Path of Exile: Jewelery Crafting - Explaining Crafting Strategy, What Has Value & Pricing!

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ZiggyD Gaming

ZiggyD Gaming

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@suonatic5186
@suonatic5186 10 жыл бұрын
A 40min video dedicated to the thing I need to learn most about in PoE. RNGesus bless you, Ziggy.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
+SnizzleGeist Hold the shift key while using them! Also you need to change your G+ settings so that people can reply to you in comments ;)
@ichitensho7075
@ichitensho7075 10 жыл бұрын
love those explanation videos ! keep up the good work !
@elraito
@elraito 10 жыл бұрын
Ziggy one of the best quotes ive come across: "In PoE there is no crafting, only gambling and the house always wins". I still find it funny and silly people call slotmachi... i mean currency usage in PoE crafting.
@SoggieCookie
@SoggieCookie 10 жыл бұрын
do you use the default forum template or your own? cause right now im just stuck pricing every single item one by one
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
elraito Cute quote but it's not exactly true. You can actually work the system so that you always win or at the very least break even. You see, slot machines don't have vendor recipes that you can funnel your 'losses' into ;)
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Justin Campbell I use a template that you can grab for yourself here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m33dpKqfp9CkY7c
@TheJoiku7
@TheJoiku7 10 жыл бұрын
omg yes! a 40 min video on somthing i wanted to see for a while ty so much ziggy :D
@johnrayker6245
@johnrayker6245 8 жыл бұрын
Soothing to listen to you. pretty rare thing with most video-producers. ty 4 all the informative vids. really helped out big time. got yourself a subscribe. :)
@diegodelax
@diegodelax 10 жыл бұрын
It's hard to price and sell items in an economy based in items rather than currency by itself, adding people who like to underprice or plainly scam other players makes it even harder; finding stuff like this video is an enormous help to us players who (with or without too much experience) want to buy and/or sell items at a fair price, thanks Ziggy, you are the best
@felipeahonorio
@felipeahonorio 10 жыл бұрын
That was maybe your most helpful video for me, when it comes to pricing. Because I'm unexperienced with trading, I know life, resist and these stuff are valuable but dont know much about how much is needed to be valuable, what combinations, feel insecure about it, never knowing if I'm pricing too high or too low. Seeing how it's done give us much more insight, also realizing that even an experienced player dont know for sure the prices, and the suggestion to not worry to much about under pricing, cause if you sell cheap, it will give u experience in return, while over pricing can give you nothing. Hope you can bring more videos like this, showing how it's actually done =)
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
felipeahonorio Yeah that's it man, you have to just start by chucking some up and seeing what sells really! Building confidence in pricing and trading is actually a big part of it. A sale, even under priced, is currency + personal experience! Better than just vendoring!I might do a video of ID'ing general loot shortly since this one seems to have been helpful for people!
@felipeahonorio
@felipeahonorio 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming Great, and thanks, Keep up the good work!
@Scorptice
@Scorptice 10 жыл бұрын
It is so good to have Ziggy after Kripp decided to sell his soul to the semendemon of casul. I am watching almost every PoE related video and I have never regretted it. So much to learn, so much to nolife. So much to lose time on instead of learning for exams. Perfect Channel! I like this! ... ANOTHER!
@johncollins7796
@johncollins7796 9 жыл бұрын
This is probably old news but you can also hold ALT and mouse over an item and the item level will display inside the item properties box (instead of typing /itemlevel in the chat window)
@khayman4628
@khayman4628 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I was wandering, have you thought about doing a video like this for rolling maps?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
I have done a map series where I talk about rolling each of the maps I run at the start. I never really roll maps in bulk. Right now a lot of people's map rolling strats might be changing as well so I might wait that out first.
@victorvarbanov9488
@victorvarbanov9488 8 жыл бұрын
Hello Ziggy, thanks for the videos! Could you possible link or list the songs you have used in this video?
@Poachy
@Poachy 10 жыл бұрын
your commentary guides are best of best
@Scorptice
@Scorptice 10 жыл бұрын
If I may add a request! Can you do a related long-tutorial about 5 -6l crafting? What would you do if you dropped a low-level but 5l item? And how to proceed if you drop a GG plate with only 1 socket? Do everything on vorici? Is there a min/max threshhold between rng-trying and paying vorici?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
***** Hmm interesting idea. Would be hard to do a longer video on especially because it's not something that comes up often. If I find a white 5/6 link chest I check the price of the base linked on poe.trade then I usually chuck an alch on it for the off chance of gg rolls. Then I usually just sell as is. I don't bother with weapons at alland rarely sell linked weapons unless they are an endgame base or are gg rolled. I never vorici craft 5 or 6 links, it's more economic long term to craft them yourself.
