PSF 8: Teaching the Art of the Oset Electric Trials Bikes

Oset electric trials bikes are fun! But not just for trials, I had a blast cruising around town with Clay finding rocks, logs, and trails. He has never ridden trials or an electric bike so I tried to help him out a bit and show him how fun they can be. He rode the 20.0R and I rode the 24.0R. For more info check out www.osetbikes.com and buy them through www.rypusa.com
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[@coulterbill]

Finally a video that shows me what the Oset can do, in the hands of a pro. I got my Oset 24 about 5 months ago, in British Columbia Canada. I love it, and allready knew it was capable of more than my 50 year old body could do, lol. Best weapon ever on mountain bike trails, and I rode mountain bikes on the Vancouver North Shore for 2 decades.

[@PatSmage]

coulterbill glad I could show you a bit of what it can do! More coming soon! I have done much more to put it to the test since and it has been a lot of fun. Enjoy it!👍

[@coulterbill]

There really isn't much owner feedback on these bikes anywhere, and think this video is the best on KZbin so far. There is nothing else out there like the Oset24. I love mine, it's everything I have wanted in a bike for many years, but didn't exist until this year First of all, it's silent, so you can ride it almost anywhere. It only goes about 20 miles an hour, but can do that up hill. It only weighs about 100 pounds, and will fit in the back of my Honda Element lol, I live close to the Canadian Pacific Trials club riding area, and have played around on the exposed rock and stuff with the moto trials guys, they think it's cool but think it needs a clutch lol. I like not needing a clutch, and having both brakes on the bars. I can't wait to see more from Americas best trials rider thrashing on the bike, and seeing how it holds up for you

[@SensiVybz]

Are you running lithium batteries? Can you chuck the bike on its side wihtout any issues? Just bought a 16R and 24R for my son and I but will be throwing them in the back of my daily for getting to places? Thanks,

[@MUDHD]

Very nice

[@OSETBikesGlobal]

Awesome stuff Pat! We are looking at doing some more vid's this year if you are interested?

[@PatSmage]

Yep, I am always interested!

[@gamerpro7412]

Very good videos

[@derrickanderson2783]

@1:59 Here we observe how a billy goat would naturally walk along this fallen tree--wait...he's riding a child's bike across it..doing a wheelie!?!?!? hahaha

[@PatSmage]

Haha I will happily be compared to a goat, they are awesome and I'm pretty sure one of the first trials riders ever!

[@sonanaka2296]

good driver

[@markJones-yz6ke]

Wow!gotta git me one!😀😥

[@PatSmage]

Agreed. 👍

[@xXAcrobatixX]

Damn I really want the 24.0R That Bike is amazing.

[@PatSmage]

Simple Skyline it's a lot of fun!

[@coulterbill]

I like mine alot. Pretty good value when you compare it to other electric bike options, and so far nothing else like it

[@maddoxomeara]

Simple Skyline I have the 20.0r it’s a lot of fun

[@boynextdoor240]

Pat Smage is there a night and day difference between the 20 and the 24?

[@Jimmy-qu2en]

Jose Ramirez The battery last a whole lot longer and the top speed is a bit faster. Other than that the suspension and size is the main difference

[@markmtbrider]

I always wonderd if one of theese could handle an adult rider. Great test!

[@PatSmage]

markmtbrider thanks! They are just as much fun for adults as they are for kids! 👍

[@coulterbill]

It hauls my 185 pounds up west coast mountains no problem, way faster than a mountain bike anyway

[@MichaelAbramo]

How is the suspension on the Oset 24R compared to a traditional trials bike? I'm looking to get into trials and am coming from enduro / harescramble. Additionally, how do you find the lack of clutch? For hopping up sheer wall faces you would typically rev up and launch yourself up the wall. On an electric bike, is the technique the same due to the instant power delivery?

[@PatSmage]

They really don’t compare. A traditional bike has basically no limits, it can do more than pretty much anyone can handle. The Oset is a super fun bike, but consider it more of a play bike for trials. It is MTB suspension and brakes, and hybrid frame/wheels. Sure it can be ridden at lower level club events, but it not a competitor to a gas bike with the same skilled rider. But you can ride it more places and might be more fun! The lack of maintenance is nice too. No clutch is strange for sure. It is more of a bicycle technique, roll into obstacles and use your body a lot since you can’t build any inertia. Different but fun!

