Las Vegas man has 2nd-ever authenticated picture of Billy the Kid

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@eddieavakian
@eddieavakian 2 жыл бұрын
If it’s the same photographer it would explain why the poses are similar but these two guys don’t look much alike.
@jamesconnors4297
@jamesconnors4297 7 ай бұрын
don't think this is the kid.the hands look too large to slip hand cuffs over
@yeyosilver7067
@yeyosilver7067 4 ай бұрын
They LOOK much alike
@cincyfanjunglecity9871
@cincyfanjunglecity9871 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesconnors4297well sorry to say , but it’s not much what you say it is or it’s not. The professionals seem to say it is , and they have the tools to prove it.
@cockedandlocked9765
@cockedandlocked9765 3 ай бұрын
Your word or her expert opinion? Hmmm
@Skinnyfish09
@Skinnyfish09 2 ай бұрын
@@cincyfanjunglecity9871One “professional “ said she believes it’s him but that doesn’t mean it is. She also said they have matching teeth but the new photo isn’t showing any teeth! They are similar but look closer and there are more differences that need addressing such as his ears are different in every way visible, his shape face is different, his eyebrows are almost non existent in the new photo. His eyes are not a full match. The ring they suggest is the same is clearly a different style of ring. The photo of Billy has a charisma the new photo has none. It could be him but it’s really unlikely and it needs a lot of different professionals to all agree before it can be agreed upon, not just one.
@justsaying3594
@justsaying3594 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this woman isn't testifying in court cases. These two pictures look nothing alike.
@johnwright291
@johnwright291 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree.
@worldpeace4231
@worldpeace4231 2 жыл бұрын
uhh..yea they do
@new_kingdom8679
@new_kingdom8679 2 жыл бұрын
Billy did Not look sober in the original photo.
@rosemoreno2817
@rosemoreno2817 Жыл бұрын
FR that's what I said it doesn't take an expert to see they look nothing alike!!!😂🤦‍♂️
@lassesuurmunne8340
@lassesuurmunne8340 Жыл бұрын
@@worldpeace4231the ears are a different shape
@RJGould
@RJGould 7 жыл бұрын
Why I could never trust 'eye-witness' testimony.. People are ridiculous!
@sniper10666
@sniper10666 3 жыл бұрын
If your a fugitive you wouldn’t want your picture plastered all over New Mexico would you. Hence why it’s so hard to find a picture of billy the kid,and who’s to say that the tin lid picture is actually billy the kid
@surfclimbcycle
@surfclimbcycle 5 жыл бұрын
Is he gonna sell it? Nope. Guess why - nobody would buy it. If that's Billy the Kid, I'm Wyatt Earl.
@Jammin6796
@Jammin6796 2 жыл бұрын
either he lost a bunch of weight as he got older or this is not him... look at the distance from his nose to his side cheeks.. way different.. and how "long" in the face billy is.. the new photos does not have that effect... the only match is the ring and thats about a 50/50 guess..
@t.b.8837
@t.b.8837 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what's sillier. The video, or the staggering number of photograph analysis experts in the comments.
@lassesuurmunne8340
@lassesuurmunne8340 3 жыл бұрын
These are interesting. There are some similarities but the ears are very different and the real Billy’s boots are smaller in size and Billy’s hands look smaller. Cool photo, I love this stuff, and I’m no expert but I don’t personally believe it’s Bonney. Especially looking at the ears, they look a lot different.
@marthawoodworth4380
@marthawoodworth4380 3 жыл бұрын
The only things that make it possible are that the ring is on the same finger and the teeth are slightly protruding. The problem for me is that Billy was always skinny and did not wear rumpled, mature clothing. This person is a little "dumpy." Billy was a slender, wiry reed of a kid, with an attitude.
@untejano1231
@untejano1231 Жыл бұрын
The pinky ring is not on the same hand because Billy’s photo was discovered that the negative was reversed, unless they’re both reversed?
@SeanMeds
@SeanMeds 7 жыл бұрын
doesnt even look-a-like
@miguelfierro5461
@miguelfierro5461 5 жыл бұрын
Same teeth?? you can't even see the other guys teeth. the more preposterous claims like this I'm subjected to.....the more faith I lose in "facial recognition" But hey, can't ignore that pinky ring...What a load of crap.
