Pat Discovers Hobbes from Calvin and Hobbes is a Toy | Castle Super Beast Clips

[@swalsh216]

I was half on board with Pat's disgust towards imaginary friends...until he mentioned it was in kindergarten. I assumed he was talking like...middle school. The idea of 5 year old Pat sneering at another 5 year old for introducing him to his imaginary friend explains so much.

[@MPLoura]

Are you gaslighting me child?

[@Inojin67]

magical thinking shouldn't be encouraged

[@UnlimitedBick]

the instant you start talking to other people who are a similar age, you should probably stop talking to imaginary people idk like fight club isn't supposed to be a heroic reveal "he's so brave, he kept his friend Tyler Durden for 20 years"

[@TupocalypseShakur]

​@@UnlimitedBickhe didn't keep his imaginary friend into adulthood, he made him as an adult

[@koifish835]

@@UnlimitedBick There is such a world of difference between a 5 year old kid playing pretend and the plot of Fight Club. What are you even talking about?

[@DetectiveSkimble]

Reminder, Pat is also the person who doesn't understand DnD and doesn't get why people would play a game that can't be 'won'.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

I suppose it's marginally better than people who think it can be won

[@LieseFury]

pat is also the person who thinks musicians should be robots who don't ever need a metronome or a rhythm section or a conductor or tuning

[@JojoDigitalArtist]

@@LieseFury He did backdown on that a bit at least but still

[@tehGCINA]

@@LieseFury He's also the person who thought artists were just human printers who draw the image top to bottom exactly how they see it in their minds

[@lkim100]

@@LieseFury the more i hear about pat, the more i wonder if he legit understands how humans or even reality work. this man wanted to be a psychologist.

[@doctordoom85]

Bill Watterson, the author himself: “It’s not about if Hobbes is in Calvin’s head, or if there’s magic or something. Calvin sees a part of the world, in this case Hobbes, one way, and the rest of the world sees it another way.”

[@silenceyouidiot]

As a kid, I loved the parts of the comic where the mom comes in to see Calvin somehow tied himself up and she can't understand how.

[@UndeadGary]

Fuck I love Bill Watterson so much. The most wholesome and life defining author of my childhood. I still revisit the comics every now and again.

[@LordKore]

Pat’s lack of a childhood is still attacking him decades later

[@MoostachedSaiyanPrince]

It sounds like Pat's got an imaginary enemy instead of an imaginary friend. And it's just him from his non-existent childhood, who's inexplicably taller than him. Which might be the most on brand thing I've ever seen from him.

[@JamesBuggemo]

He really is like a dwarven gamer. He just sprung from the ground fully formed.

[@Gojiro7]

This conversation proves that as much as much as the "Pat had no childhood series" hurt his feelings.....they were completely validated XD

[@zanethezaniest274]

@@MoostachedSaiyanPrinceSo Paige or Woolie

[@zigmus00A]

Pat's more willing to believe Hobbes was a magical tiger rather then an imaginary friend. Let that sink in for a sec.

[@Dantarn]

The more time passes the more im convinced that Woolie is just an agent of the state assigned to keep Pat's insanity in check with routine reality checks

[@KenTheNoun]

Need to keep Crazy Talk at bay somehow.

[@have345]

😂😂😂 Woolie’s stand is “reality in motion “

[@infernaldisdain8051]

They were mandated by the govt to keep each other’s insanity in line. Woolie is also pretty off beat sometimes.

[@zigmus00A]

​@@have345Woolie was assigned from the Speedwagon foundation in order to make sure Crazy Talk doesn't evolve into Act 4.

[@jjrambles683]

Nah they're both locked in together. Woolie is so crazy he's convinced himself he's the agent in this situation.

[@unboundsky9999]

I have a feeling that Pat was totally the kid who would tell other kids that Santa isn’t real.

[@petrolandcoffee]

Oh yeah epic atheist type alright

[@heavensdeviant]

Pat was certain Santa was real because his parents told him he was real and "my parents aren't liars". Then pat got into a heated fistfight with a kid who said Santa wasnt real and his parents lied to him. Parents then broke it to pat that santa was a lie which flabbergasted child pat.

[@son0fgrim]

he told a story about that one the SBF podcasts

[@ryanizcool3370]

Pat would tell kids now that Santa isn't real.

[@Gojiro7]

he probably also was the kid who brought everyone down saying "were all gonna die someday, so why bother pretending to enjoy life?!" with a straight face

[@fenris5932]

This time: Pat reminds us he's a sociopath and then reveals his Woolie-sized media blindspot

[@Bread_LM]

Pat calling out kids in kindergarten while also never noticing that Hobbes turned into a stuffed tiger whenever Calvin's parents are around is the most Pat thing ever.

[@TaurusOxford]

I think the problem is that Pat thought that Hobbes ACTUALLY turned into a stuffed tiger, as opposed to Hobbes always being a stuffed tiger and Calvin's imagination "manifested" the talking Hobbes.