[@Enduro_Urbano]

Do you still learn as much with this bike since there is no clutch or gears?

[@PatSmage]

Not as much, but balance and certain techniques are close enough.

[@yrurags]

Hey Pat, as usual, awesome trails & riding. Is the 24 all you hoped it would be. Still looks pretty small.

[@PatSmage]

yrurags thanks! It is close to what I expected. It is not a competitor to a full size gas bike. More of a fun play bike that can be used for training or just to have a good time.

[@md6397]

4:11 PBR

[@davidige276]

Pat, do you use the brakes as sort of a clutch? Drag the brakes with a little throttle, then release and throttle it more? Like a zap but using the brakes instead of a clutch.

[@markmccall6273]

I suspect that would burn out the electric motor in time??? The only way you're going to get the trials launch that we're all hoping for, you need to spin up a flywheel and then have a clutch. Some newer E trials bikes have introduced flywheel and clutch so that they perform more like gas bikes. So, waaaay better for competing and sudden bolts of power, but burn the battery out waaay quicker also. V interested to see how Pat answers your question though.

[@PatSmage]

I have tried that, but don't find it very effective. I think you can get just as much power by being quick with your wrist on the throttle. Like Mark said, without a flywheel you aren't building any power, just feels like you are working the motor harder.

[@youtubemusiconly5249]

@@PatSmage Thanks for the tip. I've been conditioned to not have a quick throttle wrist on my gas bikes to prevent bogging. On my Oset 24 when approaching an obstacle at low speed and using my usual not so quick throttle, there would be a delay getting the front end up, throwing off my timing. I tried using a quick wrist and now I can get the front wheel up exactly when I want. No bog with electric!

[@Danieltrials125-]

@@PatSmage hi

[@PhilEvans]

Hey Pat, I'm an adult 5'7" 170 lbs. I'm ready to get an Oset but I can't decide between the 20 and 24. I'm thinking my kids will be able to ride the 20 sooner (in like 3 years), and the 20 lithium is still cheaper than the 24. If I am just in my backyard practicing my balance, wheelies, and basic trials, can I get away with buying the 20, or will I wish I had I gone with the 24?

[@marco20838]

finnaly a cool trial bike movie to watch, not that usual climbing 5cm rocks and descending 20cm, how the transition of a trial eletric bike to a dirt bike feels,, since you do not have clutch?

[@PatSmage]

Having no clutch is very strange. The techniques are closer to bicycles in how you can hit things. It’s tough to get used to but lots of fun!

[@marco20838]

i am seriously thinking on buying a trials bike, want to get that technique to enduro! but would u recoomend eletric or gas trial bike, gas bikes are expensivier, but in portugal there's almost no 2nd hand eletric bike for sale, and gas trial bikes are around 1k but years 1998-2002, which are kinda old, are they worth it?

[@maro255i]

hi guys what shoes do you recommend for shoes ride like this?

[@PatSmage]

A stiff sole MTB shoe works good. Ride Concepts has some good options. Gearne motorcycle trials boots are really good too but more expensive.

[@Berntzon93]

Hi there! Awesome video, btw: I just bought a 20.0 R, and was wondering what kind of speed/power/response setup you would recommend me to use, for mostly wheelies/playing around practice. Been using all on full but it doesnt really feel awesome, plus the battery empties quickly. Would really appreciate an answer! Thanks

[@PatSmage]

Oliver Berntzon thanks! I run mine all on full. But I have found it slightly easier for most people to have the response backed off a bit. I have been running lipo batteries in the 20 and see much longer run times and lighter weight. Have fun!

[@Berntzon93]

Alright, so just practice it is then! Thanks for the quick answer :-)

[@CJModiano]

@@PatSmage Are the Lipos aftermarket or something? Thinkin about maybe buying a 20 myself. Nice vid.

[@mikee8244]

You on different machines?? Or same on with different fork????