@PWzhouster
@PWzhouster 10 жыл бұрын
Ziggy, don't forget that your Master Crafting tables probably aren't maxed level, so that later on you might be able to add certain mods. I think %Eva/Arm/ES are 1 ex or something later on.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
You can use the wiki pages for each master to check what they have available and for how much.
@grimoutlaw
@grimoutlaw 9 жыл бұрын
thx for the great video i learned allot it would be so awesome if they added something to change atleast one stat for a cost at a crafting station or by adding a currency to change prefixes and 1 for suffixes but have it limited to 1 each or something
@rainie_876
@rainie_876 8 жыл бұрын
How to check the number of affixes on a rare? Since sometimes you see double rolls of item rarity like in this video and I'd like to know exactly how many affixes I can add.
@ThePatkpp
@ThePatkpp 8 жыл бұрын
Hi what i wanted to ask you is how you pick all those items in a first place, do you use item filter? I have Neversink filter, but it doesnt show a lot of white rings that drops, and im wondering how you do it ?
@moondrunken
@moondrunken 9 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this game is there a more detailed price guide cause i tried pricing these items and i underprice the ones that are high and overprice the ones that are low
@darekcharlet9214
@darekcharlet9214 10 жыл бұрын
thank our savior ZiggyD!!!! Finally a guide to this!
@noodlepoodleoddle
@noodlepoodleoddle 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Ziggy, I have a question in regards to Righteous Fire. Initially I thought I will be fine if my max fire res plus life regen percentage is higher than ninety, but as of right now at 3700ish life, 84% fire res and about 8% life regen I have to rely on flasks to keep going. I'm not sure why the 8% life regen does not out heal the 6% RF damage.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
KpopNoodle YOu can really compare the regen to the % remaining. You have to calculate your life regen per second compared to your damage done to self per seconds. Remember that inner force (and the 5% buff effect from Templar) also affects the damage done to self as well!
@noodlepoodleoddle
@noodlepoodleoddle 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming Thanks for replying Ziggy. I went back and watched your tutorial on RF build again, respeced and grabbed more life regen nodes, and now it's working. You have really amazing PoE contents and you are very charismatic. I hope your future videos are even better. Happy Holidays!
@coulombeQC
@coulombeQC 10 жыл бұрын
you need about 10% regen from tree and 88 fire res ( 1 from tree, 3 from purity, + rise) running one atm and still regen some life
@MrDeolian
@MrDeolian 9 жыл бұрын
What item level should we start looking for, meaning when should I make it a point to pick up jewelry. You said 60 right?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 9 жыл бұрын
DEo Lian Yeah 60+ because thats when you can use it in chaos vendor recipe. However, I pick up all rare jewellery, occasionally lower level rare jewellery can be usable.
@MrDeolian
@MrDeolian 9 жыл бұрын
So should i hold onto my low level Jewelry? Would it be worth it? Could you possibly make a crafting guide for 2.0? I love all of you content, keep it coming otherwise !
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 9 жыл бұрын
DEo Lian My jewellery crafting guide hasn't really changed in 2.0, the same thing basically still works well as people always need decent jewellery. And only keep your lower level jewellery if you think it's good enough to sell or if you might want to use it to level another character later maybe.
@MrDeolian
@MrDeolian 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info !
@RonAsor
@RonAsor 9 жыл бұрын
You should refer to pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Item_affix instead of poemods since the mods are a bit outdated (new tiers available) also, you should check on masters and see which ones could provide you with a decent prefix/suffix of course exalting will provide the best rolls but it can also roll low ones, which, for beginning you may craft in order to get around rather cheaply
@torchit2302
@torchit2302 10 жыл бұрын
question about prismatic rings: does it make a difference to have an implicit 9% all res to a 10% all res? I know is a 1% more but to me it doesn't seem that huge difference...
@TheAlmightyZing
@TheAlmightyZing 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that it doesn't seem like much of a difference, but if you've got enough rings to get that 1% for no extra cost you might as well. Every little bit helps.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
It's the case where you might as well get the perfect implicit because you can. And if you view it as a % of the total amount a 9% roll is 10% off perfect. Some people also like to vaal the prismatics that don't roll well and for that you want a perfect implicit as you cannot change it once it corrupts. Nothing worse than a GG ring with an imperfect implicit!
