Patagonia Bikepacking Kit | New BMC URS Gravel Bike & Equipment

[@jakedarby]

Has Mark been offered a full time presenter slot yet? If not, please do. He’s a natural and brings a unique perspective to the racing crew.

[@logtothebase2]

Cycletouring is back! Rebranded a bit as bikepacking.with trendy new clobber to acquire.

[@backpacker3421]

Gotta say I'm impressed with the small total size of the bags. My sleeping bag would barely stuff into that "house", let alone the tent and sleeping pad. My set up --- Bar bag = tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad (18L capacity, normally 12 used) Post bag = clothes and kitchen (12L capacity, normal half full) Frame bag = tools, spare tubes, etc, and the food for the day, electronics (no idea of capacity... it's a full frame bag, not half) Fork/stay bags if used = heavy stuff, electronics, camera kit, kitchen fuel (5L each used in pairs, normally full if used at all) Bottles go in bottle bags either side of the stem for easy access and extra weight forward.

[@markl2815]

I’ll start by saying a couple of things ... First up, I’m generally a fan of GCN stuff, secondly, I know full well it is sponsored and commercial. The gear you show here is great kit, really handy and will do the job. Thing is .... how about telling us how much that rig would cost ? The tent alone is advertised at £600 .... which is way too much for what it is. The rest ... who knows but I’m pretty sure I could buy half a plot of land for what it all comes to. My point is .... can you sometimes do a feature where you look at how to achieve similar results without stupidly expensive gear ... just so the rest of us, who won’t ever have that stuff, can get some useful info. I’m fine that you do these too for those few who do have that sort of cash but it isn’t much use to most people really. It should really read “includes stupidly expensive gear promotion” on the start up.

[@markl2815]

Mac J cheers, yeah I’ve seen it Tbh, I’m also canoë expédition and bushcraft guy with an outdoor company so I know that there are much more possible and accessible options, especially if the individual has skills in that sort of stuff. It is just that even if people did have the cash to just “buy a lifestyle” for a trip, a) they don’t need to b) they will still need skills and organisation to make it work c) none of that is featured here I know why, I’m just asking if from time to time something like that could be included. I’m now going off GCN a bit since the change of ownership because it really is (in my view) becoming a glorified ad channel with new content ... mind you, I still watch some of it an also applaud some. Commercial realities I guess but the fun and the accessibility seems to be waning My view, I’m allowed to have one

[@raff5604]

Will GCN have a TV show one day? A lot of us feel that you guys are just as good or better than Top Gear and the production values are excellent . It doesn't have to be an hour (although) if you feature epic rides, a hour weekly show would be fantastic. Road, Gravel and Mountain bikes would keep the attention of many, many of us that love cycling as well as those who aren't crazy about cycling. Just like Top Gear, women that couldn't care less about cars loved the show.

[@Boopop1024]

My guess would be right now it'd be a safer bet sticking to youtube. It works for them currently and presumably there'd be different pressures on them if they tried doing a TV show. Besides all you're gaining by it being on TV is the studio section between segments, and I don't really think that's too great a loss.

[@mrchristube]

Really great video, I especially liked the super awkward “hugshake” when Hank met Pablo. Keep up the great content GCN.

[@jascollinscork]

Fabulous looking bike!!! Wonder if it’s still good for the road with wider road tyres too??? Fair play to ye for doing that trip💪🏻!! Long ways away from home 🇮🇪😀

[@bobdagv8996]

You don't need all this stuff to have a good adventure on a bike - when I was 17 I went out on a 150 pound bike with cheap halfords panniers, 'borrowed' my dads camping equipment and cycled back from south wales to manchester camping wherever I found on the way. Never missed any expensive gear. Just a sense of complete freedom. Been cycling ever since. Cycling doesn't have to be expensive and complicated where you need all the latest stuff and 15 tools to do a job. But is something everyone with a strong pair of legs and a dollop of determination can enjoy.

[@ldmrs]

Would really like to know the precise model for the tent, and wether you took a lightweight mattress too? Thx

[@ldmrs]

DisasterIRL thanks!

[@DisasterpiecesIRL]

Fucking pricey though

[@cowieson]

@@DisasterpiecesIRL Yeah, the absolute top of the range stuff is rather pricey. You can go for the heavier stuff for a lot less cash if you aren't too fussed about weight - I have a Vango Nevis 100 which was only £90 (but weighs twice as much at 1600g).

