The fact Zama, a defense based fighting type, didn't get Body Press in Gen 8 is the wildest thing imaginable. It was made for Body Press...
@DrGandW6 ай бұрын
I’m more shocked that it’s signature move didn’t have the same use defense feature to make it match Zacian
@kiwi402386 ай бұрын
It was probably to keep it in check. Gen 9 has been such a massive power creep that the devs realised giving Zama body press isn't gonna be the end of the world.
@Nitosa6 ай бұрын
@@kiwi40238"Zacian and Calyrex laughing in the background during gen 8" You can't in good conscience say that bodypress zama was so broken that it would break the camel's back, when both of those two criminals existed.
@KainaX1226 ай бұрын
THEY LITERALLY CAME OUT IN THE SAME GENERATION!
@rafy.h.31086 ай бұрын
Behemoth bash shoulda been based off defense
@coppercrystals6 ай бұрын
The best offence is a good defence ~ Zamazenta after learning body press
@Gwen10016 ай бұрын
finally, after nearly 5 years I can finally feel vindicated for buying Pokémon shield instead of sword
@DanielPereira-ey9nt6 ай бұрын
Let's be honest here, most people who picked Pokémon Shield did so for Ice mommy
@thatweirdodaniel6 ай бұрын
@@DanielPereira-ey9nti did it for allister lmao
@Gwen10015 ай бұрын
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt I actually did it because I just like the design more, plus I was really into rising of the shield hero at the time so that may have also played a factor
@mazharsiddiqi72886 ай бұрын
12:46 Chien Pao and Zamazenta, the new Sword and Shield Pokémon 🗡🛡
@DanielPereira-ey9nt6 ай бұрын
Big sis got ditched for a weird cat
@technician2526 ай бұрын
@@DanielPereira-ey9nt 💀real
@Moon-nk3co6 ай бұрын
It’s hilarious how Zamazenta got Body Press and instantly shot up the tiers despite getting nerfed. Imagine Zamazenta with pre-nerf body press in gen 8. Would’ve been a great deal
@TeeTop_6 ай бұрын
It's like they nerfed Zamazenta from the get-go and made it less offensively capable on purpose because they knew letting it have Body Press would make it lethal.
@dylanmorgan46816 ай бұрын
it would be on the same level as zacian, if not higher, which is insane
@Gspoink6 ай бұрын
It would not be the same tier as Zacian in gen 8 vgc, because that has Dynamax and standard zamazenta wouldn't be able to deal with it as well and it's still not as crazy as 170 +1 attack. But it will be good. For singles I still can't imagine how it will affect the bug 3 of ubers.
@dylanmorgan46816 ай бұрын
It's a good counter to zacian though, and run it with some sort of rage powder/ follow me mons, and you probably sweep
@Gspoink6 ай бұрын
@@dylanmorgan4681 It's less good on other things that's not Zacian too. Calyrex Shadow and pals still existed and you dont have Pao or Lu to be a backup for it. Maybe Caly-S Zama core would be good idk.
@YusufC516 ай бұрын
I know that 170 attack for Zacian sounds insane, but when you consider that Calyrex Ice has 165 attack and can hold clear amulet, I don't think it would have been that overpowered in this format especially with the Intrepid Sword nerf.
@azuresky22006 ай бұрын
I think the problem is they are all over powered lol, the power creep that has gone on in recent generations with the legendaries is kinda ridiculous
@groudonvert72866 ай бұрын
Hope some day Arceus will be allowed in VGC. No matter the power creep, this Pokémon is still the strongest Pokémon.
@zyella2776 ай бұрын
@@groudonvert7286 Arceus mythical so not likly to be a thing since only did it on,ce mythicals during gen 8 for vgc.
@TeeTop_6 ай бұрын
I favored Zamazenta's design from the beginning and was disappointed by how overshadowed it was by Zacian (especially in its usefulness) ever since. Body Press was so necessary for it.