@johnwayne3331
@johnwayne3331 7 жыл бұрын
they did look very alike could have been the kid just before the Lincoln co war started John Tunstall probley bout him the suit to smarting him up if he wasn't doing ranch work maybe he was working in the store and his mouth is closed but u can see the fela is also buck toothed the guy who said about his clothes date from 1880s to 1890s is he sure I no billy was killed in 1881 it could be if so it will be the 3rd photo of the kid they said the one were he playing croket wasn't him to but it got authenticated exciting times
@Road_Rash
@Road_Rash 3 жыл бұрын
I've been a portrait artist for nearly 30 years & have looked at tons of bad photos to try to get a decent likeness of people, this doesn't make me a forensics expert in any way, I've just had a bit of experience looking at bad photography, I also understand that people can look slightly different in photos depending on several factors, lighting, pose, length of time between photos, etc...that being said, I'm not seeing much resemblance between the two people in these photos at all other than the pose...I think the examiner, while no doubt having extensive experience in her field, was just ready to believe this photo was of the same person & let her imagination take over...I don't think this is the same person...interesting old photo, but doesn't match in my opinion...
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 3 жыл бұрын
The pose is the same coz most tintype poses are like that. Basically a rod up the back. You can see the feet of the post behind both subjects feet. It kept them still during the long exposure time needed for tintype.
@andysteele5707
@andysteele5707 2 жыл бұрын
As a photographer and professional studio portrait photographer for years, i have to say you pose your subject. The pose is most likely going to be photographers choice not billys or whoever that is. If it is billy and as it says the same photographer then that makes sense for the similar pose.
@rosemoreno2817
@rosemoreno2817 Жыл бұрын
Yea their features look nothing alike I think you said it right she just let her imagination take over!!
@laurashropshire57
@laurashropshire57 2 жыл бұрын
It's all in the eyebrows. Billy had has some dark and really rocking eyebrows that stand out even on the little tin type. If you can't see the eyebrows, it's probably not him.
@Outlaw4640
@Outlaw4640 7 жыл бұрын
nope not billy the kid. face doesn't match at all.
@johnwayne3331
@johnwayne3331 5 жыл бұрын
Ye it doas i think its him
@micjoseph6250
@micjoseph6250 5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't match shit . It seems all these pictures that no one found for 140 years are coming outta the wood work . I wonder if 5 million and 2 million for the two only known pictures of Billy had Any thing to do with that?
@TheSpaghetti64
@TheSpaghetti64 3 жыл бұрын
His teeth aren't even showing in the photo of the guy in a suit, he weighs a good 30 pounds more and the eye brows are not the same. NOPE!
@noahcorreiaphotography
@noahcorreiaphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Have these people heard of the word provenance?!?!
@elchoya100
@elchoya100 7 жыл бұрын
damn,billy must have been the only teenager in the west to have his own personal photographer.he is everywhere posing like movie star.
@Thekandithompson
@Thekandithompson 6 жыл бұрын
elchoya100 😂😂
@savagesooner4891
@savagesooner4891 5 жыл бұрын
Dude was 21 at time of death... still a “kid” nonetheless
@amanzidinkles1037
@amanzidinkles1037 5 жыл бұрын
@@savagesooner4891 Middle-aged for the 1800s.
@aarontaylor1484
@aarontaylor1484 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure he had money he was a rustler and held up a few folks I'm sure. Not saying he was evil but his line of work did bring funds
@bradmeeds1226
@bradmeeds1226 5 жыл бұрын
@@savagesooner4891 alot of these photos he would've been in his teens
@nathanadrian7797
@nathanadrian7797 10 ай бұрын
The one of Billy in cowboy garb is flipped! The rifle is a Winchester, which has the loading gate on the right side, but the Winchester in Billy's hand has the loading gate on the left side which means the picture has been flipped, it is a mirror image and not a picture. Matching other pictures only works if they are also flipped.
@scottarivett496
@scottarivett496 3 ай бұрын
If the other photo is a tin type it’s reversed as well. Any camera original tin type is a reverse lateral image, same thing as a mirror image. The photographic process caused this in tin types. Billy was indeed wrongly accessed as left handed because of the reversed image. Kind of amazing that it went unnoticed for so many years in one of the most famous and widely viewed photos in history.
@nathanadrian7797
@nathanadrian7797 3 ай бұрын
@@scottarivett496 If you are correct, then why are all the other old photographs correct, ie loading gates on the correct side, peace makers not backward?
@markosterman419
@markosterman419 2 ай бұрын
Not all antique photographs are tintypes. If it’s a paper photograph it was made with a negative and corrected when printing … just like all negative / positive processes.
@Last_Chance.
@Last_Chance. 2 ай бұрын
Obviously
@gene6597
@gene6597 3 жыл бұрын
Oh goodness, the eyebrows are always a give away. Not the same person.
