Paying Monthly for Instagram?

[@leighinibiza]

The old saying “if something is free, you are the product” probably needs to be updated to include “…you can also pay to be the product”.

[@MatthewMoscotto]

Great point

[@TechReviewTom]

Spot on

[@letitbeai]

And now you will pay to be the product 🤣🤡

[@ibukunokunoye4795]

@Summit313 normal

[@BoostAndRedline]

💯💯💯

[@JackAllpikeMusic]

the fact that most of the 'perks' behind meta verified are things that should be the default is what angers me. you're paying for quick, proper customer support? to be protected from impersonators? that's the bare minimum is it not

[@aviralgupta393]

it's not, hasn't been for a long time now

[@Mari-Yama]

Well said! My thoughts exactly!

[@fidato_]

Meta is beyond stupid. More followers and popularity means you can get away with posting anything. Meanwhile when people like us post a picture of even our finger it gets deleted for being adult content 😅😂 Imagine how much more biased the system is gonna get after this

[@jamesvanderbilt201]

meta has become more of a malware than entertainment

[@RayValdezPhotography]

I got a blue check after my main business page was deleted for no reason in march. Soon as I made my first post with the blue check, i got spam about buying followers and spam on all my reels. It's outta control and they delete legit accounts more than scam accounts.

[@daveSoupy]

paying to remove ads doesnt feel good when the posts themselves are ads. my friends dont post at all anymore and we just send reels back and forth. Literally thats all we do anymore.

[@Striker50_]

I felt this in my soul. It absolutely killed personal interactions

[@definingslawek4731]

The reason the posts are ads is that they don't pay their creators, which are the reason why anyone spends time on their platform consuming the ads and making them money. So the only way a creator can continuously make high quality content is to become professional, but the only way to do that when there's no money is to make money by making posts that are ads. So Instagram feeds are ads sandwiched between ads disguised as posts.

[@Striker50_]

@@definingslawek4731 Good take, but social media was meant to be social. It's interactions with friends. KZbin is another story because it's legitimate content creation with purpose

[@definingslawek4731]

@@Striker50_ very interesting point!

[@Striker50_]

@@definingslawek4731 Thanks! Yeah my personal experience is simply that we don't even see our friends' pictures anymore, it's utter bombardment with ads and suggested posts. Most of the content is no longer static (pictures for example) it's all endless videos and LAYERS of an abyss versus in 2012 it was just scrolling until you saw everything that had to be seen and then you got bored and hopped off

[@AkashYadavOriginal]

From saying Facebook is invading my privacy. To paying them to upload your Government ID. What a progress!!

[@AkashYadavOriginal]

@Eli Ubaldo Alternatives either die because they never get popular or they bought out like Instagram and WhatsApp.

[@vectoralphaSec]

​@Eli Ubaldo no we don't need alternatives. Social media didn't exist until the mid 2000s. We don't need it.

[@vectoralphaSec]

​@Eli Ubaldo no we don't need alternatives. Social media didn't exist until the mid 2000s. We don't need it.

[@vectoralphaSec]

​@Eli Ubaldo no we don't need alternatives. Social media didn't exist until the mid 2000s. We don't need it.

[@vectoralphaSec]

​@Eli Ubaldo no we don't need alternatives. Social media didn't exist until the mid 2000s. We don't need it.

[@nosauce5321]

I would never hesitate to delete the heck out of Instagram if they ask me for money.

[@Ghettofinger]

Heckin heck!

[@chrisjfox8715]

They're essentially asking content creators for money seeing how those are the people that make money using social media, and suffer the most if their accounts get compromised

[@deltrondc]

Me too

[@ICON-11-]

Same

[@ZEFFENWULF]

It happened

[@CyclingGeo]

I genuinely hate Instagram lately. I still use it so I can get the tiny sliver of content my friends post and Instagram decides to actually show. It's all just promoted content, reels in non-chronological order and "suggestions". It's just an absolute mess. I just want reels/pictures my friends post. That's it.

[@njomany]

You can click the Instagram logo on top left and click Followings so it only shows those you follow. I myself never browse IG main feed anymore since then

[@br5632]

I mostly look at my friends stories, then the ads in between their stories 😅

[@cristibaluta]

You might be surprised but your friends are not posting stuffs and that's why you are not seeing them, just switch to the timeline with 'Following'. They grew older, life changed, IG and FB flooded us with junks, multiple reasons....

[@CyclingGeo]

@@cristibaluta No, they are. IG just isn’t showing it.

[@teves_9]

On point! I miss the old „real“ IG (not operated by Facebook) as well.

