Payday 3 Beta: What Worked [And What Didn't]

[@cookiedou3]

the beta was good, just not enough unhasping for my liking.

[@TheUpcomingPayday]

💀

[@liamswe0075]

Yeah cuz its an beta its not a full game you cant rly judge it

[@skaynne54]

Unhasping?

[@Butterspoon999]

Shush

[@HatsOffYT]

Fr like 6 windows to unhasp wtf unplayable

[@ryanchong9965]

For what I would consider a very old build of the game, it was a really good hands-on preview. A lot of the core elements were present and clearly fleshed out. The difficulty degree was also a good challenge.

[@vallarfaxgaming]

That's something a lot of people haven't taken into account The beta build was from April and was fairly old while the most recent gameplay footage from gamescon showing the dockyard heist has made it pretty clear how vastly improved the game will be at launch

[@ryanchong9965]

@vallarfaxgaming That's why I think a lot of people who don't read into the details and jump to conclusions are idiots. They gave us the information that they would be giving us an old build, not to test core gameplay but to test the network and match making.

[@adamterry77]

The stealth is fantastic you can do so much before masking up which is a huge upgrade we did stealth on overkill with a team of 4 and we all had a blast. In fact all four of us pre ordered the gold to play on the 18 th of September and I can’t sing it’s praises higher than that 👍 We all played on series x

[@ThatGuy-ek8ff]

Yeah I also love how if you have that one Idiot on your team that gets caught immediately the heist won't instantly fail. He'll just be escorted out and everyone isn't punished for one person's small mistake

[@adamterry77]

Absolutely it’s a game changer 👍

[@brentbottoms2876]

You could even complete the heist completely in stealth (grifter walk the walk and camera looping) and just guess the code. (This also allows a pacifist run)

[@rbrbnd]

there was actually an fov slider on steam, though it only went up to 90, which is usually standard in most games

[@cybereon]

hope it gets increased to 120 which is often also a standard fov for fps games

[@morphious86.]

indeed, my jaw dropped when I saw the default setting, and even more so when I saw it caps at 90

[@forkkal]

There was a steam guide to increase fov past 90

[@eye_mask582]

I was happy to see that multiple people could actually get through stealth without it being a nightmare. The gameplay was very good, especially after being able to level up lol

[@lucagamingcircus]

I did get into the Beta (Steam so I played on PC) The only issues I had performance wise was the very rare high ping aka around 120ms. But other than that, the beta ran flawlessly. Or maybe that's just because my PC runs things good. I don't know. Either way. I'm excited for the full release. VERY excited. New York will soon be struck down spectacularly. Because some old heisters were forced into a Payday :)

[@gael_177]

Weirdly enough I once got 400ms and I never experienced lag/package lose

[@kvadr0n]

I have once managed to solo defuse 8 dye packs. The trick was to guess which dye pack starts first (they are not simultaneous) hold interaction key after defusing before the next one (automatically starts interaction once an interactable object is in sight) and look at the next(ish) dyepack in activation order with lightning speed. Repeat 6 more times.

[@Lucios1995]

Not sure but I think the first perk from the Negotiation tree helped? (Tie up and trade 50% faster)

[@JamalCrawf0rd]

2 things we need is 1.fov 2.deadzone changes if they don’t have both on launch I won’t be playing loud

[@blackadder5346]

i unfortunately didn't get in the beta but a mate of mine did, so he showed me a lot of the gameplay and mechanics and it defused any anxieties I had left about the game, gonna pre-order as soon as i can.

[@mrtooles3780]

played on xbox series x and had zero problems runs very good👍

[@virjohnity]

As a fellow Series X player I didnt notice any crashes at all I played for about 15 or so hours. I will say something that really annoyed me and you didnt talk about in this video is the controls kinda suck. very janky, almost clunky. I had to fine tune it for a while and when I finally got something good I noticed that my ADS speed was really slow but thats the only way I could get a smoother moving ADS speed. Do you know if this is something that is going to be fixed or is fixed already? cause it reminded me of how bad the controls were for Payday 2.

[@luckyzruby]

payday 2 didn't have specific heists, more eras of heists where solo was not a good idea. however you could still do it all with patience and proper planning.