@Zetobyx
@Zetobyx 10 жыл бұрын
What is this song? you might like the album Altered State by Tesseract.
@PorkChoppington
@PorkChoppington 8 жыл бұрын
Ziggy do you still handle jewelry this way and if so has the approximate pricing remained stable?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 8 жыл бұрын
Pricing is never really stable, you have to judge it item to item and league to league. The methods are still used and sound though!
@kev23dk
@kev23dk 8 жыл бұрын
why don't people hold down alt key to compare items? It also shows the item level
@Onimirare
@Onimirare 7 жыл бұрын
The video is from 2014, we are in 2017. You know, updates happen.
@jairus_kit123
@jairus_kit123 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for this.. super useful!
@rileyhatch4700
@rileyhatch4700 10 жыл бұрын
You said you can re roll master crafted rolls. How do you do that?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Riley Hatch A higher level master can remove a master stat for a scour orb
@rileyhatch4700
@rileyhatch4700 10 жыл бұрын
Oh NIce good to know
@_megazz
@_megazz 9 жыл бұрын
What's the song at the beginning?
@Saskobest
@Saskobest 8 жыл бұрын
i am confused a bit, i've seen bows with more than 200% increase physical dmg, while poeMods says max at ilvl73 is 169..
@iJolare
@iJolare 8 жыл бұрын
+Saskobest That's because there is a hybrid mod with %phys and accuracy which can give up to 79% phys.
@joshp.5714
@joshp.5714 9 жыл бұрын
You can now hold "ALT" and mouse over an Identified item to see the item level.
@kamenpetrovv
@kamenpetrovv 8 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the music ?
@fishtacos007
@fishtacos007 6 жыл бұрын
Does the item level of the white base item matter for crafting?
@LukusGamer
@LukusGamer 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does, low ilvl gear won't be able to roll the higher tiers of mods.
@caickP
@caickP 10 жыл бұрын
but if you sell all your rings how you will use them while leveling a new character? because i have a full tab with good rare rings but i keep them to use with others characters. or you think is better to sell them all?
@TheAlmightyZing
@TheAlmightyZing 10 жыл бұрын
I used to hoard all of my good leveling weapons when I first started playing, but found that I've been able to self-find upgrades for an early character easily enough that it wasn't worth the stash space. It comes down to RNG though. That being said, unless it's a ring that would be good for low level dueling you're probably better off vending for alch/alt shards. Just my personal opinion.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Sell them all and if you ever need something to level it'll be cheaper to buy it later with the currency you made. I never really need to use leveling jewellery though, I can usually find stuff that is good enough, especially if im using some other leveling gear like goldrim.
@Extreme22777
@Extreme22777 7 жыл бұрын
what are cs or counts u speak of
@fabioaugusto9477
@fabioaugusto9477 9 жыл бұрын
Whats the name of song at 10:00 ? =)
@fabioaugusto9477
@fabioaugusto9477 8 жыл бұрын
No answer ..... =(
@kelvinfalzon2931
@kelvinfalzon2931 8 жыл бұрын
idk, sry
@AzierWill
@AzierWill 10 жыл бұрын
Just realized I have the same headphones as you. Endgame headphones OP
@Ascentyon
@Ascentyon 10 жыл бұрын
Do you have a guild in Torment? Or is it private?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
ThundersLeague No in game guild going at the moment
@Vaguelz
@Vaguelz 10 жыл бұрын
I like how a cold resist suffix "Of the walrus" is better than "Of the yeti"
@helpmycatsonfire
@helpmycatsonfire 10 жыл бұрын
it's because I am the walrus
@Zeay
@Zeay 10 жыл бұрын
haha this music makes this tutorial 10x more epic!
@tehownerful
@tehownerful 10 жыл бұрын
I love PoE but I personally struggle with selling stuff and also setting up a shop so i've never really fully invested into it like I have with other games like Diablo 3. Just feels like it's hard to sell stuff. Also would need to spend some real life money just to get extra stash tabs playing without them is near impossible. EDIT: I was literally just offered for someone to buy my wow gold, TLDR; I swapepd it for PoE points and now I have 1200, how many premium stash tabs would I need to get to start up?
@AliShabirFazli
@AliShabirFazli 10 жыл бұрын
The more you play, the more stash tabs you would like.
