Pat Garrett Murder Site

Billy the Kid Outlaw Gang President Lucas Speer visits the Pat Garrett Murder Site near Las Cruces, New Mexico on July 20, 2010.

[@mlrainesjr]

The decimal coordinates for this marker to view on Google Earth is 32.366203, -106.717152

[@ClaytonSensiba]

mlrainesjr oh my gosh thank you so much. I've been looking for this forever. Going to go see it in person today.

[@ClaytonSensiba]

MasterStryfe what map are you using

[@mlrainesjr]

The decimal coordinates were obtained using Google Earth. I just finished checking my coordinates on Google Earth and everything worked just fine. Give it a try there. Good Hunting. Marty

[@mlrainesjr]

The decimal coordinates were obtained using Google Earth. I just finished checking my coordinates on Google Earth and everything worked just fine. Give it a try there. Good Hunting. Marty

[@ClaytonSensiba]

MasterStryfe are you in las cruces? I can take you to the exact spot

[@trishpeile4148]

I was wondering exactly what road to go off of to find the site? I live 4 miles away from the sign on the east mesa

[@1894ron]

Great video. I love the old west history and reading about cowboy's and Indians!

[@jroar123]

I am John Parrish Garrett and related to Pat Garrett. Thanks for sharing this video.

[@ettaplace6716]

Thank you for bringing this to us !! I also adore the history of the old west and it’s flamboyant characters😬!

[@mike-xt5ce]

no matter what. still. don't think he killed billy the kid

[@olympiasbc]

I am the great grand daughter of Carl Adamson and Amanda Clements Adamson. Carl died long before I was born and Amanda never would say who killed Pat. What she did say is that Brazel took the fall because he was single. I and many in the family accept the version (though it has been called far-fetched), that Killing Jim Miller (a cousin of Amanda) was the actual shooter. Money has been traced from Adamson to Miller in El Paso where a secret meeting took place. Miller was a gun for hire.

[@secondcomingofbast9908]

That is very damned interesting. You should pursue that with a professional historian and geneologist. Seriously, I know it's been four years since you posted this, but assuming you haven't learned anything yet to the contrary, you may have an important historical contribution to make here. There's a potential movie in Pat Garrett's life that's been far too long ignored, and your story could play a pivotal part in it

[@olympiasbc]

Interesting idea. It would be nice if the real history of Garrett and others were portrayed. Pat's death was only part of a bigger history of the region. Not sure who to talk, but thank you for your suggestion.

[@danjennings2719]

@@secondcomingofbast9908 775

[@sharonw2475]

If Adamson and Miller had a secret meeting in El Paso then how come everyone knows about it, then and now?

[@dks13827]

How far is the hike from your car???

[@paganknight]

Have you been to the Tunstill kill site outside of Hondo? Theres a historic marker on the hiway but the kill site is about 12 miles down an old dirt road. Gotta have someone whos been there before show you where its at because its pretty hard to stumble upon but well wortth the journey to locate it. I know a guy in ruidoso who can show you if you want to put up a video of it.

[@nucleardiver1]

I've been to this site several times. It is where my great grandfather died. Pat Garrett was my great grandfather and while some people say he was a coward because of speculation that he shot Billy in the back, you still have to consider some of the outlaws he was tasked with bringing to justice.

[@watchgoose]

everything I've read over decades of time said he shot Billy in the chest. I just didn't understand why, as they were friends and Pat could have re-arrested Billy and taken him back to jail.

[@Lkdhhabv]

⁠@@watchgoosehe was wanted dead or alive at this point. And was considered extremely dangerous.

[@jackillin]

Damn it...I was all over New Mexico basically following the story of Billy The Kid and went everywhere..I desperately tried to find this spot but it eluded me!! I was walking in desert and in parking lots and everywhere in between....I was prob near here but just couldn't;t find it and wasn't willing to wander any farther on my own. Thanks for this though...next time I visit I can fulfil my Billy The Kid obsession. hehehe (I live in Hong Kong by the way so it was a really great adventure in a wonderful state!) I found the real Tunstall murder site though! What a hike through the bush!

[@aeroflyer4301]

jackillin jack hey you were in Picacho NM last week? so was I. I flew my drone all over those mountains behind the site. how far away from the highway sign is the actual tunstall death site, and how did you find it?

[@jackillin]

It's quite a way....farther away than I thought. I'll try send u a PM with the info.

[@jackillin]

Can't seem to DM you on YT. Maybe try DM me & see if I can reply. It's only accessible by driving through private land so I don't really want to put it out in public. Just a note, while u will be able to film the surrounding area...I doubt you'd be able to see the site it's self by drone as it's in a tree covered area.