[@Bread_LM]

@@TaurusOxford No he just straight up said that he hadn't even noticed Hobbes turning into a stuffed animal

[@arempy5836]

​@@Bread_LM"There's Hobbes, the magical talking tiger that hangs out with calvin, and then there's this random stuffed tiger Calvin is sometimes holding. I didn't see any relation"

[@gearhead417]

Pat was just born an angry old man and it becomes more clear every day

[@Killer_Rabbit23]

Also, see Plague of Gripes

[@Alpha00Fox]

Destined to reach his ultimate form as the days gets closer to his event horizon. Will the world survive him at peak efficiency?

[@Kango234]

For what it's worth, I spent years not realizing Jon couldn't hear Garfield talk. I love that most of the replies are people either surprised as I was or confirming that he definitely talked in some media.

[@SkeletonKnifeFight]

...oh my god.

[@SuperDrunkdragon]

Or the fact Charlie Brown isn't actually brown. Mind blowing.

[@_Sage967_]

that's just how pet owners are, they can intuit what the pet is "saying" at a certain point

[@sonicboomers122]

Garfield is never talking he just has thought bubbles

[@invaderpez12]

To be fair, other media besides the original comics would have it where he did talk so its understandable

[@Graysett]

4:15 "If you have to ask you've already decided". Wow that hit right in the gut, I'm stealing that one.

[@SapphireCarbuncle009]

This all makes way more sense when you understand that Pat had zero clue how art and artists worked until Plague had him on for an art stream

[@mediamonger6514]

Please share more details what the fuck this means!!? What did pat not get, and what did plague help him understand?

[@SapphireCarbuncle009]

@@mediamonger6514 basically pat thought Plague just like did some magic bullshit and then suddenly art was done. I'm dead serious, you can see one of the old art streams where he does the sketch before Pat starts asking just THE dumbest question in a while

[@FrozenOver0]

@@SapphireCarbuncle009 Do you remember which video it was?

[@chrissmith9167]

@@FrozenOver0iirc it’s the Judi redesign stream.

[@mediamonger6514]

@@SapphireCarbuncle009 So he didn't understand the fact that theres a lot of steps between starting a drawing and a finished piece? Can you remember any of the questions he asked? this is such a fascinating concept to me lol

[@-sockhead-744]

Pat really seems to have a massive disdain for anyone with a creative bone in their body lmao

[@asdf852asdf]

I have a theory that if you give him the right musical instrument or a canvas and paint he would unlock some insane rainman power and reveal hes like a genius jazz player or like that guy who could paint cities from memories

[@MrFox1123]

He hates them because they naturally possess that which he lacks entirely. Childhood and Imagination.

[@Rusty_Spy]

Considering he hears everything including music and singing in his head in his own voice, it makes sense

[@sir_stride]

Pat is a sad strange little man. Emphasis on "little"

[@manticorephoenix]

“I had a childhood (godamn it)” Pat would exclaim loudly over the years, as he often in the same breath continued every year to loudly prove he didn’t have one

[@boodle399]

There's an irony in pat making fun of people with imaginary friends only to not notice that hobbes is infact an imaginary friend

[@Mr_Jumbles]

All but confirmed Pat was the actual kid with an imaginary friend.

[@manjackson2772]

No hang on, if you don't know the source material that well it's a valid thing to assume. Calvin and Hobbes were in the same medium and format as Garfield, Heathcliff, even Dilbert has its share of talking animals that just are talking animals.

[@boodle399]

@@manjackson2772 doesn't invalidate the irony of it.

[@Loffeleif]

Bill Watterson was the realest for drawing Calvin & Hobbes exactly for as long as he felt like, and not one single panel more. He could have Garfield'ed that shit but refused to.

[@KoPLeaderKiactu]

Not to mention apparently he hates that "Calvin pissing on X" thing so much that it helped make him want to end the series.

[@jack_rabbit]

he also hasn't let them make a single piece of official merch (that i'm aware of) or any live action or animated translations of the IP.

[@KotoRyu]

Honestly I don't think Calvin and Hobbes could be Garfielded, considering that a solid thirty to forty percent of it is literal philosophical debate. You'd have to try way to hard to Garfield it effectively. It was only rarely, if ever, "Haha Calvin got hit with a snowball", and that "Calvin Pisses on X" isn't even taken from an actual panel. I mean, except for maybe his face.

[@Loffeleif]

@@KotoRyu Oh you would be surprised. I grew up with the comic and never understood the philosophical undertones until I was older. I did however love all the slapstick and expressive drawings which often accompanied the dialogue. There definitely were ways to monetize C&H, but impressively it never happened.