[@edouardgaming9813]

I had an amazing time playing the beta it was awesome but yeah i agree on not penalising solo player but someone managed to defuse all dyepack on is own but it requirered god reflex and i also had lag when playing on my pc but other then that it was amazing i can't wait for payday 3 to release

[@vallarfaxgaming]

The game is designed with team play in mind, so while it is possible to defuse all dye packs it shouldn't be made easy enough specifically for a minority of players who play solo

[@Karzakus]

I actually wasn't a huge fan of overkill stealth. Due to you having 2 less pagers and a guard that literally *can not be killed* . especially if you were solo stealthing the run was absolutely miserable. To start If you got the loot drop off in front of the bank you might as well just restart. This is because the head guard towards the end of the heist changes his pathing to walk through towards the front of the bank for a shit load of time. He wastes so much time that you'll most likely get caught before delivering all the bags, but even if you didn't it would have been faster to restart the entire heist and do it over again with a better spawn in the time it would take waiting for the head guard to move. On that topic, waiting. That is what I hate so much about overkill stealth, unlike masterpieces like shadow raid or the yacht heist where you basically never needed to wait for anything and could go as fast as you felt comfortable with, overkill stealth is the complete opposite basically being *ENTIRELY* a wait simulator. With an unkillable guard constantly patrolling the map and the fact that if you get caught in casing mode instead of sounding the alarm you get escorted out to the front of the bank (which takes bloody forever) about 50% of your overkill stealth run is going to just be waiting and doing quite literally nothing. In payday 2 since you had 4 pagers across all difficulties there were very few heists where you actually had to wait, since worst case scenario you kill a guard and answer their pager to free up parts of the map, but due to the insanely limited pagers in overkill for payday 3 you end up being in casing mode for 50% of the heist trying to do as much as you can, with every time a guard seeing you forcing you to wait 10-30 seconds of doing absolutely nothing as they escort you out. This was one of the most basic lessons that was learned from payday 2. *nobody likes having to wait and do absolutely nothing for a guard to rotate during stealth* . In spite of this, from this heist at least instead of learning from that lesson they seem to have designed their entire stealth system around that very idea. The head guard alone is a horrible concept since each of his pagers are *real* pagers, making it so if you kill him at any point in the heist it's just a restart. If it only consumed a pager when you failed to answer his pager, it'd be a hell of a lot better. Beyond that though the fact that overkill stealth just removes pagers to make it more difficult turns payday 3 stealth from oceans 11 into waiting simulator 2023, since they make pagers so valuable and place guards in places where they pretty much *need* to be killed depending on the loot drop off spawn. It turns from "you have 2 pagers" to "you have functionally 0 or 1 pagers" since solo at least you need 1 pager to kill cams, and generally need 1 pager to kill the guard in front of the vault unless you get the good loot drop off spawn. At the end of the day i still loved the payday 3 beta I got a good 30 hours in of game time, but if they want to make payday 3 solo stealth on overkill good they either need to change their guard pathing and placement design so that there aren't guards you absolutely NEED to kill in a heist, or they need to add more pagers so you can functionally actually be allowed to make a mistake or two without the heist auto failing. Along with this they need to change the design of the headguard because currently having an unkillable guard that patrols the entire map is just a godawful concept. easiest fix would be making it so his pagers don't count as long as they're answered, but honestly I dislike the concept of the head guard entirely it's just anti fun design. Lastly this is a minor thing but they need to fix a fuck ton of bugs. I had the head guard catch a tied up civilian that I stored inside of the bathroom with the door closed from the freaking stairway, and if a guard sees a civilian tied up and frees them guess what? The civilian is now bullet immune and will run out of the heist as you shoot the shit out of them to go set off the alarm. Had a lovely experience where a guard barely freed one of my tied up civ's, I killed the guard and unloaded all my ammunition into the god mode civilian running out the bank unable to do anything as the heist failed

[@OriginalSuper]

Oh! I was so excited to hear that I actually got in to the beta, it was the first time I really ever “won” anything like that. And then heartbreak when I realized I missed the chance to play it.. Oh well, from what I’ve seen though I’m gonna love the game, definitely more than good old Payday 2

[@tacojayden]

I'm not a stealth player but I love it in pd3, but the thing i like the most is trying to do the heist in stealth and even after failing I can continue playing because the skill system is so flexible so i can do it In loud. This is the best thing they added and this beta made me buy the Gold version of payday 3.

