Patrick Moore on Being Controversial and Cancelled | No Nonsense with Pamela Wallin

Concern over misinformation and disinformation are part of the climate debate. Longtime activist Patrick Moore on being controversial and cancelled... on No Nonsense.

[@user-uq5ww1jg5e]

Pamela Wallin reaching out to Patrick Moore for instruction. So, refreshing.

[@gordonmarr6463]

Thank you Dr Patrick Moore. I would have loved to meet yourself. We owned land just outside Courtney for years with plans to build. Sadly my folks at the time were killed in a car crash and as a result we did not pursue the Island again. They resided in Qualicum. We now reside inPV MX and Kelowna BC. Alberta boy tho thru and thru. Ha.

[@suziesmith2142]

Dr. Moore is a GEM. He has such a breadth of knowledge of climate, botany, geology- ALL the sciences and how they work together. Sit back and listen to a man with a PHD in Ecology.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Moore isn't a climate scientist, nor has he published any peer-reviewed climate papers. Once an admired forest ecologist, he switched sides years ago to go to work for the very industries he and Greenpeace used to fight: the mining industry, the plastics industry, the nuclear industry, and the oil industry.

[@sjambler]

There's a third Nobel prize linked to the use of nitrogen fertilisers: Norman Borlaug, father of the Green Revolution. From Wikipedia: he "is credited with saving over a billion people worldwide from starvation." "Taller wheat grasses better compete for sunlight but tend to collapse under the weight of the extra grain-a trait called lodging-from the rapid growth spurts induced by nitrogen fertilizer Borlaug used in the poor soil. To prevent this, he bred wheat to favor shorter, stronger stalks that could better support larger seed heads."

[@clairerobsin]

this is great Pamela, thank you.

[@wingman9154]

Why don't "they" ever talk about those who are doing Geoengineering ? i e screwing with the weather ? that has to be a factor in the changes some are discussing, but it is NEVER Mentioned as a weather factor.

[@ClimateRealism]

Because it is not real. It is a silly stance on an issue that does not exist.

[@gilschiller1058]

Two books people should read : The corruption of climate science. By tim ball phd. The delinquent teenager. By donna laframboise. Both are canadian . Well worth the read.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Here are also two very good books. "The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels" and "Fossil Future" both by Alex Epstein. Cheers.

[@thegeneralist7527]

@@anthonymorris5084 I'm not a fan of Epstein only because he buys into the idea that CO2 causes warming.

[@thegeneralist7527]

So many great Canadians almost no-one knows about.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@thegeneralist7527 To invalidate Epstein over this is rather harsh and myopic. CO2 is a proven greenhouse gas. It's indisputable. The simple truth that everyone loves to ignore is that it is an incredibly insignificant greenhouse gas which is Epstein's position. Pretending this isn't true would just cause him to lose credibility and arm the alarmists. Epstein is the voice of reason in the climate discussion, and you are dismissing an incredibly important individual in the war against this draconian, anti human cult.

[@wandameadows5736]

There's a new FREE documentary you need to check out called "Climate: The Movie (The Cold Truth)" released just recently in 2024 Directed by Martin Durkin that answers a lot of your questions. Patrick Moore is in it along with a lot of Scientist.

[@gordonmarr6463]

And yes. Nuclear energy is perfectly safe and manageable. It is the future. LENR.

[@mrunning10]

Atomic is the ONLY tech known NOW that can pull us out of this fucking mess.

[@zazenite6097]

You could not be more wrong. Do some research on Yuka Mountain. Nuclear energy is just like communism. Its great on paper, but equals 100's of millions dead. When implemented. Because people and government (the few controling the many) ruin it. Yuka Mountain is a total failure. The "temporary Nuclear waste holding sights" all around the country can no longer be moved to yuka Mountain because they are leaking. Waiting to be moved ro yuka Mountain because after decades over budget and over due still is not finished. Because of mismanagement and government control. The temp holding sights are leaking and killing milions slowly. And the governor and the people of Nevada have said that even if yuka Mountain is ever finished they dont want it used to house Nuclear waste. At this point the current stTe of yuka Mountain and its construction is no longer certifable to contain waste because of government overruns waste and fraud. Also think of the train derailment in ohio what if that had been a trainload of Nuclear waste, you can not trust the government to not screw that up and get millions of square miles toxic to all life.