@nick-un9pk
@nick-un9pk 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Eyebrows never change.
@BlackbirdSpecOps
@BlackbirdSpecOps 3 жыл бұрын
@Victor Bastos no, he didn’t have Chinese cut eyes. When his photo was taken, it was outside in front of the bar and it was windy. He was squinting his eyes. Look at the right lapel on his vest and his wild rag. The lapel is turned up and the wild rag is blurry from movement.
@Carlitosway2369
@Carlitosway2369 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackbirdSpecOps They’re talking about the eyebrows not eyes. Eyebrow and eyes and two completely separate things
@bobshelton9049
@bobshelton9049 2 жыл бұрын
@@nick-un9pk yes they can.
@Outlaw-Josey-Wales
@Outlaw-Josey-Wales 3 жыл бұрын
The guy says he's going to keep it cuz it's an heirloom then his dumb grandkid grabs it sells it to a pawn shop for 50 bucks these things go
@jakkfamily61
@jakkfamily61 3 жыл бұрын
Are we lookin at the same thing here? They look nothing alike. I think LL Cool J and Michelle Obama have a stronger resemblance.
@KurtOnoIR
@KurtOnoIR 6 жыл бұрын
I think that's not him but there is another picture of him tho where he is playing croket with Sally chisim and some of the other regulators.
@R.E.M.954
@R.E.M.954 5 жыл бұрын
That croquet picture was appraised at 5million dollars.That's pretty authenticated to me.I'm convinced.
@12dbuck1
@12dbuck1 5 жыл бұрын
@@R.E.M.954 Most Billy savants dispute the idea that the croquet kid is Billy. Also, the purported New Mexico location of the tintype has since been debunked. Not surprisingly, the image never sold.
@cjlloyd53
@cjlloyd53 7 жыл бұрын
The mouth is closed in the second pic so how can you match the dentition? The jaw line, eyes, brows and ear lobes are also different. Not convinced at all.
@timjordan6551
@timjordan6551 5 жыл бұрын
I was thing the same thing.
@12dbuck1
@12dbuck1 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. The teeth on the DeAragon image are not visible. The so called "forensic heavyweight" Louis Gibson is blowing smoke. Also, not that it matters but the DeAragon youth looks nothing like Billy the Kid.
@justintruckell6506
@justintruckell6506 5 жыл бұрын
how many wear a ring on their pinkie though?
@antoniograncino3506
@antoniograncino3506 5 жыл бұрын
Agree on all points. Let us not forget also that the photo with guns is a reversed image, giving rise to the myth that the Kid was left-handed. Look at the bullet port on the Winchester rifle: in the photo the port is on the left [ as you hold it for shooting] side of the breech. Winchester never made the rifle in that configuration; the port was always on the right side.
@tomfuller4205
@tomfuller4205 4 жыл бұрын
@@antoniograncino3506 Wrong, Winchester did make a few left handed 1871s to special order, so if this is a left handed 1871 the question is how did Billy get it?
@shawnirwin6633
@shawnirwin6633 3 жыл бұрын
As an artist, nope, not at all, the eyes and ears are different, easily.
@ElectraGlideInBlue
@ElectraGlideInBlue 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a joke? Looks nothing like him..the teeth match???? This is ridiculous.
@sandvenexplorer
@sandvenexplorer 5 жыл бұрын
The expert has EYES? TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. Just look at the eyes for starters, completely different. The Whole face is different, the body...the pose. This is silly.
@nothing-but-milk9176
@nothing-but-milk9176 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the 5th video I've seen of some random guy with a new billy the kid picture these things are popping up all over.
@marthawoodworth4380
@marthawoodworth4380 3 жыл бұрын
Well, the amazing thing about Billy is that he keeps on livin'! He never "grows old" in the public's mind and he always makes a come-back. In fact, he's the Comeback Kid!
@rodschermerhorn6996
@rodschermerhorn6996 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@dexterlasitor9546
@dexterlasitor9546 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so...😎 Just saying
@CuttingEdgetools
@CuttingEdgetools Жыл бұрын
Close resemblance but nope. Ridiculous the they’re saying the forensic expert says all features match even the teeth ???--The Subject in the supposed photo has his mouth closed- can’t see the teeth!!!!!
@elchoya100
@elchoya100 7 жыл бұрын
i'll give him a quarter for that authentic picture of somebody from the old west,but not billy the kid!
@johnmcmahon8513
@johnmcmahon8513 Ай бұрын
Thats JUST her opinion. She has been offering her opinion as a positive match to some shaky photographs! Caution is advised with her Expertise!
