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Pat McAfee Talks Why Most College Coaches Can't Make It In The NFL

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The Pat McAfee Show

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There are certainly coaches who have made the transition, but a long list just couldn't make it work in the NFL
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@a1lewis4
@a1lewis4 3 жыл бұрын
Saban said “the nfl penalizes teams for doing g good by the draft order, I can recruit 10 nfl 1st rounders every year” some coaches are just better in college than pros
@BVBrocks927
@BVBrocks927 3 жыл бұрын
Admitting he cant win if he doesnt have the most elite talent around him at all times
@mopnem
@mopnem 3 жыл бұрын
@@BVBrocks927 EXACTLY. You do have to ask yourself how does one lose with the best players like Alabama has
@roberttammaro7305
@roberttammaro7305 3 жыл бұрын
@@BVBrocks927 which untalented nfl teams do well?
@luishernandez05
@luishernandez05 3 жыл бұрын
But before saban got to Alabama how long was Alabama in the basement as far as winning ? 15- 20 years ?
@DalderR6
@DalderR6 3 жыл бұрын
@@mopnem we’ve lost a total of 6 times in the last 9 years
@bennettprice845
@bennettprice845 3 жыл бұрын
"Jack of all trades, master of none" - some all pro punter
@FecalMatador
@FecalMatador 3 жыл бұрын
@@DesignRhythm the first one fits better tho
@CAPAE
@CAPAE 3 жыл бұрын
@@DesignRhythm And the full phrase advocates being a jack of all trades as opposed to being a master of one.
@jakovbrizic
@jakovbrizic 3 жыл бұрын
@@DesignRhythm jack of all trades, master of none, but better than master of one. Thats the full quote.
@Eric-zs6rd
@Eric-zs6rd 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakovbrizic Is it really? It's actually wrong in real life though. Better to be a master of one if you want to be successful in life.
@discobriscoe5880
@discobriscoe5880 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eric-zs6rd that doesn’t matter. The actual phrase ends ‘...master of none.’ It’s a disparaging comment, not motivational BS
@PeterParkerwon
@PeterParkerwon 3 жыл бұрын
I will never forget when pat took shots at urban meyer as a potential nfl head coach on get up 😆
@JohnSmith-nj9nh
@JohnSmith-nj9nh 3 жыл бұрын
Sauce?
@SlamTheSlammer
@SlamTheSlammer 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-nj9nh right? I need the link
@AbandonedExplained
@AbandonedExplained 3 жыл бұрын
@@SlamTheSlammer he said sauce cmon
@mattkent1570
@mattkent1570 3 жыл бұрын
He would probably fake a heart attack.
@Lukemasonmedia
@Lukemasonmedia 3 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaaa I don’t really want him for the Jags but we keep getting linked to him
@Otis151
@Otis151 3 жыл бұрын
How can Pat be so high and still be so on point when speaking?
@blakethomas6388
@blakethomas6388 3 жыл бұрын
Practice.
@henryjimenez204
@henryjimenez204 3 жыл бұрын
He smokes before the show?
@coldwatercrazy
@coldwatercrazy 3 жыл бұрын
@@henryjimenez204 before, during, after
@turdinator298
@turdinator298 3 жыл бұрын
Does he actually blaze before the show
@dansanchez5305
@dansanchez5305 3 жыл бұрын
Adderal
@loganmoreau7569
@loganmoreau7569 3 жыл бұрын
Simple: They realize they actually have to have a defense.
@malcolmbrown5331
@malcolmbrown5331 3 жыл бұрын
The college HCs have a hard time maximizing the expertise of the assistant coaches, many of whom have much more NFL experience than the guy that came from college.
@johnbush5347
@johnbush5347 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually the offenses in NFL is much different then college offenses
@hihihihihello
@hihihihihello 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbush5347 so wouldn't the defenses be different to deal with them? Lel.
@hihihihihello
@hihihihihello 3 жыл бұрын
You're both right
@hihihihihello
@hihihihihello 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference is when a NFL coach wants something out of a player, he suggests and asks. But if a college coach wants something out of a player-he just demands it and the kid says ok because the coach is jesus to him, he controls his future, so the kid listens and responds with effort. I just signed a deal for 39 million I'm not really going to take it serious if you say you want more production out of me 3 weeks into the season.
@1patrickryan
@1patrickryan 3 жыл бұрын
Chip Kelly is the case study of how not to transition to the NFL, take full GM control and trade beloved players while pushing away new ones (Frank Gore), attempt to sell everything for your old QB, implement your old scheme that doesn’t suit your personnel at all etc.