[@cybergeek11235]

@@jack_rabbit other than the books

[@Gojiro7]

I think Pat is the least qualified person to call someone else's actions cringe, Mr never learned how a toilet roll works and tried to defend doing it the wrong way XD

[@johnrivers3813]

Oh God I forgot what it was... Doesn't he use a whole toilet paper roll for one wipe?

[@TAMAMO-VIRUS]

@@johnrivers3813 No he holds the roll while he poops and tears off how much he needs

[@MrFox1123]

@@TAMAMO-VIRUS it's worse. he holds the roll while he stands and pisses to and has on multiple occasions dropped the ENTIRE roll into the toilet.

[@Gojiro7]

@@MrFox1123 and dont forget him asking others how often they drop the entire roll into the toilet is what outed him on the podcast in the first place, Matt told him to his face "how many time of people not coming to the defense of your weird ways has gotta happen before you learn?" (im paraphrasing there) XD

[@MrFox1123]

@@Gojiro7 NEVER forget. That's one of the big reasons why I'm still sad they broke up, but thankfully Woolie still provides the regular straight-jab-sandbagging of mockery pat needs to remind him to up his ginger firmware.

[@kamikazelemming1552]

Pat and his 16 sets of eyes, never noticing the Hobbes doll that was explicitly shown throughout the entirety of the comic.

[@idzim4n219]

The thing Pat doesn't realize about imaginary friends is that most of the kids that had them were the kids who couldn't make a lot of friends, so he's basically just shitting on awkward kids for being themselves

[@Kaarl_Mills]

"Stop gaslighting me child!" The words of a totally sane man

[@Gojiro7]

also childhood is the period in your life where you don't know how much of the world works and nobody can answer most of your confusions about it, so you invent someone to help figure that out because your not aware yet its not normal. So Pats also shitting on children for not knowing more then him or more accurately to his story, him being a grumpy adult trapped in a even tinier child body and can't relate to other kids

[@callumdonington2227]

Just as god intended

[@Rusty_Spy]

Like that would affect his attitude towards those kids on any way

[@DoofusSupreme]

Next you're gonna tell me Calvinball isn't a real sport

[@Loffeleif]

Realer than quidditch that's for damn sure

[@StoneEagle194]

Calvinball is whatever you want it to be

[@ActivelyVacant]

Calvinball isn't a sport, it's a way of life.

[@egg2520]

Blitzball is LESS THAN NOTHING compared to Calvinball

[@kurowasanabe]

I'm pretty sure it's a popular sport worldwide but they just call it Cricket because of copyright issues.

[@FlyblackCelestia]

man not having an imagination as a child is wild

[@Kaarl_Mills]

Story checks out for a man who's memories are all only in his own voice

[@BooAxe]

@@Kaarl_Mills what. the . fuck. are there people in this world like this

[@thepickles8833]

It’s a sign of low intelligence.

[@liamfoote7164]

​@@BooAxethere's literally a clip where pat says he is like that

[@dyliososcioso650]

Pats kid is gonna say they have an imaginary friend and then Crazy Talk is gonna activate and stuff is gonna start moving around his place seemingly on its own.

[@KenTheNoun]

Well stands are hereditary, so who knows, that may happen even without interference from Crazy Talk.

[@BewbsOP]

Son: "Dad, my imaginary friend is totally real." Pat: "No he's not, son, your imaginary friend is not real." BjooOOOoo STAND ACTIVATION

[@Malicious_Hero]

Or Paige will do it to mess with him.

[@SilencedBTM]

​@@KenTheNounWhat is his son's stand gonna be, that's the real question.

[@Sethar1234]

Pat's violent hatred of anything involving imagination REALLY jumps out in this one lmao

[@ThisAlbino]

I think there's a reason Pat's education in psychology never transferred into a career.

[@thewordywarlock7159]

Could you imagine Pat being your fucking therapist lmao. He sure can't because imagination is for cringe dumbasses, apparently

[@SilencedBTM]

In some of his streams I remember him talking about being really dismissive towards the therapy side of stuff too, not quite to the point of "stop being sad" but not too far off either. So yeah, kinda? lol

[@Kaarl_Mills]

He was educated in psychology? As in, attended an accredited institution of learning, with state certified instructors, and gained knowledge on the topic of psychology? Is this a bit?

[@JojoDigitalArtist]

@@Kaarl_Mills Nope I think he actually does have a degree in it but unsure on that part but he's educated in it and talked about it a LOT in the SBFP days

[@Shugamri]

​@@Kaarl_MillsPat has I think a Bachelors of Science in Psychology, or the equivalent of one in Canada's college system. So he's halfway there to getting fully licensed to being a practicing psychologist (he'd have to also do a few years of medical training to be a practicing psychiatrist, as they are the ones who can prescribe medications)

[@laggy3099]

As a fan of RP, Foster's Home, and Calvin and Hobbes, this clip is *REALLY* painful

[@Sethar1234]

lol yup

[@Kaarl_Mills]

Picture checks out

[@Mr_Jumbles]

As a fan of braincells, this clip is REALLY painful.

