Pastor Clarence Sexton Attacks The Recovering Fundamentalists, Beards, and Tattoos!

[@TheChurchSplit]

Sorry for the audio level issues - his clip is super quiet. Also, I was too close to the mic and didn’t realize it. Enjoy anyway 😂 Also, if you dislike this video, you’re a “God hater” 😏😉

[@savedbyGrace1234]

I’m bitter against the IFB - I was severely abused physically- emotionally - psychology and spiritually by those people- I’m 57 and still suffer from the trauma of it all

[@patrickgallardo5998]

I moved to Tennessee 21 yrs ago. Pastor Sexton was my pastor from day one till the day he died. I am grateful for his shepherding and love he showed my family. Raised Catholic saved in Calvary Chapel church. I have seen all are flawed christians on my Born Again journey. I have seen the fruit at Temple regardless of flawed christians. I don't see the point of publicly criticizing another brother. Word says go talk to the brother in error in person. Paraphrasing but the world loves this division. Pastor Sexton is with the Lord now and I will miss him. Sexton was not the foundation of TBC, Christ is but he planted some good seed with much fruit bearing and many harvest's in the future. Pastor would always be the first to admit his flaws proffesing his faults . Humble man and he set a high bar.

[@RidgeReaper68]

Amen brother!!

[@KingsBishopChess]

The whole beard thing is quite ironic since that group tends to hype about distinction of male and female when it comes to dress code, and yet the very thing that God gave us with which to be outwardly distinct is condemned by that crowd.

[@jonslagill8864]

He's said some questionable things in the past few years. The church sings the very same songs now as they did 25 years ago--the same 20 hymns. I did work for him 24 years ago and grew a lot while there but I was exposed to a lot of different churches before that. I attended PCC and LBC. I don't get the hymns only and the no screen thing.

[@oshea2300]

How come most of the people like you and Eric suarzinski are backsliding and renouncing christianity?

[@TheChurchSplit]

You must be late to the party: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r6K4gpKQibyYn7M

[@TheChurchSplit]

Pssst. (If you click the link you’ll find we rebuke Eric for renouncing the faith. We haven’t ever renounced the faith.)

[@sguinn91]

I grew up in a IFB church all the way til my teenage years and I can relate on every level. Even when I became a Christian, nothing changed for me. At the time, it was to save my soul to Heaven, not once did they ever talk about Grace, forgiveness and having a relationship with Jesus! I was really confused! As someone who was born with Cerebral Palsy and diagnosed with autism, they were stupid enough to say that my.disability was a weakness, not a strength! Eventually, we left because of other stupid reasons!

[@sguinn91]

I want to thank you for showing the light of Jesus and exposing the stupidity of people in the church like this guy calling people stupid! God is still good!

[@KudosFeldham]

1. Sexton's church DEFINITELY talks about "grace, forgiveness, having a relationship with Jesus". 2. If you're only talking about your original home church, then that was NOT a true IFB church.

[@gregb6469]

Perhaps those fundamentalists who call former frundamentalists God-haters do so because they have unconsciously deified themselves, or, like the Watchtower, have decided that God works today only through themsleves, so that anyone who isn't with them is against God.

[@TheChurchSplit]

Actually it’s very similar to that and the JW.

[@KingsBishopChess]

Hey brother, I appreciate you and I'm not against you. However I have to ask, when you say, “Most evangelists preach the same few messages at every church." What is your source for that claim? (I know it has nothing to do with this topic, but as the object of ifb abuse on more than 100 occasions, I can tell you that that's the type of thing they would focus on).

[@TheChurchSplit]

Well in the IFB that stat is true (maybe not evangelists as a whole). But I know that mostly through experience of being a church where evangelists would come around and their messages year over year wouldn’t change

[@AnneBlythe1986]

May i have the link to Clarence Sexton's video here that you referenced in video? Thank you for presenting this critique of Clarence Sexton's theology!

[@TheChurchSplit]

This was a while ago and I no longer have the link on hand. Apologies, but you're welcome for the critique. Since he has recently passed away I almost feel wrong about leaving this video up, but also this was his legacy. This is what he left behind for those he disagreed.

[@sharonmiller7545]

I've sat in services where the preacher would talk about members or ex members of the church like a ragged dirty dog. Favoritism running rampant especially those who tithe very well... Look down on those who can barely afford a dress and shoes.... Ladies if you don't show up in the proper modest dress then you can't be involved in the church. Oh, the hypocrisy of how women were to dress!!! I was told to wear my dress/skirt no shorter than where my shins were... The tops/blouses were to be buttoned all the way up... Makeup could be worn but not extreme... Like red lipstick 💄 I abided by "their rules" Many ladies do, even the teen girls! However my cousin had a dress that had a split in the skirt that shown a little of her shins.... They (powers that be) told her that she couldn't get up on the platform to sing with that outfit on. However, it was okay, apparently, the same high prominant lady in the church can sit at the piano in her skirt that raises up above her knees and shows everybody what she has?🙄 Hypocrisy at its best...

[@sharonmiller7545]

And you can't question the "powers that be" in the church or it's either "she's not really saved" or "backsliding" or "not right with God"

[@PatriotAmerican55]

This Sexton man is some what of a false profit. Oops, I meant prophet.....

[@RidgeReaper68]

Did you have those tattoos before or after your stint at Crown College? Where are those ppl now that Pastor Sexton is referring to?

[@TheChurchSplit]

I had one of my three tattoos while at Crown. The people Sexton was referring to are broad. It’s a whole group of people who call themselves “recovering fundamentalists” so it’s not monolithic. Most in the group are pastors and teachers still in their own respective churches. Only the latter question of yours seems pertinent to the point here. Sexton was known to create toxic work environments and treat his people poorly and those who disagreed with him even more so. Look up also their rule book. Especially their parts specifically about race.

[@RidgeReaper68]

@TheChurchSplit tattoos are a representation of rebellion. If you're gonna say it only mentions it in Leviticus, isn't once mentioned in the bible enough? If you believe it to be God's word.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@RidgeReaper68 They're also a sign of art, expression, etc. Luckily this video isn't about debating the issue as we have a video on that topic itself. This is classic shifting of the goalpost. However, let's say you're right, treating people poorly or "less than" who have permanent marks on their body probably isn't a solid move.

[@RidgeReaper68]

@@TheChurchSplit I hear what you're saying about the Pastor, remember he is human just like you. Prone to make mistakes, prone to follow the flesh. What is it God demands? Obedience! Rebellion is as witchcraft. 1 Samuel 15:23

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@RidgeReaper68 again mine aren’t rebellious. If you’re throwing Leviticus around I’m not sure you really want to be doing that unless you observe the Torah. The pastor I’ve known and been under. He calls those whom he simply disagrees with in practice (not doctrine) God haters. He did this sort of thing flippantly. He also was known to be abusive to his people and create toxic environments, bully students etc. I actually know what I’m talking about here. Perhaps you should stop with the red herring and consider that I might actually have a proper point here.

[@rebekahrutt5491]

It’s interesting how many people use the term “ god-haters” to attract people who don’t fall into line with their beliefs.

[@rebekahrutt5491]

“Attack” not “attract”

[@ReigningWomban]

It’s really amazing how people try to stop others from expressing their love and the message of Jesus Christ.

[@ronn4238]

Is it just me, or does anyone else think that couple in his story is completely made up?

[@lloydtucker5647]

YES! In fact I think it's a common and often used method to influence how church members view him.

[@bodester17]

It's like one of those internet stories where the kid says something really woke to mom in the check out line at Wal-Mart and then everyone cheers.... I thought exactly the same!

[@ronn4238]

@@eileenh1 good point. But we all agree it was jerk move either way.

[@customstoryteller]

Everywhere I read in the Bible where men had their beards shaved it was a shame to them. 🤷‍♂️

[@annalewis3949]

This is heartbreaking. I went there and I met good people but was miserable. Felt scared and depressed. And I was raised very strict and it still affects me some days because i struggle with whether it’s wrong or a preference. So sad

[@Deuteronomy649]

My daughters go to the other Crown College in St Bonifacius, MN. Also a Christian college but very different in theology, style, and practice. We’re CMA and so have only known Crown in MN which is a CMA affiliated school. When my girls said they were going to be going to Crown, we had a couple of friends from different circles who expressed real concern with how legalistic the school was - KJV, dresses only, etc. My husband and I were like, “What!? I mean Crown is evangelical so there are some typical evangelical expectations/rules, but it’s pretty far from legalistic.” So one of our friends started to read to us from the “The Crown College” handbook and as I looked closer I saw that it wasn’t “Crown College” in St Boni, but “The Crown College of the Bible” in TN. I wish Crown in St. Boni would just change their name. I hate that people think we would send our girls to the Crown in TN.