[@criptor1996]

A few criticisms I have besides optimization: - Solo players shouldn't be locked out of full loot. Maybe I missed a skill but I couldn't disarm all the dye packs in time - Not everything should stay the same when restarting mainly codes. Finding out the vault code then restarting to enter it straight in felt too cheesy - They need to reduce the amount of times you get escorted out. Having one person distract the guard by getting caught on purpose is way too effective Basically stealth is a bit too easy. Granted this seems to be the "beginner" heist so maybe it gets harder.

[@DR_REDACTED]

Only thing i fully agree on is how soloing feels discourage hard. With the dye packs etc.

[@in2darabbithole967]

The codes being the same was due to the fact that when restarting a mission we would get back to the same mission's state (Same guards' pathing, same code, same wire color to cut). I highly doubt the full game will have the same issue.

[@WizardCraft-ox4pe]

They went on record to say map RNG will stay the same *if you reset the heist manually while still in heist* and that the rng will change if you exit out of it and come back into it, fyi.

[@in2darabbithole967]

@@WizardCraft-ox4pe Good to know. I personally didn't hate it, but it's a strange decision on their part to keep the same seed.

[@WizardCraft-ox4pe]

@@in2darabbithole967 I mean its a mixed bag, if you get the best possible rng for loot its great its never reset if you happened to fail, on the other hand its a bit more predictable, but i think its fine enough for the casual player experience

[@ThatGuy-ek8ff]

For me I played on pc. I have an nvidia rtx 3050. And the game ran at about 80 fps on high graphics and only dipped below 60 when evergthing was on ultra. I think the game may be strong for most lower end pcs. But compared to other games like darktide it runs very well.

[@kyletam3108]

I didnt get in but both my friends did :( but the game looks really cool and in depth with stealth and loud mechanics

[@BornTrxsh]

Hope you get in

[@kyletam3108]

@@BornTrxshthe beta is over 😢

[@OscarMartinez-sb3ev]

Loved the beta ,but i still feel like they need an option so we can play in a solo lobby

[@brucewayne4360]

Search private? ONLY Friends?

[@pazantine]

Closed Beta was public matchmaking-only purposely to stress the servers. They've confirmed the final game will have private and friends-only lobbies.

[@thedummy2405]

God bless u for taking about the series s

[@JackTheR3aper]

Funny thing about challenges, but what you described in improvements is how they worked in Payday: The Heist/PD1, sans the toggle for it.

[@japedav619]

I appreciate the ability to being able to do stealth even if you are kitted out for more of a loud build and vice versa. Restarting a mission when things go wrong was almost a non issue unless our team wanted to stealth it as a challenge. However, that was our decision and not because was HAD to restart.

[@crypix]

For me the biggest gripe I had was the "feel" of the gunplay, which felt considerably worse than Payday 2. Individual gunshots has less impact. Recoil is non existent. Animations are inconsistent. SFX took a huge step back. I really hope they improve before launch. Here's a comparison for reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWXVen-Yop5-irM

[@revan5293]

I had a great time. A few connection issues. And joining games with friends where minds messes but we did it.

[@rily8329]

They announced the beta ended at 10am UK time but others and I were still playing it four hours later

[@Rhevize]

Excluding not having fov on console yet it was a pure beta experience

[@honomaki4391]

I was only able to play beta for like 2 hours and i love it and then i pre-ordered the game

[@TheAtomicWarrior]

I managed to play the Beta on PC and had an overall blast. I might have had a dodgy internet connection so i'm unsure wether it was on my end or the servers. So far OVERKILL has managed to make a bit more optimistic, but i remain cautious since i had the same feeling when playing Darktide's closed and open Beta: they had a few issues to deal with that we thought would be dealt with at launch and they somehow failed to adress the following issues: -Full Crafting -Grind and RNG -Connection Issues -Lack of weapons -Lackluster blessings -Radio silence The game has gotten to where it should have been at launch... roughly SEVEN MONTHS LATER. For now OVERKILL has momentum but they can't afford to fumble the launch, because if they do then they will go down the path of Darktide with many players reviewbombing and they will tarnish a reputation that already is questionable in regards to their Denuvo and Online-Only policy.