@thenation1575
@thenation1575 3 жыл бұрын
Bill O'Brien or Matt Patricia? Lmao
@daniell5740
@daniell5740 3 жыл бұрын
Because of Kelly, eagles won a ring lol and he took them to the playoffs
@chrissimon3790
@chrissimon3790 3 жыл бұрын
@@daniell5740 because of frank reich the eagles won a ring lol
@daniell5740
@daniell5740 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrissimon3790 lmao no
@zyzzlivesinallofus7531
@zyzzlivesinallofus7531 2 жыл бұрын
We got a new case study and he makes chip look like a genius 🤣🤣
@cody5012
@cody5012 3 жыл бұрын
Pete Carroll has been the only coach to make a great transition to the NFL. He came in to a mediocre Seahawks organization, then he got Russell Wilson, built a defense, a culture, and made the Seahawks into what they are now.
@willscoleman7998
@willscoleman7998 3 жыл бұрын
Him and Jimmy Johnson
@FecalMatador
@FecalMatador 3 жыл бұрын
Even without Russ, he still got his team into the playoffs when the NFC West was dogshit, and got a victory over the defending Super Bowl Champions, the Saints, at the time.
@dudeman5166
@dudeman5166 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Harbough
@cody5012
@cody5012 3 жыл бұрын
@@St3v3Bob when he started coaching the Seahawks, he didn't have Wilson. The Seahawks were terrible before he got there, and his first year took them to the playoffs and beat the Saints. He got Russell Wilson his 3rd year, but don't act like Wilson made him a good coach. He was already a good coach and he was just able to bring out the best development in Wilson and set him up for success with all the roster moves he made to create a good team around him.
@kujon1968
@kujon1968 3 жыл бұрын
@@St3v3Bob He took Patriots to the playoffs twice but was fired after year 3. Coached the Jets one year and went 6-10 before going to NE. So before Seattle 4 years, 2 playoffs, 33w, 31 losses and 2 playoff appearances with one playoff win. In my opinion that didn't suck.
@jamesjuba3203
@jamesjuba3203 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, they still love the hell outta you here in Morgantown.
@jasonghering4389
@jasonghering4389 3 жыл бұрын
I just moved from the outskirts of Fairmont. I tell u you west Virginia loves its sports. I wish I lived there when Pat was in college. I would've def tried to have a beer with him. He is a true man's man.
@nickcustodi592
@nickcustodi592 3 жыл бұрын
Ah Morgantown, where young adults go to disappoint their parents on weekends/weeknights. I’m a yankee but went to school down there for two years. Some of the craziest nights of my life hahahahaha
@MV12267
@MV12267 3 жыл бұрын
Morgantown is nothing like ot was 2009-2011. Gordon gee tamed it. Back in those days it was way more wilder, Arnold hall had beer openers on the doors.
@buckwildsrq
@buckwildsrq 3 жыл бұрын
As a bucs fan I had to endure schiano's horrible coaching for a few years. Having the players dive for the ball while the other team is running a victory formation is just classless.
@milomacdonald4980
@milomacdonald4980 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen rookie QBs or sometimes RBs , think they cab reverse direction and outrun the defense , used to getting away with it in college but in the NFL they are all fast, and close gaps quickly , punching the ball out while they tackle. Even the practice squad is filled with star college players
@stevenygabbyperez695
@stevenygabbyperez695 3 жыл бұрын
College is all about recruiting. In the NFL you actually have to be a good coach.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 3 жыл бұрын
tspawn35 this is a completely inaccurate narrative of the Pete Carroll Seahawks lol
@jasminey9642
@jasminey9642 3 жыл бұрын
@@tspawn35 Nah it was mainly the legion of boom and lynch. There's a reason during the super bowl years Wilson didn't get MVP nods. Most ppl thought the LOB and lynch were carrying the team
@locutusdborg126
@locutusdborg126 3 жыл бұрын
@@tspawn35 Yep.
@thevinceberry
@thevinceberry 3 жыл бұрын
You still need to adapt to your players in NCAA, some coaches are stuck with the same scheme year after year
@ademirsegura6307
@ademirsegura6307 3 жыл бұрын
@@tspawn35 after he sucked with the Jets and Pats
@lukeracke1743
@lukeracke1743 3 жыл бұрын
Collage players need a father figure professionals need a boss
@dudydude3287
@dudydude3287 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Racke Well...they look at it more so as their partner or business acquaintances. They all want each other to succeed, which means they all work together.
@romiarkan450
@romiarkan450 3 жыл бұрын
True but it doesn't give you an excuse to not be empathetic to players.
@patrickgallehugh
@patrickgallehugh 2 жыл бұрын
“collage” lmao
@dcbadger2
@dcbadger2 3 жыл бұрын
Pat talking about the differences between the kids at WVU ("grit") and Michigan is really insightful. Really explains the Dewey Haskins situation well.
