Distance running is dangerous

Paul explains why he is not a fan of distance running. He talks about the possible side effects of long-term distance running, and how to know if you are overtrained. He also touches on his opinion on hormetic stressors, and the dangers of too much hormetic stress for hormone health.

[@victorhardin2186]

I would love for you to have David goggins on to hear this 😆 😂

[@austinlapointe6464]

David goggins doesn’t care about health, he care about mental toughness. His heart once gave out so he asked it if it’s being a bitch today, then asked who’s gonna carry the boats? It got back up real quick

[@martinpospisil3747]

Didn't he had knee surgeries? I wouldn't take that guy seriously.

[@alicantuncer4800]

For anyone wondering, running 5-10k 3-4 times a week is NOT long distance running.

[@nunyafawkingbiz]

It actually is

[@TheCoachTex]

@@nunyafawkingbizit isnt. Its low mileage. If you are struggling with taht you havent properly stryctured your workouts/ arent running the apropriate pace.

[@GungFu-tt1ef]

Running makes u weak. Sprinting is truth.

[@thelastninja4825]

@@GungFu-tt1ef I agree, sprinting is more natural for the human being.

[@briandeal8927]

@@thelastninja4825Not really. Humans are designed to run long distances, not sprinting. We are one of the slowest mammals alive. The tactic was to keep the animals that do depend on sprinting to continue running over longer distances until they exhaust, pass out, and are able to be overpowered.

[@kailashyogi4314]

Love distance running, I also understand the potential downsides. Appreciate the work you do and know that diet is a huge lever for longevity, especially as a runner. 🔥🙏🏽🔥

[@dawson0610]

There is no point to long distance running.

[@freegracerevival]

@@dawson0610mind your own business

[@superuner73]

Life is dangerous. Don't be a p@$$y. Do what you love. If you love running, do it. If you don't sit on a couch and stay safe. Seriously too much of anything can be bad. Moderation, proper rest and refueling, and fueling for running help a lot. Just because this guy had a bad experience with running doesn't mean everyone will. Know your body, and don't be afraid to live a happy, healthy life because some guy or girl with a podcast is looking for clicks and likes. Anything can be dangerous in this life, but what's most dangerous is fear and people who spread it.

[@Magneticlaw]

Moderation in all things.....including moderation.....

[@pinksupremacy6076]

I love running and it feels great afterwards. My nervous system gets much calmer and my gut functions better. Also clarity of thought.

[@austinlapointe6464]

I think like how the carnivore diet has shown, we really don’t know as much about the human body as we thought. David Goggins is a prime example

[@GungFu-tt1ef]

Opposite to me.. Turns me into a bitch.. Sprinting turns me into a man

[@DerrickLytlephoto]

You should interview Jeff Browning about this. 50 years old, crushing ultra events, and his diet is very much inline with you.

[@theperson3693]

What’s interesting is to me it seems to be the same argument that others have with carnivore, running a lot often and eating all meat, make you feel great and you thrive, but might not be the most optimal longevity decisions. I don’t know but at least that came to my mind.

[@medes7894]

Great video doc. This shit once confused me about my physique goals, thank you for the information!

[@TheMorbidgoat]

LONG distance running literally means quite extreme distances Running, say, 5km once a week in addition to weightlifting is probably only good for you

[@Jachasik]

Both are stress for your body. Stress = unhealthy

[@AustenSummers]

@@Jachasik Eu-stress

[@tommyjones1357]

I like the idea of being healthy enough to run short distances. I did my first 5K a few weeks back. 3 miles is a bit much but I enjoyed running/sprinting followed by walking. I feel like that is most akin to hunting as cavemen. Plus, it’ll be nice to be capable of running in case of a disaster scenario. Ya know: skyscrapper coming down at free fall unleashing asbestos, baby mama need child support, or maybe an elephant escapes the zoo.

[@Magnulus76]

@@Jachasik Stress can be healthy if it leads to favorable adaptations in the body. Not all stressors are bad, it's really a question of context. For instance, all stressors need some amount of recovery for the body to adapt. The stressor itself isn't the adaptation, it's what happens in response that leads to adaptation.

[@Jachasik]

@@Magnulus76 I don't think that you can call stress "healthy". No matter what kind of stress is always detrimental on your body and ages you. Even in so called body building it is more likely body destroying or stressing but yes you can build some muscles with it. In case of running I can see some many people outside running and I feel sometimes bad about them. Their body screaming to stop doing that. You can argue that stress is good body singal to stop doing what you do and change your life style or to for example adapt to some poison in environment no matter if it is snake or stress at work with toxic people and so on. I believed some day in hormesis and beneficial stress but currently I got more experience and in a time being I extinct from my life any stress and became overall happier a d healthier. Well just do what you want and resonates with you but never be 100% sure of everything and try to stay open minded.