[@bradpederson4510]

Refreshing discussion. Thank you both, you are rational thinkers helping to combat the insanity. Cheers all.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Moore isn't a climate scientist and has been debunked by those who are.

[@realbuzzgrant]

Great guest!

[@user-vz8ln7pr7e]

His remarks about human life and the amazing beauty of our planet are very striking.

[@mrunning10]

How about the co2?

[@user-uq5ww1jg5e]

I truly respect Dr. Patrick Moore. He is so knowledgeable.

[@RoaldLarsenrjl]

OMG!! Why can't she shut up, let him talk ..

[@sdev2749]

exactly - her ignorance and unwillingness to listen to him just angered me all through this interview.

[@user-vz8ln7pr7e]

A smart scientist to listen to!!! The public needs to listen

[@mrunning10]

Listen to conspiracy no-science HORSESHIT?

[@marcen3486]

Great talk and lots of interesting delails showing how glbal public has been manipulated.

[@tovamain3960]

Thanks for all you do.

[@mrunning10]

Moore does SHIT, and gets PAID by fossil fuel PACs to do it.

[@thomasetavard2031]

I thought he was crazy, but he became a hero to me. One of my favorite people Dr. Patrick Moore, I have loved you and your work since I first heard of your activity in the 70s. I also remember your departure of Greenpeace over Chlorine. Keep up your great work.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Moore quit his forest ecology gig to work for the very polluting industries he and Greenpeace used to fight. Much more money in industry than in environmentalism.

[@MichaelMcCausland-pg6qs]

Paradigm shift in the Naradigm

[@Welshwizard113]

Greenwashing, nut zero are sending us back at a rate of knots, we'll be peasants

[@philerator]

For non-Canadian viewers, Pamela Wallin is a Senator in the Senate of Canada. She's formally retired from journalism now but during her journalist career was one of the very top journalists in Canada. It is wonderful to see Senator Wallin interviewing Dr. Moore. It is something of a watershed in my book.

[@user-vz8ln7pr7e]

She is not promoting general geological knowledge that you should learn in high school or college.

[@clairerobsin]

'Fake catastrophes and threats of doom'!

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Sea level has risen four inches since 1993 and its rate of rise has doubled, according to NASA and the World Meteorological Organization. Satellite altimeters and worldwide tide gauges agree on the numbers. Two different methodologies, same numbers. Pretty tough to discredit that, Claire. According to NOAA, high tide flooding along the American south and Gulf coasts has risen an astonishing 400% and 1100% respectively since the year 2000. Maine, which is uplifting land from glacial rebound, suffered a record high tide in January that caused $100 million in damages. Meanwhile, the City Dock neighborhood of Annapolis is flooding out 60 times a year now, forcing the closures of streets and businesses. Queens, NY is also flooding on a reglar basis. New York and Louisiana, in fact, have a combined $100 billion in new flood mitigation projects in the works. Miami Beach has raised 105 miles of roads. Up and dwn the coastlines, cities and towns are emptying their coffers to find solutions to hold back the growing tide. Science knows exactly where this is going. The last time CO2 reached 400ppm, sea level rose 29 feet, according to the University of South Hampton. The only reason we haven't seen 29 feet yet is time, as sea level greatly lags CO2. But we're on our way, with a rate of rise that's steadily accelerating and will only get worse as we continue to warm and melt the icecaps. Patrick Moore is not a climate scientist. He is a PR spokesman for the energy industry and has served as a head of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by the fossil fuel industry to increase the use of gas and oil. He has also been roundly debunked in the scientific literature, which is why I always urge people to seek rebuttals before believing anyone, especially someone who is not a climate scientist and has no climate science training.

[@FernandoWINSANTO]

Who was da guy with hokey stick f... sorry fame ...

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@FernandoWINSANTO Michael Mann. His hockey stick data has been confirmed by over 30 studies and is affirmed by the National Academy of Sciences.

[@FernandoWINSANTO]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 I am not a believer sorry. Have a nice evening Sir.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@FernandoWINSANTO So you no longer believe in science?

[@exploder78]

Great informative interview.

[@wandameadows5736]

There's a new FREE documentary you need to check out called "Climate: The Movie (The Cold Truth)" released just recently in 2024 Directed by Martin Durkin that answers a lot of your questions. Patrick Moore is in it along with a lot of Scientist.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@wandameadows5736 See 'CLIMATE: THE MOVIE; A HOT MESS", a debunking from beinning to end by Skeptical Science.