[@PooleSilly]

I am grateful to say that I am a born again Christian and have been since I was 19.......yes indeed i enjoy listening to this dear man of God Pastor Clarence Sexton and he’s absolutely a man of God 100%! I much pray God's peace and comfort on him and his family each and everyday and that God uses him and his ministry mightily to much glorify and lift high the king of kings and the lord of lords!!!!!! to God Be All The Glory!!!!! Great Things He Hath Done!!!!!! and all hail king Jesus!!!!! the king of kings and the lord of lords!!!!!! however folks these days are getting darker and Christ is coming soon and if you don’t know Christ as your savior then it burdens my soul to think that you are headed for a terrible place called Hell where the Bible says the fire is never quenched and the worm dies not! Folks you are not promised tomorrow! If you want to know how to be saved from this horrible reality then please by all means don’t hesitate to comment right back so I can lead you to the savior! 2 Corinthians 6:2 clearly states “now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation!” And Hebrews 3:15 clearly states, “Today if you hear his voice don’t harden your hearts! it is not me but the Holy Spirit that I pray reveals to you the truth of his precious gospel......John 3:16 says for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes on him will not perish but have everlasting life! V 17 says then V 18 says whoever believes on the son is not condemned but whoever does not believe on the son is condemned already because he has not believed on the son whom God has sent! Also Acts 16:30-31 what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house I am not threatening anyone but just warning them what will happen if they reject this precious gift of eternal life! Christ died a horrible criminals death! He was beaten brutally mocked spit upon and endured countless hours of torture pain for all of our sins! Ppl go to hell because they reject that pardon for their sins! And Jesus is saying to them in Matthew 25:41 depart from me you cursed into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels! Hell was only prepared for Satan and his angels! It is not God who threatens anyone it is the craziness of rejecting the free pardon of salvation! It’s like if you’re in court you’ve committed a crime say you murdered someone! Now if you say to that Judge hey I know I’ve done a terrible thing of murdering that person but I hear you’re a good judge and so I know you’ll be fair to me...... the judge is going to reply well yes you’re right about one thing I am a good judge and because I’m a good judge I’m going to see to it that you’re punished and that justice is served! Well then all of a sudden someone you don’t even know comes forward and says you know what I know he’s committed the crime he’s committed and he deserves to go to jail but I really don’t want to see him go to prison so I’ll just go to prison for him so he can go free! So if you accepted that offer you’d be free to leave the courtroom but if you didn’t well you’d be crazy and go to prison yourself! Well that’s exactly how it was 2,000 years ago! He is God in human flesh and he came to this earth lived a perfect sinless life and even though he knew that we had sinned and because of our sins deserved to die miserably but he said no I don’t want to see them suffer so I will go and take their punishment for them! Even though he did absolutely nothing wrong still he chose to take the punishment for our sins so we can be set free from the power bondages and consequences of our disobedience to God! Romans 5:8 says For God commends his love toward us that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us! 1 John 2:2 says he was made to be the propitiation for our sins! And not just for our sins but the sins of the whole world! 2 Corinthians 5:21 He who knew no sin became Sin for us that we would be made his righteousness! The truth is if you had to get to Heaven by your own effort then you cannot do it! Because Romans 3:10 says there is not one that does good! No Not One! Romans 3:23 says For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God! Romans 6:23 says For the wages of sin is death! But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord! But the good news is Romans 10:9 If we confess with our mouth and believes in our hearts that Christ died for our sins then was raised from the dead we will be saved! V 10 For it’s with the heart we believe and it’s with the mouth confession is made unto salvation! God gave us 10 commandments to follow and we’ve broken every one of them! And because God is a good God he cannot allow our disobedience to him to go unpunished! Well then like I just mentioned above his son Jesus stepped forward and said no I don’t want to see them punished so I will take their punishment for them! And also like I said he died a terrible substitute criminal’s death for us on a cross so now all we have to do is accept that payment for our sins and we can escape the terrible wrath of God that is to fall on them who do not accept this atonement that was sacrificed for our sins! Praise the lord Romans 10:13 says Whoever calls on the name of the lord shall be saved! And 1 Peter 1:4 you’re an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you! Christ clearly said in John 14:6 I am the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the father but through me! Acts 4:12 clearly states that there is no other name given unto Heaven or earth by which we must be saved as there is salvation in no other! Jesus clearly states that there is clearly only one way to Salvation and it’s him that’s it! There is no other way! God Bless everyone who reads!

[@jdkayak7868]

Your absolutely right except that your pastor is a pope if he's not accountable to anyone. There is no such title as "man of God" in scripture. How do you make sure your church isn't full of abusers like most ifb churches in particular those associated with Hyles?

[@Y1bambe2019]

So basically your entire argument is that people who don’t agree with Clarence sexton are going to hell?! 😂😂😂 I’d say that’s very judgmental but that would be an understatement.

[@pcccourt]

I’d hate to tell you but sexton wouldn’t have allowed you in the door of his church because you don’t use the kjv strictly. So…

[@dougvanmeter1137]

I'm not IFB, but this 'expose' is really poor. The presenter seems to grinding an axe while claiming he is not bitter.

[@TheChurchSplit]

Having an axe to grind against wrongful statements and lies is not the same as being bitter. Calling a group of people God haters because they disagree with you deserves every bit of condemnation it gets.

[@piano_pixie076]

“They sing the same songs”...... I went to crown 12 years ago and their choir still sings the same songs 🤦🏻‍♀️. I went to crown and basically learned nothing. God has grown me so much under expository preaching, reading amazing books (not crown approved), and listening to the RFP network. I may not agree with everyone on the network but it makes me think and evaluate my position, sometimes I have to change my opinion cuz it doesn’t line up with scripture, and other times I have the scripture to back up my belief. Keep up the good work.

[@moxiefluffenutter]

My wife and I went to Crown 20 years ago now, and we would say the same (we lived there for 8 years). We learned a few good things there, but nothing compared to doing the work of the ministry. Anymore, it seems like we learned what not to do/how not to be. Looking back at Crown/Temple now, all we see is politics, hypocrisy, covetousness, and a desire for control over individuals. Of course, all of that is just of the flesh. I have run into that personally in dealing with Mr. Sexton too. God has grown us very much under expository preaching too. In particular, learning to preach that way has helped me immensely. We do not listen to the RFP folks, because they are involved in unbiblical things themselves, and often have the mocking, ungodly attitude that the IFBers put forth. But, I agree, they have put forth a few things that make you think.

[@mortsey]

Bitter old man who sees hundreds of his alumni of his college not following his preferences. Time to retire...

[@BeardedGuy96]

He must not know that Jesus had a beard. Isaiah 50:6 says they plucked the hair of his cheeks. Some IFBers need to read there bibles. My podcast Cherishing Scripture Podcast did a whole thing on issues like these. We are over the legalism of the IFB.

[@KudosFeldham]

You speak without full knowledge. Pastor was not against beards. The college had rules for married/older men vs. younger men regarding beards for good reason. That is all. The youngest men wouldn't keep them up well, so rules had to be set in place. Let all things be done decently and in order. Rules do not mean cruelty or lack of love. He cared about the students so deeply, but those who scorn scorn bc of their own rebellion and own desires simply bc they wanted to do THEIR own thing. Then DON'T go to the college. Period.

[@EveTrexler87]

In his defense over the singing the same songs thing...He didn't say anything about them singing new songs would make them more Christian or more spiritual. He just said they wouldn't grow and musically he's kinda right.Its definitely right that it's better to practice and try new things to grow.

[@TheChurchSplit]

True. But he is equating it in the same breath.

[@pauldaviddulz501]

Pastor Clarence Sexton passed away this past week. I was raised Southern Baptist and joined the IFB movement after my tour in the Marine Corps. I attended Pastor Sexton's Church for sixteen years. A yearly message that he preached was on Prov 14:4 "Where no oxen are, the crib is clean: but much increase is by the strength of the ox." Of course he used this verse in the context of the church being the oxen, yet the same principle holds true for pastors as well. This video points out a lot of dirty spots in the crib but never takes a moment to focus on the benefit of the ox. Just beware that what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged.

[@TheChurchSplit]

You shall be known by your fruits. He has screamed at people for making a meal he didn’t like in the cafeteria, it wasn’t what HE wanted so he made the entire kitchen redo all their work. The kitchen manager is a former student and works 14-16 hours regularly and Sexton disrespected them that much. This is normal for him. I have plenty of stories and have witness many things. I’m fine with pointing out poor behavior of false elitist teachers who treat the least of these as disposable servants for his own selfish gratification.

[@pauldaviddulz501]

@@TheChurchSplit And now he's with the Lord awaiting the review of his life at the Bema seat. There no more reason to give the lost grounds to dismiss his message. We all struggle with the flesh.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@pauldaviddulz501 but according to Sexton’s own words - “everything rises and falls on leadership”

[@pauldaviddulz501]

@@TheChurchSplit You're absolutely right. Much has risen under his leadership. I've been on the receiving end of an abusive pastoral relationship that was far worse than the worst of pastor Sexton. I chose to let it build me not break me. I'm reminded of Romans 14:4. Do you not trust God to bring him enough regret on the day of judgement? By parading his faults you reveal your bitterness and by not keeping it private you bring reproach, not against Pastor Sexton, but against the Lord.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@pauldaviddulz501 I’m not bitter. I also didn’t let it break me either. I’m in ministry. I’m serving. Equipping. Giving the gospel. I don’t call him a God hater. I call him blinded by his own pride. I’ve confronted this nonsense directly and forwardly. You also gonna tell Paul that he was out of line to rebuke Peter? Also, yes, I’ve been under worse pastor leadership. I’ve had to get the law involved before. However, Christianity is true. I will fight for the kingdom but that means we also have to do better. We have to repent and turn to Christ. This means we have to call out wrong behavior and sadly many Reformed and fundamentalist pastors say the most absurd stuff that deserves to be called out.

[@mitchymitch1231]

The hesitancy of the guy in the background to say "recovering fundamentalists" when Sexton asked. Almost like he has heard Sexton's opinion on them before and knew what he was about to say. His eyes and actions seemed to indicate he wanted to be anywhere but there or at least for Sexton to talk about anything but the recovering fundamentalists.

[@TheChurchSplit]

I think that’s Zinker there, but not sure.