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 4 жыл бұрын
One picture you can see the teeth and one you can't, but for some reason the have the same teeth without seeing it in both pictures.
@barageom
@barageom 7 жыл бұрын
I don't see any resemblance at all. Billy the Kid has a look about him that is unique. In the recently authenticated croquet photo, I immediately knew that was Billy the Kid.
@R.E.M.954
@R.E.M.954 5 жыл бұрын
Not immediately for me but very quickly became convinced.
@bradgaines
@bradgaines 3 жыл бұрын
You can barely make out his face in that pic.
@xelations6002
@xelations6002 3 жыл бұрын
It's not authenticated
@adam100a8
@adam100a8 3 жыл бұрын
The croquet one is not authenticated
@BlackbirdSpecOps
@BlackbirdSpecOps 3 жыл бұрын
Both this one and the croquet are not authenticated. These folks shop around and pay others to give their photo importance but they’ve all been proven false so far. Only one photo that is proven.
@ioccatonyz1
@ioccatonyz1 5 жыл бұрын
Billy looks drunk in the tintype so the eyes won't match. The only match is the ears are similar. Plain to see Billy's tintype has a longer face but age difference could explain that, but NOT to my satisfaction. This is not Billy the Kid, and I question these so-called experts...
@normanhowe4938
@normanhowe4938 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it is go back and look at the mouth. But the shitty part is ,we'll never know.i wish someone would hurry up and invent the time machine. Someone could go back in time find billy and ask him if this is him. And also warn him of Pat's dirty ambush.
@MyRoxy571
@MyRoxy571 3 жыл бұрын
Best reply yet mate
@walterdorsey8935
@walterdorsey8935 3 жыл бұрын
I think it has already been established that Billy the kid was in fact right handed. The photo of him posing with the rifle is reversed, therefore the ring on the finger would be on the opposite hand and If the photos were compared as shown nothing would line up.
@armondk1
@armondk1 7 жыл бұрын
Holly Crap not even close. Especially when you put them side by side. Sorry folks but no cigar for you.....
@katieanderson7871
@katieanderson7871 4 жыл бұрын
Billy the Kid was like the guy with a hundred different faces. He was amazing! I would never have recognized him. 04/20/20
@trayvanderbilt1138
@trayvanderbilt1138 4 жыл бұрын
Sure the picture is appsolute real but not the same person, and how exactly can you tell if there teeth are the same when you can't compare both. Probably brushing Billy Roberts who claimed to be the kid in the forties.
@galaxy-bw4oh
@galaxy-bw4oh 5 жыл бұрын
2men,very different atmosphere, different fashion..... different face... and what about the position of ears ?
@rosemoreno2817
@rosemoreno2817 Жыл бұрын
They look nothing alike thats not the same person. The shape of the jaw line the cheeks are fuller come on i could see the differences off the bat it doesn't take an expert to realize thats not Billy!!!🤦‍♂️
@theBike45
@theBike45 7 жыл бұрын
No evidence that the same photographer took both photos. Rather silly claims being made about two people who don't look anything alike. No evidence.
@au131951
@au131951 4 жыл бұрын
It was known back in the 1960s (some WHBonney eyewitnesses were still alive back then and a lot of his history has been lost;) that Billy enjoyed having his photo taken. There are quite a few floating around out there and likely more handed-down treasures still to be discovered. It's really fun to see them surface. However, in this case, I disagree that the teeth are the same. Billy's front teeth protruded enough that he couldn't close his mouth without either the lip sticking out noticably or part of the front tooth showing. That isn't definitive in this photo. Even though his ears do stick out, his right ear is not the same shape. But there is a family resemblance. I think it's very possible that this is Joe. His hair was darker than Billy's. His gaze is often one of resignation. I've seen it before in photos up for authentication. If somebody comes across photos with similarities to Billy but different enough that "experts" deny verification, bear in mind that it could be Joe. He was a bit ore even featured. More subdued countenance.
@rbkknight7406
@rbkknight7406 2 жыл бұрын
Not Billy but def could be Joseph
@SuperSedingAngeL-yr0
@SuperSedingAngeL-yr0 2 жыл бұрын
" Hey, Joe."
@MrBoryder
@MrBoryder Жыл бұрын
"It was known back in the 1960s (some WHBonney eyewitnesses were still alive back then and a lot of his history has been lost;) that Billy enjoyed having his photo taken. There are quite a few floating around out there and likely more handed-down treasures still to be discovered. It's really fun to see them surface." Oh, really? I've never seen such a quote; please enlighten me as to which of his surviving friends you are referring to and provide the actual quote{s}. If the Kid liked to have his photo taken so much, it's a shame that we only have a single tintype today: the only authenticated image of BTK. Sorry, but the photo this video is about has NOT been authenticated---despite what this video's title (click-bait) proclaims. Pure garbage.