[@CETK1]

Why do i believe in the climate crisis? I feel like I am questioning everything now.

[@karollbrinton8317]

Yes we should do our own research. Provided the material we research is authentic and unbiased.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Why? Eleven separate studies confirm the scientific consensus on climate change. ELEVEN. Over 80 academies of science and ALL of the world's scientific institutions, from NASA to NOAA to the World Meteorological Organization, publicly endorse the consensus position, which is precisely why every nation on earth is a card-carrying member of the IPCC. In 2021, Cornell University surveyed the over 88000 climate studies published from 2012-2020 and tallied a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's climate change. Even Exxon's own scientists in leaked memos have acknowledged that combusted fossil fuels are warming the planet to a damaging degree. By contrast, Patrick Moore is not a climate scientist but has made his living as a PR spokesman for the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight: the plastics industry, the mining industry, the nuclear industry. He's also a former head of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. He has also been roundly debunked in the scientific literature. Moore believes climate change is natural and harmless and that more CO2 would be good for us. The American Physical Society, with its over 50,000 physicist members, vehemently disagrees, calling today's climate change "unequivocally human-caused" and "urges swift action" to mitigate the damage our emissions are causing. 0.1% of publishing climate scientists disagree with the 99.9% consensus. Moore isn't even part of the 0.1% because he isn't a climate scientist. If 99 bridge engineers warn me not to cross a irckety bridge for fear of imminent collapse, I'm not sure how much confidence I would have in the one lone dissenter assuring me of the bridge's safety and urging me to cross, especially when he'll be collecting a toll from me on the other side.

[@suziesmith2142]

Because our "news" is reporting the propaganda that our "political scientists" are PAID to deliver. Unless a scientist produces what the govt wants, they are De-Funded. THIS IS A FACT.

[@tommykeenan4930]

Because all the media love a catastrophe story because people become interested and the actual scientists they put at 93% say it is a catastrophe has been manipulated for maximum effect on us. I believe Patrick and the world class scientists that oppose the disaster it is made out to be.

[@mrunning10]

@@karollbrinton8317 And what does YOUR "research" forecast?

[@gordonmarr6463]

Not a theory Pam. Politicians have been doing this for decades. Look at statement from McKinnon on tape is a bar saying “if we say it long enough and enough times they will believe it”. Environment minister at the time for J Castro.

[@wandameadows5736]

@Pamela Wallin There's a new FREE documentary you need to check out called "Climate: The Movie (The Cold Truth)" released just recently in 2024 Directed by Martin Durkin that answers a lot of your questions. Patrick Moore is in it along with a lot of Scientist.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Yes, Patrick Moore and all of the other usual deniers, most having been funded by the fossil fuel industry. See the movie completely debunked at the Skeptical Science website.

[@user-bq2mv6fg3v]

Thumbs up for him thumbs down for her😅

[@kartoffelsalatz]

I recommend to everyone, interested in why Attenborough and his ilk are doing what they're doing, to check out his book/movie "Life on Our Planet: My Witness Statement".

[@gordonmarr6463]

Dr Moore. Thank you for your truth and I love it.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

The truth? Hardly. Beware of Moore's cherry-picked data, fake climate graphs, verbal sleight of hand and little lies of omission, all of which he employs in his presentations. Moore is the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. He has also been a fellow at the Heartland Institute, also funded by the fossil fuel industry. Moore is not a climate scientist. Although his degree is in forest ecology, he's not a forest ecologist. He's a a long-time spokesman for the energy industry.

[@gordonmarr6463]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 sorry. I don’t equate what you are saying any Truth. I have been all over Canada and to the North Pole. You Climate extremists can think and do what you want but please do it on YOUR dime.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@gordonmarr6463 It's a shame that fossil fuel industry propaganda has so egregiously shifted your perception. ELEVEN separate studies confirm the scientific consensus on climate change, Gordon. ELEVEN. Over 80 academies of science and ALL of the world's scientific institutions, from NASA to NOAA to the World Meteorological Organization publicly endorse the consensus position, which is precisely why every nation on earth is a card-carrying member of the IPCC. In 2021, Cornell University surveyed the over 88000 climate studies published from 2012-2020 and tallied a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's climate change. Even Exxon's own scientists in leaked memos have acknowledged that combusted fossil fuels are warming the planet to a damaging degree. By contrast, debunked scientists like Patrick Moore make up the 0.1% who reject the 99.9% consensus. If 99 bridge engineers warn me to stay off a rickety bridge for fear of collapse, I'm not sure how wise it is to listen to the one lone dissenter who just so happens to have a toll to collect from me on the other side of that bridge.