[@jenniferward5300]

100% James Zenker and his lack of eye contact is very telling

[@357trent]

@@jenniferward5300LOL sounds like a bitter bunch of trendies here on this thread. #Hateuscuztheyaintus

[@moxiefluffenutter]

As a person that went to Crown/Temple from 2000-2008, I agree with much of your synopsis on this. Much of what you said that Crown/Temple is all about is true. My wife and I do not promote/fellowship with them either. In fact, I have many critical things to say about that work from my own experience. However, as a pastor/Christian, I disagree with the RFP. The warning aspect of this group is generally good, but I can point out many times when they have lowered themselves to mocking. They tend to be a very proud, arrogant group, just like the IFB (and I have quite a few experiences with both sides). Raising yourself up to promote your own walk with Christ is unnecessary too, and just seems prideful. "I spend much of my time debating, evangelizing, thinking about God, reading the Bible..." You actually spend several minutes, throughout the whole video, bragging about yourself & the people of the RFP. You also lowered yourself by calling the things that Sexton said "stupid" & "idiotic," while disparaging him for saying that certain people were too. In fact, you used the word "stupid" & "crap" many, many times. Those things do not need to be said, and do not become a Spirit-filled individual. Furthermore (and I am just commenting as you remark), no, beards are not sinful. Yes, tattoos are, and I believe that can be proven from Scripture: they are immodest (drawing undue attention to an area of the body), expensive (a waste of money), and a reflection of the world's ways. No, the command is not there, but the principles are. Take that for what you will. Also, you all seems to be very proud of the fact that you debate. Debating is generally of the flesh. It has never changed a mind, or won someone over to the Lord. Debating is actually condemned in Scripture as useless, ungodly, and pointless. Now, having conversations with interested, inquiring individuals is something completely different. We are to engage the interested, preach authoritatively to the uninterested (though without harassing/stalking them), and focus on those that will follow Christ. Scripture is very clear on that. To debate and then walk away with the attitude of, "Well, I showed them," is ungodly & of the flesh. Lastly, encouraging people to try out the "hipster churches" is not godly. The local church is not about primarily fellowship, but education. It is about teaching individuals to follow Christ according to His Word. Only through studying to apply the Word do we grow in grace. Yes, we edify one another, as we learn to follow Christ together, but the focus is not to be the social scene (as many, many churches are about today), nor is it to be entertainment or emotionalism. Much is said & done in such churches that claim the name of Christ, but He is far from them, because they reject His Word in practice. Is Clarence Sexton out of line here? Yes, there is no excuse for it. He should retire, and should have retired long ago. He is arrogant, slanderous, and ungodly. However, are you blameless here? No, there is no excuse for your arrogant, worldly attitude. You need to repent, and your pastor should deal with that (whoever he is).

[@TheChurchSplit]

Oh you’ve no idea what you just stepped in...full response coming when we get a moment

[@moxiefluffenutter]

@@TheChurchSplit See, that attitude just confirms my statements. I am not interested in arguing with you. Sorry. There is nothing to argue about. Praying for you all. Have a good day.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@moxiefluffenutter Oh no. You don't get to throw shade and then walk away attempting to claim the spiritual/moral high ground. That's just a cowardly way out. So let's break it down. Glad you agree on my synopsis, but the rest of what you say is far out of skew. RFP - these guys are good guys, and you might not like all their comments, but keep in mind, mockery is a thing even Saul/Yeshua engaged in once it was necessary. Which it usually becomes necessary when someone resorts to character attacks rather than addressing your arguments - which is all the IFB can throw out at them/us. Some people can be proud/arrogant, but I've noticed this is often a charge leveled at people who speak with confidence against something, and instead of engaging in the argument/discussion, they just resort to calling someone prideful. It's an ad hominem to avoid the burden of proof. I am NOT promoting myself nor how "awesome I am" - this is another baseless attack. I could just as easily say your comment here is "promoting yourself". If you took it as such then you missed the entire point I was making there. We were accused of being God haters. Meaning my life, heart, and actions were brought into question - thus the easiest way to debunk such an absurd claim is to show how emphatically wrong they are. Like when I'm called a "racist" and I show that my wife is Korean. I'ts not that I'm pumping myself up, it's that I'm pointing to the fastest and easiest evidence to the contrary. Also, yes, using the adjective of "stupid/idiotic" is descriptive of the accusations and the unbiblical standards. One must first prove that describing such faulty logic and sinful actions as such is wrong- and you can't. If I said the earth was shaped as a donut, that'd be idiotic/stupid by definition. Aren't you also guilty of doing the same thing currently? You're just saying it in a more PC kind of way. In the end, your very comment is in contradiction to itself. Plenty of instances in scripture where "stupid" is used to describe "dumb actions." Keep in mind I didn't say "HE" was stupid, but the accusation is a stupid/idiotic one. The command about tattoos aren't there? Then you pull from obscure things to claim that it *is*? God is clear on what is and is not a sin. Immodest: No. A tattoo isn't to bring undue attention. Maybe some people have that motivation? But one could just as easily say that a colorful shirt, nice earrings, or nice shoes brings undue attention. The point is the heart and motivation. This logic is faulty and cannot be applied consistently. Expensive: So because something is expensive it's sinful? Where in scripture does it say we cannot purchase expensive services? I distinctly remember seeing passages that'd point quite to the contrary. Reflection of the world: Define "world"? Do you mean culture? Because that's not the biblical definition, plus one cannot actually divorce himself from the culture that he knows. The bible's definition of worldly is "the sinful nature of the world." Which sin is described in express command by God. I am proud that I debate, because that's how one finds truth, by wrestling with it. If it truly is of the flesh then you are in juxtaposition to scripture. Acts 15 and 17 are two instant areas that come to mind. Also, Paul confronted Peter to his face. Plus, isn't your own comment a form of debate? "Responding as I go?" Don't you see the contradiction there? If debate is wrong, then the entire reformation was wrong as well. This accusation is...one might say... stupid ;) Nowhere is debate discouraged in scripture. It's actually encouraged (Acts 17) plus, it does plenty of good. Through debate on this very channel we've had people leave heresy and someone renounce progressive Christianity and sexual immorality. Along with many other things. So once again - you're wrong. We are all wrong from time to time, so that's no something necessarily to be ashamed of, just means you ought to switch your position. Again, 1 Peter 3:15 is a perfect example...and...didn't Christ Himself blast the Pharisees and walk away? Were not people convinced to follow Him for it? This part is what really confused me: how in the world is encouraging someone to go to a hipster church ungodly? Chapter and verse for that? Also, WHEN did I encourage someone to go to a hipster church and what even IS a hipster church? I only encourage people to go to a bible focused church. That's it. Full stop. I could care less about the practice or overall culture of the church. You bring an unfounded and unsubstantiated accusation. This would be considered slander and false witness it would seem. Unless, you completely misunderstood me, in which case - honest mistakes happen, although unsure how that was unclear. The church also is a place for education AND fellowship. Acts makes that quite clear. It's not an either/or but a both/and. You can't prove that statement with scripture at all. Having strong fellowship is a requirement of the church, but that doesn't equate to emotionalism. Again, you're full of false equivalency - taking a logic class might be beneficial. Then you also have the burden of proof on how all these churches reject the word in practice. Many churches do, but that's of all stripes. So now, you have the burden of proof on how I have an arrogant attitude when I confront a false accusation head on. I'll wait, you seem the type like Sexton who says a lot of opinions but doesn't bring forth a lot of facts. Thus, I will not repent for speaking out against slander as we are told to do as the church/pillar of truth. Also, I am a pastor and the my colleague agrees with me. Again, the burden of proof is on you and you came to an intellectual discussion armed with nothing but a plastic spoon. I do not wish to come off like an absolute jerk, but I do not take false accusations lightly.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@moxiefluffenutter in short - you just blasted a debate to walk away going “HA! I showed him” the very thing you accused us of. Congratulations you played yourself. Are you willing to stop with the childish accusations? Or can we talk like adults?

[@Danmason6985]

@@moxiefluffenutter if tattoos are sinful then please explain Jesus having one. I’ll wait for you to study your Bible to reply. It’s easy to level attacks at another person but how about you stand behind what you say? Show me in the Bible where your opinion is upheld? I know Jesus has a tattoo so go ahead and reason it away with your faulty logic. I’ll wait.

[@savannahgreene5659]

My husband and I both grew up in IFB churches in Alabama, you would most likely know both of our pastors if I said them. The Lord made it very clear to us in several different ways that he was leading us somewhere else........"the hipster church down the road". We have received some back lash and criticism for it, but we have grown way more in the 8 weeks we've been there than we ever have because it's not about performance and behavior modification (aka religion) it's ALL about relationship! It has not been an easy transition though because we are having to reprogram ourselves essentially, but it has been the best decision we have made! We are so thankful for the RFP community and for people who are recovering just like we are. The conversations you are having are ESSENTIAL. The reason Sexton and many other IFB "big shots" hate recovering fundamentalists is because it is a threat to them. They're used to being held up on a pedestal and not being questioned.

[@Danmason6985]

Narcissistic gaslighting at its finest by Sexton. Thank you church split for rebuking this behavior.

[@bmorgan595]

This is shocking, yet too familiar. In the "karma Christianity" many adhere to, if "good" comes, then God is happy. If "bad" comes, God is mad, thus you must have done something wrong. So a failed marriage fits their narrative, and fuels their "pigeon holing" of others. Yet when "bad" comes to them, they say it's Satan attacking the Man of God, to seek to deceive their followers. Sick.

[@Emper0rH0rde]

What is it about these low-church separatist bapti-costal type pastors who think they're above reproach just because they're pastors? In the church I belong to - Eastern Orthodox - yes, the priest is a holy man, yes he is what one might call a man of God. But that doesn't mean he's above reproach. It literally means the exact, total opposite. It means "holy man of god" is the *standard* he is now being *held* to. If he fails his post, he has to repent of it, and he might still be defrocked anyway. If he were to say or do something that would cause one of his flock to go astray, *he* would have to answer to God for that at the last judgment. Being a pastor, in *any* Christian tradition, does NOT mean you have immunity. It means *you* are *responsible* for the spiritual health of the people in your parish, and you will be *held* responsible.