[@Breakdownthedoor]

One thing they need to fix is hostage pathing, like I would be trying to move multiple hostages and they would just randomly sit down or stand still

[@ryank5oo]

Did anyone else find the deadzone on console really annoying or just me?

[@thetissuebandit5815]

On my series S the game ran fine and the only issues i ran into were 2 server disconnections

[@manlikekarnak]

I agree with your sentiments about the solo experience being punished. That for sure needs to be changed. I didn’t get into the beta; I’m a PS5-only player. I’ve only ever played Payday 2 on console, and we all know how bad that version of the game is. As a result, I’ve never really had people to play the game with, since every Payday player went to PC. Therefore, I’ve only ever known solo Payday 2. I plan to play Payday 3 primarily alone (unless my boys on PC get it), so I REALLY hope the solo experience isn’t punished. If I’m playing Payday 3, I wanna get what I never got with Payday 2, so of course I wanna try online, but at the same time, I’ve grown to enjoy the solo experience a LOT, so I’d love to be able to experience that as well without being punished.

[@vallarfaxgaming]

The game is heavily designed with team play in mind, get friends or get randoms If you choose to play solo that's on YOU and NOT Overkill

[@Outrider42]

This is why the game is on Game Pass, the dedicated servers. They made a deal with MS that gives them dedicated servers in exchange for putting PD3 on Game Pass. Both sides benefit.

[@MrCrazyGameGuy]

The stealth is so much better, but it's a bit easy now. I really hope they increase guard awareness and have different tiers of guards as you move up through difficulty. I would like to have those guards as a base, and then have like... Murkywater security who are like super guards and pay much more attention. Took me about 3 attempts before I was able to stealth the mission perfectly, and another 2 before I could do it on Overkill. Also quite a few of the new perks are ridiculously overpowered, I could have rush on and instant pick anything, along with gaining rush everytime I pick something; cleared the safety boxes in the vault in like 60 seconds. Microcameras are... phenomenal, by far the best thing ever added in the game, if that was the only change they made I would've been happy.

[@vallarfaxgaming]

I think that's the point, the new buffs like rush, edge and grit are supposed to be utilised as much as possible to help the heist go more smoothly

[@ayyvian5488]

To answer your question regarding performance, I'm on PC with an RTX 2070 SUPER, an i7-9700K CPU and 16GB RAM, so it's rather high-end but not exactly top-tier. There were missing text strings in the controls menu so I wasn't entirely sure what most of the key binds were, and it took a bit of experimenting until I figured out how to do certain actions like ping or shout. Framerate wise, I could barely maintain a steady 60-90 FPS uncapped while using the lowest settings, and since I've got a 2540x1440p monitor with 240Hz refresh rate, there was noticeable micro stuttering, even with 60FPS capped. Hopefully they'll add more variable FPS cap options, like 90 in between 60 and 120 to mitigate said stutter. The game almost felt like I was playing in a slower motion sometimes, like the overall movement, aiming down sights and gunshots felt weird, but it might've just been me needing to adjust from having played Payday 2 for a long-ass time. Still, it's probably the micro stuttering like I said. I will be buying the Gold edition regardless to support them, I had an enjoyable experience overall and hope to see any improvements implemented at launch.

[@ayyvian5488]

Also, as a side note: There's one bank teller in particular that gets stuck between the chair and the desk, so you can't tie him up or even grab him. Basically a non-issue, but in case anyone over at Starbreeze sees this, uh, here it is

[@CrispyPro]

haha I was happy to see that multiple people could actually get through stealth without it being a nightmare. The gameplay was very good, especially after being able to level up lol

[@RedArcherLive]

Ayo?

[@Ryan03091992]

3080 ti and i7-9700k, saw no stability issues. Had one minor studder from a grenade but it was noticed for just a millisecond. Otherwise no crashes, matchmaking worked totally fine for me, and no lag what so ever. Great experience and getting full game at launch.