[@stranarn1]

And if the Big guys stop the Weather terror with the HAARP system and some more drivers , we would have even more pleasant weather without earthquake and fake storms , and so on , all my respect for you Patrick Moore 🥰🤪👍

[@bphoenix777]

I admire his patience with that woman who is so obviously not listening and constantly interrupting his talk. He really seems tired at the end.

[@user-xl1wm3oc7g]

Another comment on an unused type of energy. You can use hydride, which is hydrogen stored as hydride in tanks (like the ones that fill up balloons). You need a particle accelerator and a banned element that is used in nuclear weapons, then you can make this fuel for cars. The tanks do not explode if impacted or even from bullets....very safe. Only issue is to design a well-functioning device to alert of any hydrogen leaking in car, linked to an alarm. ITs an unlikely danger and the driver would be alerted so quickly they could turn off the vehicle and leave it with windows open till the alarm shut off. A tank would take you hundreds of KM or Miles, and without using any of the fossil fuels. You can also create a hybrid car where you can switch over between fuels. Not difficult.

[@gordonmarr6463]

Dr Moore and people like him need to be listened and understand. We may loose them soon and who then will speak the Truth?

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Moore is a spokesman for the energy industry, not a climate scientist.

[@gordonmarr6463]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 haha. You are so mislead.

[@iancormie9916]

One has to wonder why Orcas have not started using the East Coast seal population as a food source.

[@anthonymorris5084]

Data proves that humanity has never been safer, healthier or more prosperous than at any time in history, by almost any measurement you care to examine. Life flourishes under warming.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

We are indeed safer and healthier than ever before. So why would we want to allow climate change to reverse that by increasing sea levels, storm surges and high tide flooding? Or by intensifying hurricanes and expanding wildfire seasons? Or by increasing heatwaves, marine heatwaves, ocean acidification, extreme precipitation events, droughts, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases? Phoenix suffered through 31 straight days of temperatures above 110 degrees last summer. You can't grow crops at that temperature because photosynthesis literally stops at 104 degrees, and many seeds won't even germinate. Canada last year suffered the largest wildfire burn acreage in its history. So did Texas. Canadian burn acreage has doubled in forty years. Ditto the U.S. Greece last summer suffered the largest wildfire in European history. In 2015, the record drought in the Amazon killed an estimated 2.5 billion plants and trees. To everyone's shock, that record was broken just 8 years later, with an even worse drought accompanied by wildfires. Because of the humidity levels in rain forests, nobody expects them to burn up. Yet they are. Two years ago a marine heatwave off Washington state killed billions of clams, mussels and starfish and millions of seabirds. A marine heatwave off Alaska killed an estimated 10 billion snow crabs. Due to rapidly warming waters, the cod and shrimp fishery off Maine has collapsed. Contrary to popular belief, fish don't simply move further north to colder water. They first suffer a massive die-off, and when the remaining schools move they may move to waters too distant for fishermen to profitably harvest. We have made tremendous progress as a species, but giving credit to warming ignores the much larger contributions by science and innovation and cultural and government organization while overlooking the damage that too much of a good thing (warming) can cause.

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Arguing with you is painful. Sea levels have been rising for 10,000 years, unabated. There is nothing anybody can do to stop this. If you think we can, you're delusional. There is no evidence of intensifying hurricanes. You are blatantly lying. Your wildfire comment has no logic. If summers start earlier so do wildfires. Are you against summer? Should we shorten summer to snuff out wildfires? Guess how many benefits come with an earlier summer? The ministry of natural resources Canada clearly shows that fires have been in decline for 44 years. Before humans existed who put out the fires? Nobody. Not any of the other events you proselytize about have come true. Ah, so all the wildlife is going to perish, but the tics will all thrive. Right because all the cute and fluffy life with die, but all of the evil harmful life will thrive. This is your twisted logic. All bad, all scary, all the time. That's just your first paragraph. The rest isn't even worth replying to. No doubt you'll continue to cite the exact same lies as you continue to incessantly post them to me