@TheAlmightyZing
@TheAlmightyZing 10 жыл бұрын
I tend to wait for the premium tabs to go on sale. I know they were on sale this past weekend. They're on sale fairly often. I have about 22 tabs, which is enough for me in the 3-month leagues but Standard is getting pretty full.
@tehownerful
@tehownerful 10 жыл бұрын
AlmightyZing Yeah I just started Torment like 5 hours ago, waiting for Christmas day got a feeling there will be a special sale then.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Get like 10 to 15 and that'll be more than enough for a long while.
@hankmg5
@hankmg5 10 жыл бұрын
Can you do a tutorial like this one on how to make currency and what to flip and that kind of stuff?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
hankmg5 Haven't done any currency flipping myself but I will do an ID session of general loot and talk through that soon I think!
@hankmg5
@hankmg5 10 жыл бұрын
Alright thx
@pearlstudio526
@pearlstudio526 8 жыл бұрын
what do i do with maligaro's spike
@Fifikec
@Fifikec 8 жыл бұрын
It is a quest item, check this pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Maligaro%27s_Spike
@DiCapraLeo
@DiCapraLeo 8 жыл бұрын
How to craft le heup of all?
@MrPolypropylen
@MrPolypropylen 10 жыл бұрын
What class is that particular character?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
It's a Ranger!
@MrPolypropylen
@MrPolypropylen 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming The Reave build you posted a few videos back? Is that a "cheap" build or do i need several build-enabling uniques? Thank you, Ziggy!
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
MrPolypropylen It's pretty cheap to get started! I was mapping on a 3 link with a level 50 sword!!
@MrPolypropylen
@MrPolypropylen 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming I'll just follow your passive tree one-by-one! Or do you have a recommended 0-20, 21-40 etc tree? Keep up the good videos!
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
MrPolypropylen Nah I havent done a progression tree for it yet but it's pretty linear! And I think I might have briefly went over it in the first video of it.
@waschbaergott
@waschbaergott 10 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@juanquntos7123
@juanquntos7123 10 жыл бұрын
Did you actually end up selling most of them?
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
juan quntos Sold a few of them already yeah! Some of the 3c ones sold pretty quickly.
@richard2mitchell
@richard2mitchell 10 жыл бұрын
4:34 and i just shit my self....thanks ziggy
@AceTycho
@AceTycho 7 жыл бұрын
richard mitchell :-D
@jaredhill4367
@jaredhill4367 7 жыл бұрын
If the Average price of rings that you sell are 2c and it costs 1 alch to enchant, doesn't that give the base rings a value of 1.5c, meaning it would be worth re-rolling bad rings with c until they become sale-able, or am I missing something?
@cgosgosney4869
@cgosgosney4869 6 жыл бұрын
at what point? in the game did this happen when does a guy start doing this ?
@the_redshift
@the_redshift 10 жыл бұрын
Love ya ziggy
@Kvergetakis
@Kvergetakis 9 жыл бұрын
the method of alcing jewelers is ok but you need 75+ itemlvl to be worth so the problem is finding maps 74-75+ and be strong enough to run them properly most of people i know are stuck with 70-72 for the rest of their life
@unitedliars
@unitedliars 7 жыл бұрын
Why are Regal Orbs worth less than Chaos
@spordniar
@spordniar 10 жыл бұрын
I believe there's a hotkey for SBS item comparison, just FYR :)
@makingjames
@makingjames 9 жыл бұрын
This is why I feel Poe is slightly p2w as the stash tabs are really important for this and also to keep well-rolled items to sell to players. With only 4 stash tabs, I never keep good items for too long before trying to sell them. All I do is put them on trade chat for a few minutes and sell them if no one replies. Chaos and regal recipes and mass alcing of accesories also is very difficult with only 4 stash tabs. One tab for currency and flasks, one tab for gems, one tab for leveling or good items that's good for all builds, and I intentionally left a last tab for chaos recipe which is really not alot. I had to put all my unique on high level broken characters as my free stash tabs :(. I am not sure about the price of buying stash tabs but I am not intending to spend any money on any game so it's sort of my problem as well.
@makingjames
@makingjames 9 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to get rich with 4 stash tabs : (
@Niinami
@Niinami 9 жыл бұрын
makingjames It's not P2W, maybe Pay to Progress but even that's a stretch.