[@joelmartinez2668]

I wish I could run like that but my knee and hip and foot are screwed now. I love walking now! Same mental results for me. Less prep and cool down required too.

[@edgar1edgar902]

I run like 5 miles everyday, I feel great, my depression goes away I feel more confident and self esteem.

[@DiogenesNephew]

It was actually noticeable right away that Paul was actually listening until she was done talking rather than interrupting. Great skill to have.

[@aamit6211]

Piers Morgan needs to take a class or two!

[@jpsailorallaboardmatey461]

Regular aerobic activity induces eccentric Left ventricular hypertrophy which is a beneficial adaptation. The heart does not work as hard at rest due to the chamber and muscle itself increasing in size and is able to pump blood throughout the body easier. It’s chronic long term stress and unchecked blood pressure that leads to health complications. Outside this overdoing it can be hard on joints and bones but in moderation is actually good for our bones.

[@thelastgreatdevolutionary1044]

Hey thanks for that information - I have left ventricular hypertrophy. My cardiologist never said. Got any ideas on how to bring presistent high blood pressure down? (Already on beta-blockers and calcium blockers)

[@sweatyatoms7719]

less salt if you havent tried already@@thelastgreatdevolutionary1044

[@thomasstjames4972]

I stumbled across one of your videos, and subscribed by the way. you were going through what you have for breakfast the meat fruit honey , and animal organs. What I’m trying to figure out is what is your daily intake lunch dinner. Weekly. If you have a video going over something more extensive can you direct me to it? Or create a video that explains daily or weekly diet? Thanks!

[@LizaLavolta]

Ran six miles today. It was the best part of my week. Time in the forest. A mental challenge. A good meal after. I enjoy a pretty consistent 13min mile pace. I only4- do distance once a week. I have gone up to 10m but I prefer 4-6.

[@bhok1971]

Try walking. Way better and more natural

[@hernancoronel]

Look up dr sean o’mara and his proposed sprinting for visceral fat loss. Interesting stuff…

[@snehalkrishnan618]

@@bhok1971does walking increase capillary density and improve VO2 max the same way running does?

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

​@@bhok1971Walk and sprint like an ancient hunter. Make it fun and explorative.

[@FordyRuns]

Interesting thoughts on this thanks a lot

[@vannawhitesbabbydaddy9390]

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[@ajparr5585]

How would you isolate the problem of running from all the other lifestyle variables such as diet ? I run 2x/wk around 5 k , trails and road , but also condition with other activities as well . Variety I suppose is good

[@ed5616]

What would be the limit, how much km represent distance running? For example if you run like 5km 3x a week is it still bad for your heart.

[@Fitnessbybryce]

I don’t think Dr Saladino is saying to not run ever. He’s just explaining the dangers of distance running based on his personal and professional experience. Everything can be dangerous for you. Educating yourself on the possible dangers will help you to avoid these dangers. Great video! - Bryce Merriman

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

The very fact that you need to adapt body to long runs through very long time or special means as you need to adapt muscles to grow bigger after reaching certain threshold shows it's unnatural. Or at least something creating a different balance in body so requires more research into what it does to body long term. I can bet women to better with long runs! And men with gaining extraordinary mass. There is this in-built specialisation of endurance and explosive high short term effort. Or just my strong intuition

[@Fitnessbybryce]

@@szymonbaranowski8184 that’s an interesting way to think of it. Very though provoking and I agree just like gaining large amounts of muscle, it is unnatural to run long distances. Our bodies weren’t built for that or we wouldn’t have to force adaptation

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

@@Fitnessbybryce I would disagree with this. We are clearly designed for distance running. We can dump heat quickly via lack of hair and the sweating mechanism. I think our hunter ancestors used their better endurance to stalk, harass and wear down large prey animals over time until they were weak enough to be susceptible to direct attack. As mentioned, clearly the human body does need to be conditioned to do this though, and the running probably shouldn't be done on hard surfaces.

[@Fitnessbybryce]

@@davepeterschmidt5818 I think we can agree to meet in the middle. You are right about saying our ancestors hunted and stalked the pray. But I don’t think that they were running marathons or training for it. Running isn’t bad for you, but distance running in this context can have negative effects. This is my opinion of course thank you for sharing your opinion with me!