@snowmenot
@snowmenot 3 жыл бұрын
Simple reason: In the NFL, every team pays its players
@AWiseOrange
@AWiseOrange 3 жыл бұрын
NCAA don't
@dougyeefresh87
@dougyeefresh87 3 жыл бұрын
In college they can actually coach the players without one of them threatening to sit out.
@joleaneshmoleane8358
@joleaneshmoleane8358 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@joleaneshmoleane8358
@joleaneshmoleane8358 3 жыл бұрын
@@AWiseOrange lol! Riiiiight. Nobody in the NCAA pays players.
@user-mx8rn6tj8h
@user-mx8rn6tj8h 3 жыл бұрын
Collage pays their players too my little brother just graduated high school going to a Big name D-1 on an athletic scholarship...Can’t say names but my little brother is 18 years old driving a 2018 charger and has never worked a day in his life. He was driving my old 1996 carola two months ago.
@quikdeath100
@quikdeath100 3 жыл бұрын
Combination of a lot of things. 1) Coaches don’t get along time to turn things around. For ex. Belichick got fired while he and Saban was in the process of inventing the match defenses that define the defenses today 2) The rules are different. Chip Kelly could never establish his fast pace style of offense because as Saban explained it: ““In the NFL, what they did is the officials stand over the ball until the officials are ready to call the game,” Nick Saban said in 2014 while raising questions about the hyperfast tempo that spread throughout the game in large part due to Kelly’s success with it at Oregon. “The coach at Philadelphia ran 83 plays a game at Oregon, and runs 65 a game in Philadelphia. … The league said, ‘The officials control the pace of the game, not a coach.’” 3) They meet resistance from the front offices and media. Look how long it took for the spread to be readily accepted. It basically took Andy Reid (a proven nfl HC) adopting some of its key principles in KC before it was accepted. 4) Most of the time they get bad teams or teams that need an overhaul.
@jonahklein8582
@jonahklein8582 3 жыл бұрын
As a Michigan fan I wish Rich Rod stayed at West Virginia
@JBell-zd8nf
@JBell-zd8nf 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Dick Rod was awful
@zorddalord5807
@zorddalord5807 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes but what about Rod Rick aka Roddy Rick
@speed4213
@speed4213 3 жыл бұрын
As a Michigan fan I would switch teams lol 😂
@djtrankilo231
@djtrankilo231 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you wish Harbaugh stayed at San Francisco, too
@stephenrosenfelder4452
@stephenrosenfelder4452 3 жыл бұрын
As a UA grad, I wish that, too.
@jamesmarhen
@jamesmarhen 3 жыл бұрын
College football coaches are huge control freaks and once you get to the pros you're very limited in how much you control and cutting or sitting a guy isn't as easy in the pros as it is in college. Also, the adjustment aspect Pat talked about is very important. I taught high school math for 8 years, after that I tutored elementary school students then eventually was an adjunct teacher at a community college. Again, you had to adjust to the different age groups and different environments even when the age groups weren't that vast. Some of the things that make you successful you'll want to keep but you have to adjust and that's why a lot of college coaches, and just people in general, struggle when they move to a situation that's completely different. The sport on the field is the same but the dynamics surrounding it are completely different.
@joemckim1183
@joemckim1183 3 жыл бұрын
Hayden Fox left the Minnesota Wildcats to coach in the pros for the Orlando Breakers and within a few seasons he won the Super Bowl.
@taowgrouch1767
@taowgrouch1767 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a indoor league?
@PandaMike1981
@PandaMike1981 3 жыл бұрын
Minnesota State Screaming Eagles
@BlimpCityFeeder
@BlimpCityFeeder 3 жыл бұрын
Craig T. Johnson was cool.
@cody6685
@cody6685 3 жыл бұрын
I missed Ty. I'm glad he's back.
@chrismas9448
@chrismas9448 3 жыл бұрын
Where was he?
@corymatthews6778
@corymatthews6778 3 жыл бұрын
He was out with colitis
@chrismas9448
@chrismas9448 3 жыл бұрын
@@corymatthews6778 oh darn
@AttilatheThrilla
@AttilatheThrilla 3 жыл бұрын
Pats desk gets messier every episode 😁
@TwinCitiesOutdoors
@TwinCitiesOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
This take by Ty is absolutely uncalled for. Probably sour about MN whooping Iowa in bball this week.
@anonmouse956
@anonmouse956 3 жыл бұрын
The talent levels are so uneven in college its easy for a coach to get overrated. Saban did not get smarter when he left the NFL. His players just got better.
@LunchBox68
@LunchBox68 3 жыл бұрын
I would say his competition got worse instead but same point.
@andrewchapman5659
@andrewchapman5659 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think its fair to judge Sabban by his stint with the Dolphins. He was a solid coach with the talent he had in Miami and then just said its time to jet. Maybe he didnt like the organization or the owner and was like its time to leave. As a Patriot fan and remembering the times, Saban was respected. Dolphins were always bad during that time.