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@anthonymorris5084 I make up nothing . Ever. And yes, cognitive dissonance when confronted with information opposite from one's dogmatic beliefs is painful isn't it? Here you can look up everything I posted and verify them for yourself. If everything I post is made up explain to me why insurers from Allstate to State Farm are ending coverage in flood and fire-prone states. See ATLANTIC HURRICANES GETTING STRONGER FASTER, STUDY FINDS, NY Times, Oct 10, 2023. EVEN WEAK HURRICANES ARE GETTING STRONGER AS THE CLIMATE CHANGES, Scientific American, Nov 17, 2022 HURRICANES BECOMING SO STRONG THAT NEW CATEGORY IS NEEDED, the Guardian,Feb 5, 2024 CLIMATE CHANGE IS MAKING HURRICANES STRONGER, STUDY SAYS, The Weather Channel, Feb 24, 2024 TYPHOONS GETTING STRONGER, MAKING LANDFALL MORE OFTEN, Eos.org, Aug 2, 2020 ASIAN TYPHOONS GROWING MORE INTENSE, STUDY FINDS, the Guardian, Sep 5, 2016 ARCTIC CYLONES HAVE BECOME MORE INTENSE AND LONGER-LIVED, Nature, Oct. 2, 2023 Yes, summers start earlier, and yes that's increasing wildfire burn acreage, costing the world billions of dollars. The increase in damage has made some insurance companies stop coverage. Average sea level rise throughout the 20th century was 1.2 mm per year. Today it's 5mm per year. See RATE OF SEA LEVEL RISE HAS DOUBLED IN A DECADE, from the World Meteorological Org. The sea level rise you referred to was from changes in earth's axial tilt, which increased solar insolation in the northern atmosphere, and melted ice and permafrost, allowing the release of CO2 and methane. Axial tilt reached its maximum 10,700 years ago and has been receding ever since, now at 23.4 degrees. PACE OF RISE IN SEA LEVEL HAS DOUBLED, UN CLIMATE REPORT SAYS You're also confusing the number of Canadian fires with the stats on burn acreage. MORE land is burning today. That's because dried-out lands from higher temperatures burn and spread faster See: CLIMATE CHANGE DROVE DROUGHT IN THE AMAZON RECORD TEMPERATURES AND HEATWAVES BRING UNPRECDENTED DROUGHT TO THE AMAZON BASIN, EVERYTHING IS DEAD: HOW RECORD DROUGHT IS WREAKING HAVOC IN THE AMAZON THE AMAZON'S RECORD-BREAKING DROUGHT See NOAA HIGH TIDE FLOODING BILLIONS OF SNOW CRAB DEATHS OFF ALASKA LINKED TO MARINE HEATWAVE INSURERS SUCH AS STATE FARM AND ALL STATE ARE LEAVING FIRE AND FLOOD-PRONE AREAS WINTER TICKS WIPED OUT NEARLY 90% OF MOOSE CALVES NASA LINKS SEVERE STORM INCREASES, GLOBAL WARMING

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 You cite and follow media, not data. You follow media embellishment, hyperbole and sensationalism and then parrot their nonsense. The Guardian? New York Times? Seriously? All data shows no change in hurricane ferocity or frequency - Our World in Data, and every single hurricane graph you choose to google proves this. Here's how your logic works - Summers are starting earlier so forest fires start earlier. You're literally arguing against summer. Egad more summer. If summer starts earlier then we will experience *more of* every single positive and every single negative aspect of summer. While simultaneously we will experience *Less of* every single positive and every single negative aspect of winter. This you incessantly refer to as a catastrophe, because with you, everything is all bad, all the time, always. You just willfully ignore all the positives because they ruin your apocalyptic nonsense. Same with your nonsense about pine beetles and tics. You whine incessantly about how warming is going to kill everything, then you cite all of the terrible life forms that will thrive. You argue both sides of the coin incessantly always supporting - all bad, all the time, always. Both Canadian data (44 years) and American data (75 years) and Our World in Data show a precipitous decline in both burn acreage and fires. Please enlighten me, were there forest fires when there were no humans? Who put out the fires? Nobody. How did the world survive? A hundred years ago we used bucket brigades, today we use jet aircraft and numerous other technological advances. Your user name should be Chicken Little. And writing in all caps just proves your demand for submission.