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

@@Fitnessbybryce Of course they weren't running marathons. And they trained on the job, so to speak. The pursuit I believe they engaged in was done as a group, where some subset of the group would be harassing the prey at all times while others were getting a breather. Then they'd swap roles and continue. This would be an extremely effective technique against an animal they had been able to isolate from the herd, for example, even if that prey was faster than a human for short bursts.

[@stevelyons6739]

Great Info Dr!!

[@dagda16]

Some of this I disagree with but I appreciate the discussion around “moderation is key” and that stress, to a point, makes us stronger (especially at a cellular level)

[@KamuelaFranco]

What about heart rate variability compared to baseline as a measure of overtraining/recoveredness?

[@JK-vc7ie]

Every activity can be harmful if you take it too far. Running, lifting, anything...

[@MericaUnited]

I think you should go into more detail about the distance running harms. Because I think running is good for us. At which distances do you feel it’s too heavy? Or speeds? Per week?

[@trentonmaurer5262]

He mentions talking particularly people who are running miles upon miles 6-8minute miles. I’m guessing more than an hour at a time. You don’t want to have your body stressing for a large portion of the day. Also if you look at extreme distance runners they all look way aged because of their face skin getting bounced all day

[@user-kn9yy3ee2p]

​@@trentonmaurer5262 also they are under the sun a lot

[@tonystyles21]

I walk elevated steady pace now and it's working better than jogging long distance

[@justlaughatlife8461]

Same builds legs not breaks em 😜

[@tommyjones1357]

I work a desk job and don’t want to be a slob like all the other dudes in my company so thinking I’ll start run/walking. Run a short distance. Walk and catch my breath. Then run again. Short bursts. I like the idea of being able to cheez-it in the event of an emergency or maybe from my car to the store in the winter.

[@ritakent7844]

To change the subject, when I eat grass fed, grass finished beef, I get sick, the other day I got a lump in my stomach. Regular beef does not do that to me.

[@bradgantt1818]

The issue has less to do with the activity: distance running, cycling, etc. and more to do with the intensity of the effort over time. The vast majority of people go too hard, too often which is a black hole. You can absolutely enjoy these activities and be spectacularly healthy if you execute at low intensity as measured by HR, HRV, etc.

[@danielberg8437]

I'm doing 40 a week but mostly at low hr and don't feel fatigued and feel healthier than I've felt in years. I do think that doing more low hr is key if you love running to help over training...

[@Magnulus76]

That's where an app like Runalyze is useful. Keeping the Fitness to Fatigue ratio on the favorable side, for instance, is going to help keep people away from overtraining.

[@thezenhodler1620]

I love long distance running but for the last few years I have averaged only about 15-25 miles weekly. AND I have still been able to run a couple marathons. I weight train, walk/jogs every morning for 15 mins, standup desk, yoga, stretch, hiking. A well rounded active lifestyle is key.

[@67Stu]

Having had been in the health and fitness and nutrition industries for quite some time, many years ago, based on your comment, you are unequivocally overtraining.

[@SwagMaster_-xp4me]

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[@Magnulus76]

Cross-training is definitely healthier than pounding too much pavement.

[@thezenhodler1620]

@@Magnulus76 agreed. Not all my miles are pavement. Single track trails in the woods with dirt, rocks and roots. Far more dynamic use of muscles than typical running. I am constantly advising my friends who run with nagging injuries that they need to weight train and get into the woods for some of their running. And on paved stuff, ALWAYS opt for asphalt instead of concrete when available.

[@Magnulus76]

@@thezenhodler1620 Resistance training is important for runners, especially as they age. Heck, it's good for everybody as they age.

[@PitFitHuntFan]

Distance runners on a good nutrition, lifestyle, and exercise program should be healthy if they enjoy it and if they do it for fun. If you enter the competitive scene like all other sports where you have to push yourself to the limit and even beyond to excel... then whether it’s sprinting, long distance running or any other extreme physical sport then there are possible negative effects. Doing things in moderation is the best for the health but that often times would not mean you would place in those events.😁

[@DiggingNorway]

5K is a perfect distance, you can do that everyday in 30 minutes

[@shelbyd2717]

Could you talk about PCOS? I would like to hear your opinion on it. I'm taking Dim and sometimes inositol they say I have insulin resistant but your saying insulin is good

[@thetimeisnow1210]

Is cycling as bad for the heart ❤️ as long distance running? I ride 150/200 plus miles a week, most in moderate pace and some high intensity with little zone 1/2 work? Which I know I need to ride more in, I know it’s a lot less stress on my joints but I’m wondering about the heart, my dad says I’m going to get some type of cancer from releasing too many stress hormones…

[@kellylaux89]

So you were a vegan runner and had issues, no surprise there. However what about running when being animal based? I love running and living my best life right now. Started at 45 in severe metabolic distress and now living my best life animal based at 50!