[@DisasterpiecesIRL]

@@cowieson How do you find it? Torn between getting a one man that's light for me or get a two man that's practical and on the lighter scale because I'll probably be bike packing with someone else and a two man is lighter than two one man

[@cowieson]

@@DisasterpiecesIRL I like it! They do a 2 man version which isn't *too* much heavier (I think it's about 400 grams from memory, but don't quote me on that). If you do go for a 2 man, you could always have one of you carry the poles and the other carrying the tent and flysheet I suppose. Although, having done some 2 man camping in a single tent, it gets "cosy"!

[@dreamer6345]

How about a video on how the different bags effect the ride feel.

[@imranchishti5457]

Great vid. I have the 2022 URS LT 1. Now I know What bike packing gear to get for it. Thanks for the informative video ! The bike is a demon for punishment .

[@alkiou3613]

The bike being near the river and held up by a stick makes me extremely nervous.

[@treyquattro]

it might fall in and become clean?

[@ViveSemelBeneVivere]

And a furry stick at that!

[@citrasetyanto]

Same.. I had experinced it first hand 😂

[@mar79379]

don't worry, they'll get another one from BMC

[@hispaniacicloturismo8578]

I like this bike a lot! thanks for all this information!

[@xavierpennell7850]

Loving the vids lads

[@yurimow]

hm... long top tube, slack head tube, short stem... 20 years ago we called that a trekking bike

[@positiivi_teme]

But with the suspension add-ons, soon they'll be riding pure mountain bikes. 😁

[@WanderABit]

Vango lists four 1P tents, and lightest of them is 1.2kg. So what is the name of the version you used? Pity you didn't show in detail the content of the bags.

[@DisasterpiecesIRL]

www.tauntonleisure.com/vango-f10-hydrogen-air-tent-2020-p-12063.html

[@chazpilks]

How many water bottles did you both use? The clearance on the down tube looks difficult to get a bottle in and out.

[@elorz007]

What type of pedals and shoes did you use? I somehow have the feeling that I would never go with clipless pedals on a bikepacking tour: fewer things to break and more confortable off the bike shoes (no need to carry a second pair)

[@abenogcyklen5785]

Ever heard of mtb shoes ? they have been around for a while, and you can walk in them too ;-)

[@suzykinner5889]

Great video. Just bought my first gravel bike and I'm really interested in finding a good/efficient bag/pack set up. Unfortunately, I ride a 48" frame (I'm a 5'4" woman) and so fitting gear plus keeping my two water bottles seems tricky. In the video, you aren't wearing backpacks and aren't carrying bags with a water bladder. No way you need camp gear but not toting water. What do you do for that? Thanks! that would help me complete the picture. Again, thanks for the video. Great info.

[@gauloisrefractaireenexilvo4366]

The BMC URS looks comfy and fast but the lack of eyelets on the frame is a problem for remote bike packing when extra food / water is needed. A 700 gr tent work for overnighters. For multi-weeks adventures, one better buy sturdy and durable equipment to avoid disastrous situations in the middle of nowhere.

[@sabamacx]

What size is the second bike? XL?

[@frickdylan]

When you plan an adventure like this, where you clearly have to fly in, what do you do with your bike bag, while your bike packing? Assuming you don't have a film crew car to put them in.

[@SuperDeinVadda]

Airport storage?

[@FelixBauwens]

I put my bike in a simple card board box. You can pick up these boxes in any bike shop for free. You can dispose the box when you arrive and pick up a new box at a local bike shop when you are getting ready to fly home again. In my case, I have a very robust Trek 520 . If you have a carbon fibre frame, a card board box might not give the frame the protection it needs.

[@AKG77]

My last trip, it was a loop back to the same place. So i flatted my cardboard box, wrapped nicely with plastic wrapper from the elements and hide it away nicely. When I came back 7 days later the box is there for packing back home.

[@JogBird]

ppl usually stay at a hotel to get set up, if youre coming back to the same hotel, you can ask to store your bike bag there

[@lsche35]

Cardboard bike box, you can get one from a bike shop for free for the way there and buy one from most airports

[@backpacker3421]

How are you liking the GRX? I've purchased a 2x GRX system for my touring bike (mainly road touring) and plan to install it before the season starts. I may even convert it to 1x later since this area is full of steep hills. Not too many flats to use a large chainring on...