@gmccord1970
@gmccord1970 6 жыл бұрын
Not the kid and I can prove it. The photograph on the right of the authenticated Billy the Kid tintype shows him holding the Winchester rifle in his right hand and his Colt thunderer pistol on his left hip but this is not true because the tintype was reversed which means that Billy is holding the rifle in his left hand which means that he was right handed. Therefore this means that the gamblers ring that Billy wore was technically on his left hand. If you look at the photograph at the on the left you'll see that the gamblers ring is worn on the right hand. Now one could make the claim that the photograph on the left could be a reverse tintype therefore claiming that the gamblers ring was worn on the left hand but then the buttons on the coat would be on the left side as well and male coats simply don't have buttons on the left side they have buttons on the right.
@evocati6523
@evocati6523 3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to hold a rifle in a specific hand just for a picture, that's ridiculous. We'll trust the world famous forensic analyst, but thanks
@evanbach471
@evanbach471 3 жыл бұрын
Dude it's a tin type as well brother
@marthawoodworth4380
@marthawoodworth4380 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, a famous fact about Billy is that he was ambidextrous. That's one of the reasons he was such a great gunslinger. He could shoot with both hands.
@tamasmarcuis4455
@tamasmarcuis4455 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. But he was also meant to be ambidextrous. Such people have a habit over time of being predominantly left handed then right handed. Switching wrist watches and rings accordingly. The condition is a birth defect that also affects the body. The body grows off centre causing the person to lean. The face is often slanted in youth with the nose tilting to one side. There are in extreme cases mental problems and extreme behaviours. But but it can also as the person matures lead to everything kind of levelling out. With the person's face becoming more symmetrical with age. Also settling to use one hand predominantly. The habit of a strange stance remains with an arched spine and dropping arms. If the new picture is Bonny then the photographer has used poising stands to partly correct his stance. You can see the base of the stand right behind the left foot. There is no indication that the know picture was taken with a stand and so shows Bonny's natural stance.
@THExUNFLUSHABLE
@THExUNFLUSHABLE 3 жыл бұрын
Its a reverse tin type aswell you complete tit
@brendanmcdonnell7483
@brendanmcdonnell7483 Жыл бұрын
It seems any picture of any kid from 1800s is Billy bonnie.
@jamespelkey8150
@jamespelkey8150 4 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable!! Every picture is the kid. Does anyone have any integrity, money is the only reason every picture is the kid. And she sacrificed her integrity for money. This picture is NOT THE KID, not in any shape or form
@unhombrelobo
@unhombrelobo 2 жыл бұрын
okay, James Pelkey says it isn't him...so everyone pack their shit, go home, it's not him......
@donicaburley9163
@donicaburley9163 4 жыл бұрын
These two don't look alike at all, billy the kid has slit-like eyes, you can't see his eyelids, not only can you see the other guys eyelids but the socket around them. Besides that everything else is wrong.
@sotony7483
@sotony7483 Жыл бұрын
Yep, Billy the Kid sometimes went around disguised as a Mexican of completely different appearance from himself.
@1372eatapeach
@1372eatapeach 4 жыл бұрын
Those 2 pics are not of the same person. Experts my aahh ,eye
@SharpEdgeStandardOfficial
@SharpEdgeStandardOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone always looks at the wrong and most obvious thing; the face! Look at the relaxed posture of his HANDS! His left thumb has a different "v" angle between the knuckle and tip. This never changes and seen clearly at 1:46. This other fella is NOT the Kid!
@mcwmarion
@mcwmarion Жыл бұрын
Not even close to being the same person good fn god get a clue
@dionknight1108
@dionknight1108 5 жыл бұрын
i think its not him he doesnt look like a killer more like a powder puff look alike, i could show you a picture of my uncle jimmy he looks more like billy the kid than this kid,besides i have read brushy bill roberts own journal he wrote before he passed in hico texas 1950 after reading what he wrote im 100% convinced brushy bill roberts was infact the real kid in 1950 only 3 people were still alive that was involved in the lincoln county war 1878 billy was one jesse evan was another who dobbed him in 1948 and the 3rd unknown evans would not tell there will be alot of people guessing but billy doesnt lie read his journal and find out for yourself
@busterbuster8193
@busterbuster8193 Жыл бұрын
She says same teeth - yet the photo in question does not show teeth. Ridiculous ....