[@jawnfps]

As long as you balance your exercise out it's probably fine. Keep doing what you love and keep in touch with your doctor.

[@GregariousAntithesis]

Consistent endurance exercise is not healthy when you consider it slows our resting metabolism, is hard on joints. You want to run do interval sprints on grass or dirt. Thats healthy running not steady state cardio.

[@garyfinch1840]

Yes, the main issues are the slowing metabolism due to the body attempting to more efficient with energy over time. And the repetitive physical impact on joints bones brain etc...

[@westcoastsingletrack7854]

@@GregariousAntithesis your metabolism slows down cause your losing weight when you gain weight it goes up it's not bad for your joints it strengthens joints

[@briandeal8927]

I’m a vegetarian distance runner and have no issues. I had more issues while I was eating animal meat. I don’t think a specific diet really matters as long as you’re nutrition is balanced, you’re getting enough essential nutrition, and not over training.

[@theoemanuelsson7465]

I love the car analogy for the body, eating junk is like putting shitty gas and running is like driving recklessly. How long do you think your car is going to last if you do both?

[@Barsimea]

Thank you! 🌞

[@JK-vc7ie]

My uneducated opinion on weekly mileage: I suspect weekly mileage up to 40 miles is good for you. After that it might be breaking you down. Extreme mileage like 100 miles per week will make you super fit for distance running, but it's probably not contributing to optimal health. Almost certainly a detriment.

[@Parkerjoe9tx]

40 per week?? I maybe do 6-12 a week lol

[@peterb31]

I think even 40 miles is too much - just look at David Goggins - both knees have no cartilage. Fractures all throughout his legs. This is what distance running leads to.

[@user-pn3im5sm7k]

I do like 12 running and another 12 of walking Usaf pilot

[@Catcrumbs]

@@peterb31 David Goggins knees were fucked up when he was in the military, years before he started long-distance running.

[@nickwilsonxc]

@@peterb31David puts in way more than 40 miles per week. When he made the SEALS commercial years back I believe he said 125-150 miles a week was his norm, and that was on top of biking to and from work, swimming, lifting, and oh being a Navy SEAL. He does not represent the average Joe at your local 5K runs.

[@carolinesmith9489]

Very good information. Makes so much sense. When I had chronic illness I got sick with flue like symptoms from working out. Same with being in the sun, or having a heated discussion. It is important to be in tune with what your body says. Not to push your limits too much. Being able to take a step back. That's my experience. And this goes for everyone, but we all have different limits of course. So a little workout can be too much for some and very hard workout ok for other. Imo, this limit can expand (or the bucket become bigger or whatever), but with small steps, and being careful not pushing yourself much.

[@goten3388]

My African ancestors used to run and outpace lions to eat it. I think I’m fine

[@lmc4964]

how does cycling compare? 4-8hr range?

[@virgil368]

What is your take on bicycling?

[@climate-civilizations]

I think Paul listens to Jay Feldman's podcast with Mike Fave. Highly recommended, btw.

[@richardmiddleton7770]

Surely, whatever the stress, the more you're exposed to it the more resilient the body becomes? If a couch potato got up and ran 5 miles it'd probably nearly kill them, for someone used to running marathons it would be a nice recovery run! Someone who's always eaten nuts is unlikely to have a nut allergy, bee keepers are unlikely to go into anaphylactic shock when stung by a bee etc. etc.

[@connorgray2896]

100 percent. Volume of running or training is all relative. If you look at what kilian jornet does per week- it would kill most men lol but he is perfectly healthy and injury free. You build up greater capacity as u continue to train, obviously there is a limit but honestly the limit is pretty high. also depends on ur other life style habits. just saying endurance running is bad is very silly. Doing too much is bad but doing an amount ur body can handle is great for the body.

[@katiemiaana]

My dad was an amazing runner and he has AFib and had a stroke while running. He now can’t run and is so depressed. I agree unfortunately it is an addiction.

[@CJL36]

I think the benefits of distance running far outweigh the risks. Same can be said with any exercise regimen.

[@DivineLogos]

So what distance is too much to do daily?

[@allanh46]

It's funny just watching him go on about technical stuff. I understand it yes, but it's quite fascinating cos he looks so fit and in good shape for his fortys and in general. Yes and cool to see a racing driver Danica chat with him too.