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
Same. I got Shield because of course. Not just because Zamazenta itself, but shield is the superior weapon. Archers kill if no shield.
@mathieul43036 ай бұрын
Lol
@itztaytay26 ай бұрын
Pelipper is popular atm because it can replace the weather if their restricted is Groudon or Koraidon (or I guess snow but that's a lot rarer now). It also has Wide Guard which is super nice for the mentioned spam of spread moves from restricteds
@whitecheeze_rf6 ай бұрын
13:49 For Flying i think moves like Bleakwind Storm used a lot
@itztaytay26 ай бұрын
Yo Michael Kelsch won it?? Their Showdown Handle is MichaelderDeBeste2, famously the absolute king of randbats. He literally always has the #1 slot. Guy is insane, good to see him doing well in VGC too
@isaacmillen87896 ай бұрын
First regional win, which is surprising considering that he's a worlds runner up 😂
@lordsceptile61816 ай бұрын
Pelipper is literally budget Kyogre, who’s here mainly as a counter to Groudon/Koraidon. Sun is super good right now, not only does it help those two but the Scarlet paradox Pokemon like Flutter Mane can run items without losing their ability. It also helps Incineroar and other fire types as the attack boost is actually really good. But rain not only removes the sun, but specifically counters many things good in sun like fire types and the sun duo. Pelipper is simply the best rain option that doesn’t take your legend
@Galaxyboy6474_real6 ай бұрын
I always loved zamazenta more than zacian
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
Me too
@SweetBananaDigital6 ай бұрын
I can’t imagine why Zamazenta wouldn’t have gotten Body Press in Gen 8. I can only assume they thought it would be too broken, but they had no problem making Zacian, Urshifu, and the Calyrex riders in the same generation.
@Jia-dw3bp6 ай бұрын
Btw those usage stats are for day 2 of the tournament, meaning the top 32 players. When kyogre, groudon zacian have 3.1% usage rate it means that only 1 player was using them.
@jasonhuynh89226 ай бұрын
Pls react to boy meets girl. Their nuzlockes are genuinely entertaining. It also shows the perspective of a person who didn’t play pokemon when she was a kid so she’s new to pokemon and her nuzlockes are completely blind. Their content is something I believe you will enjoy a lot.
@diegoace22746 ай бұрын
I second this goated recommendation
@arktikalik6 ай бұрын
Here here
@Ford-Anglia6 ай бұрын
seeing my second fav legend be good is a dream come true
@loozariyuslayker16486 ай бұрын
Really appreciate those type of videos. Great job.
@TheRedStinger826 ай бұрын
Justice for Zamazenta
@thethunderousstar-knight80106 ай бұрын
Exactly! That’s my dog! Literally and figuratively!
@TheRedStinger826 ай бұрын
@@thethunderousstar-knight8010zamazenta is the top dog
@roaringthunder1156 ай бұрын
As someone who was always a Zamazenta fan, I’m happy.
@UCDitto6 ай бұрын
Shiny Zac and Zam was a Limited Time GameStop Distribution Event
@FerretTwister4 ай бұрын
Zamazenta is my favorite legendary since it came out. The added body press is an amazing plus.
@connorb17756 ай бұрын
Zamazenta was my fav of the two and it makes me happy that the protec doggo is getting the love he deserves
@sammyhorace75236 ай бұрын
It's because of body press that saved this Pokemon.
@KAILASCHANDRANM.S6 ай бұрын
hey pat i love your content but i was hoping we could get twitch chat in these reaction videos, their reactions always compliment yours so nicely and is generally so entertaining
@NovelVanguard6 ай бұрын
Yes my favorite legend from gen 8 getting the respect he deserves
@OneSmolMistyBoi6 ай бұрын
Genius move would have been cutting the fight at the end middway because I was really invested and would have looked it up myself to continue the cycle
@souodeca51876 ай бұрын
We all know Patterrz is learning about VGC so he can use meta strategies on “them we fight” videos when they decide to do doubles format
@rufavulpes6 ай бұрын
Yooo I was waiting for this vid to happen :D
@webblorin96146 ай бұрын
Behemoth Bash (Zamazenta’s signature move) is a base 100 physical steel type move with no drawbacks.