@jeremyhutchings5578
@jeremyhutchings5578 3 жыл бұрын
Big difference in influencing a high school kid to come to your school, mentor them, father figure to them...NFL coaches are dealing with paid athletes that are likely making more $$ than the coach, dealing with over inflated egos. I'm sure that there have been some college coaches that have thrived in the NFL. Right off hand, Jimmy Johnson comes to mind.
@kindleyfernand4389
@kindleyfernand4389 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine Buddy Stephen in the pros.😂😂😂😂
@JabezGill
@JabezGill 3 жыл бұрын
Buddy getting into a fistfight with Ed Hochuli 😂
@denroy3
@denroy3 3 жыл бұрын
Saban was not a failure...he bailed but his record wasn't horrible. The doctors decision to pass on Drew Brees sealed his fate.
@jhndvdbr1
@jhndvdbr1 3 жыл бұрын
Saban hands were tied in NFL. He wasn’t getting to make the big decisions. Owners were. He wanted drew breez and owner didn’t. How’d that workout... 🙄
@jeffreymoscardelli8428
@jeffreymoscardelli8428 3 жыл бұрын
And Sabin got the fins to the playoffs that 1 year
@MultiKool13
@MultiKool13 3 жыл бұрын
It's really the doctor's fault, they're the ones who wouldn't clear him
@stevebarnes4805
@stevebarnes4805 3 жыл бұрын
I always felt that if Nick was given a Pete Carroll deal, he would have been a lot more successful in the NFL
@c.t.7289
@c.t.7289 3 жыл бұрын
Ricky Williams retiring def had a hand in that top
@jas9239
@jas9239 3 жыл бұрын
I posted almost the exact same comment and scrolled down and saw this..it’s so dumb people act like saban was unsuccessful in the pros..only two years and Gus frerotte and Joey Harrington were the quarterbacks
@Franco_City
@Franco_City 3 жыл бұрын
To be a successful coach in the NFL you need to know x's and o's. You need to be good at decision making. And most importantly you have to be a good leader of men.....
@barrychrisp9565
@barrychrisp9565 3 жыл бұрын
@michael miyasato you talking about Wisconsin??? Lol.
@walker1984
@walker1984 3 жыл бұрын
You need to be able to form a talented team that works under the salary cap. You can't just recruit the best players in the NFL.
@jamesmarhen
@jamesmarhen 3 жыл бұрын
@michael miyasato well if it's against my Cardinals they'll get at least 18 of those 20.
@Franco_City
@Franco_City 3 жыл бұрын
@@walker1984 That would fall under decision making....
@somewhatfunny98
@somewhatfunny98 3 жыл бұрын
Some coaches don't know how to coach with what they have. Adam Gase Some coaches know how to work with what they have. Brian Flores.
@Vincent-ht9it
@Vincent-ht9it 3 жыл бұрын
As a dolphins fan, I approve of this message 👍🏼
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 3 жыл бұрын
Gase will be the subject of a 30-for-30 someday, and one entire segment of the documentary will be called "The Phone Call" and it'll be about how Peyton Manning called the NY Jet's ownership and convinced them to hire Gase. Just crazy stuff.
@rockz7772
@rockz7772 2 жыл бұрын
Aged well with Urban 😂
@mikelorain66
@mikelorain66 3 жыл бұрын
Sure a lot of college coaches fail but a lot of coaches fail in general. Keep in mind that Arians, Carroll, Tomlin, Payton, Shanahan, Reid, Harbaugh, and Zimmer to name a few all coached in college before entering the NFL. You gotta start somewhere.
@CardinalsUpdate
@CardinalsUpdate 3 жыл бұрын
I was with rich rod in Arizona and that impression was too good😂😂😂😂
@hothotheat3000
@hothotheat3000 3 жыл бұрын
It’s easier to yell at a kid than a grown man who doesn’t respect you.
@lochnessmonster5149
@lochnessmonster5149 3 жыл бұрын
Urban Meyer hasn't developed a single NFL ready QB. It took Alex Smith an entire career in the NFL to get good
@willscoleman7998
@willscoleman7998 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I actually forgot he was an urban QB
@brought2UinHD
@brought2UinHD 3 жыл бұрын
His job isn’t to develop NFL QBs ? His job is to win games and develop college QBs which his group of college QBs are better than any coach ever....some of the games greatest were developed under his guidance
@lochnessmonster5149
@lochnessmonster5149 3 жыл бұрын
@@brought2UinHD this is about his ability at coaching in the NFL, not college.