[@cmo5807]

If you think hes not on TRT then your lying to yourself lol. Sure he looks great he eats well and worksout.... and on top of that Id wager hes on TRT. Most people in his profession and look like he does at that age are on TRT. If hes not then hey more power to him.

[@dutcharnold9058]

I would rather die from ultra running than not run at all personally🤷🏼‍♀️i dont know what science is behind the idea that long distance running is bad but I feel better than ever while running high mileage.

[@blueeyeddevil1]

You reference two extreme options out of a billion in between the two. Also, alcoholics feel better when they have a drink; it's not a great metric for determining the healthiness of many things. Where is the evolutionary need or basis for ultra running? What purpose would it serve for an aboriginal being? Plenty of science to show the damage it does to the human body, long term and short.

[@dutcharnold9058]

I see your point it may not be the best thing for you physically but there are still a-lot of positive affects of it as well (unlike alcoholism) I think for me, the mental toughness and the endurance I gain from Ultra running out weigh the potential physical harms. Significant physical damage is not guaranteed either there of plenty of ultra runners who are in there 60s and crush it. You can’t go through life shying away from any chance of physical pain or harm, unless you want to end up weak. You can’t become stronger either mentally or physically while being comfortable.

[@blueeyeddevil1]

@@dutcharnold9058 Fair enough, but no one said anything about "being comfortable." You can put yourself in plenty of uncomfortable situations that carry varying degrees of risk and test mental and physical fortitude that don't carry such a high risk of permanent damage or death SIMPLY BY ENGAGING IN THEM. I like to be smart about the potential risks of the behaviors I choose to engage in. I had to laugh at the "significant physical damage is not guaranteed" statement. That's true for drunk driving, cigarette smoking, and even heroin use. I favor activities where significant physical damage is unlikely. I may not know a ton of people, but those I know who are or have been runners, long or comparatively shorter distance, have knee, ankle, heel, and/or lower back issues. Running (short distances) may have been a part of our evolutionary development but it was done ONLY when deemed necessary (e.g., to escape predators or to catch prey), never on hard pavement, and almost never for long distances/durations. Take a look at apex predators; they don't chase prey for miles. It's a sprint, and either they win or they lose. So, whether you're predator or prey, neither engage in long distance runs. And no aboriginal people existing today run long distances because it makes them feel better. But, obviously it's your choice, so have at it if that's what you enjoy and best of luck to you.

[@sudenmoose]

Paul Saladino I honestly respect your work and seeking the truth. you say a lot of hard truths that people find hard to swallow but good on you for speaking out about it. Your work will save many.

[@metalrunner4398]

He has a serious eating disorder and is changing his diet every few months. How can that be helpful to anyone?

[@davepeterschmidt5818]

@@metalrunner4398 He hasn't changed his diet in quite a long time now actually. I suspect you've been watching his past materials and came across his dietary changes in an accelerated manner so you THINK he changes his diet frequently. His process and approach is a good one (eat what is evolutionarily appropriate) and he is speaking truth. Call it an eating disorder if you like, but it's simply his way of eating. Everyone has one. His is optimized for his desired lifestyle. Personally I've taken the basics of my dietary approach from his and modified it to fit my own body and lifestyle. It's working extremely well for me.

[@sudenmoose]

@@metalrunner4398 wdym eating disorder ?

[@metalrunner4398]

@@sudenmoose obsession with micronutrient adverse effects that are not even proven in mechanistical studies in rodents, changing his diet every few months. First juice fast plant based person, full carnivore, rice cracker nut, rice is poison nut, carbs are evil, fruit is great, honey is amazing, histerical shirtless screaming in supermarket. All that within 3 years. It is a blatant eating disorder. He should be shown to kids in med school.

[@joerandom157]

@@sudenmoose it's funny how not eating shit foods gets called having an eating disorder. eating everything in "moderation" has worked out so well for humans thus far, right? i appreciate the story paul's followed to get to this point. one extreme to the other, and now has settled in on an omnivorous pattern that seems to have lots of benefits.

[@fowler269]

I can average a few miles a week if I’m lucky then go run a marathon. I wonder how bad or good that is for my body doc

[@chilambalam5425]

"Arrhythmogenic right ventricular dysplasia," Wow! I like how he said that so fast like it's regular English.

[@3ncore706]

This should be common sense to people. Torturing yourself for extended periods of time is bad for your health.

[@Jachasik]

Exacly. But most of the even keto/carni people are so brainwashed about the exercise. Not only endurance training, resistance training is stress for your body too. But after second one that stimulus will make your muscles bigger, stronger...