[@TheHighlander2007]

I use a Nordisk Lofoten tent, at around 600g, so the Vango can't be the lightest in the world?

[@ruffrydazz2032]

It's not. It's not even the lightest free standing tent. Big Agnes makes a freestanding, two person tent that weighs less than the Vango which is essentially a rip off of the Nemo GoGo Elite bivy.

[@MylesTheGinger]

What did you use for a sleeping pad? Was there one built into the floor of the tent?

[@nicolasbozzo2364]

Are you in Chile or Argentina. Im from Chile! You should definetely try carretera austral (R7). Have a great adventure!

[@MrRay645]

awesome looking bikes and great video, I do wonder what the head tube would look like after 1000 miles or so with the bar bag rubbing on it

[@viktor14jaar]

I did 3000 miles with a handlebar bag that was rubbing. Minor scratching overall. You can only notice it when you are looking closely. But next time I will put some duct tape over it so it doesn't scratch more.

[@MrRay645]

@@viktor14jaar thanks, Then I will use some heli tape, had visions of a deep channels carved into the carbon like we used to get from cables forming after some miles.

[@tombarton7043]

Wonder why Mark didn’t go for GRX levers and hoods?

[@hoser7706]

What Vango tent were you using? It is mentioned and shown a couple of times but which model?

[@GNARGNARHEAD]

gah! gotta get out this spring

[@mediumrick7667]

Like it. More please.

[@steveco1800]

4:09 Weird to opt for 40t and 11-40. Might as well have the 11-42 cassette for slightly better range. Gaps won't be much worse, happy with mine...unless this is a mistake in the video? Seems the URS Two comes with a 11-42 stock and you say 42 in the actual GCN video?

[@zanezac2443]

THE BEST ALL AROUND BIKE EVER

[@LarsRR]

zane zac24 I think that would be the Open UPPER. It’s lighter, and more sporty, while having great compliance and massive tyre space. It also take 2x. It’s just more versatile and makes for a real road bike, too.

[@KyriaxWitch]

one mistake on Patagonia with that bike will be the worst all around bike ever.

[@heinrichvelo7404]

Which tent from vango is it? Can’t find one under 1,5kg🤔

[@guillaumedougados9867]

This is not really a bikepacking bike but a racing gravel bike, that is a bike for the Dirty Kanza more than the TDR or Patagonia. The best bikepacking dropbars bike is the Salsa Cutthroat. But, it’s an good advertisement, which it is.

[@Bob-rm5et]

Isn’t the D shape seatpost inspired by Giant?

[@dreamer6345]

Dhb merino socks was it cold out there?

[@012antrode]

Patagonia (Spanish pronunciation: [pataˈɣonja]) is a sparsely populated region at the southern end of South America, shared by Chile and Argentina. The region comprises the southern section of the Andes Mountains and the deserts, pampas, and grasslands to the east. You're welcome - google.

[@mirceaandreighinea]

3:58 - how short those chainstays? asking since there is no official number as i looked in their geometry chart. thank you!

[@joelell1]

I tried looking up as well... Found a chart in Gran Fondo's review stating 425 mm for what it's worth.

[@david.vandergoes]

Which tent? Brand and model? Exact info would be helpful.

[@francisamargo4616]

What size bikes are showcased here?

[@orcus09]

Nice or Super Nice? Jon: Look at the valves not aligned!, its dusty, excess steerer tube, and he shouldnt have left the bottle in. Oli: Yes I agree Jon, Nice bike though, sorry Hank. LOL!

[@neilmoses3376]

Your tent is not the lightest terra nova do 490g. What else are you wrong about?

[@MrRemota]

Why no CC? A lot of people can't understand english just hearing. Thanks from Brazil.

[@RoyamI93]

where can I find this Altura frame bag?

[@FrancisMuir]

Anyone managed to find out what that tent is? Nothing on the Vango site.

[@janislionel1715]

What size is the rider on the XL?

[@zubairpi]

Why not a carrier?

[@chrispark2752]

What model is the Vango tent?

[@thomasspotzl4240]

Vango F10 Neon UL I guess. It say world's lightest double layer tent on their website. There are lighter options though. Plenty of videos to find on here on that topic.