[@OwolabiOlatunji]

You were soo much interested in proving him wrong that you never allowed us to clearly heard him explain/speak his points. You kept interjecting him half way again and again. Your personal opinion was what this video is all about and not an attempt to clearly make known the position of the Bible on those matters. I don’t think that’s charitable enough, brother.

[@TheChurchSplit]

1) his own words are all in this video within their proper context. 2) I spoke directly and forwardly but also interacted with the logic and showed how it was non-sensible and how he falsely equivocated 3) the Bible wasn’t used in his own statements but his own opinion. We just held his flippant speech accountable to the laws of logic (one might say the logos) 4) the Bible is clear to live in unity and to call an entire group of people whom you are ignorant about “God haters” is along the lines of what Jesus was saying in Matthew 5:22. 5) you don’t think it was charitable? Are you upset with Sexton for not being charitable in his own speech to JC? Nathan? Jon? Brian? Josh? Louis? Myself and others in the RFP? That’s the irony here. Speak against Sexton and everyone loses their minds. Sexton speaks against others? It’s perfectly fine. 6) I know Sexton. I know many who have worked for him. I know many churches who hosted him and I’m telling you - not everything is as it appears with him. He is prideful, legalistic, self righteous etc. You don’t have to like it. But I’m not here to make friends. I’m here to speak truth.

[@CDaniel1996]

Pastor Sexton was always so kind and caring in all my interactions with him. You could tell he truly has a burden for young people and was a teacher at heart. With you stating being an ex-crownie, it sounds like you started going liberal and rightfully got called out on the carpet for it.

[@TheChurchSplit]

Haha I never went liberal. Still haven’t. I have just seen him lose his temper and tiny things and be an absolutely hypocrite while calling others who don’t practice just like him (but still orthodox) “God haters”. Also, the education there was a joke. I left the IFB. That much is true. But you’ll have to prove that I went liberal. Oh. And one reason I was “called out on the carpet” was because I was dating a Korean girl (as a white boy) without written permission from her pastor or parents. A racist rule it there ever was one. So try to grasp for more straws.

[@CDaniel1996]

@@TheChurchSplit I have my own personal opinion about such a rule. Regardless, when you are willingly attending a private institution you are also agreeing to submit yourself to the institution’s rules, which you apparently did not. The whole point of a place like Crown College is to allow the Lord time to separate you unto Himself and do a work in your heart in preparation for the rest of your life. It’s not about wearing a suit and tie and being clean shaven. It’s not even about passing tests and making good grades. It’s a place where young people can learn to walk consciously in the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ day by day and live the victorious Christian life. I am afraid you missed the forest for the trees by being so focused on all the rules, growing disillusioned and embittered. Having read the other comments I know you will deny this, but you are so eaten up with pride you will not allow yourself to see any of this. It blinds a person. It is obvious to everyone except yourself. Unfortunately when you’re prideful, the last person to find out is yourself.

[@kiddingme01]

isn't using Flubbed Up just a substitution for the F word and don't they have a rule against that or was that Fairhaven that had that rule?

[@HarvardChickie]

I just found you and oh my gosh yes, everything you said!

[@TheChurchSplit]

Hangout the water’s fine. We get spicy sometimes and some people can’t take the heat 😂 But we do try to be biblical and consistent.

[@tess0500]

Unfortunately, I think it's an addiction to money and power. They need the people to shout back with affirmation and give their money so they can wear those expensive suits and drive nice cars.

[@griffisjm]

Wow this dude was seriously hurt somewhere along the way. He's reading into a clip all of his hate and anger. First, yes, there is something wrong with a traveling singer that only sings 2 or 3 songs for a year or more at a time. Your purpose is to bring glory to God, and Grow as a Christian and person and if your only goal is years at a time barely scrape by by singing the same few songs over and over, then yeah, there is a problem. Seems to me like if his story is a true story, he was right. He noticed a lack of spirit and when you are around spirit filled people for long enough you can tell sometimes when people aren't. I knew a kid that called himself a reformed Fund. baptist, and now went to "Church" at a place that called God Female/Male combination and said God approves of Love no matter the type, he may very well have been talking about the plethora of people like that who now find themselves in a horrible anti biblical group, and the fact that you think he must be talking about you or your friends is LAUGHABLE and honestly pathetic. "He didn't know the name", yeah he never mentioned them specifically, you did. You claim you are above the attacks and make them all the time. You lump thousands of churches and millions of people together without knowing them all because you had a bad experience and man I'm almost 100% positive there was a reason for the "split" you had and YOU played a part. You talk about how it's a time for reflecting, yet you choose to respond and further the rage and anger so quit acting like you are taking the high road, and you most definitely attacked. And your continuous mentioning of "authoritarian", blah blah blah shows me you may well be the problem. Even worse is instead of telling someone who may be having a concern TO LEAVE CHURCH INSTEAD OF COUNCILING THEM TO ATTEMPT TO DISCUSS IT WITH SOMEONE AND COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING, shows what type of person you really are, and no, its not good. Encouraging people to leave and go to a "hipster" church, because "it may be good fellowship" and not encouraging them to do very thorough research as to what is being preached further shows your motives to not be genuine and for the people and really only anti-IFB. Sad Sad Sad. You claim you care about people yet your actions say otherwise.

[@TheChurchSplit]

No. I just attended here know how these people operate.

[@griffisjm]

@@TheChurchSplit You act like you took the high road and condemned him for saying those things "at this time", yet worse are attacking a whole group. Not only are you engaging in the behavior but you are acting hypocritically. You openly condemn a group of millions of people without knowing them. You openly encourage chaos and disorder by urging people to leave their church without encouraging people to attempt to address the concern, it's this exact church hoping attitude that is destroying American churches. Quite possible worse is your assumption that he just has to be talking about your little group. I've never heard of you or your group and I've hear several people talk about being "Reformed IFB", several of whom are now seriously mislead and engaging in actual Anti-Christian worship. I could make some broad claim about all RFB people but thats dishonest, something you should consider. It's so painfully obvious you have a grudge and that's clouding your views. If his story was true he was right. I don't know, I was gonna get into it more but I feel it's just a waste of time. If you want address specific issues head up, but reading into things, setting up and attacking straw men is sad, you seem to be better than that. The fact that your identity is founded in church disorder and being EX-Something and not about the furtherance of the Gospel first, and addressing these issues second, says a lot. I shutter to think how many people you could have and still could help if you put the energy you have into trashing people into getting the Gospel out there. If Sexton says something heretical as some of these other preachers do, go for the throat, but continuing to pick apart him and others all because you were hurt one day is not only wrong but hindering Christ, not helping. I mean how dare you encourage people to just leave their church on a whim and tell them to just explore what's out there not encouraging them to make sure they find a biblically sound church. How you can claim to care about people and encourage that so easily is seriously concerning. You're charisma and communication skills are great, you could do so much good and I do love you as a brother and I will be calling your name out in prayer and I just hope you can fix and get over your hurt from the past, move on, and stop the nonsense. If you are anything other than a "Reformed lost soul" something is Wrong!!!

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@griffisjm no I don’t like church hopping. And if you know anything about our work you’d not be speaking so flippantly. I speak openly about all of this because, again, I’ve been part of it. Speaking in generalities isn’t the same as labeling a whole group. We do plenty of evangelism here. But this legalistic fundamentalist attitude isn’t helpful that Sexton and his ilk espouse. They split churches, they condemn anyone who disagrees with them, don’t believe? That’s fine. But I’m very comfortable with my assessment.

[@KudosFeldham]

YES, SIR. I'm not good with words, but this is what I would also like to express. Thank you. However........ your KZbin content concerns me. You're defending the truth on this video page, but when I look at yours, what is up with that??? I feel I MUST ask.

[@KudosFeldham]

If you attended there a good while like many of us, you would not be accusing people of things which aren't true.@@TheChurchSplit

[@timdaugherty5921]

This is my pastor. Long life members of Temple. Wow. This is just rude

[@TheChurchSplit]

Yeah what Sexton said was rude. Nathan, brian, and JC deserve much more respect than that.

[@themanstan0785]

@@TheChurchSplitgrow up

[@KudosFeldham]

I like this comment, yet I'm wondering why your KZbin profile page doesn't match what you're saying.

[@mjoinga]

You sound like a modernist. Like you have a vandetta against this college.

[@TheChurchSplit]

The fact that they had a racist rule? Tried to tear my marriage apart? Defamed my wife? All while claiming God’s name as their authority and taking it in vain? Yes. One might say I have little patience for their nonsense. But very far from a modernist. 😂

[@mjoinga]

@@TheChurchSplit you are. All your bragging was on yourself. You said nothing about preaching the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. That’s what he told his followers to do. Quit focusing so much on yourself. I never heard of you before today. Don’t plan on watching anything of yours again but you are definitely a modernist

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@mjoinga hold up. Nope. That’s not how this works. He falsely accused us, at the RFP Network, of being God haters. I merely pointed to the closest evidence that his accusations were wrong, lies, misrepresentations, and bearing false witness against us. We emphasize unity here, but we also embrace that we most expose the works for darkness, rebuke false teachers, and speak truth to lies. We never defamed him, he defamed us. We never questioned his love for God, merely his manipulative language. PS: we always emphasize unity in the fundamentals of the faith. That includes the resurrected Christ and the blood atonement. Yet, we affirm those and he calls us “God haters.” Absolutely revolting. Here we rebuke Pharisees, progressives, and also teach biblicism. Stick around or don’t. But you might be surprised. Ephesians 5:11

[@KudosFeldham]

Ohh, the made-up junk. Being quite entertained@@TheChurchSplit

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@KudosFeldham what’s entertaining to me is that every time you comment you encourage the algorithm to pick up this video even more. Therefore your comments have only helped support our work. Thanks!