[@TerriblePerfection]

That made me laugh because I have always thought that runners look really grim when I pass them. I walk and bike because they make me smile.

[@3ncore706]

@@Jachasik Yeah a lot of keto people seem to think working out “hardcore” will be good for your health. In my opinion though just doing a few exercises once a week can build a good amount of muscle and give you all the health benefits. Pushing it too hard always results in injury

[@3ncore706]

@@TerriblePerfection Yeah i mean if youre enjoying it then thats no issue, i lift weights a few times a week and enjoy it Its the people who say things like: “i worked out so hard i through up! Hell yeah” that i really dont understand.

[@21stCenturyEconomy]

Is High intensity interval running ok?

[@AG-xi7mz]

What about cycling?

[@melissabeers35]

I would like to see you interview Sally Norton, if I may make a request;)

[@EYS_kane]

What’s your opinion about eating onions ?

[@chrisvarnadoe5526]

Come on dude! Peeing blood from an ultra?! Yes, it happens but for 99% of us that run ultras know how to run with a little bit of common sense. I love your message and follow most of your recommendations, but I can't take this one serious, if you mention peeing blood like it's just a common thing that comes with distance running. I still love your content, but you can't know everything about everything!

[@chefboyartee8521]

Did saying peeing blood was common he said that’s what he did. Almost all marathon runners I know are addicted to running

[@chrisvarnadoe5526]

But he definitely made it sound like it's a common thing with ultra marathons, which is not true. I don't know a whole lot about much but I know running. I have ran many races from 100-200+ miles. I have many friends who run ultra marathons, and do not pee blood. I love the docs message with most things, however I just don't agree with making it seem like it's terrible for you. Just my opinion!

[@chrisvarnadoe5526]

Plus, if he peed blood he did things terribly wrong. That's not an opinion but a fact.

[@kWb02]

You know that blood in pee isn’t always visible

[@Christianjfit24]

I’d like to mention, you don’t have to be 20-25lbs under in muscle mass to run distances. I’m a sub 3 marathoner at 205lbs around 10-12% bodyfat. He must not like to put in a lot of work 🤫 his other stuff is amazing and I love it! Love the carnivore diet! It’s taken my performance to a whole new level.

[@stevenaylor5163]

What about bodybuilding even w/o steroids? As pertains to heart wall thickening/ heart enlargement.

[@dianaverano7878]

I used to run. But now I do walking 3 hrs ( whatever pace I want) + 1 hr walking with stairs everyday I now enjoy these walks as my exercise. Walking is low impact and my ancestor (great grandfather) lived that long beyond 100 yrs old. But walked all the time, flat or elevated lands. Not running. My blood pressure is lower now after a month of my routine (100/70)

[@Hwd371]

What about the Rarámuri or Tarahumara?

[@lizethflores1988]

Is running 2 miles daily bad is that Long distance running?

[@arturo7129]

Yeah, running on concrete is bad for joints.

[@surfboarding5058]

I do like 15 second sprints haha

[@mrswolls]

is 2 miles slow jogging twice a week okay?

[@plantbasedethos5726]

Also it's very catabolic, if you want to be a good long distance runner you can say goodbye to your muscle mass. Running is ok and cardio is also important, but running for very long distances on a regular basis is not healthy at all

[@Magneticlaw]

The guy who ran from the battle of Marathon to Athens to give news of the Greek victory subsequently proceeded to drop dead of heart failure....

[@CoffeeTXqueen]

I recently stopped distance running. I realized there’s really no reason for me to run more than 4-5 miles, especially since I live in Texas and it’s hot as balls. I believe running is the reason I have a resting heart rate of 43. Sometimes it will even go as low as 37. I don’t believe that’s concerning at all. But just an observation. We do always hear stories about sudden cardiac death during races with distance runners though.

[@67Stu]

4-5 miles is still long distance running, and will still have damaging effects sooner or later.

[@CoffeeTXqueen]

@@67Stu I simply do it for fun once or twice a week, so I’m not real worried!

[@jpsailorallaboardmatey461]

As long as your not running 4-5 every day with no rest days it will not hurt you. It’s actually beneficial to our bones to have this form of impact. 3 days a week that distance is very beneficial.

[@estebanarayaguzman4012]

@@67Stu no. If you have the proper recovery, Sleep, nutrition.. And if you don't do it every day

[@Kwildcat13]

Yeah those aren’t healthy runners those are the runners that just took on running for the majority of cases of sudden cardiac death .. or they are elderly and have other issues .. I run 20 plus milers ( 60 miles ) weekly and my pulse is in the 40s .. I’ve been ultra running for 15 years and I think it’s all about how you recover and eat .. sure runners can die but you can be hit by a bus walking to your mailbox so I’m not giving up running .. it’s not drinking , smoking or drugs ..

