Pathfinder:Kingmaker - Skill Monkey Rogue

[@HohenHeizen]

Race: Human (+INT) Ability: STR:13 DEC:15 CON:10 INT:18 WIS:10 CHA:14 Everything [LVL] [STAT] [Class LVL] - [FEAT] 1) Rogue (1) - Skill Focus - Persuasion, Deceitful 2) Rogue (2) - Fast Stealth 3) Rogue (3) - Persuasive, Finesse - Rapier 4) DEX Rogue (4) - Skill Focus - Trickery 5) Rogue (5) - Deft Hands 6) Rogue (6) - Combat Trick: Two Weapon Fighting 7) Rogue (7) - Martial Weapon Proficiency for Kukri (Or Dodge, kinda free) 8) DEX Rogue (8) - Combat Trick: Improved Two Weapon Fighting 9) Rogue (9) - Combat Reflexes 10) Rogue (10)- Opportunist 11) Rogue (11)- Outflank, Finesse - Kukri 12) DEX Rogue (12)- Improved Evasion 13) Rogue (13)- Seize the Moment 14) Rogue (14)- Double Debilitation Optional Change Class 15) Rogue (15)- Improved Critical: Kukri 16) DEX Rogue (16)- Combat Trick: Greater Two Weapon Fighting 17) Rogue (17)- Blind Fight 18) Rogue (18)- Combat Trick: Critical Focus 19) Rogue (19)- Tiring Critical, Finesse Training: Shortsword (Whatever) 20) Rogue (20)- Combat Trick: Exhausting Critical

[@hmgirlpopuri5819]

While it's not a bad build per se, if you want to be a skill monkey the Archaeologist Bard is really the way to go. You give up 1 skill point per level compared to the rogue, but you get 1/2 of your level to all lores, all knowledges, perception, and trickery. Plus the ability to take 10 on trickery checks. You lose your innate rogue sneak attack, but bards have sense vitals to grab up to 5d6 sneak attack when buffed.

[@MaxStoryTeller92]

I'm interested in this build. Do you have a detailed sheet or you got it from a forum or web?

[@marcoagostini7866]

If you fail to disarm a trap by 4 or less you can retry. If you fail to disarm a trap by more then 5 you trigger the trap (this is, at least, in pnp pathfinder).

[@ArcaneAgent]

But still those lock fails...

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yeah I just hate that you cant re roll a failed lock check

[@marcoagostini7866]

@@ArcaneAgent Disable a trap isn't the same as disable a lock even in pnp. A rule is still a rule, even if it doesn't make sense :(

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yes I understand that you can keep trying to disable a trap. But it just doesn't really make sense at all because in fact if I were messing around with a bear trap and I failed to disable it I could lose my hand. If I failed to disable a lock I might Jam the lock

[@ArcaneAgent]

The deal is the majority of other role playing games and DND games allow you to reroll missed locked chances

[@daedalusdreamjournal5925]

One last thing: you're also the first build maker I've seen on youtube who talks more exhaustively about companions in rapport to your builds, most people stop at "you'll probably have a guy in your group who has that." This build here however is the first one I've seen who is fully taking into account the presence of companions

[@ArcaneAgent]

A lot of people want me to work on a solo build but I've played enough role-playing games to know that there's so much story and Essence involved in the character development of your companions. But from what I seen everybody loves Tristan I just can't stand him Octavia is my girlfriend though don't tell my wife

[@daedalusdreamjournal5925]

@@ArcaneAgent I have a hunch that, if you play a rogue based on attacks of opportunity like this; with somes skills very (especially stealth but also use magic device) that you might like to include nok-nok in your group at some point. Because, it seems that two such characters could ehance each other very well. Also, at earlier levels, a monster tactician might also be of great help. I also found that turned Amiri into a freebooter while keeping linzi pure bard for 10 or so levels works wonders: Inspire courage+freebooter bond+Freebooter bane (plus say heroism from linzi) really boosts a party capacity to hirt and do damage ... especially if smilodons are involved (smilodonS ... plural :P) PS: won't tell your wife about octavia ... good thing she's polyamorous though :P