[@Andrigo33]

I would like to expand on your "Improvement 1: challenges", I would also like to pin a challenge, so you can see it ingame. Maybe be able to pin 1-3 challenges. I think it helps to see how close you're a completing it, fx get 100 kills with a weapon, if you're about to end the heist and you have 95 kills, you can easily get the last 5 without having todo another heist Also it helps to see if you're doing the right "thing" to complete the challenge, not all people are equaly great at english. So maybe some people did not quite understand what it says, and can easily confirm ingame what they're doing is right/wrong. It would really suck thinking you're completing a challenge, for then when you get out of the heist, see that the "counter" has not moved at all

[@ThatGamer-1995]

Beta ran well on series x no complaints.

[@AskingWalnut4]

Lord Almir unhasp and now has rehasped access to payday 3. For now let us join together and be happy it happened. (Honestly had a blast with the beta, on Xbox series x, no crashes or anything)

[@SilverGeFer]

The beta already made me excited for the future of the game. This will undoubtedly be one of the best PayDay experiences to date…when they start patching and fixing some of the bigger issues. I do think the UI and sound effects need a full rework though as those were my biggest gripes with how the game looked and felt. But let’s not forget PayDay 2 will always exist

[@scootaloo9491]

I mean The Ui is already different.

[@SilverGeFer]

@@scootaloo9491 Talking about menu UI. I do like the changes they made to the HUD though from Beta to Final Release. Looks great 👍

[@scootaloo9491]

@@SilverGeFer Oh, yeah, that. Idk, to me it looks o k. But i haven't actually been able to play the game yet, so i can't say much.

[@SilverGeFer]

@@scootaloo9491 It gets a bit messy when you pick the options to buy straight from the loadouts menu. I struggled quite a bit on controller scrolling through the buyers and such trying to go back to the loadouts menu. Most likely easier on PC since it looks like any other PC menu though

[@scootaloo9491]

@@SilverGeFer Hm.. Well, i just guess we'll see. I'm on Console too, soo.. Hopefully it won't actually be an issue.

[@Brobal]

I really hate the level up system, challenges should be optional not mandatory.

[@TheOriginalMallk]

Played only 15 hours of the beta on PC, no issues though with performance. Have a 3070, I7 11700K, 32 GB ram, ran unlimited frames with no drops under 165 Hz that I noticed.

[@Abyssalx]

LOVE YOU BROTHER

[@fordsrgay4881]

The ai pathing and cooperation makes loud game play 10x better imo. On my first beta run, I remember being suppressed, flanked, naded and wiped by shields and swat working together. I was grinning the whole time. Was sweet.

[@jstormy8168]

I just had a some desync when joining in on heists about two minutes in I wasn’t experiencing it often but it did happen and it was causing downs or bags not getting picked up. Same issue payday 2 had that was never fixed.

[@Taldirok]

Excluding that they lied about the "100k keys sent" it seemed pretty good for an "old" build, but that wasn't a stress test at all.

[@RedArcherLive]

Okay and what evidence do you have that they lied? And don't say "there were never close to 100k users playing" because that was never going to happen

[@cosmicvcosmic]

got in on last day first heist I got stuck and couldnt move, second heist I couldnt turn left or right or up and down, third heist first completion

[@specialfred453]

Ryzen 7 5800X, 32 GB DDR4, RTX 3060 Ti, I was getting a pretty consistent 90-100 FPS at 1440p at max settings

[@KingKuso]

The dyepack solution tou came up with soumds good, but the problem with running that in a public lobby is what if someone joins mid heist, or leave mid heist, it'll most likely bug out the timers or if not cause a lot of stress on the engine constantly having to change the timers back and forth.

[@fiyahquacker2835]

Not really since it can just be like it is with the cams in no mercy.

[@kymberlite]

Ryzen 5 5600X, Nvidia RTX 3080, 32GB RAM, 7000mbs SSD here on PC. Game ran at 60fps with most graphics settings on medium, so very CPU heavy. Unfortunately I think I'll have to pick up a new CPU post-launch unless I compromise and get a smaller upgrade than I'd like

[@azismoothjudah5894]

As a PS5 player, I wish the beta was available for us as well, but it looks good. I do miss a few aspects of payday 2 that could have been implemented in my opinion (like body bags) but overall, I'm ready to see how it plays.