@robmorcette4894
@robmorcette4894 5 жыл бұрын
This looks more like Bushy the kid , the other fake photo . This photo does not look like Billy The Kid to me . Just my opinion
@VisionTheLyricalOne
@VisionTheLyricalOne Жыл бұрын
They look nothing alike🤷🏻‍♂️
@josephsturgis3898
@josephsturgis3898 3 жыл бұрын
The eyebrows of the cowboy Kid are vastly darker than the suited Kid though.Not the Kid! That broad is wrong!
@ScoopDogg
@ScoopDogg 5 жыл бұрын
"The dentition really locks it in for me" is mouth is closed ROFL FBI's finest
@evocati6523
@evocati6523 3 жыл бұрын
you can tell it pushes his lip out in both
@pendragonU
@pendragonU 2 жыл бұрын
under the magnifying glass she can see the very tip of the upper bite under the lip I believe people should concentrate however in the ear fingerprint that remains pretty much same throughout life, regardless size growth.
@12dbuck1
@12dbuck1 5 жыл бұрын
The sky is raining Billy the Kid photos. How did Billy ever have time to be a gunslinger; he spent all his waking hours in a photo studio. These two people, Billy and the lad in the DeAragon image look nothing alike. And the teeth business -- is Lois Gibson pulling our leg? -- the DeAragon lad's teeth are not visible.
@michelleaguirre6382
@michelleaguirre6382 4 жыл бұрын
Theres actually 2 REAL pictures of billy in existence with provenance now. The famous one and the now the one of him playing cards with richard brewer, fred Waite, and Henry Newton Brown
@williejohnkristofferson2898
@williejohnkristofferson2898 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen the picture of him playing cards. Where do I find that? Thanks for your time.
@filipd2910
@filipd2910 3 жыл бұрын
@@williejohnkristofferson2898 search ”Billy the kid playing cards” on the internet and you Will find it
@BlackbirdSpecOps
@BlackbirdSpecOps 3 жыл бұрын
The card playing photo has no provenance so it isn’t authenticated. Just speculation.
@firebird_spleen4190
@firebird_spleen4190 3 жыл бұрын
The same teeth and you can’t see the teeth 🤦🏻
@jojodogface898
@jojodogface898 2 жыл бұрын
Same teeth? ...he's got his mouth closed!
@savagesooner4891
@savagesooner4891 5 жыл бұрын
That’s not Billy the kid, that’s Hugh Mungus from 1969
@wallaceraymon6316
@wallaceraymon6316 4 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely correct. That is definitely old Hugh. I would recognize him anywhere.
@samspaise4332
@samspaise4332 4 жыл бұрын
Nope! Not him... Look at the eyebrows.
@Parnell50
@Parnell50 7 жыл бұрын
One is clearly Brushy Bill Roberts and the other is Billy The Kid.
@R.E.M.954
@R.E.M.954 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@calvinwade985
@calvinwade985 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@evanbach471
@evanbach471 3 жыл бұрын
H@@aa
@RayLawrenceJrMUSIC
@RayLawrenceJrMUSIC 3 жыл бұрын
Wiliam H Roberts is Billy the Kid and Brushy Bill Roberts. The one and the same. Burried in Hico Texas.
@BlackbirdSpecOps
@BlackbirdSpecOps 3 жыл бұрын
@@RayLawrenceJrMUSIC a fake and fraud. Considering Robert’s was born in 1879. Must have been three when he was shot. 🤣🤣🤣
@roscoecrawford6442
@roscoecrawford6442 3 жыл бұрын
Not a chance in hell. Two different people
@bradgaines
@bradgaines 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the "pics" I've seen of The Kid, this one looks the most compelling. He looks about 14-15 here. Same chin, ears, crooked eyes, ring on finger, slanted shoulders and wide mid-section. If you look at the full pic you'll see even his feet are positioned the same. People forget the authenticated pic is distorted. Of course comparing the dentition is a reach. The only thing I can figure she is talking about is Billy had 2 protruding front teeth and the picture in question looks like his upper lip is pushed out a bit. But would I go all-in on it without prominence? Nope. I am about 65% convinced it's him.
@wallaceraymon6316
@wallaceraymon6316 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry folks but you arebeing misledby this production. There is still only one authentic photo of Billy. There are others that are implying but not authentic. Looking at the photo of the latest revelation is simply not Billy. I had a hell of a time getting my Albumen Print of Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest authenticated due to the age of it. the print was taken in 1852 when he was younger and was compared to others taken later. Finally it was identified by the marking of the photographer on the back of the print who took the photo. I dont know if this can be done in with the new photo of Billy. Probably not. It schould be looked at closer though.