[@lizajane2971]

Did anyone notice the guy behind Sexton and how he seemed to have a nervous twitch with his eye? Perhaps because of the stress... Maybe Sexton would say he's "under conviction"

[@KudosFeldham]

The comments for this video show that y'all don't even KNOW the people you're referring to! The twitching eye thing is something he's had for a while. He DOES that. But then, you wouldn't know that.

[@AmericaineAParis]

I keep revisiting your videos about Crown, because it is so infuriating and ludicrous to me. The girl I knew who graduated from Crown once told me that Sexton had deliberately changed the name, because he didn't like how the outside world was referring to his school. It was something like, the school used to be called Crown Bible College, but he didn't like how the outside world kept calling it "CBC." Something to that effect. She told me that Sexton thought this was taking away from the glory of his school being for the LORD, or whatever petty and senseless reasoning behind it. When she told me this, she was quite serious in tone about the matter, because she believed him. This girl became so arrogant and so emotionally abusive as she was once a friend to me. It was like she changed into a completely different person once stepping foot on this college campus, and she won't admit how much this experience has stunted her own life. That is what legalism does to people. It is so tragic that all of these dumb schools really do not prepare students for reality outside. I've heard of similar stories about Bill Gothard, who seems to be on another side of the fundie spectrum.

[@TheChurchSplit]

I often worry for young people when I hear they’re going to these places because they really do turn brother against brother…

[@AmericaineAParis]

@@TheChurchSplit I worry when legitimate-sounding churches (who do preach the seriousness of the Gospel, but who also know Christ's mercy) don't seem to realise that men like Sexton and his school are essentially cults. That's what I think probably 95% of the IFB in America is, are cults. But others aren't willing to go that far and say so, because others are adhering to a collective culture of Baptist-KJVOism, more so than the Holy Spirit. They are living off of bullet-point dogmas more than truth and reality.

[@AmericaineAParis]

I wanted to point out also that the school has removed the Reviews tab on their FB page. I remember some of those reviews talked about sex abuse being tolerated on the campus (usually by blaming the female student who was the victim), and that the school begged soon-to-be graduates not to tell the outside world of questionable/possibly illegal things going on. When the school removed their FB Reviews function, I started noticing other IFB churches doing the same thing. They are all churches pastored by Crown graduates. Just such a sick, sick environment that I truly believe is more of a cult.

[@lonewolfd862]

I was a student at Crown for the fall 2015 semester. A little about me, i went to an IFB church, but the pastor was a great man and the church was awesome before he retired in 2012. Well, in 2015 i was 29/ 29 for that semester and I am a disabled army veteran. I saw a lot of things at Crown that were just stupid. They would call your parents if you started dating someone there, i mean come on, I'm 29, you call my parents they will laugh at you and say "so what, he's dating?" Also everyone was borderline worshipping Pastor Sexton and that bothered me greatly. They are so focused on appearances at Crown it's ridiculous. I met some good people from there, but i was only there a semester when i saw through all the smoke and mirrors. Needless to say I am glad they take the GI Bill, but its not worth going there. The dress code is ridiculous and Crown college is why I got burned out on going to church. Heaven help you if you skip one service because you're sick because they value attendance over well being.

[@themanstan0785]

Sounds like you were much more focused on standards rather than the purpose of the college. Sad really that you missed out on a wonderful place because you had your eyes on the wrong thing

[@KudosFeldham]

Outward appearance is in the Bible and DOES matter. Salvation and the inside first, yes, but true salvation and surrender to the Lord brings outside change. And going to the Lords house means respecting him by not dressing like we do on Saturday afternoons at nasty Walmart.

[@faithbecauseofreason8381]

I like it when Will gets spicy and starts throwing fire at the IFB!

[@lizajane2971]

A relative got called "of the devil" from the pulpit by an evangelist who happened to be related to the pastor at our former ifb church. He is most definitely not. He dared to disagree with the pastor lying. Kinda think lying makes you more "of the devil"

[@zcarper21]

This is why I stopped attending Crown. I agree with you some great people there, but the hypocrisy is there.

[@TheChurchSplit]

Yup. That’s why I left too

[@zcarper21]

@@TheChurchSplit according to my buddy Eli you and I had a class together. Sorry brother but I don’t remember you lol. I enjoy the channel!

[@Beardedlumbermonkey]

I’ve known Clarence sexton and I was disappointed him saying this! Dating thing that’s not just crown college but it’s most of Baptist college! I don’t blame anyone leaving and I hope God bless you all! I go IFB church in West Virginia and my pastor have a beard and he was going go to this college but he decided to go to Hyles Anderson because of a girl lol! I will not agree everything IFB said and I won’t agree with most people say but what he said was absolutely wrong! I’ll still support people preach the gospel no matter what church you go to if they preach theirs one way get to heaven and that’s through the blood of Jesus! Than we can disagree with couple other things but won’t called names!

[@davidfebo5164]

What year did you attend Crown?

[@TheChurchSplit]

2011-2013

[@davidfebo5164]

So cool. I attended from 2006-2010. I was also a trades school graduate from 2013-2015. I graduated with your sister and Drew in 2010. They should know me. Rebekah is my wife. Also, we are no longer apart of the IFB movement. Prayers for the IFB.

[@davidfebo5164]

If you want you can type "David and Rebekah Febo" on youtube and you will see us singing at Crown.

[@racheltrout246]

Can we appreciate James Zenker's face in the background though? 🙈

[@TheChurchSplit]

His face looking down like “please don’t...please don’t talk to me” was hilarious.

[@bradfinley5373]

It’s 2:30 am and somehow I came across your account and I’m not mad about it. Haha

[@barbiesvenson8180]

I actually stated attending Dorr Baptist because of this podcast. I have thoroughly enjoyed my 5 weeks there 🥳🤓

[@TheChurchSplit]

That’s awesome! Too bad you came after I (Will) left as lead pastor 😂 I’m right up the road from you though preaching and helping at another church. Brian told me you were attending - that’s awesome! We should get together sometime :)

[@barbiesvenson8180]

@@TheChurchSplit That would be awesome! I was listening to your rebuttal to "Pastor" Rager the other day part one and I was dying laughing at parts and thought my head might swivel off as I was shaking it so much at his absurdity. I had to take notes because it was so absurd some of what they were saying...

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@barbiesvenson8180 oh yeah it was insane. Having him on was even more wild 😂

[@carolynbohannon4602]

So i wonder where in Gods word is good friday?

[@KudosFeldham]

Yep! He didn't make a come-back for THAT one! I asked him above, too! There IS NO "Good Friday". TOTALLY unbiblical and made-up. Christ clearly died on a Wednesday and rose on a Saturday evening, which today is our modern Sunday morning. I mean, yes, of course, the point is... he arose; however, if people want to push this whole Friday thing on me, I have no fears because they have no foundation. I know the Bible, and it's not in there.

[@jensonlim9907]

We have Crown College here in the West Midlands, UK. Good bunch of students, used to be led by James Zenker before a personal issue brought him home. Our children first piano teacher was from CC. Good memories.

[@RefundamentalJoe]

The Bible reports that Jesus had a beard and warned his followers about hypocrisy.

[@melindawright6628]

While I learned some very helpful things about the Deaf culture at Crown, met my husband there, and made great memories, I canNOT recommend them as a source for Biblical education. Zenker was kind to us when we visited his church in the UK on a Wednesday. Still, believers are known by their love for one another. The above video did not demonstrate love or Biblical Truth.

[@357trent]

James zenker is back at temple Baptist. He is a great preacher and I look forward to him giving the messages.

[@James-y9w8u]

Amen brother

[@matthewsullivan6560]

Serious question here: is Sexton weighing in now because pocketbooks are getting hit?

[@TheChurchSplit]

No idea. Possible I guess, but impossible to know why.

[@allisonschulte1245]

This was such a good response. Thank you

[@BroZach22]

I’m definitely NOT a recovering fundamentalist but I agree calling them GOD-Haters is wrong.

[@TheChurchSplit]

I’m only trying to recover the fundamentals from the legalistic fundamentalists.

[@barbiesvenson8180]

People like him are the reason we’re recovering fundamentalists 🙄

[@davidbagley1783]

Why are you attacking this guy..are you better?

[@TheChurchSplit]

I’m not attacking. I’m responding to a baseless attack.

[@KudosFeldham]

Video creator says he's not attacking! LOL!

[@PatriotAmerican55]

This Sexton old man is in for one HELLUVA shock when and if he gets to Heaven.

[@Emper0rH0rde]

If he doesn't repent of that kind of behavior, I don't like his chances of making it to heaven.

[@jonny15dk]

He is a born again Christian. He has the fruits to show it and as result of his preaching hundreds or more have been helped to becoming saved. If you go to Heaven you will meet his Church members that are saved. Examine a brother before casting a stone at them. Also God protects Israel and his adopted Children the born Again Christians. You slander them and God will hold you accountable and the same goes for everyone.

[@KudosFeldham]

He was a born-again man of God who preached the Word, and your works will get you on a road for sure.......it's called hell.@@Emper0rH0rde

[@inbredinpajamas]

Yeah I couldn’t make it through this time around I think that dude just made up a story to fit what he wanted to talk about.

[@KudosFeldham]

The guy who made the video?

[@brendadaniels8348]

God does not need your defense, He is not impressed with your achievements, you would be great working for CNN.

[@KudosFeldham]

Bah-ha-ha-ha!!!! I LUV this. Laughter + good entertaining content + content = great!

[@mandygainey312]

Wow......... thanks, Will!!!!

[@TheChurchSplit]

Midnight rants with Will.