[@craigpaterson5085]

according to google it is called "project HYdrogen" - punch that in and take a look.

[@jeffreystuart4830]

Why don't gravel bike campers use a rear rack and panniers to help carry stuff?

[@FelipeLuizDickmann]

You guys replaced Garmin to wahoo due to sponsorship or because wahoo is better?

[@martinhudobivnik5895]

That rear mech looks like it's in a lot of pain.

[@janodesjanodes]

Most riders don't have the luxury of being supported by a camera crew. Also, as many have observed, the premise of traveling all the way to Patagonia for a three day trip is nonsense. The fact is to outfit a longer trip one needs to carry more stuff, so an endurance race across Europe setup is inadequate. The month I spent in Patagonia it rained everyday. Having a tent to get out of the rain is essential. A dry change of clothes,rain gear, shoes,a first aid kit, food,etc. If you eat in cafes every meal and stay in hostels frequently maybe the minimalist gear in this video is sufficient, otherwise a more conventional,but minimalist touring setup with racks and panniers will be necessary.

[@michaelb1761]

I'll start by admitting that I don't have bikepacking experience. However, I do have backpacking experience, and though I'm not an ultralight packer, if I only need to carry 2 to 3 days of food, a 40 L pack is sufficient. Then again, I would need a few extra liters for bike tool and spare part storage if bikepacking. How many liters of storage would you say is necessary, assuming camping out and carrying one or two days of food in between towns/stores?

[@janodesjanodes]

@@michaelb1761 My month in Patagonian Chile was spent kayaking south of Puerto Mont but I did encounter many bikers traveling the Carretara Austral. They were all sporting the full 5 or 6 bag pannier set. The last gravel bikepacking trip I took was the week long hut to hut Telluride to Moab trip involving approx 6000 ft of climbing gravel forest roads daily for a week. There were fully stocked huts along the way and I just carried my own sleeping bag, but still carried 2 front sized panniers on the back, along with a trunk and handlebar bag. Also found it necessary to wear a hydration pack as clean drinking water was hard to come by. [if there are sheep or cattle anywhere upstream, it is an invitation to guardia] I have done my share of minimalist, credit card touring, and still carried a rain suit and a change of clothes and shoes, a first aid kit etc. Adventure Cycling org is the outfit that mapped and popularized the divide trail and specialize in any and all bicycle adventure. photos.google.com/album/AF1QipPdAk7jlAjCxQzyywYJ3alzZlSmlBt7lgI3wEey/photo/AF1QipPjLAc4XTzXFJ5bGYyV45LVJY17K3V7YuPM95bV

[@DavidJames-sv9sm]

That is a huge chainring for bikepacking No fork blade mounting points

[@turboencabulator2410]

You should maybe review a product some day for those of us without unlimited financial resources.

[@Malesoun]

The thing that you need to bear in mind is that bike companies supply the gear to support their own marketing needs and will always be trying to sell their top end equipment. It would be a struggle for channels like GCN to deliver content like this without the support of said companies.

[@turboencabulator2410]

Thank you, and I understood that fact before I posted, but my request remains valid.

[@KyriaxWitch]

why not review the same adventure with low end bikes or groupset? is a marketing shit unfortunately to make people trust more on carbon and electronics shifts.

[@julmeissonnier]

I built pretty much the same thing (functionally) with a 1990 Cromoly Specialized RockHopper frame V-brakes and 26" wheels for a total of around $700. It weighs about 2Kg more but will survive much longer and will be less likely to get stolen...

[@rcg9573]

Why not post under your real name coward? 😆

[@narayananramesh2320]

the second bike seems to have a longer head tube

[@abenogcyklen5785]

Thats because the man is taller

[@marcellolorusso419]

I must be honest, I purchased last summer that Pro Discover kit and to be completely honest I cannot imagine a single way it could have been designed worse... At least one piece of equipment was falling apart every day of my trip, and the quality of the zippers wouldn't be acceptable even for a kid backpack, since on the frame bag they deformed and broke down after 2 days of use... both pockets... since I was seeing this coming I also fitted a couple of velcro straps as a backup system before starting the trip and i partially solved it, but what a disappointment...

[@thomasspotzl4240]

At 700g it may be a light tent but sure not world's lightest.