@king_alloy6 ай бұрын
The drawback is that it is also affected by intimidate. Things that heavy slam is expected to hit are hit by it at its strongest.
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
That move should work like body press, Zamazenta uses the shield 🛡️ for that move anyway.
@Animated_Frank76 ай бұрын
Zamazenta and his redemption arc.
@p-EAT-emon6 ай бұрын
From the beginning, I always loved zamazenta more then zacien
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
Yeah, me too.
@EricBurns16 ай бұрын
I run shadow ball on my Calyrex-Shadow to get around the wide guard users
@mukatte47556 ай бұрын
So you run both Shadow Ball and Astral Barrage?
@EricBurns16 ай бұрын
@@mukatte4755 yup
@EricBurns16 ай бұрын
@@mukatte4755 astral barage, shadow ball, expanding force, and protect. Tera ghost. Holding a focus sash. Works well with Indeedee since it can use helping hand or follow me
@mukatte47556 ай бұрын
@@EricBurns1 Doesn't let you many rooms for coverage
@haydeniskander53065 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Zamazenta-Crowned is so heavy that its Heavy Slam even hits CHIEN-PAO for 120 BP. And Chien-Pao is by no means a lightweight. By comparison, Metagross only hits Chien-Pao for 80 BP.
@earlgraham47206 ай бұрын
"Zamazenta hods the fort"... No Zamazenta is the fort.
@700jmann6 ай бұрын
I appreciate you going and finding the match at the end of the video. It woulda bothered me too, but I don't have the patience to look it up.
@Wesker19842 ай бұрын
You forgot that Incineroar also has Knock Off lol.
@The_One_In_Black6 ай бұрын
6:11 Ludicrous, but not Plaid
@beanslinger26 ай бұрын
funny how Volcarona could dominate the Zama-Cheinpao-Rillaboom combo. I wonder if someone has gotten success with it?
@jephteesesa61806 ай бұрын
THIS IS ZAMAZENTA SUPREMACY 🎉🎉🎉
@rustyanubis16506 ай бұрын
I always liked zamazenta’s design way more. I was sad it wasn’t as good
@gabeskai6 ай бұрын
My shield doggo got finally got body press???😍 oh hell yeah!
@pketr56 ай бұрын
Doesn't chien-pao lower defence? Does it lower the damage of body press?
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
What?
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
I guess yes.
@mukatte47556 ай бұрын
I calced Body Press woth Sword of Ruin, it does more damage than w/o Sword of Ruin
@zxori95176 ай бұрын
Zacian is really Zamazenta's heavenly restriction
@urkerab6 ай бұрын
Regenerator Leftovers? So that's why I've been struggling in competitive Pokémon!
@eduardogiraldez54716 ай бұрын
One move really made the difference.
@whitecheeze_rf6 ай бұрын
Let me guess, because of Tera and updated movepools
@JAYLID-z8k6 ай бұрын
Could zamazenta theoretically work in natdex ubers as a yviltal/zacian counter?
@Zamazenta486 ай бұрын
Looks like The Tables Are Fliped Zacian
@nimatz37886 ай бұрын
I've said before, and I'll say it again. It was a crime not to give zamazenta body press in gen 8.
@HewieSux6 ай бұрын
the Rise of the Shield-dogo 🤔? ...hmm. yes yes indeed
@steeljace6 ай бұрын
I read that as shildigo, like as in gholdigo or however you spell it
@HewieSux6 ай бұрын
@@steeljace oh no - sorry for the confusion . . it was ment as a homage how Naofumi, the MC from the Anime " Rise of the Shield hero " , was also seen as trash because he got the defence and not a weapon . Shield-hero...shield-dogo..sorry again :D
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
@@HewieSuxWell, shield kind of is a weapon. One does use it actively. And can attack with it. Also it saves from archers. Was that a good show / film?