[@aeroflyer4301]

agreed totally I w keep playing with the browser the dm's went away or may be gone... or it may be my ipad not sure. thanks for response ill possibly go try off an older unupdated ipad. I spent tons of time in cruces im from animas. cruces was where we had to go to find the nearest mall/jerry's pet store circa 1988 lol thanks tons.

[@shawnkirby6201]

I love the story and legends. Pretty cool you came that far and did all that. Hats off to ya. I live 7 hours away and only been once. I work a lot. But cool story. Props😉

[@Mr.56Goldtop]

That you for sharing! This is really cool! You said it's a long hike to the spot? From the hi way?

[@TexasTrails]

thank you for sharing!

[@LucasSpeer2023]

Garrett shot him in a darkened bedroom, but by all accounts that I have read he shot him in the region of his heart and in the front. Could someone please quote a source for the back shooting version? Thanks!

[@brianwolle2509]

hes saying garrett was shot in the back not the kid.

[@bertlambert3817]

Thanks Lucas...good to know ..appreciate it.

[@dannyfubar3099]

Outstanding Post, I appreciate it very much.

[@clayhamric4912]

Actually, cool interesting video but you really need a noised canceling microphone for future videos I am aware it is windy In NM

[@ontherunplmr1218]

Very Interesting would love to visit one day from the UK looks like it needs a four wheel drive SUV to visit this track ? how far off the highway would this be ? Take care out there during these Covid days

[@rga1958]

How do you get to this site?

[@vikmenace1]

I don't live far from it how do I get there

[@dingusmcguffin7978]

It’s Amazing how much history is in our Great Little City of Las Cruces!

[@swann62]

thanks for posting

[@frankfordification]

How's about Oliver Lee. He tried his old standard shoot em first ask questions later on Lee and got his posse shot to pieces with one deputy getting his balls blown off. Oliver Lee was a Deputy U.S. Marshal and a prominent rancher who served in the New Mexico legislature and is considered to be the father of New Mexico's highway system. When Garrett made noises about reopening the Fountain case he got dead real quick!

[@cosmicmariner6621]

Thank you for the post. From the movie Unforgiven... "They had it comin', they had it comin' for what they did!"

[@mitchellwoodham28]

Thanks for sharing.

[@blake8580]

So I don’t know much about this Pat Garett guy. Just stumbled upon this as I was zoning out on here trying to clear my head from work. Anyway....how is it a mystery a man plead guilty? There is no reason to plead guilty if ya didn’t do it right? Just wondering

[@untejano12]

I wonder if the guy who found the Roswell N.M. "U.F.O". crash site is related to Wayne Brazel. His name was Mac Brazel and he too was a goat rancher.....?

[@sundownsigns]

+untejano12 I believe that Mac was a great nephew of Wayne Brazel. They were certainly in the same family.

[@secondcomingofbast9908]

Very possibly at least a distant relarion, I would guess

[@dionknight1108]

thats what i thought same location there family was involved in 2 important pieces of history 1908 an 1947

[@computerwizard1959]

What happened to the guy who claimed to do the killing?

[@JEBEmpires]

A cool video of the actual site. Thanks a ton!

[@gilbertrios5283]

Very interesting I did not know this! Thank you for sharing this, this is in Oregon you said? Looks like the West indeed!

[@michaelsaunders13]

Organ mountains, NM not the state of Oregon

[@nucleardiver1]

For all the people that say that Pat was a coward for what he "supposedly" did to The Kid let me ask this. Pat was a coward for supposedly shooting The Kid in the back, so what does that make The Kid? He shot many, many more people than Pat ever did and quite a few of those people were innocent citizens, killed for their horses or money. And yes quite a few of them were shot in the back. Now go ponder that........

[@joshuabacon4564]

first Pat Garrett didn't kill the Kid I have proof look at my Billy the Kid photo Billy had tattoos on his face and Brushy Bill had the same markings you can only see it if you change the color of the pictures so Pat Garrett was a fraud

[@Olds79Starfire]

Joshua Bacon, you replied to a comment 3 years old, dipshit.

[@donnajackson2907]

That is not true. Billy only actually killed 5 people, and most of those were in self defense. He was accused of killing a great many people, thst he had no involvement with, whatsoever. There are 100s of stories about the kid, but most b of them were pure bs. Also. He never shot ANYONE in the back. You should do a little better research.

[@godsbeast.69]

@@donnajackson2907 correct. And Brushy was also known as Alias Brushy the Bull Shitter

[@chrisb8655]

@@godsbeast.69 Lol...I never heard that. Funny & true.