@MeatCognition
@MeatCognition 9 жыл бұрын
+makingjames Understandable, but know that GGG is able to update the game with new content because of the financial support of its player base. None of this would cost money if they charged everyone $40 up front, but F2P games always come with some caveats if you expect to progress efficiently. I bought some extra tabs, but only when I became really interested in PoE as a game, and the massive fun it is to lvl and trade. I decided it was a worthwhile investment to support a game I greatly enjoy, and honestly, 20 bucks for 6 customizable tabs isn't much to me. I do understand your pain though! At least PoE is a game that you can progress to late game through found items alone, and not some blatant cash grab like many F2P games out there. You just need RnGesus on your side.
@blameTheDane
@blameTheDane 8 жыл бұрын
+Ninami pay to progress? omg stop making up all these synonyms that never existed. It's pay2win, stop lying to yourself :D .. and hey, i paid the money, and have a lot of tabs.. and im winning.. it's pay2win, was not winning anything before that
@Niinami
@Niinami 8 жыл бұрын
Main Jesus, just because you're ignorant as fuck and have no knowledge with gaming terms doesn't mean they don't exists. Having tabs is winning? Damn you're literally braindead.
@tweeze123
@tweeze123 9 жыл бұрын
You know you've played PoE for a long time when your selling thought process is the same as here lol.
@Schnaqer
@Schnaqer 10 жыл бұрын
42 minutes? wow.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 10 жыл бұрын
Schnaqer If you guys like these longer "live tutorial" style videos I'll do more! I think sometimes the best way to learn some things in PoE is to actually see the entire process.
@Schnaqer
@Schnaqer 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming sure, i like the longer videos a lot
@TheJoiku7
@TheJoiku7 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming dude for sure man , i love these long tutorials vids :D
@laur.33
@laur.33 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming Really like seeing the whole process :)
@noxustds
@noxustds 10 жыл бұрын
ZiggyD Gaming Yep i learned a lot, i priced some rings i had that were decent and i made 1 exalt, most of them i sold them for 5c to 10c, i thought that was too much before watching this video.
@Illijixz-Alper
@Illijixz-Alper 9 жыл бұрын
this video is quite satisfying and informative, love u #nohomo :D
@HeadsetRuler
@HeadsetRuler 10 жыл бұрын
Axel Moonsong It's the itemlevel that matters.
@DennisAH
@DennisAH 9 жыл бұрын
Dude... PoEMods is not up to date. It has not the latest stats.Please make a comment on this!
@eyeofthasky
@eyeofthasky 7 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaa -.-, why did me never someone tell me this iron ring + gem recipe ... how often i damn needed white-quality res rings for other recipes >_>
@pvt.pingus1758
@pvt.pingus1758 10 жыл бұрын
41:53?! wh00t :D
@eaglecreeker494
@eaglecreeker494 8 жыл бұрын
Seriously bad to link POE.mods wich uses a survey / personal info questionare just not trusting of those types of sites and very poor taste imo to back a site that uses that type of solicitation and getting way too much info just to view a spreadsheet. I like your videos but will pass on ever logging into a site that wants more than a login account.
@ZiggyDGaming
@ZiggyDGaming 8 жыл бұрын
I made this quite a while ago and it looks like poemods has been sold - we use PoEAffix poeaffix.net/ in the community nowadays. Sadly I can't help what site owners do with their sites in the long term. I'll update description link.
@eaglecreeker494
@eaglecreeker494 8 жыл бұрын
yea i didnt mean to sound like it was your refereral,,,although looking at it it does read that way,,, more like a google or web type thing that could be from you tube or any engine, but imo im sure that most folks would follow any links you list and your work is way above any site that spams surveys,,,the link doesnt do anyone in a field like yours a very good public impression,,, bad pr even if you dont ever use it. If you have copies of the same info you could benefit maybe by using your own,,alot users avoid sites that demand personal info just to be safe.. keep up the great videos,,im older dirt but still learn from you guys.,,,,cheers
@SnowTerebi
@SnowTerebi 10 жыл бұрын
i dont wanna learn those so i just use alch for chest :P
@eduardvandebilt356
@eduardvandebilt356 7 жыл бұрын
Why do u talk about those items as if they were real money?? Are you actually making profit or loose cash by playing this game? Isn't better to go to a gambling site?
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 6 жыл бұрын
what did he say ?? if he traded a full set gear he will get a cow saw back ?? what ?? huh ??
@hip2thePOP
@hip2thePOP 10 жыл бұрын
talk slower take your time nobody going to kill u
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