@kurtp8833
@kurtp8833 4 жыл бұрын
...and your spelling, spacing, punctuation and grammar should be looked at closer.
@ovanmitt513
@ovanmitt513 6 жыл бұрын
fake
@eugeniotapia6765
@eugeniotapia6765 2 жыл бұрын
Different eyes lady, namely the eyelids !
@christophermullaley1597
@christophermullaley1597 3 жыл бұрын
She says that you can tell by the teeth, but in the second photo his mouth is closed.
@johnwooten8983
@johnwooten8983 3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit ... not even close !
@FacesoftheForgotten
@FacesoftheForgotten 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t look anything like him. Now the croquet picture?…you can see a good resemblance.
@wendellbenedict4793
@wendellbenedict4793 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see a comparison of his photo to a photo of Brushy Bill.
@maryellenshock
@maryellenshock Жыл бұрын
It's already been done, some people say yes - I say no. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the amagintion
@jackiemoon7559
@jackiemoon7559 3 жыл бұрын
Get this shit outta my face,lol.Just like when the History channel came out with that BS documentary claiming this wedding picture was authentic but a KZbinr went in & showed how it was photoshopped because he knew what to look for.There is one so called REAL picture of him & some say that could also be false!?Nobody knew what the Kid really looked like except those who REALLY knew him!Have a blessed day 🙏🏼
@stewartj3407
@stewartj3407 3 жыл бұрын
Well I agree everyone and their mother has a kid photo. But the authentic photo has a rock solid provenance, and it was also authenticated by people that actually knew billy. That one is definitely the real deal.
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 4 жыл бұрын
They have Billy the Kid's Winchester picture so horizontally stretched out it makes him look like he's 300 lbs. He looks more like Billy the Pig and not the Kid.
@BigDaddyJinx
@BigDaddyJinx 4 жыл бұрын
The ring was a clue? I call that into question, especially since they are both on the same hand...despite the tintype being reversed, meaning that the ring would be on the LEFT hand, and not the right, as was shown in the other picture. So same ring, but on different hands for different pics? Yeah, no. Sorry buddy, but that pic you have is decidedly NOT The Kid. If the ring was even mentioned as a clue, it, to me, immediately discredits your claim because anyone that knows anything about the only actual authenticated pic knows the tintype is reversed. Billy was left handed, and the rifle that looks like it'd be in the right hand, is actually in his left hand. The same hand as the ring. The ring in the pic he has is on his right hand. Wrong hand. If the other pic was also a tintype, he'd at least be able to say the ring is a clue because both would be reversed.
@nobodyspecial6513
@nobodyspecial6513 3 жыл бұрын
I believe this photo is a tin type also. Could be wrong but I think that's all they had at the time
@truman5838
@truman5838 6 жыл бұрын
There's 2 or 3 pics of Billy now.
@micjoseph6250
@micjoseph6250 5 жыл бұрын
There's only 2 pictures and the 2nd one is of Billy with Charlie on his wedding day playing Croke on Tunsteels property.
@christbennion632
@christbennion632 4 жыл бұрын
TRU MAN there’s another clear match, but no provenance
@fugeeohu9357
@fugeeohu9357 Жыл бұрын
They don't even say whether it's a tintype or a cabinet card
@Badger285
@Badger285 2 жыл бұрын
Nope
@leebest1a470
@leebest1a470 4 жыл бұрын
Dentition via a closed mouth.
@brutus4013
@brutus4013 2 жыл бұрын
No.
@TheFrogfeeder
@TheFrogfeeder 4 жыл бұрын
Lol of course he ain’t gonna sell it, even he knows nobody in their right mind would give him 50 cents for it. Lol a police sketch artist gonna create provenance out of her opinion and thin air? Theres a guy in New York with a eBay tin type that is 1000x more convincing than this...there’s a video on here
@mr.t6712
@mr.t6712 4 жыл бұрын
Get all the pics side by side and I'll prove to you the picture of the village people will look closer to the real pic. Pics coming along all of a sudden are not even close.
@jimmyjennings4089
@jimmyjennings4089 5 жыл бұрын
Billy the kid is my favorite from the old West, when I was a kid myself I always wanted to be Billy the kid and I always played like I was him and then when I got older I always check out evey video about Billy, I'm just fascinated with Billy the kid just because I feel like he really never wanted to be an outlaw but was forced into it by circumstances beyond his fault but I believe he became very good with a gun and he deserves to be well known anyway I wish they could make a movie about Billy that uses an actor that looks very much like him sense they know what he looked like that would be cool and also make the movie as true to the real story as possible.