[@purelypeach8008]

Sheeeeeeeeeesh! Very nice video!

[@Evosti]

hasnt even been out for five minutes lol its like 15 long

[@purelypeach8008]

@@Evosti I saw the video was out for 20 seconds and had to comment lmao! It was a very good and informative video! I can not wait for Payday 3 and I wish I had a chance to play the beta!

[@vambach2947]

I wanted the money to be better spent, having to think "is it worth buying this, or this". because it's on PD2 money is irrelevant, after a few heists you can already buy everything ( on higher difficulties of course).

[@Rhevize]

I’ve never had a more coordinated stealth experience in my life than last night I’m a console player and I got pared with 3 pc players and we fully stealthed in sub 7 it was so coordinated we didn’t even had comms I controlled first floor I had a spotter with me and up stares the other two randoms were up stares doing the same like it’s was amazing

[@damianstewart3273]

Series S, The ONLY problem I had was that one time, while hacking in the security room, the game wouldn't continue the next step, and we were stuck to do nothing unless we wanted to go loud so we restarted but that's it

[@ChiefofGnomeCommand]

I quite liked it, will preorder because of it. playesd on pc with an rtx 3050 and 16 gigs of ram. It had some goofy fps in the beginning but playing 30 minutes the game stabilized

[@ModernXXV]

It will take time for this game to top Payday 2,The mechanics of Payday 3 feel nice but the love I have for Payday 2 is far more than some new mechanics and graphics,still excited though

[@DaSplatfestGurl]

My main issue were lag spikes and that the difficulty is welcomed, but it's a little bit too high. I shouldn't be having to fight wave after wave of nothing but tazers, dropkicking green men, and dozers. I was on normal difficulty.

[@ItsVoltali]

as far as Game Pass goes, Xbox announced they had 120 million concurrent subs, as of January 2023. If even a 10th of that go on Payday 3 at launch, I guarantee the servers will shit the bed. I think Overkill need to do some major chaos/stress testing over the next few weeks

[@Rhevize]

Series S user here only time I had frame rate drops was when I would purposely sit on the thermite had no crashes or any issues seems to be an internet thing

[@zick5078]

imma be honest. Them doing a beta on a build 4 months out of date was not the right move. When the game releases, it going to have over twice the amount of content than what's in the beta. More content means more potential technical issues. So in reality, what did we really accomplish by playing on a 4 month old build

[@stubblytuna4068]

as frustrating as stealth was in p2 it had a certain charm about it, is the charm still there. i hope it is!

[@Lokoso7]

Played on PC. 6950XT, Ryzen 7 5800x, 32gb of RAM Running on 3840x1080 resolution (32:9) Had performance issues, lower than 60 FPS most of the time. Had to change resolution to get playable framerates.

[@RedArcherLive]

Damn... It's really intriguing seeing the mix here

[@littleninja4019]

for the getting the beta the day before it ended i put in a good bit of hours and i must say for the build we played on it was good. Even with a mid spec build i sadly had to turn stuff down and having fps drops here and there i enjoyed my time cant wait to play it when it fully comes out

[@crabwater]

I have a 1050ti and an AMD Ryzen 5 3600. Ran perfectly in 720p, I got over 40 FPS which is a win

[@DomExists]

Only things I didn’t like about the build was slight fps drops and disabling all dye packs being impossible solo. The fps will probably be fixed and the dye packs are fair since the game is made for team play but either way this old build makes me even more excited for September

[@Undefined_l]

Its time to let the wicked rest

[@182ndNegociator]

You don't have to take an inked money bag when you fail to get all of them. There are two more clean money bags in the safety deposit boxes somewhere.

[@vallarfaxgaming]

Inked money bags are still valuable, just not as much as clean ones Literally no point in leaving behind dyed bags, you're throwing away money and exp

[@Lucios1995]

They need to add a 'Closest 3 Challenges' part on the TAB screen, like Payday The Heist. Also, let me know how much i'm making from Loose Items or bags, like PD2. Something new I wanna suggest, add a small "Take" counter that ticks up like Grand Theft Auto V and Online, would really help the dopamine hits.