[@corwinchapman4565]

"Was that strange of me, to go there, as a child?" "Uhhhhhhhh"

[@lbcyber]

Also, in nearly all cases, children do not believe their imaginary friend is real, because that would be, you know, psychosis. It's very-well understood to be make-believe by the children. It's cops and robbers, but single-player.

[@FaelumbreProject]

For real. At no point I made other kids go "hey, engage in this make-believe only I'm engaged in, which is totally real", I'd play by myself with my imaginary friends because I was lonely and wanted to roleplay ideas for the really cool cartoons in my head. Sometimes that information would slip out because kids are stupid, but not because I BELIEVE believed in them, just because I formed an attachment with that character not unlike doing that with other people's media. It's not the healthiest coping mechanism, but like, it's the sympton, not the cause. Don't give kids proper outlets for their imagination and they're gonna be weird, whatever you think they'd develop is already there.

[@theotherjared9824]

Y'know, imagination and creativity, signs of a well developed mind, and a lack of either at Pat's age being worthy of diagnosis.

[@darthskele]

Good God, pat acts like he's superior to folks who use their imagination while having such a lack of one that his brain couldn't process that Hobbes was a toy the whole time Edit: "That kid needs help" oh pat. This is like that time Woolie was telling him about that game he played with other people where they make up their own language as they go along and pat looked so *confused* about it. It's to the point that i think him acting like everyone else is dumb for using their imagination is just a way to cope with the fact that he doesn't have one

[@iller3]

Well I man... could you imagine being so impaired in that capacity that your own brain structure even filters out what everything SOUNDS like when you go back and try to recall voices? Who knows what it's doing to basic shapes and gestures.

[@JoseRS1186]

​@@iller3Everything is Pat shaped

[@fluidthought42]

​@@iller3 Well, aphantasia isn't a lack of imagination or creativity, or an impediment. Is that what Pat has, or is he just weird? I dunno!

[@kingragnarok7302]

9:56 holy shit Pat looksl ike he has gained 50 of insight at once and now sees the world as it truly is for the first time in his life.

[@fearjunkie]

Pat: *enjoys RPGs* Also Pat: *thinks RP is cringe*

[@zanethezaniest274]

Pat would say smth like : No u don’t get it, the imagination and creativity relies on the writers. I am simply ENJOYING their creativity not indulging in it.

[@RedStar_N7]

Nah but its different tho. Roleplayers actually enjoy what they do. Pat is cool because he's contractually obligated to play trash. See? Not cringe. Its totally different when Pat does it

[@joshbored15]

Enjoying a story and numbers going up doesn't require you to pretend to be the character, this is such a false equivalence.

[@kalenics123]

Number goes bigger to numbers go bigger!

[@Shotgun_Gospel]

The RP in RPG stands for Rsecond Pjob.

[@lexofexcel886]

Yes, Pat. Calvin needs help. But not for the reasons you think he does.

[@MegaBichiX]

Wait, are you telling me Woolie was Pat's imaginary friend all along and he just refuses to admit it?

[@MrFox1123]

Paige is really just pat's nurse in the sanitarium. And woolie is his imaginary friend. And the podcast microphone is just one of his turds he speaks into. And Zangief? a big fucking RAT.

[@Gojiro7]

I'm shocked Pat never watched Fosters, because I think he would have unironically identified so well with how much of a selfish opinionated character Bloo is and mostly likely never even realize it XD

[@iller3]

he would HATE Bloo and not even understand why

[@MostLikelyMortal]

I mean he also would have been in college at the time so

[@Shugamri]

Someone needs to write in a question with "Dear Wilt and Bloo from Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" to drive that point home

[@Kaarl_Mills]

Pat would hate bloo for being taller than him

[@andy12345678912]

He probably would have been in college around the time it aired, and I also don't know if the imaginary friend thing would fit the conversation much since imaginary friends are 100% real in that world, people can just will creatures into existance. Someone has to post the clip of Terrance imagining a sentient slice of pizza that lives for less than 5 seconds because it gets eaten alive as soon as it's created.

[@kingragnarok7302]

5:27 Pat claiming that rping is cringe while slouching in his chair and with that posture of his radiates such a powerful energy. Is not a good one, but it's powerful.

[@SciontheDark]

Like the warp

[@Gojiro7]

I think Pat has a lot of nerve calling Rping cringe with a straight face like he's NEVER said or done anything cringe.....even outside this very video XD

[@zanethezaniest274]

@@Gojiro7 Pat ‘uses an entire paper towel roll to clean a soda stain’ Bolvin

[@capsule-kin6436]

​@@Gojiro7pats defense to that he knows he cringe so it doesn't matter. The more time passes the More I think pat might just be judgement asshole.