[@Arki2019]

The some of these comments have increased my cortisol levels!

[@creamofthecrop5868]

Well paul theres are multiple centanaruiuans who are vegans who are long distance marathon runners

[@noname-bt9ky]

when I ran long distance I always had trouble sleeping

[@bravenewchannel4477]

All the lazy people in the comments are rejoicing saying "see, I told you so!" as they proceed to binge watch the 5th season of whatever show they like, lol.

[@cmo5807]

David Goggins, Cameron Haynes, and a long long list of super healthy people long distance run to the extreme! And they are just fine according to their doctors anyway....... Can you explain how they are in such amazing shape? And they are ripped up and muscular so Im confused.

[@zacw812]

Goggins is most definitely not in good shape on the inside...he doesn't recommend to people what he does. He's a beast still but yeah

[@ElizabethMillerTX]

I'm so happy that Danica has been red-pilled and has taken control of her health. That's so great. I'm so happy for her, especially, but also for the rest of us, because she'll make an amazing evangelist.

[@JK-vc7ie]

You don't know her. Worry about people in your own life.

[@thestuff4321]

@@JK-vc7ie You don't know her, worry about people in your own life

[@newsdropz5361]

@@thestuff4321 Gravity Denier... Like your name? FE? ;)

[@ElizabethMillerTX]

@@JK-vc7ie Project much? You're barking at strangers for their imagined problems. Bless your heart.

[@jumper4ever937]

@@ElizabethMillerTX Nonetheless, he/she is right.

[@joe1071]

I agree, it’s crazy where your brain is in most topics

[@MiroBG359]

just saw a comment on here by a woman whose physician husband is a distance runner and developed afib. He was told 1 in 4 distance runners develop afib, if they get it while running and it doesn't improve it becomes permanent!

[@edjohn4590]

I developed atrial fibrillation from running long distances as a young man…

[@theroaman8759]

I like to run a mile a day for cardio. Would that be considered "distance running"?

[@Locke19901]

Nope go for it.

[@NoFsGiven666]

I run per week around 90-100 miles. I'm 34. In shape. Happy. I weight train. I dont have bad knees or joints. Take my cod liver oil (daily for around 15 years, very dense shin bones never in pain) and very important stretch after long runs. I had bad knees back when I was in Army when I was 23 because I didnt understand how to train effectively and reduce injuries but older I get the smarter and the fitter I get. Worst thing thats happen to me is bursitis in my knees other than that....Nothing.

[@gon7155]

Check back in 2034

[@xgengx7530]

Dr.Saladino: Don't overrun David Goggins has entered the chat!

[@BigPoppa-Monk]

Ask dave about his knees in a few years..lol

[@ChristianHiroseRomeoGraham]

What about Zach Bitter? He's a world record-breaking ultramarathon runner, and he's a carnivore, and appears to be in great health.

[@twistedstrength.]

You can’t see his heart.

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

I think that if he is honest it isn't optimal for his health. He is willing to make the tradeoffs now since he can make a living off of it. He we certainly is sarcopenic, a strong breeze can knock him over. He also is not 100 % carnivore. I doubt he will be doing 100 milers in ten years.

[@timslee0618]

actually Zach Bitter does Carnivore on and off throughout the year.

[@Kwildcat13]

@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 I bet your wrong I have a ton of friends that have been doing 100 miles for years and years and are well into their 50/60/70s .. you cannot speak for every person

[@blueeyeddevil1]

Sample size of 1 is proof of nothing. And his story isn't over yet, is it?

[@novus-malnourish3193]

I am one of the many people who adore David Goggins. I've seen him run 300 miles plus in 3 days all at once, and I am curious about what you have to say.

[@Gtt985]

And he did that many times with a hole in heart ..its all mindset

[@novus-malnourish3193]

@@Gtt985 But, is it healthy? It is extremely impressive, but is it best for humanity?

[@BalvinderSingh-uh3my]

Seen a few videos by MDs how much running is bad for you say per week?

[@codyburt6536]

I ran 8 miles this morning and felt great!

[@dianavaldez3371]

If you’re running in athletic shoes and on concrete that is not natural.

[@Bweyg]

@@dianavaldez3371 Yeah you're probably right. But so is lifting, sprinting, jump roping and skipping.