@jas9239
@jas9239 3 жыл бұрын
Not fair to put Saban there..he wanted to get Drew Brees and the Dolphins said no, they didn’t give him much say in what they did and look at how that worked out
@SuperTimeStretch
@SuperTimeStretch 3 жыл бұрын
There are far more teams to coach for in college, far more money to be made (highest paid coaches in football are in college football), and they get to make their entire program the way they want to with recruiting, cuts, etc (not dealing with a GM). It's a dream.
@mikeb.3556
@mikeb.3556 3 жыл бұрын
The highest paid college coach is Saban at 9 mil and the highest paid NFL coach is Belichick at 12 mil and there's plenty of money to be made at both levels the only difference is players getting paid also in the pros.
@HillHomeGaming
@HillHomeGaming 3 жыл бұрын
The NFL is about schemes and getting the most out of your roster. College is about recruiting better talent than 98% of the other school and then running them over like a train outside of 1, maybe 2, games a year. Not that NO schemes are important in college but recruiting talent has such a bigger and dramatic impact. There are amazing athletes on EVERY NFL team... which can't be said for every college team.
@bigmandrums4346
@bigmandrums4346 2 жыл бұрын
His WVU jersey just makes me smile
@FnRenner
@FnRenner 3 жыл бұрын
Chip had one good season that was totally based on speeding up the pace of the game. The second half of his first season in Philly and his entire second season you could watch the opposing teams adjust to his style and would whoop the Eagles. NFL football is not the same monster as college. It's faster, the players are stronger, the season is longer, and the level of athletes is better all around at every position whereas in college you can have a team of 5 star players playing a team of 3 stars with one or two super athletes. Parity is the name of the game at the NFL level while the college game is based on recruiting more athletic talent.
@khornhorn9574
@khornhorn9574 3 жыл бұрын
That Rock impression lol
@zachh5043
@zachh5043 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you ty for being a true Hawkeye fan. On another note the fact that minnesota takes us that seriously makes me aware or how much we own this. I literally have never looked for minnesota on a preseason schedule
@jeremyfletcher7726
@jeremyfletcher7726 3 жыл бұрын
I rather have a coach whose real and knows who he is then a fake coach like patricia lol
@gauravagochiya4218
@gauravagochiya4218 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Flores is a perfect example of this. He doesn't try to be Belichick, he just tries to be Brian Flores. That's what players appreciate most
@teri3965
@teri3965 3 жыл бұрын
I’m unsure about Kliff Kingsbury at this point. Great video.
@mikeschmidt4800
@mikeschmidt4800 3 жыл бұрын
College coaches want to be dominate over the players. Only Bellichek has survived the modern era doing so. I don't think he does what he has without Brady being willing.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 3 жыл бұрын
Josh Christian Belichick is not dominant over players this is a media narrative, what is dominant is the perfection he demands from his assistants, and thus the players. But bill is much harder on his coaches than his players
@KTF0
@KTF0 2 жыл бұрын
Bill is a master tactician of defense. This has been known since the 80s. He's not a just bozo yelling at people.
@jamaalhorton2343
@jamaalhorton2343 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Pat that’s a long story!!
@nickgwyn1225
@nickgwyn1225 3 жыл бұрын
Jimbo Fisher, I believe could be a pretty good AFC South HC.
@ryanbell1121
@ryanbell1121 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough control in the NFL for most college coaches. Some people want full control over the operation
@matthewstuver2903
@matthewstuver2903 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a good point. Sabah does well because he’s anal and a control freak and can get away with it towards young players, especially since he is a father figure to many of them, perfect or not.. He did not do well with the Dolphins because that style of leadership does not give respect to those he leads.
@LunaWolfMXS
@LunaWolfMXS 3 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why college dynasty's last longer than NFL dynasty's. Even though colleges have a complete turn over ever 4 years, No. Matter. What.
@samuelyoung2671
@samuelyoung2671 3 жыл бұрын
recruiting?😂😂
@kylerunyon5779
@kylerunyon5779 3 жыл бұрын
omg, based on Pat's Rich Rod impression... I would be a Rich Rod type coach 😂
@daniel-ft2gt
@daniel-ft2gt 3 жыл бұрын
Pete Carroll a g for that
@holidaytodd
@holidaytodd 3 жыл бұрын
Pat i graduated wvu in 08. Lived on 6th floor lyon tower. U , pat white, n Steve Slayton, owen Schmitt , All changed our college experience for the better. The way rich rod left wvu was terrible. Keep it up the great podcast.... lets go......mountaineers!!!
@Drewmack22
@Drewmack22 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Johnson
@sammy6174
@sammy6174 3 жыл бұрын
Most NFL coaching success depends on the success of your GM. If you don’t have good players it doesn’t matter if your good at coaching, the coach will be first to take the blame and get fired regardless.