[@charlestown4331]

I was driving from Alamogordo thru Organ pass years ago and had to pee like crazy. I took a left over the hill in my 4x4 toyota and drove up a old utility road. I stopped the truck and jumped out to pee, beautiful view down the hill and in the canyon. I looked on the ground next to me and the was a survey marker in the ground with concrete around it. It said that was where Pat was killed..That's not the spot..

[@11jee11]

Hey dope. Did you listen to what the guy said in the video? Your spot is not the spot.

[@51alyssamilano]

why is this place hard to get to ????

[@arianaespinosa2410]

+51alyssamilano go on google earth and it will show how its far out

[@nicks5040]

So we're related?

[@nickt1984]

Thats pretty crazy. I'm a descendant of Pat Garret. He's my 4X great uncle

[@barneyporter6138]

Well Pat Garrett did have a lot of relatives I don't know how these people can call him a coward it was just a good citizen doing this job perhaps we're related also at least in Alabama and Mississippi we had 14 bands of the Garrett Family from Alabama and Mississippi that was before Pat Garrett was born!

[@David-sk9vv]

@@barneyporter6138 A good citizen doesn't do it for the money, nor to make a name for themselves. If Billy hadn't existed, Pat would be nothing.

[@edsuggs6527]

Who shot pat garrett

[@grifce]

The court records say Pat Garrett drew his sawed off shotgun the rancher shot him in self defense. Yea Pat was shot in the chest with one gun shot in the back of the head There is also a record of another mistery rider that road up and said somebody needs to go get the sheriff. But was never seen after.

[@sethguest781]

Yep, heard that he was riding through the area in a buggy with his wife, he unboarded to use the bathroom, while he was doing that, someone quietly came from behind and shot him right in the back!

[@SandyzSerious]

Thank you.

[@mssmith3604]

Try it again on a day when the wind doesn't wipe out your microphone.

[@GawgaCracka]

Cool video bud, thanx for sharing...ironic that Pat supposedly shot Billy n the back only to fall to the same fate himself later on in life. With freinds like that...

[@watchgoose]

how could Pat have shot Billy in the back if all the stories agree that Billy was coming IN the door asking "who's there?" when Pat fired?

[@miguellarquier8890]

How does it feel to have bloodlines from a coward who shoots a very good friend in the back?

[@emoeya]

Only a piece of concrete and stones as a marker for a great lawman! It's a shame! Maybe it's the price you must pay for all the killing you made back in 1880 and 1881 but we all know these were hard times and some men were only living by the gun... As Billy said "it was a game of two..." Anyway RIP sheriff Garrett and RIP Tom, Charly and Billy. Sooner or later we'll all ride the same trail...

[@thebrooniecatcher3667]

Nice piece of Wild West history 👍

[@wendywhite4537]

Thanks for sharing, but I think Garrett was a coward

[@HardestTargett]

Do more research.

[@wendywhite4537]

@@songofthesouth5872 History is written by the victor. So how much is true and how much is not? I have listened to my family history and take it with a grain of salt. It’s the same with everyone. Whether you believe my opinion or not it doesn’t matter to me. However it is interesting that because my opinion didn’t match yours you attacked

[@harryschlonge5762]

Wayne brazel, was related to Mac brazel (decedent) who found the roswell ufo debris field in Lincoln county new Mexico just outside Chaves. You may ask odd history relation but truth. Back then the brazen family like most wealth Anglo families were who owned ranches owned A LOT OF land thus why places in southern NM have places named after the original land owners. The brazel family use to own land from Chaves into Lincoln County and it was pretty big.

[@edwinthompson6510]

The history of the wild wild west most is fiction people in the East liked to read about their heroes whoever they were??? Wyatt Earp was a lawman who used his position to enhance his private income... My Grandfather and Great-uncle Orlando went into joint ownership with Wyatt Earp to run a saloon in Nome Alaska during the Great Alaskan Gold Rush it was a time of kill or be killed the law was virtually none existent my grandad he killed a few men up in Alaska he was later to become a lawman as well as a Preacher man.. America was carved out by these pioneers in a relatively short time in history.. Lawmen Cowboys n Indians Railroads .. Motor cars World Wars all in 150 years .. no other country has advanced so quickly in such a short time ... God Bless America Lucas Spee thanks for your posting ...................E.J.T ...........Ed

[@irvingklaw57]

Garrett's house was knocked down several years ago... What a shame...

[@anthonyrowe7805]

Did Billy really die AND could Billy have been Pats killer???

[@brianwolle2509]

shoot billy in the back? how would he know it was him?

[@emsgems1973]

Patrick Garrett grave yard is in roswell next to his daughter Elizabeth

[@winkie51]

garrett family grave site is in Las Cruces at Masonic Cemetery off of Compress St.