[@mandygainey312]

@@TheChurchSplit ☺☺💓💓

[@TheChurchSplit]

I remember that night at dinner. Will: Wait, Sexton said what? Hold on, we need to go home soon. Brian: Well let's finish dinner Will a few hours later: Brian, its done, upload it immediately!

[@caman171]

i went to an IFB church last week and most of the men had long duck dynasty beards lol. they also sang 2 bethel worship songs! shouting and crying all over the place. even in the chior, some men didnt even wear a suit or a tie. it was victory baptist in north augusta sc. it was great except that i am not KJV only. so there must be different factions within the IFB

[@TheChurchSplit]

There are different groups for sure. Various veins but they all keep similar piousness typically.

[@AmericaineAParis]

I've visited Victory Baptist of North Augusta, SC a long time ago. CT Townend's brother is pastor of a church in Athens, GA and is divorced. At his summer outdoor tent revivals, CT Townsend plays Chris Tomlin songs which are CCM, and Tomlin is ecumenical with Roman Catholics. CT Townsend has also preached from Clarence Sexton's pulpit and recommends his school Crown Bible College. They all claim to be autonomous, independent churches as stand-alone before the LORD only, but they aren't. They are a network and all know each other across the USA. These are CULTS and not genuine churches following the ones of history recorded in the New Testament, or like the ones suffering persecution today across underground Iran and China. These are tiny cults that will fall in line with Rome the Whore of Babylon via the heretical emergent church movement.

[@caman171]

@@AmericaineAParis well theres several problems with what u have said. first, historical Baptists were always "linked" together thru associations. so the fact that the churches u speak of are a "network" is ridiculous. theres nothing wrong or unbiblical about churches of like mind and faith being in fellowship etc. how else would u be able to know if someone who joined ur church was baptized or had a good reputation? second, i find it hard to believe CT recommends Crown College, and Clarence Sexton when all the men in CT's church have beards, and Sexton calls it sin. teaching that beards are sin is not only ridiculous, its heretical. Jesus and all the apostles had beards. i do know CT is in fellowship with Ralph Sexton so is it possible u have Clarence and Ralph confused? third, we dont have to agree with someones theology to sing their songs, as long as the songs themselves do not deny Scripture. i bet you sing "Blessed Assurance" and "There Is a Fountain" written by a Methodist who believes salvation can be lost and practices those "Catholic" doctrines of infant baptism and sacramentalism dont you? John and Charles Wesley were "priests" in the Anglican Church and wore clerical collars! or how about "Battle Hymn of the Republic written by a Unitarian? ot "Heaven's Jubilee" written by a Pentecostal who speaks in tongues" Look if u refuse to sing any song that wasnt written by ur tribe, then youd have only or 3 songs u could sing. fourth, theres no way CT or any other Baptist would "fall in line with Rome". we cant even "fall in line" with each other lol. so tell me what church CT's brother pastors? and how is ur own church NOT a cult? sounds to me like ur against any church but ur own, and thats pretty cultish

[@AmericaineAParis]

@@caman171 the irony is that the IFB all calls themselves autonomous, independent churches that are just stand-alone before the LORD. They clearly aren't as they DO all network and know each other: they recommend their own schools amongst themselves and the same "Dr." So-and-So preacher. How can you be a "doctor" with a PhD coming from such a deliberately anti-intellectual and anti-academic school like Crown, Hyles-Anderson, Pensacola, etc.? Anyway, I've heard CT Townsend praise Crown as he was once preaching at the end of the school year for students about to go off to high school. He had a list of schools they were all attending, and while he was quick to catch himself speaking public disapproval for Liberty (it seemed he didn't want to publicly embarrass the student/parents), he spoke favorably of Crown. Why don't you do a KZbin and Google search to watch CT Townsend preaching from Clarence Sexton's pulpit at Temple Baptist Powell, TN? The issue isn't so trivial as whether or not the men have beards. That's just yet another example of some silly preference Sexton has that he imposes onto his followers. The issue is that these are associations and buddy-buddy networking that are not biblical and go against the Scriptural commands for spiritual separation. Another resource is the book I FIRED GOD by Zichterman, which is a really sad testimony of her experiences in the IFB: incest, abuse, just sick stuff. She talks about how the IFB all networks and knows each other. If you get kicked out of one of their bubba dinky Bible colleges, they'll know it across the country! Read her book. Find David W. Cloud, a missionary to Nepal who keeps a massive database of his research and assessments over the decades. It is called WAY OF LIFE LITERATURE, and he talks about his concerns with Clarence Sexton's Friendship Church Conferences due to its break-down in separatism. Find CT Townsend's outdoor tent revival for early June 2022, and see the black musician at the piano. He is singing, "How great is our God / Sing with me / How great is our God." That is a CCM song by Chris Tomlin, an open ecumenist who regularly shares the same stage with Roman Catholic musicians and worship artists. The major issue is not beards (a nonsense distraction) but separation, whether or not you will obey it as the Bible commands. There is a reason why God does.

[@AmericaineAParis]

@@caman171 what's really unintelligent about your argument, is that I haven't even mentioned a church of my own. I've shown you various problems with the IFB world and sources you can check for yourself, but I literally said nothing about the church I attend. This is what's wrong with you Americans: you can't stand being humbled that you really aren't a spiritually strong nation with a spiritually strong church and history. The persecuted Chinese and Iranians absolutely surpass you by far. They don't even NEED your American teachings over there, while USA is basically the only world you know! So instead of considering your problems to repent and right yourselves, you get pouty and whiney: "Why don't you mind your own business? Let's see what church YOU go to! All you do is criticise!" It's such a stunted and arrogant worldview as the very problems that would have been fixed if you are worshiping and obeying the God of the Bible firstly. This bad fruit is what is born from error.

[@roccoray227]

i’m not a fan of crown or temple. like you, i didn’t always agree but pastor sexton was never malicious in anyway. you have complaints about crown so what you joined them they didn’t join you!

[@NancyBalog-xb7eh]

No longer can preacher in the IFB say whatever they want. It's called youtube!!!!!

[@paulmeadows9636]

Bruh. With all the people in the world who have never been saved, you spend your time criticizing people who are trying to win the world to Jesus…

[@TheChurchSplit]

Yet here you are, criticizing us who are also trying to win the world for Jesus. This is what Jesus was talking about in Matthew 7.

[@DPGBehler]

@@TheChurchSplitI downvoted his comment for ya 🤙🏻

[@CindyBennett13]

Maybe we need to get back to God’s words which are the only words that are alive and create true Christians. We need true revival ! Everyone who went to iFB churches and schools need to realize we are responsible To God alone for our personal Choices. We all need to go For the true Christlike behavior which is not what we are seeing in many aspects Of the IFB community. I believe in the fundamentals and we have a Baptist church but I would say we have never identified with the IFB rhetoric .

[@TheChurchSplit]

We should go back to such things. Sadly there will always be people wanting to bash others.

[@robkinman777]

Slander is sewn into their doctrine

[@oshea2300]

Good Friday? Good Friday has nothing to do with the Bible. That's a Catholic tradition

[@calvinreichelderfer7989]

Do you think Christ died on a Friday?

[@TheChurchSplit]

Random off topic question. I go back and forth, but I think it was likely a Thursday.

[@girloffaith16]

I would like to bring a movie quote from the Princess Bride when I hear IFB use the term “God-haters” to describe CHRISTIANS. “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means” Thank you for being transparent. Praying for you and these pastors who are this level (or any level) of deceived. This is so sad. And the fact that they are openly slandering you without addressing your theology or doctrine is telling about them. Keep up the good work, brother! Psst. My husband and I are drinking butterbeer in my profile picture. I wonder how many uber religious folks would be #triggered by this

[@TheChurchSplit]

Beer and Harry Potter at the same time? People will lose their minds 😂 But thank you so much for the encouragement. It’s gets annoying being in the ring with these guys all the time, but it’s a necessary evil.

[@gregb6469]

Why would you post a profile picture that you know some will find offensive? Why deliberately antagonize others?

[@girloffaith16]

@@gregb6469 wasn’t trying to offend, it’s literally just a picture from our honeymoon trip to Universal Studios. We had a BLAST!

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@gregb6469 offense is in the eye of the beholder.

[@gregb6469]

@@TheChurchSplit -- Paul also taught that if the exercise of our Christian liberty causes offense to a fellow believer, we sin against him if we disregard that and continue to practice it.

[@charleschurchill5877]

I am appalled at this post.souls are dying, and going into eternity, you can find a better use of your time.

[@TheChurchSplit]

I am appalled at his word. Souls are dying, and going into eternity, Sexton can find a better use of God time. See how useless that is? “As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality.” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭5:20-21‬ ‭ We are told to publicly rebuke such false teachings. We can’t just become enabling because we fear confrontation.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@Blue Jazz souls are dying and you have time to waste to comment on KZbin... See? I can do it too. It’s just not helpful. We are to rebuke false teachers and slander hurts the Body of Christ. Slander must be corrected by biblical command. (See verses above) There’s more to a Christian’s duty than just winning souls my friend.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@Blue Jazz so sorry! I thought you were the same person attempting to make a hypocritical jab. Nevermind, apparently I’m oblivious to usernames. Carry on my friend and sorry about the friendly fire 😆

[@TheChurchSplit]

@Blue Jazz for sure. I was like “this guy over here can’t see the irony...” Now I just feel silly 🙃

[@OwolabiOlatunji]

The time he may better spend preaching and dissecting the errors of Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Liberalism, etc he’s spending on attacking proving men of God. They have their agenda.

[@heidigillespie8522]

Full support! Super good. These guys expose themselves.

[@snowyowl5556]

Bring back the glorious beard!!!!!