@wordcripple3174
@wordcripple3174 3 жыл бұрын
Then you've got coaches like Dave Wannstedt drove da Bears into da ground, drove the Dolphins into the ground, drove McAfee outta state and drove Pitt off the Allegheny Mountains.
@Rmadden727
@Rmadden727 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin was an nfl Super Bowl winning quarterback. He made my cousin leave Pittsburgh in college also.
@austionofoshooo3859
@austionofoshooo3859 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rmadden727 cousin joe is elite
@wordcripple3174
@wordcripple3174 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rmadden727 that's pretty sick that you're related to Flacco.
@Rmadden727
@Rmadden727 3 жыл бұрын
@@wordcripple3174 thanks man. I couldn’t agree more with your original comment. He doesn’t deserve to ever coach again. He told Joe he would never make it in the nfl and that there wouldn’t even be an quarterback competition. Then when joe requested a transfer he wouldn’t let him out of his red shirt contract and had to sit out his sophomore year at Delaware. He told Joe that Tyler Palko was a more well rounded quarterback. Joe thought Walt Harris would have been there throughout his collegiate career. Dave wannstedt drove that program into the ground and to this day I’d have some choice words for him.
@rushman2k3
@rushman2k3 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness there’s about an equal number of nfl coaches who were brought to college to do big things with all their nflisms but failed. Example UCLA
@UnleashthePhury
@UnleashthePhury 3 жыл бұрын
“You can be a bigger psychopath in college than you can in the pros” is a piss poor excuse for not being able to manage the egos and the chess match of professional football. Being a psycho is the least important part of the job, but it’s also the reason most of these lunatics gravitate to it.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 3 жыл бұрын
The issue is not managing egos of the players, it's the former college Head Coach managing their own ego.
@K-Bronz15
@K-Bronz15 3 жыл бұрын
If Saban would’ve gotten Brees I think he would’ve been fine. He did manage to put together a decent defense in his short time there
@mopnem
@mopnem 3 жыл бұрын
What you mean to say is that he failed
@cooldudecs
@cooldudecs 3 жыл бұрын
@@mopnem it’s impossible to win in the nfl unless you get lucky with some great players
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 3 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting "what if", because if let's say he's successful, constantly winning 10+ games, that effects the Patriots and without him at Alabama, it completely changes the last 14 years of college football.
@drevm7991
@drevm7991 3 жыл бұрын
Part of it is that college is as much recruiting as anything and it’s just nowhere near that easy in the NFL. In college if you can recruit with the best of them you can be a top team, in the NFL you can be a great coach but if you’re in Detroit or NY nobody wants to go there if they can make money at respected organizations or with other top guys.
@irshchuculain
@irshchuculain 3 жыл бұрын
Love the content, always fresh. Thank you. Your podcast is my favorite. Keep it up. Go Seattle!
@Sean-jb5gi
@Sean-jb5gi 3 жыл бұрын
Nich Saban realized that paying players in the NFL is not an incentive its expected so he when back to CFB. He also said "Im not going to be the Alabama Coach"
@KTF0
@KTF0 2 жыл бұрын
The way to do it correctly was what Jimmy Johnson did. He used his vast knowledge of college talent coming to the NFL and used it to draft the correct guys, and hired great assistants. It feels like some NFL GMs learned the wrong lesson from the Hershel Walker trade. The haul of draft picks wasn't the prize. The players Dallas picked with those draft picks were the prize.
@hobbs9010
@hobbs9010 3 жыл бұрын
Saban is a good example to prove its schematics-related. That dude demands respect. In some cases it could be players not buying in, but saban’s resume should let you assume that vets bought in when he was with the dolphins.
@xXMc1ovinXx
@xXMc1ovinXx 3 жыл бұрын
College is all about Raw talent and talent can win games but 40+ points and skill gaps are massive. Now in the NFL raw talent can no longer just win and stomp games. College they dont adjust the same way throughout the game and they dont call the same skill calls that are against equally skilled teams
@matthewstuver2903
@matthewstuver2903 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Alabama and Clemson win games for two reasons: 1. Recruiting talent 2. MOST IMPORTANTLY they develop and *discipline* that talent. Bans and Clemson don’t commit fouls. They’re trained in head football
@seanob9245
@seanob9245 3 жыл бұрын
8:43 that explains the birds season that year. Mccoy and foles were on fire until postseason hit and ran out of fuel
@thraxpac7179
@thraxpac7179 3 жыл бұрын
Heads up for the Egg bowl visit!!
@joemckim1183
@joemckim1183 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Saban won a national championship at LSU then went to the Miami Dolphins and got fired after a year and half and goes back to college to coach a dynasty in Alabama. Saban definitely qualifies as a guy who's a better college coach then pro coach.