[@ArcaneAgent]

Is she polyamorous? Sinner

[@daedalusdreamjournal5925]

@@ArcaneAgent Don't blame me, blame the developers ... I imagine they wanted everyone to be able to be with her without feeling stepping on other players toes ... dev ... sinners! all of them!!! ( was a dev once upon a time :P)

[@ArcaneAgent]

And Yes. Rogue because of unlocking and disarming everything, also stealth and sneak attacks. And wizards for full spellcastings. A lvl 30 build would further include druid or cleric mystic theurge into the mix

[@jholland9850]

Anyone else wish this game had actual dialog from the main character

[@Soonzuh]

KZbinr fear: being deplatformed due to selecting wrong weapon in a crpg. 5:19

[@ArcaneAgent]

Seriously though KZbin be like that sometimes. Check me out on twitch. As I still stream kingmaker there. www.twitch.tv/thearcaneagent

[@Soonzuh]

@@ArcaneAgent I have no doubt, because KZbin has gone totally bonkers. They're demonetizing such a superb educational channel as "The Great War". It's crazy!

[@ArcaneAgent]

@@Soonzuh its one of the reasons I'm pushing more people to my twitch

[@zeronamefirstname3628]

Could you please explain: how can I set up a trap? and where can I obtain it?

[@ArcaneAgent]

There are sadly no trap kits in kingmaker as of yet, the only things that work like a "trap" are certain spells

[@RaiofLight]

23:00 I find it it kinda weird scrolls aren't used up on a failed umd check and you can keep trying until it succeeds with same scroll. In nwn they were one shot tries and the scroll crumbled on a failed check. I guess I am not quite used to Pathfinder ruleset yet... ^^' I am guilty of the hoarder reflex of saving potions/scrolls until late game as well, trying to find the perfect moment of using them, and forgetting about them in the end. :P

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yes it doesn't make sense that you can keep rolling use magic device on a scroll 30 times until you pass it but if you fail a locked chest one time you have to level up and come back and reroll again

[@RaiofLight]

@@ArcaneAgent True, that was weird too. Added both Octavia and Lindzi to the party in my first game (druid) for that reason. At the moment, if one (Lindzi) fails, the other succeeds.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Tru

[@michaelcampbell8601]

I would like to see a lawful evil Scaled Fist monk build. Ideally something with sneak attack or self buffing.

[@orarinnsnorrason4614]

Since Tristian is a ecclisetheurge and can't use armor, I made him take 2 levels of monk for evasion (best ability in the game) and the sweet AC from wisdom. More cleric levels gives you more spells to heal/buff. but if you want more dmg you could go for more monk levels. And make sure you're human for more free feats and skills, you can't go wrong. Also you must be Lawful to combine these two classes. Normally Tristian doesn't qualify but I respecced him with a mod. Just wanted to add that.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Oooh this I can do!!!

[@ArcaneAgent]

You dirty respeccer you!!!

[@orarinnsnorrason4614]

Yeah, well. Can't be bothered running around with created characters so I just respecced the story companions into what I want :) Just the main dude and one other is created. This is my A-team: myself (fighter 2/paladin 18) human Valerie fighter 2 eldrich knight 3 sorcerer 15 human respecced to lawful neutral, her dragon kin is a silver dragon Amiri Barbarian 4 (rager variant) Rogue 2 (Thug) Druid 14 (defender of the world variant) respecced to neutral good Dwarf fighter 2 cleric 18 lawful good Regongar rogue 2 magus 18 (sword scion) (dex+int focus) respecced to elf chaotic good Octavia rogue 2 wizard 8 arcane trickster 10 respecced to elf chaotic good this team is fantastic :)

[@Hellrour]

I have been playing with a barbarian animal totem unarmed combat guy. Would love to see your take on it.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Must. Stop. Making. Rogue. Videos.