[@thefuzzter]

“I called out imaginary friends as bullshit” - Pat “I didn’t know Hobbs was an imaginary friend” - also Pat

[@JJMomoida]

These were my exact same thoughts listening to the podcast on my way to work... lmao

[@SvarogAristaeusAllen]

If I had a chance to try to explain Roleplaying to pat it'd be like, "A fiction book is one person roleplaying with themselves, they make the lore world and characters and act it out with themselves in their brain. Roleplaying is just that with more people" But he probably still wouldn't understand. Also jesus christ pat when you make a character that looks like you in a videogame you ARE roleplaying

[@01Zipang]

woolie hasn't lived until he's seen Roblox kids RP as cops and scream OFFICER DOWN OFFICER DOWN

[@lbcyber]

At this point Pat might as well say that having fun is cringe

[@Dabednego]

And now because you said so he will.

[@nspade9252]

Most fun things are pretty cringe, the real realization is knowing that it's okay to be a little cringe now and again.

[@Kite403]

I can imagine a currently-aged Pat in kindergarten telling a 5 yo child their imaginary friend is stupid lol

[@Sonamyfan875]

And then getting sucker punched.

[@Brave_SJ]

He should be careful picking on bigger kids like that

[@OneWayGlassProductions]

He IS short enough to sneak in so long as nothing reflects off his head too harshly.

[@WillTheGreatest]

Boy for a guy that plays a multitude of video games requiring imagination youd think the whole "calvin has a big child like imagination" thing would land on pat crystal clear

[@cybergeek11235]

*puts on his Pat hat* "No video games don't require imagination from ME they require it from the DEVS. _I_ just have to accept the rules of the universe that the game is set in."

[@Kango234]

​@@cybergeek11235That unironcally sounds like something he said before.

[@Dragonsmana]

@@Kango234 Pat is also someone who straight faced said he has never actually been immersed in a video game.

[@Khotgor]

Pat is one who also always has to play a game 'the right way'... the right way, for any game, being to go for the most broken/easy build that a game can offer. Remember that he also hates any kind of build-based game in RPGs and such, and would rather play a simple structured 'class' or a fighting game character.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

@@DragonsmanaI can’t say immersed, but I can’t not ever realize my eyes are seeing the edge of my screen

[@Night-Lord]

I love that you can see the gears turning in Pat's head. It's just "oh okay" *glances to the right* *tick tick tick tick tick* *eyes go wide* "Hobbs wasn't real!!?" Astounding. You couldn't write a reaction better than that

[@TomboTime]

Please God, let Pat's child have an imaginary friend. Please.

[@TyranusRex721]

Every day more and more evidence comes up that shows Pat does not have a single ounce of creativity or imagination in his entire body. His inability to understand even the most basic things at times just blows my mind. Someone needs to study this guys childhood to see what went wrong. Thank god Paige is there to help raise the kid.

[@silenceyouidiot]

Hey now, he put the remaining creativity left in him into Paige. 🥲

[@Sonamyfan875]

He's become DarkSydePat.

[@blackbeltboar]

Woolie's reaction to Pat not realizing Hobbes was a toy is the definition of "Ah shit, here we go again."

[@stickmangrit]

oh lord, watching Woolie BSOD over whether or not Pat is pulling a bit here or not is _priceless_ XD

[@FoolsGil]

Pat being a father is going to be real interesting, isn't it?

[@thewordywarlock7159]

In the same sense of the word as the ancient curse "may you live in interesting times"

[@everettvonscott]

If you can't say anything nice...

[@Kaarl_Mills]

Interesting in the sense of Scientists Doctors will spend years trying to understand what happened

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

I was always certain that I wouldn’t teach a child the right things

[@Rusty_Spy]

Maybe in the same way his fatherly instincts spontaneously manifested when seeing other parent's children, maybe having a kid of his own will make him develop an imagination.

[@VacantPsalm]

In his defense, a kid with a magic tiger friend is totally on par with what you could expect from a comic strip.

[@thewordywarlock7159]

Absolutely wild to hear someone fundamentally disagree with and hate the concept of _imagination._

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

Pat is Squidward.

[@everettvonscott]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 Squidward was able to let loose and have fun sometimes.

[@iller3]

this has been quite the ongoing saga for this goblin man...

[@MrJustinArt]

Pat would fit right in with the boars from TaleSpin (they sentenced one of the kid characters to jail for having imagination)

[@Rusty_Spy]

@@miguelnewmexico8641 even Squidward had an imagination

[@invaderpez12]

I genuinely hope this is a bit because the possibility that his kid has an imaginary friend and Pat thinking theyre stupid or need help is slightly concerning.

[@Steamedhams578]

Well I talk to myself all the time and that's pretty similar in practice to having an imaginary friend. It'd be like my imaginary friend was my own brain or something. When people catch me I get embarrassed and some of my friends usually tell me I got a problem so I guess it's fairly common for people to find that sort of behaviour unusual. My friend told me on the way to school back in the day his mom saw me talking to myself and said "u better not go near that boy" lol.