@SRM110
@SRM110 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t get fired, he quit
@joemckim1183
@joemckim1183 3 жыл бұрын
@Darius Williams True, Belichick only had marginal success as coach of the Browns. But then the Browns were on pace to make the playoffs in the last year there but after the announcement of the move to Baltimore it was a huge distraction for the team and they lost almost the rest of their games that year.
@Amazingpally
@Amazingpally 3 жыл бұрын
The self is very strong in most of us, sleeping or waking, it is ever alert, always strengthening itself but when there is an awareness of the self and a realization that all its activities, however subtle, must always lead to conflict and pain then the craving for certainty, for self-continuance comes to an end.
@gregpst77
@gregpst77 3 жыл бұрын
It has absolutely nothing to do with coming from college. It's hard for any coach to last long in the NFL.
@mason678w
@mason678w 3 жыл бұрын
Fully developed millionaires vs broke young men with brains that haven’t been fully developed
@Zen-vm5tc
@Zen-vm5tc 3 жыл бұрын
@@metrom3494 did you watch the video?
@lochnessmonster5149
@lochnessmonster5149 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that the prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed until the late 20's, most NFL players aren't fully developed either.
@BVBrocks927
@BVBrocks927 3 жыл бұрын
@@metrom3494 clown
@Davis991000
@Davis991000 3 жыл бұрын
@@metrom3494 🤡🤡🤡
@djtrankilo231
@djtrankilo231 3 жыл бұрын
@@lochnessmonster5149 and that's when most NFL players peak and decline after
@djaeb2001
@djaeb2001 3 жыл бұрын
Love Rich Rod, wish Illinois would get off there asses and hire him!!!
@stephenrosenfelder4452
@stephenrosenfelder4452 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, sure, let me know how that works out. Offense: check Defense: what is that? His style of play is fun to watch, but for fucks sake, hire a GD good def coord!
@djaeb2001
@djaeb2001 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenrosenfelder4452 yeah, I think he’s learned his lesson from before.
@kentexican5844
@kentexican5844 3 жыл бұрын
Rich Rodriguez leaving West Virginia for Michigan? Charlie Strong leaving Louisville for Texas? 'Always felt like (even before each left and had not so good results at the bigger name schools) they could have continued to build and improve on their success at Louisville and WVU.
@harpliver
@harpliver 3 жыл бұрын
I think Matt Rhule will do well.
@robertmitchell8682
@robertmitchell8682 3 жыл бұрын
I hope he does, but I doubt it. NFC South is too good these days for a rebuilding panthers squad to actually do well. He won’t blow it completely, they will be competitive, but it’ll take a long time for him to learn how to close each and every game in all the different scenarios you face as a HC
@generalgrievous9947
@generalgrievous9947 3 жыл бұрын
I think the guy from arizona whose name escapes me is doing pretty well rn, especially since he was a coach with a losing record at texas tech.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 3 жыл бұрын
@@generalgrievous9947 Kliff Kingsbury, the coach who loves himself just a _bit_ too much...I think the jury is still out on him. He went 35-40 at Texas Tech and 13-18-1 so far with the Cardinals. If he doesn't go .500 this year he'll get fired.
@generalgrievous9947
@generalgrievous9947 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewshandle I think they'll be a pretty good team, and They've been improving since he got there. 5-10 his first season and 8-8 his second.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 3 жыл бұрын
@@generalgrievous9947 Maybe, but so far he hasn't done much. It's definitely an incomplete grade at this point. With 7 playoff teams in each conference, if he missed the playoffs this year after what the team has given him, I imagine he'll be gone.
@101yak
@101yak 3 жыл бұрын
Connor has become more and more bland in his appearance every time the patriots flame has been getting lower and lower. RIP Connors fanhood.
@stevejamieson8468
@stevejamieson8468 Жыл бұрын
Nick had prior experience as DC and position coach prior to his 2 years at Miami. Nick's 2 years at Miami were not that bad, here is what sent him back to college. The combo of not getting Drew Brees like he wanted and his wife's ego of needing to have influence over the campus sent him to Alabama.
@bigbirdflying6330
@bigbirdflying6330 3 жыл бұрын
jim harbaugh was amazing when he came in.
@BMK500
@BMK500 3 жыл бұрын
Who was that cowboys coach who was having them do three a days during camp back in the early 2000’s then went like 3-13 in season. Dude was trying to run them the same way he did his college program and it backfired heavily.
@theoriginaltommysteward
@theoriginaltommysteward 3 жыл бұрын
I stopped being a football fan around the fifth or sixth Minnesota Gopher letdown (years ago...okay maybe I'm just not the biggest football fan). It warms my heart to see other people rip on them.
@frankmorris6765
@frankmorris6765 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Saban in Miami was the worst thing to happen to Ricky Williams.