@HewieSux6 ай бұрын
@@turkoositerapsidi Dorkly-bits made a skit about Link passing the sword from the old man in the cave and using his shield as a smashing-board :D . about the show itself ( trying to keep it very vague to not spoil to much ) . for me it was very enjoyable , up to the episode 21 wich ruined the MC for me for being so spineless; forgive the bad people everything yada yada . with that really stupid ending, second and 3rd season I did not watch, just red the summary on MyAnimeList - they failed hard it seems .
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
@@HewieSux Heh. And thanks. It's a shame if the show had not so good ending but I may still look at it if it was good before that. Thanks.
@mimaneneko83865 ай бұрын
Being team zenta from day 1 finally paid off
@yuilei88776 ай бұрын
I was there in Stockholm and it was great
@luckyday57216 ай бұрын
Zama is one of my favorite legends
@spidercat13676 ай бұрын
React to the Rick and Morty timeline
@sammyboy4476 ай бұрын
You should react to "the tale of three encounters" by pchal
@Sam246006 ай бұрын
Zacian is still good in singles, and probably broken with tera
@JAYLID-z8k6 ай бұрын
It is
@evanmorrison32326 ай бұрын
0:30 gen 3 represent! Get good other gens. Power creep needes 15 years to catch up. Get good.
@VictorbrineSC6 ай бұрын
"Nah, I'd Body Press"
@B-Ran_the_Man6 ай бұрын
18:25 Disagree 100%. Zacian cannot be considered "weak" with 150 attack, +1 stage of attack upon entry, and 148 speed! That is mathematically incorrect. Zacian will always be super powerful. He is just not positioned well in this format. Don't disrespect my dog like that 😁
@king_alloy6 ай бұрын
Gets intimidated
@Mayleef6 ай бұрын
As someone who bought Shield, I couldn’t be more proud of Zamazenta 🥹
@Mayleef6 ай бұрын
@rando7963 Deserved! 💯
@kirbyfreakyt46956 ай бұрын
5:36 "It just killed it in one hit, that's ludicrous" 95 hp, 90 Defense?? And THAT'S ludicrous on a super effective hit...? The build tends to be HP EVs, not Defense EVs. 10:33 If Night Shade was a spread move it'd pair AMAZINGLY with Taunt to shut down Zamazenta If anything's going to be a 4 hit KO, it might as well be doing 100 damage
@GravityIsFalling5 ай бұрын
I mean incin can live a mienshao CC
@silentAli6686 ай бұрын
Big dog you say but more like the red Husky for me.
@NotAlphaCentauri6 ай бұрын
JusticeForZacian
@sikimonibaruah51696 ай бұрын
Please can you react to legends neo ghetsis by lockstin
@glenknight41516 ай бұрын
Zamazenta should be in pokemon Unite
@SwagMikeOut6 ай бұрын
Where he get a legal shiny zamazenta??
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
Was an event but I didn't know how I even got that in my land, so I do not have it.
@JAYLID-z8k6 ай бұрын
You can still buy codes online for three bucks
@peasantb100d6 ай бұрын
ZACIAN! YOUR BROTHER HAS RETURNED! I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF THE UBERS OF OLYMPUS!
@Gearzero006 ай бұрын
React to Pokemon Legends Neo Ghetsis. Lockstin's take on teen edge Pokemon.
@sikimonibaruah51696 ай бұрын
I second this
@carbuuss6 ай бұрын
day 1 Zamazenta ❤️
@petrie9115 ай бұрын
Now imagine if Behemoth Bash worked like Body Press.
@janetquiambao52526 ай бұрын
can you watch emesis Blue please pat
@striker44066 ай бұрын
Hot take behemoth bash should have been based on defense
@turkoositerapsidi6 ай бұрын
That is only logical. Not controversial.
@ShinyHydrapplTheSyrpent6 ай бұрын
If zamazenta swapped it's physical attack with special attack, it would be so much more broken, as then it would have a very powerful moonblast.