[@RedArcherLive]

That would be SO COOL

[@azzieboba]

i played on pc, maxed out but only 1080p, i have an rtx 3090 ti and a ryzen 9 7950x with 32GB of ddr5 ram, the inside of the bank or just looking at the bank would drop me from 110 to about 70fps, meanwhile i would get 120-150 in the streets.

[@Professorcat99]

The look (right stick) controllers were painfully bad. Did not one else experience this? It never felt good to look or aim no matter how long you fiddled with the settings. I really hope they fix this.

[@PROPHYZ]

I was wondering, will the final product will have a playlist where we can choose heist soundtracks payday 2 style ? If I hear the rift from the beta heist one more time, I will just completely mute the music. Anyway found the beta to be pretty dope, now the online only move with nebula is something I don't get... with denuvo on top they are shitting on themselves before the game is even out. This is the biggest problem I have so far & how the fk are there no private lobbys ? If this stays in it's a no buy for me.

[@agentcoffee3722]

Well i had fun on the beta :)))

[@Shnozolla]

I have a founders edition RTX 4080 and the game ran like butter for me

[@j-swag7438]

doesn't say much about the optimization though. the 4080 is the 3rd most powerful gpu in the world so it can handle just about any unoptimized trash you throw at it.

[@mingham3285]

PC player here, I have an RX 6800 and i7-10700k system with 32GB of RAM and found that I couldn't run the game at 1440p high without major frame drops, but bumping it down to medium mostly solved those issues. Unsure if it's because of an AMD driver issue or if the beta just wasn't well optimized but hoping that it's sorted by the time of the launch

[@ExpertAtAll]

Same I have a 3070 ti and a 5800x 32 gb I would run everything on low and the frames would fluctuate from 70 to 120. I hope it’s better optimized by the full release

[@Just_lean]

I wish there was a better animation for picking up bags and tied up hostages

[@unity3934]

My first heist in the beta was so choppy then it fixed itself after that heist, probably a shader thing. I crashed once in my 24hrs playtime. FPS:87-120 Ultra settings, Motion Blur~Depth of Field~Vesync - OFF Specs: Ryzen 7 7700x Rtx 4070 TI 2x16gb 6000mhz cl36 ram 2Tb nvme ssd x2 raid 0 3440x1440p 165hz Monitor

[@unity3934]

I created tons of builds in the beta. (considering I have over 4k hours on payday 2.) The skill system needs a bit of a rehaul, 47 skill points at level 150, I could get everything and more I want. (They already stated most the skills have been reworked.) I created infi ammo build with heavy armour, infi ammo with speedy asf boi vibes, and infi health and ammo build (Didn't quite work correctly due to not being able to hipfire with secondary with a human shield ~~~Please fix)

[@nightly4804]

registered the first day it was available, didn’t get a single code. friend of mine registers days later and gets it within a day🤦🏽‍♂️

[@akirahusky1683]

3:25 I agree near the end of the beta I adapted a build that was like 75% loud but I had hacker and cam loops so I would chill in the lobby on cams looping them for my team and if shit hit the fan I was running a full loud tank build with medium armor p.s I play on a serise s and never ran into a single crash or framerate drop I might have just been lucky but the beta ran really smooth for me only bugs I encountered was when they had to disable the leveling system cause it was causing the nebula problems somehow and the escape wouldn't activate sometimes it was very rare though only happened like 3 times

[@BlandTaco]

I will say I was a bit dissapointed with the map design of the bank heist, so much of the layout felt like they just copy and pasted a heist from Payday 2. When this is 1/8 of the game at launch I would expect there to be more depth and replayability.