[@Gary0557]

The amount of ads on Instagram is a disgrace. Even when you block them, they still appear a day or two later again.

[@Damienmizerak]

Sorry trynna sell pokemon cards pal

[@Gary0557]

@@Damienmizerak Don't know what your on about mate.

[@ScottLucian]

@@Gary0557 I don't know what he's talking about either.

[@SinisterAudio]

Here’s the question; 5 years now from, how many OTHER online services would have a paid verified tier feature?

[@voxgaming2064]

my gut says all of them will have that. I love Capitalism.

[@pedro.alcatra]

None at all

[@cyan_oxy6734]

Reddit could introduce a service where you have to pay to not be verified.

[@ea_naseer]

World: makes fun of China requiring citizens to use their ID to verify for internet services. Also the world: copies china

[@malikfaisal416]

Let social media serve you targeted ads or you paid them directly?

[@Andrey-rc6wp]

I get up at 6am and I'm not home until around 7pm. I have 2 hours to work on my business every day, and I have maybe an hour to hang out and actually chat with friends or watch KZbin. Once my life became busy and fulfilling, it removed any and all desire to be on social media. It's so draining to get notifications constantly for stuff.

[@cristibaluta]

If you don't disable all notifications you are using it wrong, keep only the messenger. But yes, when you're busy and have a fulfilling life you don't feel the need to scroll endlessly. I noticed especially in vacations how little i care about what people post. I would not even open this video at all normally.

[@CreativelyBad]

If I was asked to pay for social media it would be a great thing because then I would finally delete it

[@theglorfindel]

I kinda agree with moving away from paying for SM with your attention (through ads), to paying a monthly fee. But if I pay, I want to make sure that I see absolutely no ads and that my data goes nowhere.

[@nGUNNARp]

that will never happen with sm owned by zuck

[@demonslayed8895]

That data will always go somewhere regardless of what happens unfortunately.

[@Laura-tb7nm]

I would pay to only see posts from my friends and get rid of the stupid reels and fake accounts.

[@shaqthegr8884]

​@@Laura-tb7nm that would be the only reason I got back in SM

[@hitrecord7830]

Most social media is people selling you stuff anyway.

[@Swimm12984]

My father told me that when cable first came out, the concept was to pay for no ads. Then a few years in, ads came about anyway. Same thing happened with XM radio (albeit only with ads for other XM channels/servíces). This is just a repeat of the same time-tested disingenuous business model: Start off free with ad revenue to generate an audience. Adopt a paid ad-free model. Bait-and-switch.

[@LuckyDineroTv]

KZbin , Netflix

[@Swimm12984]

@@LuckyDineroTv correct

[@JonathanAdamsPhoto]

If you pay to be verified then you should have a guarantee your posts will be shared with those who follow you.

[@dark_nightwing_xl2797]

Wait what?

[@indecisions99]

I'm sorry I can't believe people would pay, still give personal informations to still get ads. I don't use social medias anymore for like 10yrs now, and that's one of the best decision I've made.

[@royroy3]

Ironically when it comes to marketing on the platform you have to upload your ID to give ads to other people 😂😂

[@GerardoTostado]

The problem is that there is no competition in this market and at the same time most apps are controlled by the same people. That’s a monopoly on our media and it’s not right.

[@gaysniper]

TikTok is better

[@ValentinaCastillo-nb5gb]

The crab theory blew my mind and I can't quite believe that wikipedia circles exist, but I want to be in all of them. Please give Ellis a segment for weird fact/thought/ dream of the week.

[@jjoohhhnn]

I really liked you guys making jokes and having fun in this cut. Everything does want to be a crab.

[@JonasWeather]

KZbin premium is worth it to me. You get KZbin music, KZbin ad free, and you get the background play for the KZbin app.

[@cloudyview]

The only way you could get me to pay is if I'm not the product. No advertisements, customizable feed (only algorithmic if I opt in) (I started writing this before you got there in the podcast)

[@piyusarkar3065]

It's a damn stupid social media. I don't wanna pay for something I'm constantly trying to use less and it's unproductive as hell for most people who aren't creators/influencers. I hope it's only for verification and not for regular users

[@shirakawanaoya]

What pisses me off the most is that I have been noticing I crash in reach when it comes to my Facebook business page and I knew something was up and the worst part is that I cannot be a part of the verified group because I'm from Puerto Rico and it seems it's not even available to us. So this is directly affecting my business in more ways than one.

[@photomatt]

Everyone does copy Tumblr! We're having a great time running Tumblr and turning it around. We're also excited to open up the network to federate with open standards. Would love to come on the show to talk about it with y'all.