[@iancormie9916]

It is unfortunate that we, the taxpayers, have to employ pompus know-nothings that feel a need to tell us to hang our cloths on a cloths line.

[@gordonmarr6463]

Exactly. How can fossil fuels be so bad when we are simply refining and replenishing earth with what it has always had.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

How can fossil fuels be so bad? Sea level rise, expanded wildfire seasons, intensified hurricanes, reduced farm productivity, and increased heatwaves, marine heatwaves, ocean acidification, extreme precipitation events, droughts, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases. Sea level rise alone has forced New York and Louisiana to begin to erect a combined $100 billion in new flood mitigation projects. High tide flooding along the American south and Gulf coasts is up 400% and 1100% respectively since the year 2000, according to NOAA. Maine is uplifting land from glacial rebound yet in January suffered a record high tide that caused $100 million in damages. And we're just getting started.

[@gordonmarr6463]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 and yet Obama builds an oceanfront mansion on the water. All lies. Left Lunatics.

[@gordonmarr6463]

Moore is exactly correct. Nuclear waste can be used over again and again. It may not be as efficient in delivering initial output but it is very efficient.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Beware, Moore is a PR spokesman for the energy industry, and has worked on behalf of both the nuclear industry and the oil industry. He's not a climate scientist and has been debunked by those who are.

[@clairerobsin]

@59:40 ...were it not for the Food, the Shelter and Clothing and furry little outfits for the Ladies, I really don't know what we would have done 'till now!

[@clairerobsin]

nope, I don't think it could've been done without those things.

[@sdev2749]

Pamela, I got so frustrated with you in this interview, you kept cutting Patrick off while he was explaining scientific fasts. Your ignorance and unwillingness to listen and learn is astounding. You need to modify your interviewing skills and start to listen to people like patrick. I wanna get mad at you but is just not worth it. I was going to subscribe to you but after this display I chose not to.

[@charlesyoung1464]

'Fighting climate change is akin to trying to alter gravitational forces!' Ned Nikolov(a really interesting scientist to perhaps invite)! He doesn't share at all Patrick Moore's belief that Co2(96% from oceans) can magically alter earthly temperatures or adversely modify the weather(in other interviews)....he says he REALLY understands ATMOSPHERIC PHYSICS and that for Co2 to be able to change anything, both the 1st & 2nd LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS have to be ignored. Concerning what Mr Moore said about human capacities to change or control the weather, Zbigniew Brzezinski stated in the 1970's that the United States already possessed this capacity. No doubt a few other developed nations too. In the 1980's in Moscow an INTERNATIONAL TREATY was signed to prevent governments from using WEATHER WARFARE. In 1997, the US defense secretary, William S. Cohen, also stated that the possession of weather-altering capabilities was indeed real.

[@Canadian_Skeptical]

This is great stuff! When I tried to bring these arguments to the Australian FB Skeptics group, they kicked me out!! Can anyone tell me where I can find the counterarguments to what he is saying? I am not saying they are right but I just want to see what they are.

[@mrunning10]

Counter arguments? Sure, it's called SCIENCE and PHYSICS and MATH and MEASUREMENT and DATA. And it's easy to tell the difference between Dr. Patrick Paid-for Horseshitter Moore, PhD and the TRUTH. Was there ANY mention of the 2,400 GIGATONS of co2 HUMANS have released into the atmosphere? No? Then you're hearing a conspiracy denialist. See? Even a 5th Grader can know.

[@jameshennighan8193]

UNITED NATIONS OR KZbin FIDDLING ? The text at the head of this page, under the sub-heading of United Nations seems to have been altered somewhere along the way. This heading, as shown on various and numerous pages of KZbin, has for a long time now comprised a total of 22 words, in two sentences with roughly 11 words in each sentence.. This has included counting the hyphenated 'long-term' as one word. What has now happened is that the original first sentence (11 words) has remained the same.......BUT........the second sentence, has been expanded from 11 words to 23 words. This has clearly been done to give the impression of more certainty to the reasons for climate change, and is much at variance with the 11 words contained in the original second sentence. Who is responsible for making this change....? Has this been done by KZbin of its own volition...? Or has it been done under UN influence...? James Hennighan Yorkshire, England

[@glengravel]

One more video. Because the south pole is solid land while the north pole is water. The ice build up on Greenland is off center from the ice build up on Antarctica. When the ice builds up enough about every 110,000 yerars or so. The earth reacts the way off balance things in space react. Without even considering any effect from other planets like Jupiter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6mYhpyteqqpprM

[@libertywolf8767]

I love sharing educated truth !