@Umbra1736 ай бұрын
I loved Zamazenta before it was good. I just love the design because a shield as a mane is much less clumsy than a sword in its mouth. Did you ever try to fight with a sword in your mouth? Doesn't matter how strong your jaw is, you won't be able to fight someone.
@KeanuVGC6 ай бұрын
Zama on top
@krislee31556 ай бұрын
Not sad, Zacian fell hard.
@austinbusumbru1236 ай бұрын
Can you watch more gumbino Pokémon videos please
@justdominik98125 ай бұрын
Groudon and Kyogre aren't exactly equal, Kyogre is a lot better
@gameboy3d9436 ай бұрын
(Incineroar’s Intimidate activates) Zamazenta: “Oh no! Anyways…” (uses Body Press)
@daniellejackson65436 ай бұрын
It is complicated because while it has gotten better in vgc and even in smogon doubles ubers(tier 2 alongside Zacian), in singles it has fallen to the unofficial tier ubers uu due to a lack of viability. Also, another important thing mythicals can't be used in doubles is that arceus is tier 1 in doubles alongside calyrex shadow rider, miraidon, and koraidon whixh is kinda just neat to me. The difference between smogon doubles ubers and vgc is that 1 there are whole teams, and 2 there are no limits to restricted mons besides certain strategies so Zamazenta is just GOOD in doubles enough to be 2nd to the gen 9 box arts, calyrex shadow rider, and arceus.
@cheircool17215 ай бұрын
Patterz please react to Mr1upz
@belodie6 ай бұрын
Zamazenta-Incineroar-Calyrex Shadow is the new Rock-Paper-Scissors.
@The1andonlySorom6 ай бұрын
Wow I’m early
@AvgNoLifer696 ай бұрын
3 minute gang \/
@BlazinBobs16 ай бұрын
Another way to properly balance Zamazenta and Zacian. Zacian's ability should increase the atk and sp atk by one stage instead of just atk, and Zamazenta's ability increase the def and sp def by one stage. Obviously Zamazenta gets much more bang for the buck and the sp atk for Zacian doesn't really do anything for it.
@GravityIsFalling6 ай бұрын
So you want to buff the best restricted? You stupid?
@phorchybug32865 ай бұрын
Finally, they nerfed the broken boring crappy sword jerk.
@graysenVGC6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the original creator says Chien-Pao’s sword of ruin helps Zamazenta damage but it does not increase body press damage because it cuts both Zamazenta defense stat by 25% as well as the opponents
@GravityIsFalling6 ай бұрын
Prove this to be true with a damage calc
@graysenVGC6 ай бұрын
@@GravityIsFalling well it’s simple, sword of ruin cuts all Pokémon’s defense stats by 25% so it cuts Zamazentas defense stat and the opponents. Body press uses the defense stat. So if both stats are being multiplied by 0.75 then the result is the same
@GravityIsFalling6 ай бұрын
@@graysenVGC Show me a damage calc, one where zama uses body press with SOA, and one without SOA, if your correct they should be the same damage
@praggodey6 ай бұрын
due to how defense is calced zam gets a 1.2 times boost with body press
@TwilightAndCherry6 ай бұрын
Day 2 asking pat play genshin impact or wunthering waves
@DoctrSaimin5 ай бұрын
I didn't lose hope for zamazenta even the over hyped of zacian
@Thegoat-dk7qj6 ай бұрын
Oh damn I’m early
@anzl_j6 ай бұрын
1st
@Joss_star.6 ай бұрын
Body press and Zacian being less good, that's pretty much it
@eusoumaniaco6 ай бұрын
Damn im early
@HanakkoLove6 ай бұрын
Stop doing low effort reaction content
@dashoman5006 ай бұрын
Please react to Reverend's video about counter in gen 1. I think you'll really like it!
@Glacial_floofs6 ай бұрын
YES!!! ZAMAZENTA FINALLY GETS THE LOVE IT DESERVES