[@RafaelSwit]

I don’t see how one time ID verification needs to be a monthly subscription. They could offer one time paid verification as a stand alone thing, and offer all the other “bonuses” separately for those who want it.

[@OllyGazal]

I agree

[@Ray_Vun]

since there's that feature to protect your identity by making sure there's no accounts impersonating you, i can see some celebrities and influencers and creators choosing to pay for instagram for that, because they're usually at a bigger risk when people impersonate them

[@stevemuzak8526]

Doesn't matter anymore. You want to be protected? Don't post any videos/photos of you. People use deep fake and AI technology to post porn videos of you. It's already happening.

[@Ray_Vun]

@@stevemuzak8526 good thing i haven't taken a single selfie since finishing highschool in 2010. The only pics that exist of me are government ones like i.d and driver's license

[@stevemuzak8526]

@@Ray_Vun Good. Stay this way. And inform your friends and family members about the danger of posting stuff over internet. It's the worst time to be on social medias.

[@DuskPhanLLC]

So you only verified for 30 days?. I'm still the same person next month. and 12 months after. Why keep paying?

[@Prof.Albusdumbledore]

I think It’ll be better if they do it where you have to have proof of being a creator big or small

[@kiterafrey]

Meta say Twitter have issues with bots after the pay for the check mark and said "okay we'll ask for an ID" and this will make people like it. They totally missed the part that we dislike the pay for verification because it costs money.

[@JWBerry3D]

I hate that no one laughed at MKBHD's joke at 7:50 , "...until you're spending 12 bucks a month for heated seats in your BMW" I cracked up from that! I wish they reacted to that and gave it the laughter I felt it deserved lol. But besides that, great video!

[@BrendanEvan]

If they start charging I’ll be more than happy to delete my account😂

[@iandeming]

I would gladly pay for no ads. KZbin premium is the best thing ever and wish I could have the same across all social channels.

[@holiggan2008]

The issue is that the gaming industry kicked the doors on this. Everything will be subscriptions and micro-transactions. As soon as the other services and industries (like social media) start to see that this might be an actual revenue stream, we're screwed.

[@bmloveofficial]

Everyone will look for alternatives or use the bare bones versions of everything.

[@86figs]

I’d pay $20/m for zero shadow banning, no ads, 100% of my viewers reached when I post or go live, dislike thumbnail, priority post to the top of everyone’s feed and IG stories who follows me and most importantly my profile automatically advertised to more people without needing to pay for boost. I want results goddamnit!

[@aubrey.sibindi]

This is it, I’d pay for this as well

[@bmfairweather]

Hilarious I can’t imagine paying anything for social media after they already make so much money from collecting our data

[@rawnato]

Instagram being paid, I don't see it as a problem, because the company is private and they can do whatever they want with their app! the biggest problem I see is the fact that Instagram doesn't deliver your content to people who already follow you! and I don't see anyone talking about it! will this verified account deliver the content to 100% of the accounts that follow you?

[@chelsea9320]

Yeah I noticed that. How does it work for new posts? How can our followers view our post then? Pay for ads I guess.

[@tshev]

Social networks keep saying since day one that they want us to pay them money for the content we create and sell ads using our data.

[@SUB-20]

When is Sony making a normal camera that works like a phone

[@anthonyphan1922]

Imagine later you have to pay like 200$ or more every month for all the subscription services. This getting ridiculous, subscription everywhere

[@jwoods9659]

Goes to show, most of these tech companies are producing products that people are willing to pay for because they ARE for the most part really advertising companies.

[@sydguitar99]

They should also make it that if your pay for the service you get to have your data not be collected or sold

[@Andrey-rc6wp]

Imagine if an ISP just hired the unlock origin guys and built a literal network wide ad block.

[@adamparsons9507]

This is an excellent idea. Make it super pricy! This will help so much!

[@MDSoulTV]

I rolled my eyes so hard the whole video not because of the guys i think they are great but at how silly this stuff is getting. What a time to be alive I guess.

[@bismaahmad735]

These big companies are screaming, "first pay to give us your ID's, then pay us an extra 4 bucks to subscribe to post your ancestry!"

[@amerikkkasmostwanted7489]

Hopefully this will be the slowly the downfall of social media

[@NoizeTank]

Instagram’s Broadcast is basically Myspace’s Bulletin Board

[@davadh]

Okay, so we're gonna give Meta our government ID to verify us. We're going to give Meta our government ID to be verified. Zuck is soo good at this 🤣

[@LuckyDineroTv]

It’s been like that for years for anything lol

[@davadh]

​@@LuckyDineroTv Not for Facebook

[@ZeinTembo]

"Until you spend 12bucks/m for your heated seats in your BMW" 😂😂😂😂

[@vectoralphaSec]

I lived 17 years without social media back when it didn't exist. I don't need social media to exist. It's not important in life so screw social media. I stay away from it all. None of it is necessary to live.