[@TheChurchSplit]

WHEN MASKS ARE GONE IT SHALL RETURN

[@snowyowl5556]

@@TheChurchSplit hopefully soon 🙏🏻

[@mrnoedahl]

Yes he made a mistake here, as all men do. Even Moses made mistakes. But you are putting yourself on the same level as him; making the same mistake. Two wrongs never make a right my friend.

[@AmericaineAParis]

I knew a girl who attended Crown Bible College, and I remember she always made such unintelligent and uneducated arguments about her different positions. She sounded just like Sexton in this video, and the Bible does say that a student is not above his or her teacher. You will be become like your teacher, which is the reason why you cannot replace the LORD Jesus Christ with mere man. Which is what this mere man Sexton wants you to do regarding himself. Anyway, something else to realise about this man is that the latest controversy about him is that he wants to spend good money (I thought his school was deep in debt?) to construct a statue garden on his campus. This is to house the various statues that have been dismantled across USA, to include Confederate generals and other figures. Sexton told the local news that it was important to show the bad side of US history. Yet, obviously his school had tried to hinder race-mixing through such excessive loopholes in their former student handbook. What Sexton does NOT realise and/or care about is that it is the DEMOCRATIC PARTY of America that ALSO wanted slavery and racial segregation! But of course Sexton is touting for Trump and has doubtless long been a Republican. It is also bizarre that when Obama ran for his second term, Sexton allowed Republican Rick Santorum to speak from his own pulpit while on the campaign trail. Santorum is a devout Roman Catholic, so why would Sexton do this? The church world of USA is so, so sick. All of these various denominations are, never mind the fact that the first churches in history as recorded in the Bible were not denominations or ideological movements. They were facing too much bloody persecution from Rome for that. These IFBs are fulfilling Bible prophecy in apostasy by way of the emergent church movement and all of its heretical doctrines.

[@nicrizzi4245]

Imagine devoting so much of your time to examining videos of someone else speaking and creating content expressing how you disagree with them. Imagine spending the same amount of time doing something actually productive.

[@TheChurchSplit]

Yeah you would think Clarence Sexton would have more productive things to do than watch/listen to RFP Network and come up with insults about them to then use in a sermon, we agree there are so many more productive things to do! Name calling is never productive...

[@TheChurchSplit]

Also exposing slander and falsehood is the duty of the church. So we’re right in our job description.

[@donwoodard5590]

That’s what small minded people do! I wasted ten minutes with this trash!

[@chrisclark3361]

I’m an IFB Christian.

[@DaleStamey-re9oj]

Romans 3:4

[@megatron4547]

He wasnt talking about learning new songs. He was talking about these people hopping from church to church and not sitting under a pastor to learn the Word of God and grow. You accuse this man of acting "tough" behind a pulpit when you sit there and act "tough" behind that microphone. You tell the RFP guys to "keep stirring the pot." So don't get upset when a man kicks the pot over.

[@TheChurchSplit]

That’s not what he says in context here

[@megatron4547]

@@TheChurchSplit he says if you hop from church to church you will not grow. You will not develop. He was saying the people could sing the same three songs because they didnt stay long enough for those songs to be exhausted.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@megatron4547 the people he was talking about were part of a traveling singing group…that’s literally what they do. Crown sends many many singing groups across the country all the time. He wasn’t talking about church hopping.

[@megatron4547]

@@TheChurchSplit he said these people came to a place where he was preaching. He didnt say these people were out of Crown. The man didnt say these people werent growing because they didnt learn new songs.

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@megatron4547 listen to the story again…it’s clear in context that these were people who traveled (hence the same 3 songs everywhere they go) I didn’t say that it was out of Crown. I was using it as an example that travel singers are normal in the IFB. Plus, that’s hardly the bulk of the issue in this video. Straining at a gnat here…

[@jmkelley21]

I'll agree that tattoos are dumb. Your body isba temple of God, and I never understood why people get them. However, calling people who are not KJV only a liberal is asinine. People actually get shunned befause if that. It is unbearable.

[@MrBrunoUSA]

I just came across this in my youtube feed. I have seen a couple videos of this sermon excerpt and so I do think he got some negative feedback. It is certainly ok to be feisty. Oh and I am even more of a "God-hater" than you. Not only do I have a beard, I am a former fundamentalist who is now Catholic. I would say that I am a much better Catholic in my 50s for having been fundamentalist in my 20s. an-y-way, just thought I would stop by with a comment. I have a loaf of Italian-style bread to pop in the oven soon.

[@TheChurchSplit]

Haha well welcome to the channel! Hope your bread was tasty 😋

[@KMT65]

Make sure to say 3 'hail Marys' for me today. Are you one of the catholics that puts a statue of Mary inside a vertical bath tub in your front yard?

[@davidsutter1846]

Someday you will grow older and hopefully wiser and your own comments here with embarrass you! Sexton is not perfect---but what is your track record like! You must have something better to do with your youth, health and energy! Can't wait to see what your college is like! Thanks!

[@TheChurchSplit]

We are quite sure Pastor Sexton has something better to do with his life, health, and energy than question the salvation of an entire group of people that love God and his Word. It might not have been clear, but this is a KZbin channel, we aren't a college and don't intend to be one. I sure hope if we ever did start one, our students and graduates wouldn't make such shallow critiques. Also, this seems to be on point: "Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity." - 1 Timothy 4:12 To that end, if you have constructive criticism on any specifics we will actually take those into consideration. If you watch any of our content, you will see we seek truth not self-aggrandization. Thanks for the comment!

[@davidsutter1846]

Pastor Sexton has a wonderful and godly legacy, Maybe work on yours!

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@davidsutter1846 ah. Ad hominem. About the amount of content I’d expect.

[@blazeroneset6541]

You may want to consider 1 Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. Gain = Godliness.... He has a big ministry, therefore he must be godly, right? ...... His church is exploding, he has to be godly, huh? ....... Look at his big college, only a godly person could do that, right?

[@noahschoolfield9411]

i was there in the audience when he told the story about the singers singing the same songs. my buddy got up and walked out when he told that story too. i only stayed for a few semesters. the only good thing about it were the troublemakers, who i mostly made friends with. there was a kid we called “bruce”, he was a effing legend. I think the pastor hasn’t been told “no” enough in his life. the rules were horrible, you couldn’t go out on dates for some reason?? frickin dumb. i still talk to all the friends i made there

[@KudosFeldham]

Well you cussing doesn't make you fit-in at Crown anyways!

[@williammarinelli2363]

I attend an IFB even though I prefer not to identify as Baptist. I won't defend the non-defendable, name-calling of those who disagree as God-haters. What impresses me about said church is the burden they have for the young people - allowing them occasion to learn and apply God's word. I've never run a Christian college but imagine that one has to have rules that may not be convincing to everyone are black/white chapter/verse from Scripture. Best wishes on the recovery. I went through a period in which I was grudge-mental about an abusive church or two. Then I realized that my continued attendance was voluntary. If you're a preacher that keeps smacking me around and I keep coming back, then keep smacking me, I suppose, until I get it. Poof - the bitterness evaporated. But I must add that I won't hang around very long if another church crosses that line - my stakes aren't driven in that deep.

[@vanessadoane9985]

I used to go to Temple Baptist Church in Powell. Clarence Sexton I was a negative person and get away from him.

[@chrisgreene123]

Outside of his warped views, his college also can’t be trusted with the safety of their students. A friend of mine went there and went missing, the school didn’t know until the next freaking day… sexton said not one word until days later. He was more concerned about his schools “reputation”… they failed Blake and it’s pathetic.

[@KudosFeldham]

That's not the full story about Blake.

[@erinrich7840]

​@user-sb2xf8xw9j what is the full story? My husband is in law enforcement and thought the whole thing was fishy

[@KudosFeldham]

Instead of coming home from work like normal, something happened to him. They found his car parked with a cinder on the gas pedal.... so car loud and on when it was found. That part WAS strange. What we Crownies guess is that someone did something to him. Either way, he's with the Lord. It wasn't Crown's fault. It's college..... kids do things, even at Crown (believe me, I attended with a few of them). If someone was joking around, messing around, or playing hookie, Crown isn't going to alert the parents immediately. But soon enough they said, "Okay, um..... he's still not coming to the dorm." It was a very sad situation.@@erinrich7840

[@mrchucho5828]

Your you KZbin channel should be called the cry baby, and I don't even like IFB,

[@TheChurchSplit]

Wow, you roasted us 🙄 If you don’t see the hypocrisy of calling a group of pastors who truly serve The Lord “God haters” while standing in an ivory tower and refusing to engage them when they confronted him. Then I can’t help you. If calling it out is being a cry baby? I don’t even care.

[@johncutler6753]

I came across your video by accident. I get a slew of videos made by folks who either teach the Bible or have experienced many of these issues you touched on in you video. I know who you are! However, you don’t know me personally, but I attended Crown College in Powell and visited Temple Baptist for 3 1/2 years with my family. That was 10 years ago. I’ve seen you there. I’m glad you and I both left that Organized Religious Institution, which is nothing short of a Legalistic Cult, that goes against everything our Lord envisioned the NT Church to be. That man (Sexton) was very disrespectful, condescending, and rude to me and my wife. I can relate to that couple Sexton lashed out at because he treated us the same way, and I’ve witnessed him treat others the same way as well. I’m glad we no longer identify as Baptists. We still love the Lord and He continues to bless our family greatly more each day since we departed from Organized Religion, Denominationalism, and legalistic indoctrination. We’re happier, healthier, and have a closer relationship with Lord Jesus Christ and each other since we disassociated ourselves from those folks. God Bless You, my dear Brother!