[@RayShadow278]

@@Steamedhams578 Man talking to yourself isn't even that weird, it's a good way to sort your own thoughts at times, people are just needlessly judgmental for no reason

[@Dragonsmana]

@@RayShadow278 I do it sometimes too, I just always saw it as a manifestation of my ADD and the thoughts being partially or fully vocalized due to lack of focus.

[@onimaxblade8988]

What's partly funny to me though is that it's actually a rather child-like response to also be like "What are you talking about, there's nothing there"

[@RadonX9]

@@Steamedhams578 i think you need to find better friends tbh

[@zigmus00A]

Someone needs to tell Pat that Foster's Home introduced the idea of imaginary friend *Bloodsports!* He'll definitely start warming up to the idea.

[@StoneEagle194]

Pat's face, at 9:58, that's a genuine mind explosions right there

[@NamedSword]

Man, Pat really just popped out of the womb as a bitter old man didnt he.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

The real tragedy of being born in Quebec

[@Sonicstriforce]

Pat legit thought a kid walking around with a tiger was normal and real. I imagine him then going *"Next you're gonna tell me Winnie the Pooh characters are stuffed animals Christopher Robin owns!" XD*

[@ColdNorth0628]

Pat: "They are not there" Imaginary friends: *Is IMAGINARY* Man if time more than ever a doctor should roll in and just write down Pats brain ,this study would just emphasize how important stages of development are and how it can just form a brain like pats without it. He does not get DnD because there is no winning, he does not get imaginary friends, he can not even actualize songs from memory without it being HIM doing the music and it ends up sounding TERRIBLE in his brain, and now he never put together that the stuffed tiger in a comic was a toy and a Imaginary friend of his denial of the concept of imaginary friends being a thing. And he can not understand a characters change can rewrite opinions (Anakin to Vader).

[@Steamedhams578]

That last part sounds plain insane what does that mean exactly? He can't understand how a character developing would change someone's opinion of them?

[@julioc.3158]

​@@Steamedhams578 Sounds very Pat to me tbh

[@steffanofumo]

There is no way!!!! Any doctor would quit before finishing such a study, either from exhaustion just by the sheer amount of writing, or because they themselves would go insane processing all the absurd info Pat would be giving them lol

[@ColdNorth0628]

@@steffanofumo they are already burned out. At least this discovery would make them bank.

[@Broomer52]

More and more I feel like Pat has always been an angry old man and him saying he had a childhood has been the longest Gaslight of them all

[@cybergeek11235]

Woolie's expression was *pitch fucking perfect*

[@XcaptainXobliviousX]

"It would seem to me, though, that when you make up a friend for yourself, you would have somebody to agree with you, not to argue with you," Watterson said. "So Hobbes is more real than I suspect any kid would dream up." literally a quote from Bill Watterson

[@tigers3748]

This is one of those things I would have sworn must have come up at any point in the 10 years of videos and podcasting you guys have done lmfao

[@Zeikier]

People who did that "Final Calvin and Hobbes" bullshit were the worst cuz it misses the point so goddamn hard about who Calvin was as a character. Right up there with people sprinting past how good Ed Edd and Eddy's characters were and just going "BUH THEY'RE ALL DEAD AND IN PURGATORY."

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

woolie, master of the long pause

[@goronhead]

Pat's face when he realized instantly told me the title wasn't a bit. Sometimes I worry about him.

[@TheSergio1021]

How we go from GTA content being pulled to Calvin and Hobbes is the primary reason why I listen to this podcast

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Next he'll figure out that the Winnie the Pooh characters are also toys.

[@_ArmIa]

Can’t wait to see how he reacts to Toy Story.

[@IvanDubsK7]

“That kid needs help…” -Pat, 2023

[@psychomammoth9640]

Fosters home for imaginary friends was one of the many programs on Cartoon Network that held a unique perspective and workings of imaginary creature logic.

[@minniemystic7185]

I died alittle when pat started talking about Calvin and Hobbes

[@SIMIFU]

...I hope Pat's kid grows up to call out Pat on his Bullshit at an early age, that would be hilarious. I'm praying Paige will teach him well. 🤣

[@BlazeMakesGames]

I love that you can see the moment that Pat's mind explodes

[@robertcopp2411]

I imagine Kindergarten Pat to be the exact same as now, just 3 feet tall. Beard and everything. Telling other little kids that they're dumb.

[@Installation17]

What does Pat mean by "*thought* they had an imaginary friend"? The imaginary friend is already imagined. Imaginary. Make-Believe. Is this a double negative situation where the friend is actually real and the kid just thinks they're imaginary? Or is the imaginary part true and the kid just thought the imagined person was their friend? An imaginary acquaintance?

[@lokidokey7586]

...the thought of a real person deliberately pretending to be an imaginary friend is actually really unsettling.