[@peachierose3356]

13:30 i love that this soundtrack is included!

[@gregmiller9957]

Heated seats subscription in a BMW is completely optional. You can still purchase them as an option like any other car.

[@traviontrueheart4025]

Imagine paying to give your information away 😂

[@slimmann8253]

You give it away for free

[@Run1b]

@@slimmann8253I said this exact same thing reading that nonsense lmfao

[@80-80.]

No thanks. We bearly bothered to be on Instagram in the first place.

[@malakaithedemigod]

Whos we?

[@RamblingMcGregor]

It’s probably a channel for a collective of artists. Or a music label. Idk, I don’t use Instagram so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

[@Prince_Sidon]

David is the best person there. I will follow him to the ends of the Earth. I agree with everything he says and I will die on this hill. Also he's so cute !

[@georgeemerald4389]

I love how you're paying them a full Netflix subscription and still seeing ads.

[@--Paws--]

Almost like a placebo effect of subscribing vs the control who don't subscribe that don't see any significant changes.

[@Uchihawallstreet]

I think this is the best time to create another social media platform and make it free.

[@USELESSFACTSDAILYDAY]

I'm working on it now 👀

[@BEENIECRIS]

Right

[@JonathanAcinity]

So still no high quality photo uploads for photographers to show their work in the highest quality.... you know since that matters to photographers and certain businesses?

[@DJ-uo3mg]

Doesn’t this diminish the equal voice that the internet is based on? Verified posts will be boosted / be seen as more authentic.

[@Gabecolmc]

One small piece I think you are missing is that this is more so targeted at youth/young adults who want to become influencers. They feel like this $12 will be their investment into gaining reach.

[@FarooqAhmed-ze5ls]

Valid point

[@RayValdezPhotography]

That's if they can afford it. 15 a month is lot for next to nothing for them.

[@sinan8721]

As a responsible influencer these guys are ought to talk against this monopoly of capitalists

[@paddlefitdad]

Facebook ruined Instagram. I’m glad I left Facebook years ago and now I’m glad I left Instagram.

[@dennvenger]

What platform do you use now? Besides KZbin.

[@br5632]

I use WhatsApp a lot. I hope they leave it alone

[@nigelcoleman7666]

It's not unethical or wrong of these companies to offer paid services. Social media is not a necessity and has very little value for most people.

[@pretty.billy.]

It’s for people like me, who tattoo and use Instagram for it, you know how detrimental it’d be for me to lose my account? It’d wreck me financially

[@Sami_21]

Hot take: People's data is becoming easily available all over the internet. Supply of people's data is ever increasing at a rate much faster than demand. Therefore, price of people's data is dropping. Social media companies like Meta and Twitter are not only doing this to keep revenues now, but also to survive in the future where data of a person's cells may be the only thing not avaialable to the public.

[@joshuaherring1711]

I was along for the ride then the GIF argument lol, it erased by brain from anything else on this episode

[@ygt-cd3mg]

Zuckerberg: pay us $14.99 & give us your government issued ID so we can collect and sell more of your data. Instagram users: what a deal! Zuck: oh wow! Yes, you should be grateful! 😂

[@FlavioNoNavio]

Great, now I want a Kirkland Signature sweater too.

[@TheBloodyPopcorn]

I have KZbin premium. I dig it. Probably the paid streaming service/social media that I use the most. It’s not as good now that everybody does their own ads in their videos. But still much better than getting interrupted by KZbin every 5 minutes

[@Sinister_Joe]

Same. I don’t use Netflix and YT is my number one Plattform. So I rather put my money here.

[@juve_dc]

YOU GUYS SHOULD TALK ABOUT TWITCH vs CREATORS 50/50 SPLIT

[@TheLawnmowerLady]

It's bad enough being a female creator, dodging all the creepy stalkers, I surely don't need to upload my legal name/address to online services with a lousy track record of information breaches.

[@LukeSpine]

How long are these podcasts? This is a 20 minute “clip”

[@MatthewCoast]

I don't know why creators wouldn't want to pay... if you're a consumer, you probably don't care

[@mensahfrancis4216]

So what happens to accounts that are already organically verified? Are now going to pay for it and lose it if they don't pay, or they get to keep it.

[@beachstreet101]

They get to keep it. Nothing changes there.