[@emsgems1973]

​@winkie51 I can show the grave it's right next to his daughter Elizabeth who was blind and wrote the new mexico national song. I can even show her house a friend owns it.

[@nicks5040]

I'm somewhat related to him. Not sure exactly how.

[@cashnbooze]

Watch the video "Billy the Kid unmasked". Pretty interesting.

[@davidriggs1440]

Awesome, thank you for sharing 👍 🇺🇸

[@gb6710]

Hankin'? What the fuck is "hankin'?" And in what world did any of what you just post makes sense?

[@Nimgimmer1492]

Amazing . . . the folks posting here who knew Garrett or actually witnessed his killing of Billy the Kid.

[@brianwolle2509]

thanks

[@Hellraiza804]

Garrett was a coward, what goes around comes around. He shot somebody from behind, and years later somebody came back and shot him from behind.

[@SportTracKing]

I honestly don't care much for Pat Garret in my opinion he was a cold blooded murderer who became famous for shooting billy the kid in the dark instead of identifying himself as a lawman or trying to detain the kid he just shot him in cold blood

[@brandonherman426]

Nah, brushy bill was the kid, garrett was a fraud

[@buckwild6552]

Mark Cervantez Maybe Brushy Bill (aka Billy the kid ) did it to keep him from revealing, he didn't really kill the kid. And if he did kill his supposedly friend, then karma is a bitch, you shoot a friend in the back you get one to the head. Outlaw Lives Matter especially when they are fighting corrupt, rich politicians and low life farm stealing sonsabitches

[@jackillin]

Pat Garrett killed a fellow buffalo hunter named Joe Briscoe long before he was a law man. He was no better than any of the other frontier men of the day. Most of the elected sheriffs had blood on their hands before taking office...didn't mean they weren't criminals in their own right.

[@sidneygibson1023]

I guess Garrett was fed up with the Kid and was under pressure to eliminate him so did what he did in the way that he did, no chances taken to achieve end result. he didn`t want to give the Kid any chance to kill him either. So many Old West gunmen/Lawmen died in the same manner that they became famed names for, not in the way Hollywood puts it over either,

[@ronniebishop2496]

SportTracKing 1997 The same way they shot Bonnie and Clyde. When you're dealing with a dangerous person nobody knows what they will do. Most on here criticizing Pat wouldn't have been there in the first place. They don't have the guts except in their mouths.

[@alvabuckridge9893]

thanks for the historical lesson useing utub for meaningful perpose

[@thedutchman3929]

Very cool Thanks for sharing this video

[@williamrichardson2344]

yep this is the actual site ...awesome ...went and seen it myself while in NM..went to Tombstone also ...best vacation ever ..

[@jesselambert4968]

Thanks for making that. It doesn't matter if he sucked or not it's still a interesting bit of history. I would have brought a metal detector though and looked for the bullets lol. Also were there insulators on those old utility poles? They could be worth a some money...

[@silverwheelspatriot1764]

He was my mothers great-uncle

[@robertnelson4821]

No...thank you sir

[@mikegrunden9605]

That was neat. Thanks for sharing

[@pimentafilmes1480]

Pagou com a mesma moeda!

[@Weissmenchland]

Wow. Very neat.

[@blackwatersf2368]

Great vid

[@nucleardiver1]

I suppose so

[@ronniebishop2496]

Thank you. I like history too especially western history. That is a desert.

[@jehovahuponyou]

OLE PAT A PAT ONLY BEEN DEAD SINCE 1908, I BET THOUGH, WHEN HE READS YO POST, HE GONNA COME KICK YO HISTORY HANKIN' ASS!

[@saignez]

Pat garrett is a coward and traitor , why he did do it from the front ?

[@grifce]

It was ruled in self defense

[@mr.j1400]

He shot Billy in the back and then he gets shot in back Real bunch of Tough guys

[@jcfra420]

Karma is a bitch.

[@sandrahollingsworth2965]

Love old west,how amusing Pat got it in the back as he did Billy the Kid.Wonder if ole Pat,regretted his traitor ways

[@martbreland1265]

brushy bill did it aka billy the kid

[@taylormitchell8636]

Lies !

[@mikemckay2927]

im related to Pat Garrett.

[@3023301]

related to a lying coward good for you!

[@robertsickler4294]

Sucks to be you

[@georgewithrow5668]

I am Pat Garretts brother. I am George Garrett. I am only 110 years old lol

[@godsbeast.69]

Reap what you sow. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander

[@reneg1366]

What goes around, comes around, he got it just like he gave it to Billy, very cowardly 🙄

[@jalenjose3905]

Don't worry he also was a crook.

[@robertrusnak620]

That’s what you get for killing the kid! 👍☠️👍