[@tn40pedaller17]

Super

[@XxXuzurpatorXxX]

Front rotor size is...?

[@Digi20]

180mm

[@durianriders]

needs a 32 up front. nice edit.

[@RumpStumper]

Join the BMC URS Group on Facebook

[@lfoster7601]

So at 8.3Kg it's "light", but my 9.3Kg steel Carlton is "heavy"???So is 8.8Kg "Medium"?

[@danielbum912]

are apples heavier than oranges as well?

[@KyriaxWitch]

8.8 is weight of my aluminium touring bike.

[@belverticale]

U guys go to a lot of trouble just to avoid getting a rear rack and triple set on. Also: 3 by, say it.

[@michaeljlr8646]

amen

[@KyriaxWitch]

3x10 touring ultegra here.... blessed be.

[@nickc4716]

“Worlds lightest tent, from Vango”. Nonsense. Nordisk or Terra Nova will knock another 150 ish grams off that.

[@KoenMiseur]

While 700gram is light there are lighter tents like Zpack: zpacks.com/collections/shelters

[@KyriaxWitch]

bike packing to Patagonia ... really? shit name to good old cycling touring. and all this 1x forced to be good for anyone. bullshit! or this guys are running on an ebike? or neutral support the whole way? because nobody in their right mind will use one chainring, carbon shits and electronic drivetrain to travel long KMs in a place that you barely know.

[@mattatkinson4441]

700 grams is nowhere near the worlds lightest tent . Many options out there that are significantly lighter.

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

If I were to go touring in far flung places of this world the first condition my bike frame would have to fulfill is being made of steel. Should anything on it break any mechanic in any hamlet anywhere in the world would be able to return it into a rideable condition. This is not the case with ANY other frame material.

[@Digi20]

Used to think the same - but in reality the frame material does not really matter. IF you have such a heavy accident that the frame gets damaged beyong ride-able condition, chances are pretty high that you personaly are also injured beyond ride-able and/or many different parts of the bike are so bust that you cant continue either way.

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

@@Digi20 you never crashed your bike and walked away from it while the bike sustained damage? And especially with carbon fibre a deep scratch is enough to compromise the frame sufficiently to be dangerous.

[@Digi20]

@@gustavmeyrink_2.0sure i ripped apart derailleurs, broke STIs and such stuff without getting hurt myself, but i never broke a frame. and i dont know how you could induce so much forces into one to get it bent or cracked (regardless of material) without beeing involed into a major accident, or pushing it over a cliff. that said, of course i would not want to use the lightest availabe carbon frame for world touring - but i also wouldnt want the lightest steel frame either. always choose something thats suitable for the apllication.

[@rcg9573]

BS. If you damage a bike to the point the frame is unrideable you have almost certainly trashed a wheel, one of both derailleurs, or a shifter, etc. Frame damage is one of the most overrated worries on a remote bike ride.

[@sheilastallard]

NICE sorry not up to bike vault standard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rcg9573]

Neither are you. LOL

[@sheilastallard]

@@rcg9573 Are you sure!!! LOL

[@2darkdragon]

didnt even talk about the wheels....or a sound check....

[@jonpoon3896]

Pretty sure my tent is 600 grams

[@АндрейАндреев-о8к]

Говорит на каком то туземном языке, нехера не понятно! Велик же-норм👌👍

[@kamilfilka3440]

Bikepacking kit intro video yet half of the time you spent on showing BMC bike :/

[@petermelnikov682]

Check Iohan Gueorguiev on internet to learn about real bikepacking experience in in South America.

[@sup_1312]

Not enough zits

[@ronnyhormann262]

- nicht mal geschenkt möchte ich diese bmc gestelle!

[@2001nb]

You should have just called it "BMC bike advertising" what's wrong with you guys!! You used to do much better and informative videos accessible to the ordinary public. Advertising a "bikepacking" kit that may cost a fortune is not the way to go!

[@mirceaandreighinea]

good presenters, James and Mark, FINALLY... (please, for the other ones, grow up and stop doing the joker approach)

[@federicotheironlyportrait]

I can't belive you call that boring trip the "trip of a lifetime"! For a real Adventure at Patagonia you weren't using the right bikes or gear... and even if they're big sponsor, you can't claim it's the world's lightest tent with 700 grams ;)