@douglassaunders1569
@douglassaunders1569 3 жыл бұрын
Yo pat I love you guys man I tune in every day to watch and I love watching you guys talk to the 🐐 every week Arron Rodger tell him I said hi!!
@jessekauffman3336
@jessekauffman3336 3 жыл бұрын
Lou holtz with the ny jets and making a fight song lol
@jamesmarhen
@jamesmarhen 3 жыл бұрын
Such a terrible idea. He was definitely not cut out to coach in the NFL.
@jessekauffman3336
@jessekauffman3336 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmarhen I watched that song and I’m like a 28 year old is gonna one respect real ast
@mikaelhaggard8031
@mikaelhaggard8031 3 жыл бұрын
Lovie fell on his face going from pro to college.
@landonrenli689
@landonrenli689 3 жыл бұрын
Every single PJ Fleck roast is accurate
@owenjohnson3414
@owenjohnson3414 3 жыл бұрын
1:10 Yessir baby
@huskerjon6800
@huskerjon6800 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all think you hate Iowa lmao I live in Nebraska dude
@bendy45
@bendy45 3 жыл бұрын
Iowa doesn’t consider you a rival either. In state rivalry of ISU, or Wisco, or Penn State are the biggest. Helps with big 10 changes tho. Always a good game with the cornhuskers tho.
@XxDanny80xX
@XxDanny80xX 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Saban could have made it if Doctors Cleared Drew Brees or if he was in a different team. Majority of his players contributed to the success of SuperBowl contending teams. His BAMA Players win big in Baltimore and New England years past.
@adamfoxresurgencebandwagon3234
@adamfoxresurgencebandwagon3234 3 жыл бұрын
*Bobby Petrino*
@mattress2655
@mattress2655 3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad that they care enough to chant that at Minnesota cuz like. As an Iowa fan? I don't think about Minnesota at all.
@division1rejects
@division1rejects 3 жыл бұрын
He KNEW it wasn’t gonna work at Michigan. News flash: it didn’t.
@cooldudecs
@cooldudecs 3 жыл бұрын
Players are staying down south... Nothkng to do in Michigan on the weekends except cold wealther sledding
@austinhopkins4191
@austinhopkins4191 3 жыл бұрын
@@cooldudecs they come to Ohio state tho zero excuses
@shanekingsley251
@shanekingsley251 3 жыл бұрын
My phone battery is at 69% right now. Hehe.
@mikek771
@mikek771 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention. PJ Fleck has already coached in the nfl. Plus played in the nfl.
@todayontheinternet9576
@todayontheinternet9576 3 жыл бұрын
In the NFL you got guys that have been doing it for a long time... *Dwayne Haskin's strippers have entered the chat*
@division1rejects
@division1rejects 3 жыл бұрын
Matt Rhule is gonna change this trend. That Carolina team with CMC back next year could be scary
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 3 жыл бұрын
While I didn't love Bridgewater speaking out about what he didn't like about Carolina, if they aren't practicing 2 minute drills and red zone offense, that needs to change. The games are way too close in the NFL to not care about end of games situations or red-zone offense.
@JD20shoots3s
@JD20shoots3s 3 жыл бұрын
My argument for PJ Fleck is that he has spent time in an NFL locker room but yeah I don't know how he would actually work out.
@Nocturnal_Lunacy
@Nocturnal_Lunacy 3 жыл бұрын
This video should be called "my rich rod impression is real funny im hilarious"
@richardarroyo5136
@richardarroyo5136 3 жыл бұрын
I think what happened with Nick saban was that didn't give him Power to build a team the way Wanted he had to rely on the world's Worst GMs Read absolutely no idea about football I was one of the people that was mad when he left but in hindsight I completely understand why
@Cifer77
@Cifer77 3 жыл бұрын
I think it simply boils down to College Coaches are more part Teacher. NFL Coaches are more part Boss. Student/Teacher relationships are vastly different than Boss/Staff relationships.
@williamjamesrapp7356
@williamjamesrapp7356 3 жыл бұрын
WOW Talking before a game could be REALLY GOOD I think more so than being told to be quit
@DanburyConnecticut
@DanburyConnecticut 3 жыл бұрын
the slant of my mouse' cursor lines up perfectly with the edges of Pat's microphone. Try it out!
@DanburyConnecticut
@DanburyConnecticut 3 жыл бұрын
Does not work after 8:26.
@moneyman9884
@moneyman9884 3 жыл бұрын
Pat mcafee for mayor of earth
@oscar5211
@oscar5211 3 жыл бұрын
Chip Kelly was pretty good. Even had Mark Sanchez playing good in Philly!!!
@gerardogomez3192
@gerardogomez3192 3 жыл бұрын
That was a stacked team. Not much he had to do. He tried and fucked that team up.
@powert4612
@powert4612 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pat what do you think about Rich Rodriguez getting the Tennessee job
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