[@pjsstream5418]

Congrats on 4k subs

[@ArcaneAgent]

I try. Now get on fortnite

[@drnoone3596]

BTW I looked it up, a lock with a difficulty of 1 is actually a counter clock wise door knob.... Great tubes... thx

[@ArcaneAgent]

Haha

[@ArcaneAgent]

Lefty loosy righty tighty

[@drnoone3596]

Liquid Plays haha funny. But wouldn’t that be a Lore Check?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Knowledge world?

[@kevanick]

Hi, literally just found your builds last night while I was going to retry my Pathfinder Kingmaker game after screwing up on the Chapter 1 story and I'm loving these guides. I have one question: I tried to follow this guide but somehow when I went to put ability points in I either didn't have enough for Intelligence (16 +3) or Charisma (10 +0). And for some reason only have 22 points while the build video has 25 ability points. My race is the same as the video (human) the only thing that may make the difference is when you pick the rogue class you are given the option of feats with favored class, and either Bonus Hit Point or Bonus Skill Rank.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Hmmm could be a bug on my end or your end

[@Chaotik_Pranxter]

Sure it was main character creation and not a merc from Eight-Eyes? MC comes with 25 point buy, mercs come with 20. Not including racial bonus

[@PhDrKoci]

Im not even playing Pathfonder, still sacrificed my left hand.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Hahahahhahaha this genuinely made me laugh in a hallway of people

[@sleeplessbard2519]

Named Kalim after kalam mekhar from malazan?

[@thomashumphrey73]

I'm just waiting on pure range build.but this toon is an awesome group toon. he needs support.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Well wait till Wednesday for that ranged build

[@LegioKaiser]

So im Struggling with a MAD Off-tank Crusader (Iomedae - War), and id love for you to take a crack at it. So far its human Crusader, Iomedae, War Weapon focus currently Bastard Sword Trying to do Intimidation / Dazzling Display (Thus MAD) Okay with 5-7 levels outside of Crusader (Starting at lvl 5) (currently a 20point merc) Give it a swing :)

[@ArcaneAgent]

Why did you capitalize the word mad? Is this some sort of acronym I'm supposed to know or were you just kind of emphasizing the word mad as in angry?

[@LegioKaiser]

Yes its an Acronym for multi attribute dependant. In my example, i need Str, Con, Wis, cha, and pref some dex. But you can take a crack at it, im thinking its most likely better to drop the Dazzling intimidation tactics. @@ArcaneAgent

[@ArcaneAgent]

Ok. I'm trying to wonder why you WOULD want to go MAD hehe. Like I get it being unique but the reason I would roll a monk druid, sylvan sorcerer is all because of stacking wisdom easy

[@LegioKaiser]

Ye, i know... I guess i go MAD to increase the utility of my Merc (My main is usually Sorc of some sort) @@ArcaneAgent

[@daedalusdreamjournal5925]

What a strange but original build! I am wondering if some feats could not be replaced to take advantage of that huge persuasion skill level you'll get at some point of the game. Some general comments about your video kingmaker: 1. Don't take it the wrong; what I am gonna say might strange and like a thumbs down but is anything but : You are not the best build maker on the internet out there ... which oddly makes you the best I've seen. Why? Because you know it, and since you know it, you're getting better with. Also, you're the first one to make so much effort to show what your builds look like in game, without trying to sugarcoat its weaknesses. And while some guys on youtube might be better at this, they often fail to double check their build in the game, often focusing on 20th level galore only, forgetting it's not an MMO but a single player game. 2. Speaking of which, you talked about using one your build for a real full game and post it here (the high save sorcerer build I believe). I am really hoping to see the build in full action soon. And having personally tested it a bit (till lelvel 8), I can tell you it has a lot of potential ;) Just a single piece of advice on that build, you do not need 15 strength anymore, since smilodons and pets in general seem to add to total carrying capacity, and having a higher CON score makes you less squishy ... and requires you to rest less often (yes CON has a big impact there, anyone who had Octavia for some time in their group probably know why I am talking since she's often the first to get tired, starting with CON of 8°. Anyways; kuddo and good continuation with your channel, hoping to see your full LP of kingmaker one of these days ;) The reach magus seems it might works as well btw PS: Forgot to add a few comments on this particular build, like I said theres the persuasion thingy but also the use device skill and I am wondering if, feat wise, it might not be preferrable to give it priority early since it opens all those scrolls, staves and so on early to your build (and kuddos for pointing out the tendency of players like you or me to hoard stuff ... and not use it, another reason why I might try this build, but with the focus on use magic device early). Cheers :)