[@PatSmage]

Different, i am on the 24 while Clay is on the 20

[@dalekemp4319]

I have just ordered a 24 racing. How much time do you normally get out of a full charge on full power?

[@PatSmage]

Good question, I don't think I have run it until its completely dead. Most people say around 2 hours of normal riding but it is so dependent on riding style, weight, and terrain.

[@dalekemp4319]

@@PatSmage Thanks for the reply dude. Maybe I should be swapping the bacon sandwiches for porridge in the mornings then to prolong the battery life 😂

[@nixongrasskarting4898]

What oset is that

[@PatSmage]

20.0R and 24.0R

[@landonm815]

ride time? how does it compare to a traditional trials bike?

[@PatSmage]

Not sure on ride time, this video was filmed on one charge though. I would guess around 2 hours depending on your riding style. I did a local event of 8 sections and 4 loops on sandy hills and finished on one charge also. It is very different from a gas bike. It is a mix of a bicycle and motorcycle. More of a play bike than a competitor to a gas bike. Tons of fun and can help learn some technique and balance, although lots of things are different with a clutch and flywheel.

[@DrewBroadleyNZ]

Hey Pat, I have a 24.0R but the backing off of the motor is really aggressive when I come off the throttle. Are you finding that?

[@PatSmage]

Drew Broadley there is a bit of motor braking, I wouldn't say it is aggressive though. Hopefully they can take that down in the future. Would love to have it roll backwards freely.

[@DrewBroadleyNZ]

Pat Smage I encourage you to get the 17" rear wheel with bigger tire from the JunioR 24

[@PatSmage]

Drew Broadley I just might have to! A bit more traction would be nice.

[@87casual]

Hi there any problem with OSET 24 in a pass??

[@PatSmage]

What do you mean by a pass? I don’t think so but not sure what you mean.

[@RoboticusMusic]

How many watts is the motor?

[@PatSmage]

RoboticusMusic 1400w

[@maddoxomeara]

RoboticusMusic the one the other guy is riding is 1,200 and I am not sure what the 24.0R is

[@RoboticusMusic]

I didn't think it would be so low. Electric MX bikes are about 20kw.

[@maddoxomeara]

RoboticusMusic that’s not low at all

[@RoboticusMusic]

There are many ebikes that weigh the same as this trials bike, except they're 10-15kw.

[@jojja8690]

How many hour? Minute? Can you use this Etrial before u need charge it?

[@PatSmage]

It depends on how you ride it and how much you weigh. I have never ridden it completely out of battery. I would guess the average is about 2 hours for most people.

[@jojja8690]

@@PatSmage Ok. Thats good time for ride. Where did u buy it? Here in sweden they Coast about 3800 us dollar. Thx for replay

[@jessenurse9194]

Top speed on the 24 mate?

[@PatSmage]

I have no idea, sorry! Ill have to check next time I ride it.

[@tec3562]

Whats the top speed on the 24 m8?

[@PatSmage]

Around 20mph

[@tec3562]

Ol

[@tec3562]

Ok*

[@youareclapped8070]

How old was that kid? And what bike was it?

[@jakepaulersforlifedontbeam7514]

Joe Carter please subscribe to me and I'll subscribe to you

[@roberttannenbaum6779]

What do these go for price wise looks like A lot of fun

[@PatSmage]

20" around $3000 24" just over $4k

[@markmtbrider]

What kind of run time were you getting out of them?

[@PatSmage]

markmtbrider I actually don't know. I haven't ridden them long enough to drain the battery completely. I have been meaning to time a ride but it's hard to judge while riding trials. The 24 run time has been very impressive, I am guessing around 2 hours for me depending on the riding im doing. A light rider doing normal trials would probably be a good amount more.

[@markmtbrider]

Pat Smage i am 165 to 170. Of course it would be for the kids.....lol

[@coulterbill]

I get tired before the battery on mine runs out. My fat 50 year old body is about 185 pounds. I have ridden it up and down many west coast mountain trails since I got it, after about an hour and a half, the battery indicator shows 2 out of 3 lights.

[@markmtbrider]

coulterbill good info thanks.