[@johnjohnson7259]

I’m kinda disappointed they didn’t add a command wheel for the rest of your crew when playing solo. Things like go there, or interact with this. That’s actually a huge missed opportunity

[@AurieError9995]

i was running a ryzen 5 5600g, 16 gigs of ram and a gtx 1650, and i experienced horrible freezes. i believe the game is very VRAM hungry, as the 1650 only has 4 gigs of VRAM. the game ran just fine, i was getting good frames, but it would freeze, which is usually an indication of RAM/VRAM problems. i played the game on the last day on the beta, and i experienced no freezes, so maybe they changed something? either way, i enjoyed the game a lot, but the performance issues might be something to concern people with lower end systems, so watch out if you're running a graphics card with 4 gigs of VRAM, you may or may not struggle, depending on how the game goes forward with optimization and the UE5 jump.

[@TimRoel]

They should increase bot health or revive speed when you doing solo loud. Since the bots arent extremely tanky anymore going down when your playing solo is just an instant loss

[@Lucios1995]

They do toss armor or ammo at least

[@TimRoel]

@@Lucios1995 thats true but they put them down as soon as you need them wich most of the time is not a good spot for them

[@arrayn5619]

I played on PC, have 6600 XT. Could play ultra had around 60 fps but it started droping after an hour. If I play on high I get 90+ stable. It is a pretty beefy game lol. Not a problem for the current gen.

[@AvoiseTheDoise]

for my pc (12GB RTX 2060, intel Core i7 and 16 gb ram) i got in the 70s when there was nothing really happening and then like 50s/40s when there was a massive assault or something. A suggestion i have is for the bag carrying, i was thinking that maybe you could carry one bag on your back and then another 2 in one hand. This would lower your accuracy and prevent you from aiming down sights ofc.

[@thedummy2405]

Stealth looks so good I wish I could play it 😢

[@Katzh]

I hope they do an open beta with a more recent build / release build.

[@FunSizedBag]

On Xbox series S the game ran at between 60 and 30 fps but I pretty much never ran it at 60. I was mostly around 40-30fps. I hope they make a performance mode or something for series S.

[@gael_177]

Sorry for commenting something unrelated but You think they will/can add the beef/vyse mask from the heist in payday 3?

[@bwehhueh5135]

I honestly didn't play much of the beta since i kept accidentally throwing grenades with it being bound to G and ruining stealth attempts for me and others. Which is why i prefer having it on the 3 key but that is a me problem mostly.

[@Masterlink01]

I got into the beta but didn't play much because I had other stuff to do. I'm on PC (it's relatively decent: R7 5700x, RTX 3060ti, 16gb RAM) and it honestly ran like crap sometimes. It a few places it ran at 60FPS, but there were drops in a lot of places (down to 32FPS), especially during fire fights and in the sprinklers section, so it made it more difficult to aim. I also didn't like how you couldn't play alone. I know Payday is supposed to be a Co-op game, but if I can't play with my friends, I'd much rather play solo than with random people. I did like the heist though, and gameplay feels good as well. I just need to know whether they'll force Steam users to use the Epic Games online services before I buy it though.

[@Rhevize]

I never crashed either I didn’t have any issues but wow I’m preordering this for my sake lol

[@dangdudedan8756]

it feels like starbreeze dont care about us

[@purple_1884]

Matchmaking was a disaster. Gameplay element on the other hand felt REALLY good. Game feels like PD:TH with PD2's best bits. Dozers are L4D Tank-level of a threat now. Hilarious seeing people on forums moaning over difficulty spike because they go down while running like headless chickens all over the place (just like in the second game) and expect to not get downed.

[@noahlarsen16]

I was using a midrange pc with a 970 in it and the game ran fine on medium graphics but did crash about 10 minutes into the heist. My brother’s machine with a 3070 ran fine though and seemingly no crashing

[@KingaX5King]

Beta was fun just wish I had a PlayStation version because PC fps was not really working well, put graphics on every setting and while there was a difference in appearance, the fps remained basically the same.

[@HatsOffYT]

Only problems with the beta was performance it was around 45 to 59 fps and everyone i played with acted like they never played a game before

[@beepis7918]

I hope there will be an fov slider for consoles, because Sea of Thieves has a low fov that cannot be changed (even on PC) because it's allegedly against Xbox terms of service. I guess they don't want PC players having an advantage, but they already do because better controls and stability.

[@RedArcherLive]

Xbox TOS didn't allow a FOV slider? Bruh