[@ChrisMerkelStudios]

@@lokidokey7586 There was literally a Batman The Animated Series episode about this, and yes, it was pretty unsettling.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

​@lokidokey7586 I'm pretty sure a ton of horror movies and campfire stories use that premise. Also I'm pretty sure I've heard a few bigfoot stories with that twist.

[@GodammmitKalcour]

You know what Pat, YOU'RE Cringe. If you'll excuse me, I've got to serve customers in my Goblet Based Tea House.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

The limitations of the cringe barrier

[@Mantis47]

Because Woolie mentioned it and it's really extended I'm gonna take the opportunity to point out that the infamous strip where Calvin is like "I have to focus on my studies" and Hobbes turns back into a toy is fake, it was never done by Will Watterson.

[@111cvb111]

Holy shit Pat's face when he realizes Hobbes is a toy could be a Twitch emote, its perfect.

[@thepickles8833]

Pat: “imaginary friends are stupid.” Also Pat: “Mom, what will happen?!! The Power Rangers can’t lose!”

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

The cracks are forming

[@RagnorokKing]

Pat said his thing and I just stared at him....what the fuck did he mean. And then I listened and now firmly believe that Pat never had a childhood, he was born at 18 and has had false childhood memories implanted.

[@TrojanGamer10]

The motions of Woolie's brain when he learns Pat never knew Hobbs was a toy

[@Fawxhead]

Pat unintentionally references a Robot Chicken bit with Calvin and Hobbes

[@MuffinHunterX]

I always roll my eyes anytime someone says they were too old for X thing. Im 41 (older than them) and I saw every episode of that era of cartoon network's golden/experimental run.

[@bLAZay00]

Poor Woolie was going, "Whoa, Pat really went all in on team FTK"

[@chero666]

This entire back part of the podcast was a back n forth of 2 men failing to make a point and stumbling across the English language

[@fspamss]

"Was"

[@Steamedhams578]

I feel like that's most of what the podcast ends of being. They try but both aren't great at making their points clearly.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

I feel like I’ve been watching long enough that I just kinda understand where they’re going with the metaphors a lot of the time. Actually it’s probably how I talk come to think of it...

[@BlueScarabGuy]

Watterson intentionally left it completely unexplained as to whether Hobbes is actually magically alive but only around Calvin, or whether he's a figment of Calvin's imagination, because it doesn't matter.

[@Polymathically]

10:25 Woolie's expressionless, but obvious incredulity is priceless.

[@MrBda241]

I feel like Pat would absolutely hate Bloo from Foster's home. If he hates Eric Sparrow, he'd hate Bloo.

[@Kaarl_Mills]

The real reason he hates Bloo is because he's taller than Pat

[@UnlimitedBick]

tbf bloo is an asshole like 80% of the time now wilt, that's a cool guy

[@Dragonsmana]

I don't understand Pat's need to make himself sound like an asshole from parts of his life we will never have to see lol. As for the RPing and stuff, I don't partake but I can totally understand the appeal other people would find in it. It is why Renn fairs and stuff exist.

[@Shadowvanify]

I think it’s clear from this and other conversations that Pat, whether from physiological or psychological reasons, didnt/doesn’t have the same range of imagination as most people, and since his own experience is what he has the most to draw from, he doesn’t often realize that this isn’t the norm, so he thinks he’s saying something obvious that we all would agree with.

[@Dragonsmana]

@@Shadowvanify Yeah, but that kinda stops being understandable when nearly every single time his phrasing on it *has* to be negative and an attempt to tear someone else down and make himself seem like the cool/smart one in whatever situation he is describing.

[@CaffeinatedKing]

About 3-4 years ago I remember GTARP got pretty big because there was a particular group of Roleplayers that were currently or formally real cops doing cop RP and catching players "breaking the law" on their servers (There were minigames that criminal players could do to make money but they had to avoid getting caught). The banter between them as their characters was why it was funny, and it was honestly approaching the levels of an episodic Super Troopers at times. Essentially it was just a longer version of cops and robbers with "storylines" But I have no idea if it's anything like that now.

[@TripleDsTV]

Dont let all this distract you from the fact that Woolie believes the original Spider-man India design is better than the spider-verse design.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

Pat's in that subgroup of unique people where imagination isn't just impossible, it's a totally foreign concept. Like, Patrick, how do you think fiction books are written? Or games are made? Bill Watterson's work defined my life as much as Gary Larson's did, and in basically the same way, except my brother was the Calivn & Hobbes fan, and I was the Far Side fan. I was a weird kid. I'm an even weirder adult. Pat is missing out on an entire subject of mental and emotional experience, and I am _so fucking glad_ he never became a shrink.

[@dyloniusofsparta]

I've changed my mind, Pat you are not normal.

[@typhonyx_was_taken]

I think that some people just want “mundane roleplay”. They don’t want to speed off in a car chase or be goofy for stream content, they just want to be someone else, doing… nothing?