[@russellgrimes3491]

People are getting too crazy on the internet. Nothing but a bunch of losers running their mouth about nonsense in an effort to make money. Losers. LOSERS. WTF does Saladino mean he was “under muscled”? Five percent body fat for men and a BMI of 19 is considered normal if people are healthy. He is a complete POS.

[@russellgrimes3491]

@@dianavaldez3371You know what else isn’t natural? Tampons, eyeshadow, mascara, lipstick, fake nails, fake lashes.

[@bravenewchannel4477]

@@russellgrimes3491 fax

[@biggatap]

I use to love distance running

[@batissta44]

long distance Walking and sprinting is better than Jogging and long distance running. sprinters always look healthier than marathon runners who tend to look weak.

[@edjohn4590]

2 runners died recently in the comrades marathon in South africa

[@1560727]

What minimum distance is considered as ‘distance running ‘? 13 miles? 26 miles?

[@Kwildcat13]

Depends on who you ask .. I would say 20 miles .. someone else would say 13

[@vince1229]

Many retired endurance athletes have Afib and pacemakers due to constantly thrashing their left ventricles...Peter Snell. And a non elite ironman's heart was not designed to be red lining for 17 hours.

[@endgamefond]

This is why i do low moderate exercise coz i knew my condition. But I want to improve my Vo2 max coz I knew since i was young i cant run even in 2 minute. I am not obese. I have been lean

[@renemary4109]

I would have liked to see more of this conversation. It was good. 👍🏻

[@cockroachv]

It’s crazy. I LOVE walking and I do love sprinting but I absolutely hate jogging.

[@H0lyH0g]

what about cycling?

[@kdesign73]

What about road cycling... Distance cycling... We are talking about 2-4 hours a day... low to medium intensity...

[@3260ELEMENT]

Dear Dr. Saladino, you haven't spoken about white rice in a while. Is it still possible to thrive with white rice as a part of your animal based diet?

[@rappatenebrense]

Yes

[@sealishproductions]

You will get b1 deficient

[@mufcism]

@@sealishproductions Got any sources on carbs depleting nutrients? V Interested

[@thakraken6995]

​@@sealishproductions make rice with nutritional yeast which has a lot of B1

[@clerede6382]

Rice is very high in arsenic , rises blood sugars, debletes B vitamins and is empty of nutrients.

[@miltonbates6425]

Especially if you got the shot. You might be limited to walking for the rest of your life.

[@surfboarding5058]

Vaxxed sheep 🐑

[@ChrisTrovato]

Why’s that? My wife was forced and is more active than ever

[@burger101ful]

I got three shots and I’m the healthiest I’ve ever been in a long time

[@surfboarding5058]

@@burger101ful you got three shots and you’re a stoopid sheep 🐑

[@thepatternforms859]

WHAT A LOAD OF ANTISCIENCE GARBAGE.....THERE IS NOTHING HARMFUL ABOUT VACCINES...INTERNET NUT

[@alejandromanuelfernandezme5706]

Sprints and intense running for short distances might be better? I kind of think so Like going max speed for 1 minute and do it more than once

[@loganurro4890]

I really enjoy running .5 to 1 mile at a fast pace

[@Psyche_Up]

Sprinting + middle distance (~1 mile at a time) have always been more fun for me anyway! Happy to hear this news :)

[@taylorg8509]

If you go the track It can be fun yes Local high school near me their track has the lights on at night great place to run 400s

[@Psyche_Up]

@@taylorg8509 I was a 400m runner back in high school 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲

[@chefboyartee8521]

This dude looks extremely healthy just that alone should speak for itself idk how you can argue what he says

[@madmatt6454]

Reminds me of when he was on the doctor's and some fat chick was bashing him. Like bruh, do u not see his body? Why would I listen to a fat pig over a lean sex machine?

[@aidenblackburn9806]

so you are just going to believe everything he says based on how he looks

[@madmatt6454]

@@aidenblackburn9806 uh.... are you suggesting you'd rather take fitness advice from a fat slob over this fine male specimen? You do you. I hear being fat has its perks. You get to enjoy unnatural foods like pizza and ice cream. You also get to lose your limbs and eye sight to diabetes in your 40s and 50s. Good stuff!

[@chefboyartee8521]

@@aidenblackburn9806 nope, just saying the proof is in the pudding

[@frequency_sequencer]

I think these days my 5k runs do more bad than good

[@timdelgado5549]

What about intense cardio above 35 years old like soccer?

[@TerriblePerfection]

That getting knocked over though...

[@timslee0618]

I wonder what people like Zach Bitter and Cam Hanes say about this? Zach Bitter does Carnivore on and off throughout the year