@1372eatapeach
@1372eatapeach 4 жыл бұрын
All Billy was doing was taking up for his employer ( he was eventually assassinated ) who was being pushed around by the corrupt leaders of the area
@marthawoodworth4380
@marthawoodworth4380 3 жыл бұрын
Doing that very thing, right now. Some day on Netflix, fingers crossed.
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605
@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 3 жыл бұрын
You never seen young guns or young guns 2? There's no getting better than that. Out dated or not by today's younger generations standards those 2 movies are pretty accurate and Emilio Estaves plays the best Billy the kid by far. If you never watched them movies check them out.
@jimmyjennings4089
@jimmyjennings4089 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamheandheisinorsemen2605 yes i have seen those movies and they are good but emelio Estevez doesn't really look like the picture of the real Billy the Kid on the tin type of him in my opinion id like to see an actor that looks like him even if he's not a well known actor like emelio Estevez although i did luke him un the movie young guns.
@Tom_Van_Zandt
@Tom_Van_Zandt 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyjennings4089 Why do you hate punctuation?
@MrBoryder
@MrBoryder Жыл бұрын
Um . . . no.
@leighhaffner5703
@leighhaffner5703 5 жыл бұрын
The ears...every new-found photo that I have seen that is supposed to be Billy the Kid, the ears don't match! Billy had large ears that faced forward...
@justintruckell6506
@justintruckell6506 5 жыл бұрын
may have been the hat pressing them forward.
@philippet2492
@philippet2492 3 жыл бұрын
Rubbish
@vernonpennington4070
@vernonpennington4070 5 жыл бұрын
That tinny town photo guys took any thing that come along . People of Lincoln County say Billy was not cheap .he bout his friends nice gifts all the time. And his girl friends dresses he would pick them out his self. Hats . Jewelry even Pat Garret got nice wedding gifts for his home and his kids .Billy was loved the Sam by all kids Billy would by big sacks of candy give kids hadfulls .he was a loved by many.👍💔
@andygossard4293
@andygossard4293 3 жыл бұрын
The croquet photo looks pretty close from a distant shot. This doesn't, from a close- in shot.
@ashleywarrick2094
@ashleywarrick2094 3 жыл бұрын
Though the two photos do indeed look different I think the photo could very well be authentic. It looks to me like Henry McCarthy, aka William Bonny, aka Billy the Kid was three or four years younger. Neat!!
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 Жыл бұрын
Oh bullshit.
@joepalooka2145
@joepalooka2145 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's him, maybe not. One forensic artist says it's him, but another could argue the opposite. There's a faint resemblance but not enough to make it a definite Billy, like the famous one.
@paulhayward4383
@paulhayward4383 7 жыл бұрын
They don't look alike
@keepthechange2811
@keepthechange2811 4 жыл бұрын
Looks just like another unauthenticated pic I saw on you tube. Fn provenance
@Vean-ql2yq
@Vean-ql2yq Ай бұрын
I never bought the game of hammer ball photo resembled Billy at all, but this one may be real, it should go to FBI forensics for an up to date analysis. The FBI should do it to contribute to saving something historical, they could work on it in thier spare time,if the owner would relinquish it to them for the time needed.
@markosterman419
@markosterman419 2 ай бұрын
Why do they think they have a picture of Billy the Kid. Like everyone who finds a picture of bearded man thinks they have Lincoln.
@yeyosilver7067
@yeyosilver7067 4 ай бұрын
Same eyes, same nose, same mouth, same ears, SAME RING It's definitely him
@wesleycook7687
@wesleycook7687 Жыл бұрын
Eyes are wrong. Eyebrows don't match either. I don't think this is another "undiscovered" picture of Billy The Kid.
@goodvibes5603
@goodvibes5603 4 ай бұрын
Can’t see the teeth , eyebrows look different, space between them is different.. eyes gotta say look similar. No expert here , just my own opinion.
@stephanwatson7902
@stephanwatson7902 2 жыл бұрын
Yup and this photo looks just like the photos of young Brushy Bill, the guy who had all that evidence that he WAS Billy the Kid. The tintype was distorted, that's why his face looks all long and lopsided
@conorolaf1762
@conorolaf1762 3 жыл бұрын
If that's Billy the Kid then I'm Smokey the Bear.
@alanstackhouse2939
@alanstackhouse2939 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Smokey! lol😂
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