[@ArcaneAgent]

I was working on a build where every single feet was going to be a skill check feet. But I knew that that would be boring for people as they keep asking me as well to get some more combat feats in there. I'm still toying with the idea of what kind of character class I would do a playthrough with. Of course I'm in love with casters and Rogues. So I think it would need to be some blend of those which always brings me back to an Arcane trickster type build. I do need to work more on my bills and I don't know that much about the Pathfinder as I would. I'm always torn between making Powerhouse overpowered builds and just unique but fun builds

[@Abc123rage]

Archaelogist better?

[@MuppetLord1]

fast stealth on a monk 18, 2 rogue would be pretty cool no?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Yes especially since monks get their full speed at 18

[@EidolonSpecus]

If you want to avoid demonetization, just use the original French prnonciation for "râpière". Râ-pi-è-re = rah-pee-heh-r.

[@brycemendez6963]

how do you have 25 starting ability score when i start a human rogue i get 22

[@pixelpox11]

MC gets more stats then hire

[@poseidonzfury920]

Hello awesome build! I know I'm late to the party and I really hope this is seen. If I don't mind going slower while stealth, what would be your alternative to fast stealth at lvl 2.? Thank you for all your builds, they are super unique. I'm new to the game and there is a whole lot to take in, feel like I'm back in college trying to learn everything lol

[@poseidonzfury920]

Skill focus: perception?

[@ArcaneAgent]

Definitely perception

[@GingerEmpireYT]

Hope life is treating you well brother!

[@ArcaneAgent]

It is. Got my nylon fallout 76 bag in, got my account information blasted to the whole world, also got banned for making jokes about the gays. Jk I dont play that broken game

[@jjmdirector]

Dual Wielding Ranger/Barbarian

[@ArcaneAgent]

Ranger is wednesday

[@bigb1078]

For the traps if you fail the DC to deactivate them by 5 or less you can retry. With a chest or lock you can fail so hard that you break the lock and its stuck. All these rules only apply to the pen and paper but jist an FYI to give you an idea as ro why they make traps that way.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Stink

[@pjsstream5418]

I'm on if u want to play session 7

[@ArcaneAgent]

Ew no

[@SuperLawilson]

I will sacrifice the right arm. Left handed here. You would hate my right hand typing. ATROCIOUS!

[@ArcaneAgent]

Probably as bad as my left

[@pmarreck]

Fucking LOL @ 11:13

[@ArcaneAgent]

Haha so glad that paid off

[@pmarreck]

Little touches like that go a long way I think

[@ArcaneAgent]

I shall endeavor to afford more memes

[@rudamachoo]

ray-pier 😝 (reɪpiər)

[@mauricionavarro8224]

first!!! ;) nice video

[@GintamaEnjoyer_1]

Салют! Arcane Agent редко оставляю комментарии под видео, но этот прекрасный ролик просто вынудил меня сделать это поэтому бегом подписываться на мой канал! (шутка... хотя на самом деле нет)))

[@timfriday9106]

lol. ray-pure not rappy-er lol

[@jamesbrice3267]

Only Donald Trump could fail a persuasion check with 29 points.

[@ArcaneAgent]

Hahhaha that or kanye

[@Chaotik_Pranxter]

Which Kanye? He's even admitted that he's got multiple people in his head. Lol