.

[@TheSPazCORE]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for the great review. From what I've heard the Violetric is more 'neutral' but with some warmth and richness and the Burson is leaner and brighter but more 'fun' (assuming better dynamics/slam etc.)

[@PassionforSound]

Sounds maybe like the GT vs the Sparkos Aries.

[@kyron42]

0:02 the fan is sounding really loud 😆

[@PassionforSound]

🤣

[@sentientsteve9351]

My Soloist 3XP also has has the smooth volume dial with no notches and jumps easy doing the settings. Bought it 2 months ago so looks like they've gone to smooth for some reason. I do like though that I can spin the dial easily for larger volume changes, usually spin it down to change headphones then spin it back up again. It's not loose enough to spin by itself though, more I put my finger loosely on it and just roll it in circles.

[@PassionforSound]

Interesting, that must have been a change based on feedback from people who didn't like the notchy wheel. They've both got pros and cons

[@aceofspades6667]

My 3XP has a notchy wheel which works great. My only issue with the 3XP is the remote performance at say 7-8 feet away. I have to click several times for volume control to work. Yes I’ve chanced the batteries as well. I found this to be an issue with conductor 3XP as well. Either way a very minor quibble

[@PassionforSound]

That's a shame about the volume range and probably a fair concern for anyone using the device as a pre-amp

[@burg856]

I might be better off with the Chord Hugo TT2. Same money buying this amp and getting a new good DAC to replace my old Wadia 2000 DAC. Almost clicked one more time and bought the Denafrips Pontus II. Hummm

[@PassionforSound]

If you're planning on buying a great DAC too then yes, I'd go straight for the TT2. It's not quite as smooth as the GT, but amazingly revealing (and not harsh)

[@burg856]

@@PassionforSound I picked up a used Chord Hugo TT 2. Question, if you have any trouble with a Chord, where would you send for repair a look over for resale?

[@PassionforSound]

Are you in Australia or overseas? The local distributor is normally a good starting point. If you're in Australia, that's Radiance AV. Elsewhere, I don't know.

[@burg856]

@@PassionforSound No, I am in the state of Illinois in the US. I forgot your on the other side of the pond. lol I would just have to email Chord and ask them.

[@PassionforSound]

I thought that was the case 🙂 Yes, I'm sure Chord or a local retailer can help you out.

[@lextr3110]

wow a fan in an headphone amp ... common.. cant we mod this out?

[@PassionforSound]

No, the amp would overheat because of the specialised power supply they're using. I explained pretty clearly in the video why the fan isn't an issue. Maybe take a look if you haven't already.

[@lextr3110]

@@PassionforSound than they should have an external power supply with a long extension cord to hide it far away haha. Or they could have a 140mm nexus installed with low rpm.. mostly silent.. anyway at any prices, even small fan noise is unacceptable. They could offer less powerful smaller cheaper fanless dual mono version at least..

[@PassionforSound]

The heat is generated by the internal power management, not the main power supply which is external. If you don't like it, that's fine. To me, the fan noise is VERY quiet and inaudible when listening to music. Every designer makes decisions with their own logic and reasoning so trying to redesign an amp without understanding the rationales for their design choices isn't overly productive. There are lots of other excellent amps on the market that are silent (like the Sparkos Labs Aries) so that choice is available

[@st0neageman]

I was both excited and dreadful of this review... please don't make me upgrade...

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. Sorry!

[@wesleyleigh4063]

You should have blind tested this against cheaper amps, like entry level cheap and any others in between before you used it to see both whether you could tell them apart and which one you preferred. But of course you didn't do that because this glorified slightly enhanced volume knob is definitely all it's cracked up to be and you haven't almost certainly drank the coolaid.

[@jasonpash]

He could already clearly describe differences with Soloist 3X, what’s the point of comparing a 2500usd amp vs a cheap one? Who does that? Wrong channel, you probably would enjoy Zeos’ reviews instead. Would love for you to upload a vid show him exactly how you’d do it. Good luck!

[@PassionforSound]

Wesley, this idea that all amps sound the same is completely ridiculous. EVERY component in an amplifier has influence over its sound whether it's a capacitor, resistor, transistor, volume control, etc. The idea that two devices made of different components (regardless of price) will sound the same just shows that people really haven't taken the time to understand how amps are made and how the individual parts work (e.g. varying tolerances at different frequencies, slew rates, etc.)

[@wesleyleigh4063]

@@jasonpash No of course bc who needs empiricism and objectivity when you can have fantasy? My point isn't that there isn't a difference but that it's morally dubious to plug absurdly price items that do close to nothing - how was that not obvious?? You sound awfully defensive. Also Zeos isn't perfect either, noone is or ever will be, but Imagine this guy in his place? We'd be approaching cult status.

[@wesleyleigh4063]

@@PassionforSound Yes but is the difference audible when you don't know what you're listening to, and to an extent that you care? You like everyone partake in this hobby because it brings you joy to hear something you like. You might at times wish to strip back what you consider a particular bias or taste of yours for objectivities sake, but wouldn't you care to know yourself what actually, veritably interests you, not just what you think does? Humans are very susceptible to suggestion, and people in this community aren't willing to blind test simply because it has them relinquish their most cherished ability. I'm not saying the circuitry isn't different and that we humans react to the impact of some more than others, this is cornerstone to the modern importance of Neve preamps and the famed LA2A compressor, both of which have elaborate circuitry. but the community deserves extensive, standardised blind testing.

[@PassionforSound]

I've been doing this for 15+ years now (reviewing gear) and there are times where the differences are minimal or non-existent, but it's never with amps. DACs are MUCH more sonically similar and I call that out when I hear it. There is no need at all to compare amps blind because the differences between many of them are large and go way beyond the potential impact of biases.

[@pfcompany885]

Working fan is not good for audio. It generates electric noise! And its a source of dust!

[@aceofspades6667]

He literally addresses both topics in the review.

[@PassionforSound]

As Ace said, the fan really isn't an issue and the amp performs better than other equivalent and more expensive products.

[@Josh-os2px]

The 5 dislikes are from Topping fan boys 🤣😂

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. Maybe...

[@jaybrodnax]

Thanks!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks so much, Jay!