[@FrankenSensei2]

This lady will not let the man finish a sentence! Let the man finish his point! You continue to interrupt him under the contention that - because you don’t understand, you assume we all don’t understand.

[@mrunning10]

Interrupt horseshit? How is that possible?

[@FrankenSensei2]

@@mrunning10 How is that possible you ask? Dr Moore disproves the horseshit that you apparently believe in, without interrupting people. He knows more in his little finger then what you’ve amassed your entire lifetime. And besides, she only interrupts him out of nervous compulsion, but she agrees with him. So go on believing your mentor in chief Greta Thunberg.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Beware of Moore's cherry-picked data, fake climate graphs, verbal sleight of hand and little lies of omission, all of which he employs in his presentations. Moore is the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. He has also been a fellow at the Heartland Institute, also funded by the fossil fuel industry. Moore is not a climate scientist. Although his degree is in forest ecology, he's not a forest ecologist. He's a a long-time spokesman for the energy industry.

[@iancormie9916]

Beware of people who do not believe in the Bronze Age warm period, the Roman warm period or the Little Ice Age. - all of which are denied by the Hockey Stick Crowd.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@iancormie9916 Nobody in climate science denies the Roman or Medieval Warm Periods. They've been much discussed in the scientific literature. But neither of these were global or globally synchronous in extent. They were largely confined to the North Atlantic and Europe. See NO EVIDENCE FOR GLOBALLY COHERENT WARM AND COLD PERIODS OVER THE PREINDUSTRUAL COMMON ERA, Neukom et al, Nature, July 24, 2019. The study found that the warmest period over the last 2000 years ocurred during the 20th century for 98% of the globe. The hockey stick, by the way, is confirmed by over 30 studies and is affirmed by the National Academy of Sciences.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@iancormie9916 Moore is famous for his assertion that "over the Earth's history there's no consistent correlation between CO2 and temperature." He then shows a graph which looks pretty damned convincing. The crime here is that no lay person questions his graph's validity and provenance. Or anything else he presents as Gospel. They should. Coal mining engineer and climate denier Monte Heib took historical CO2 data and historical temperature data and slapped them together in a hand-drawn graph and assumed this was an accurate depiction of earth's climate history. It wasn’t. But deniers and skeptics have posted and re-posted his famous graph thousands of times across the internet. It has ZERO scientific validity, as you would expect from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing. The data he used was in time steps of ten million years, too long to determine correlations between CO2 and temps. (Climate scientists today use time steps of 500,000 years.) He also neglected to add the effects of a sun that increases its output as it evolves over hundreds of millions of years. Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;) Unfortunately, Moore uses a similar lie of omission with his wildfire graph, which appears to show far more wildfires in the 1920s and 30s than today. What he fails to share with viewers is that his graph includes millions of acres of INTENTIONAL BURNS. Today's wildfire graphs do not include intentional burns. Morever, according to fire data historians, burn acreage in the early 20th century was counted by multiple government agencies and sometimes counted TWICE. Moore also neglects to add critical context: Many fires in the early 20th cenury were simply left to burn out on their own because there were no access roads to reach them. Does he mention the speed traveled by horse-drawn fire carts vs. today's diesel fire trucks? The efficiency of today's powered hoses over hand-pumped hoses? The lack of early detection vs. today's super fast spotting by satellites? Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good? See more of his fact-checks here: thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/06/04/Fact-Checking-Patrick-Moore-Climate-Skeptic/ See also RESPONSE TO PATRICK MOORE'S 'WHAT THEY HAVEN'T TOLD YOU ABOUT CLIMAE CHANGE"

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You're not "cancelled" Patrick, Mr. Paid by Fossil Fuels Canadian Pipeline Moore. You're just simply wrong. (And a LIAR because you're smart and you KNOW you're bullshitting the public and that MAKES you a LIAR)