[@NikDavis]

If no ads, control to notifications, and being able to turn off and on the feed. Then you'd have my attention meta

[@danielxmiller]

How about for $12 a month you also get rid of the ads? Makes no sense to pay for a service and STILL have to watch ads. How greedy can they get?

[@producedproductions]

Ads in Instagram aren’t nearly as intrusive as KZbin ads are though. KZbin premium id say is totally worth it.

[@DAVEXXL]

exactly, cuz KZbin adds take time and you can’t just skip it where as insta adds are just a tap skip. KZbin premium user since 3 years and it was totally worth it

[@producedproductions]

@@DAVEXXL time you just can’t get back man… so worth it.

[@3RDEYELOVE]

They know the time is coming when people gonna wake up like wait these platforms should be paying us... WE ARE THE REASON PEOPLE IS THERE. we working for FREE and they collecting HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in ad spending...👌🏾

[@nefariouscloud]

As an Artist/Business,if you cant pay the smallest overhead ever to start looking legitimate quicker,idk what to say.Its pay for your own shit or have a label do it for you and take half your money

[@KIZAJ]

It’s even more annoying cause I’m just genuinely trying to grow and because of this new update my engagement is trash

[@brandon2755]

The only reason I pay for KZbin premium is no ads. And the only reason I haven’t paid for any other social media, is because none of them completely remove ads. I feel like all social media is trying to become TikTok, not tumblr. With the ‘following’ and ‘for you’ pages.

[@brandon2755]

And I’m not doing the free ad block methods because it’s way too much effort to maintain or way too much to set up.

[@Winter-booty-Icicles]

Same I also use KZbin music

[@Neopumper666]

@@brandon2755 dude, its literally just adding an extension, and thats it. You don't have to do much

[@poker.4203]

@@Neopumper666 how do u get adblock on ipad?

[@TheLaurieJi]

​@@poker.4203 there are ad blockers for safari like adblock pro but you have to allow the app to see your navigation and saved passwords and other stuff for I don't know why. Shady. Gleam Lte doesn't have ads but it's not as well designed as KZbin. It does the job for long videos or if you want to play youtube in the background. I didn't dig too much on the thousands of adblocker available on appstore.

[@parshakamarsh]

Another subscription???? You've got to be kidding, I don't even use the free version 😂

[@DimaS-bw1cp]

So wait you pay monthly and still get ads? They didn't get the point of premium.

[@t1merickson]

Marques really paused for a half second to wonder of fish get government IDs, lmao

[@najati]

"I said it. Yeah I said it. On the podcast, I said it." Amen!

[@JLarky]

Broadcast feature sounds a lot like channels in telegram

[@TheWutangclan1995]

I see this as some form of social credit system and instagrams way of finding suckers to pay for it. It’s one thing if it’s a business and someone with actual fame to have it. The regular person with 1k followers paying for it is laughable.

[@TerraEmperor1]

It amazes me that none of them mentioned Myspace during that crab transition comparison

[@peppazfletcher]

18:57 it cracks me up with him saying it with a straight face LOL

[@NaturalPrimex]

Meta wants me to pay 14$ and I can't even flex my 8k NFT :?

[@denzelpeoples2223]

I needed those Vin Diesel pictures in my life

[@joshtobey9337]

Can you still get verified the traditional way ? even with tho it’s a new meta verified subscription?

[@bryceandrewmusicofficial]

I don’t understand what’s the difference between being verified on web vs ios. It’s still the same account. I don’t get it.

[@Ray_Vun]

it's not the place of verification, it's the place of purchase for verification. if you get the subscription through the app store, the app store takes a cut, so meta made the price on the app store higher so they'll still make the same money. if you get the subscription through the web, you're just going to the instagram site, so there's no cut being taken for someone else, and that's why it's lower

[@RoshanSingh-sz9cy]

I hope they start charging so i can easily focus on my life as I'm broke

[@enice617]

Paying cash AND still getting ads is crazy. I still pay for twitter blue but I might axe that.

[@cristibaluta]

They should verify everybody for free, mandatory.

[@6mazing]

Yup, vero does that

[@TimpossibleOne]

Isn't the point of having a VERIFIED account the fact that you're supposed to have your identity VERIFIED?

[@teejaynews]

so is meta worth even using anymore?

[@newjdm]

Ad free KZbin is SO worth it

[@DisizitStudios]

14:12 Marques said it right. I do not see a problem.

[@aijukashawn]

Why is Life so expensive ?

[@mikldude9376]

Because humans are stupid enough to participate in paying for BS like these fees in social media.

[@Speedy5310]

Thanks, now I'm listening to crab rave

[@christopherhumphrey]

Either you sell a subscription or you sell adds. That's American business. We call it capitalism!