[@217adaptiveperspective]

I could see it as like writing a story, but instead of writing it you're acting it out as it goes along... doesn't explain all the filler episodes though

[@DemonFireRain]

I think there's a reason why games like The Sims, Animal Crossing, and Stardew Valley are very, very popular. Some people just like chill life simulator stuff.

[@DetectiveSkimble]

I can relate cause when I was a teen I'd be doing that stuff on Gmod all the time. The ones where you slowly build up money to buy a home or open a shop. It was fun in the realm of being like a tycoon simulator but with other people. Now personally I can't understand wanting to RP in the GTA universe, but to each their own of course!

[@iller3]

...perhaps they think their lives are chaotic enough as it is?

[@Killer_Rabbit23]

Being Pat's kid is going to be tough. God speed young Pat Jr!

[@Viviantoga]

Tiny Pat probably hated imaginary friends because he could only ever hear them in his own voice and assumed every single person was mocking him.

[@IronUlysses]

This title sums up Pats utter lack of understanding or acceptance of the concept of creative imagination more than anything possibly could. I swear if I hadn't seen this man express outrage at morally fucked up shit in the past I would think he's a member of the Borg

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

I’m astounded by his understanding of silent hill 2 even more now from this nonsense

[@IronUlysses]

@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat That's the weird thing, he absorbs understands and loves creative works all the time for his job. But someone embodying a character and acting as them through an improvised story, god forbid! The line for things he can't/won't understand is always a little weird

[@IronUlysses]

Like it's so odd to me that someone who spent so much of his life as a lets player and streamer can call RP for an audience blanket and complete cringe, like yeah sure but that makes you SUPER CRINGE video game man!

[@BewbsOP]

Here's a fun fact: It's implied that hobbes might actually be real. There are moments where hobbes interacts with things and people other than calvin notice. You could blame them on calvin simply pretending hobbes did it, sure, but there is also a moment where hobbes, outside of calvins presence, puts on a clothes for a celebration that neither calvin nor his family knew was happening and people notice them on the stuffed toy (meaning he was actually wearing them). This means that either 1: calvin (or his family) preemptively put a suit and tie on hobbes for a party neither of knew was going to happen, or 2: hobbes is real, has actual agency, and is merely *seen* as a toy by people other than calvin.

[@McDumDum]

You can say that Calvin "imagined" that he was somewhere else at the time so he could end up in a scenario like that. Like when Calvin made clones of himself and was in multiple places at once, you could say he was very hyperactive or something like that.

[@BewbsOP]

@@McDumDum that's dumb. At that point, you could say the entire story is imagined and literally nothing happened ever. Calvin didn't imagine he was at school but actually wasn't, then imagine a person he doesnt like has a birthday, then imagine that they decided to come over without permission, but also plan it all ahead of time so that hobbes has the clothes on early.

[@McDumDum]

@@BewbsOP So just because you see Hobbes push the wagon himself with Calvin on it means it's impossible that Calvin pushed it instead? It's all about perspective. People see things differently, that's the entire point of the comic.

[@BewbsOP]

@@McDumDum You have refuted nothing. From your perspective, you actually think a child decided it would be fun to imagine getting stuck at school, coming home, getting ambushed by someone he didn't like, having them force themselves over for a "party" he didn't want to atttend and preemptively put clothes on the toy? At that point, with that logic who's to say he even has a toy!? He just imagined it! Suzy might not be real either if every random thing is just being imagined.

[@McDumDum]

@@BewbsOP haha I like how hard you're going at this maybe google the mst3k mantra

[@ice_queen9]

if i were there my reaction would've been the same as woolie's lol. like come on, it's calvin and hobbes and you're squarely in the age demographic

[@theawkwardpotato264]

Yeah Pat's distinct lack of a part of humanity is disturbing sometimes, but I understand that it's not his fault. I really feel bad that he just straight up is missing that part of himself that other people have.

[@GoodlyPenguin]

Absolutely fucking insane that you can literally see Pat's face when he realizes what the crux of the comic strip was.

[@blarghchan]

To be fair, there are a LOT of C&H strips where toy Hobbes is never shown, and at least like a third where Hobbes doesn't show up at all.

[@crimsonharvest]

'heres my imaginary friend' is maybe the first play-bow type invitations a kid learns how to make.

[@thewordywarlock7159]

Exactly, those kid's didn't genuinely believe there was another person there - they weren't _blind._ The unspoken implication was "here is a concept that I like to play pretend with, would you like to play pretend with me along these lines?" It's like if a kid invited Pat to play kickball and Pat freaked out and thought they were crazy because he wasnt aware kickball was a game that existed.

[@chompytv8591]

Pat “Imagination is for losers” Boivin.

[@BackwoodSpiritAnimal]

4:28 Woolie's De Niro impression is pretty good