[@TheChurchSplit]

Oh funny! Well it’s always funny when someone knows you but you don’t know them 😂 I have it on good authority that My name is still whispered in the halls there at Temple - especially now 😆 But much of what you’ve said is true. I’ve had good friends tell me terrible stories of Clarence’s behavior and I find it appalling. Bottom line is the IFB is a cult. Glad you got out and got healthy same as us. God bless.

[@johncutler6753]

Lol! My wife and I saw your video, and she recognized your name but I recognized your face. And said to her, I’ve seen him before. I also have a beard now, too! Lol 😂

[@TheChurchSplit]

@@johncutler6753 haha niiiiice. That’s funny. I had a reputation for being a “rebel” there. They did a whole intervention with my wife and I and everything 😂

[@johncutler6753]

The Church Split, well it’s like what Thomas Jefferson said: “When tyranny becomes law. Rebellion becomes duty.” If they act like authoritative tyrants who impose their traditions and standards on people, then you get folks like us who see them for what they are and refuse to put with that crap and judge their actions righteously. And, of course, we’re mis-judged as rebels and God-Haters. I do love them, but someone’s gotta hold them accountable and stand up for what’s right. I appreciate what your doing. Believe me, its helping countless people who are abused, discouraged, and dismayed by the attitudes and actions of our brethren in these cults. Our Lord is not pleased with what they’re doing because they’re creating schisms in the Body of Christ and breaking people down to where they can’t get up all the while these guys are put up and pedestals so high they cannot get down. I know tough! I can take a hit; I can handle being yelled at and constructive criticism. Even my Drill Sergeants in Basic (who were lost) treated us better than what I’ve seen in these preachers. I’ve served my time in the military as an infantryman, and spent over 25 years as martial artist and trained under the tutelage of a tough, strict Instructor. But man, the way Clarence is treating people is wrong! It’s not helping anyone!

[@KMT65]

Interesting reply. I followed you 95% of the way. But please explain your departure from "organized religion" (your words). This is usually a red flag for bitterness, cynicism and 'throwing the baby out with the bath water". All new testament churches were "organized". Ephesus, Galatia, Corinth, Phillipi etc etc. Hebrews 10:25-27 clearly speaks of 'gathering' for worship.i;e 'organized religion'. Be careful where you go with your new found "independence". I am not an IFB supporter, nor do I attend a 'baptist' church, but I've been saved 45 years and been involved in local churches at all levels for decades and I clearly see the pendulum swing way to far one way or the other.

[@ignwins3936]

This is petty.

[@Emper0rH0rde]

Yes, Pastor Clarence was being petty.

[@butchcallahan2279]

Who are we to condemn any Christian for their Spirit-led choice in music, Bible version, dress, etc. if he is doing his best to serve God and follow Christ, as these he is attacking? These issues (exterior things) are not doctrinal or biblical issues but matters of conscience. He is setting himself up as being superior to other believers with whom he disagrees. (Interesting CS scolds a brother for not singing "new songs" when his church repeats the old hymns week after week, year after year in the congregation.) I wish he would use his position to teach Christian grace, love for brothers who have a different view of living for Christ. Come on, bro Clarence! You can do better than this.

[@jb812]

If you don’t have a beard your not a man!! Lol kidding but not really gotta have a glorious beard come on now lol.

[@maman5275]

Jesus had a beard 😳 🙌

[@24vignettes94]

I took a circuitous route to find this video Marian dogmas => James White => Steven Anderson => KJV only => Nate R. Rader => here. I first heard of Crown when a cousin of mine (KJV onlyer) sent her oldest daughter there several years ago. I believe she and her husband are still involved with the college. My cousin has since sent two other children there who are both still students. I really expected that these type of churches would have died out a few decades ago, but they all seem to share cultish authoritarianism and the promise of damnation to anyone who “walks away from the(ir) truth”.

[@Paul-yb8pf]

my goodness, he’s only a man (Clarence Sexton) and he prob didn’t get any sleep the night before. If we all were being recorded someone could easily take our words and criticize us , and show us how we’re wrong. I think you are reading into his speaking too much; too much thinking about yourself also, you kept saying I, I , I, love God, i read the Bible, i read it in kjv, i read this book by early church father, I, I, I, and you think it’s all about you. I don’t think Pastor Sexton even had u i’m mind. You know, why don’t you just forgive him, if what he said bothers you. By the way, He’s done more for Jesus than us, i’ll tell you that

[@keatonward8556]

I am very bitter with the IFB. Drove me all the way to atheism, thank goodness it did and I didn't fall into the religion trap.

[@TheChurchSplit]

I don’t think bitterness is good in general, despite where you landed. But I definitely understand the frustration.

[@jonny15dk]

You choose to become a atheist and hopley you choose to get save as well

[@RefundamentalJoe]

One thing I've observed about Sexton is how he specializes in hypocrisy. I haven't seen anyone tells singers, choir, or instrumentalists to repeat familiar songs more often than he has. I've also seen him ask guest preachers to deliver their trademark sermons again, and have heard him preach the same sermons multiple times. Yet, if you do this, he condemns it as shallow. It's always amusing to hear him brag about sticking his nose in other people's business, and then squawk when people far more justifiably examine his. He and Jack Trieber seem to think that men who run colleges deserve total privacy. And that scandals aren't scandals as long as they're involved. Sexton's nauseating blend of arrogance, pride, uncharitableness and ungraciousness mixed with soul-crushing legalism and dishonesty can take years to recover from - if a person recovers at all. This makes him a spiritual thief, robbing students of the basics of Christianity. And since he charges money to do so, he's a thief multiple times over. I don't know if the Recovering Fundamentalists have specifically talked about him, but I'm sure they've covered the mindset he epitomizes. His willingness to continually fabricate rules for everyone else to live by must be one of the more charming aspects of his character. In all these years, he hasn't seemed to tire of lording over others in this way. And I think he must have earned a reward, though it may not be the crown he expects. Thanks for reading!

[@TheChurchSplit]

Dang, well put

[@OwolabiOlatunji]

The tenor of your response sounds like someone who is embittered greatly. You called him legalistic and proud and insinuated that he’s even a thief. The Sexton I’ve listened to again and again is far from any of the uncharitable and unprintable names you assigned to him. Having said that, let us remember that “the foundation of the Lord stands sure and let EVERYONE who names the name of the Lord departs from iniquity.” That’s not legalism, that’s Gospel 101. The Grace of God in Christ is given that we could “be holy and without blame before Him in love.”

[@RefundamentalJoe]

@@OwolabiOlatunji As Will stated in the video, Sexton and Crown College are extremely good at keeping up appearances and putting forth a highly respectable front. If your experience of him is limited to watching messages posted on KZbin, it might take quite a long time to realize the type of person you're actually hearing from. But if you came to his college, you would be given a book full of rules, like that you're not allowed to wear blue jeans in public. You're not allowed to wear T-shirts. You're not allowed to wear shorts. Women are required to wear pantyhose, and on and on and on. Rules governing every single item of your life. And the biggest problem is not that there are rules, but that the rules never stop piling up. And some of them are ridiculous and wrong. After several years of trying to keep all his rules, you could go insane. If you visit the church, you might be impressed, but you won't necessarily know that all of this is going on behind the scenes, unless you stay awhile. If you're a big money church member, you might even be treated nicely. Otherwise, you will be treated uncharitably and ungraciously, as mentioned. And you'll be lorded over mercilessly. If Sexton decides to use you for political gain, you'll even be required to attend political rallies of his making. You'll be expected to go soul-winning and conduct a church ministry every week, which means you will never be given a day off. You might be able to maintain this for a year or two, but eventually you will learn that you're a human and not a machine. You will be used for everything they can get out of you, and if you need a pastor in return, as I did, you probably will not find one. In addition to the messages you hear in church, you'll be influenced by countless other classes and meetings that don't end up in KZbin broadcasts, in which you'll learn the truth of what I'm telling you. It was difficult for me to say what I said about Sexton, because I don't take talking about others negatively lightly, especially preachers. But I chose those words very carefully and repeat them deliberately. Sexton is a thief and liar. And because he is, and I've experienced it, I felt obligated to confirm it, even though I'd prefer to not comment about it. See how he lies for Jack Hyles, as just one example. Quoting a Bible verse to me, and saying, That's not legalism, doesn't make up for Sexton's lifetime of actual legalism. It's hard to precisely describe how bad his influence is. And it's not just a few of us saying it. People I know from school and even people who have worked for him have said the same things to me. I'll give you 2 examples of people I've talked to. One lady I know who worked for him for several years, the last time I talked to her told me she still had nightmares about him. One man I know who came away from being a drug dealer to become a Christian, who has even witnessed the murder of a friend at close hand, looked me in the eye and stated that Sexton is the meanest man he's ever met, after relating some bad experiences with him, which included Sexton being prideful, cold-hearted, and haughty. But I didn't need to hear any of that from them, because I'd already experienced 4 and a half years of it myself. So I could be embittered, as you say, or I could be telling the truth as clearly as I know how. And even if I were embittered, that wouldn't prove I'm not telling the truth.

[@OwolabiOlatunji]

@@RefundamentalJoe These are weighty! How we all need to constantly examine ourselves and compare ourselves with Scriptures. Let’s pray for him while still holding him highly for the work’s sake. I believe he’s a true believer, doing good works (with flaws) and I prefers him to the likes of Joel Osteen, TD Jakes, et al.

[@theidk1776]

Damn I saw the title and said I gotta watch this.

[@TheChurchSplit]

😂 welcome my friend.

[@marioman6469]

I met patsor sexton

[@melissalabarge9794]

And yet you all continue to slander....

[@jakegiesbrecht4368]

Bitter!

[@TheChurchSplit]

Nope. Just no tolerance for nonsense.

[@Donboyd100]

WHA WHA WHA 😳

[@TheChurchSplit]

I take being called a God hater pretty seriously.