Is the Vision Pro Worth it Now?

This week, we start off by discussing some of the better April Fool's jokes including our own Teslabot short and the Discord loot box fiasco. After that it's all about Apple. We talk about Apple trying to take over podcasts, bringing RCS to iPhone later this year, and an update that came to personas on the Apple Vision Pro. Lastly, we round it out by discussing the Xiaomi electric car before finishing up with trivia. Enjoy!
Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:03 April Fools Jokes
11:43 Apple Podcast Subscriptions Story
32:42 Google Podcasts is Dead
34:40 Trivia Question
36:01 Shopify (Sponsored)
37:10 Visible (Sponsored)
38:10 Google Leaks Apple's RCS Plans
39:53 Which Android Phone Will David Switch to?
53:08 Apple Vision Pro Update
01:08:28 Trivia Question
01:09:33 Netsuite (Sponsored)
01:10:43 1Password (Sponsored)
01:11:53 Xiaomi SU7 EV
01:26:09 Trivia Answers
01:32:42 Outro
Links:
SoKrispyMedia: bit.ly/4anqpjp
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Google Podcasts is Dead: bit.ly/4aHYlGW
KilledByGoogle: bit.ly/4aGWodV
Google Leaks Apple News: bit.ly/3xmg7kS
Cleo's Apple Vision Pro Video: bit.ly/4cN9mZu
Telescope's Xiaomi SU7 Video: bit.ly/49r8ZkC
Autofocus VinFast VF8 Review: bit.ly/49s5b2i
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[@tayjn]

I’d like a formal apology for making me look at that thumbnail

[@wedontexist369]

Who are you?

[@rockstar_tmt]

I am formally sorry that you exist

[@Atulyaaaaa]

With you😢

[@dv_interval42]

Bro who 💀​ @@rockstar_tmt

[@xero409]

I didn't even make the thumbnail and I'll apologize myself 😅

[@Starman-qj1wt]

32:33 "I THINK CHATGPT AND ONE GRAD STUDENT COULD FIGURE THIS OUT" is one of the best things that's ever been said on this podcast

[@nexusyang4832]

Needs to be on a t-shirt. 😂

[@JJohnson313]

I read this comments as they were saying it.

[@RoadUser_Motovlog]

it needs to be a new sound bite

[@waiitwhaat]

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE

[@CreaminFreeman]

Can’t tell you enough how much I appreciate you guys not wanting to alienate your podcast enjoyers. I’m comprised of 95% lazy and if it gets more difficult to find how to watch or if there’s a paywall, I just won’t. This is my favorite podcast, so thanks for that.

[@203null]

The Xiaomi SU7 actually started delivering already, not 7 months later

[@pttzty]

The queue length is 7 month

[@william2doo]

@@pttzty7 months before starting, saying in the podcast, so they did make a mistake

[@TheBismrk]

For Andrew's notification problem: Good Lock -> edge lighting+ -> prevents swipe down

[@Manganellia1]

@@samielfahsibsabsa Wait I should put it on detailed or I should put it on basic? Someone mentioned putting it on basic, but the issue isn't the actual notification, it's the accidentally swiping it into the popup app.

[@TheBismrk]

@@samielfahsibsabsa it doesn't require turning on any edge lighting stuff. The toggle is just in there

[@MiguelY22]

I think it's actually a different setting. Try settings > notifications > advanced settings > floating notifications and turn off smart pop up view

[@MiguelY22]

40:56 in the video for those reading this comment

[@Manganellia1]

@@MiguelY22 So that is actually just the pop up stuff like maps/YT and that's not it!

[@Autoblox0]

That picture in the thumbnail is gonna be in my nightmares too 🤣

[@streetcynic]

Marques giving David a personal Android phone review/recommendation is the MKBHD meta I live for

[@mikexia7711]

Xiaomi's cars are already been delivered with Founder Edition to its first 5000 owner😂Not after seven month😅

[@zy420806143]

exactly

[@doniscoming]

When You guys said 'ours was dope' regarding April fools - I was immediately playing the "CORRECT" sound cue in my head 😅

[@mayavril1]

I'm glad they knew to make it short. I enjoyed theirs so much more because of that compared to the Ltt one that I felt went on too long. I started to feel miserable at the effort it took must have taken

[@doniscoming]

@@mayavril1 Yeah but LTTs was insanely detailed and full of easter eggs - it was a full on april fools production :) MKBHD had a sweet, simple, clean one like they always do, but I appreciated effort from LTT 100% :)

[@peterzeller5736]

Adam with the Mug at 46:10. That's good marketing right there!

[@ghost_endy]

no offense but david’s persona in the thumbnail is definitely going to appear in my nightmares😓

[@DavidImel]

Bro it makes me 12 years old

[@ghost_endy]

@@DavidImel😭

[@KaleyDuke]

davids in the least creepy though

[@jayshukla7866]

The podcast story reminds me, you guys are the only podcasts that I consume over KZbin. Mainly due to the reason I came to WVFRM via the Studio, so I love to see Marques, Andrew, David, Elis and Adam. I like to see you guys react to stuff, not to mention tech news is something that almost always requires visuals. The other podcasts I hear are basically me listening to someone rant about a certain thing, like a certain trope in linguistics or how Ancient Aliens is wrong. I can do that over Spotify and Pocket Casts.

[@PrestoJacobson]

Pretty sure there are more ads in the podcast version, otherwise I’d listen on pocket casts more!

[@AitCollini]

All the guys working at The Studio must be the happiest employees ever ❤️

[@BreakawayB]

☕️ lol that Mug advertisement had me rolling 😂

[@JoJoEdits]

Adam advertising the mug while they are talking about ads. 👌😂

[@jyus5613]

1:20:41 Xiaomi is dubbed "best phone accessories dealer for iPhone users" in China, cuz many iPhone user use Xiaomi home control products for better localized user experience. So Xiaomi may think, "OK, let's do the same thing on car control."

[@mattjgraham]

Good afternoon people of the internet. Weekend in the UK, always starts with the waveform podcast! ❤

[@user-xv5ty7eb6x]

This must be the MKBHD video where the thumbnail got the most attention than the video itself!!!

[@SimplyMattis]

Spotify is basically doing the thing Marques suggested. Spotify has exclusive podcasts (not rss based) and they also have video podcasts (not rss based)

[@fabios5910]

And that sucks. There’s one podcast that I used to listen every now and then, and out of nowhere they annouced a “partnership” with Spotify. It’s not much, but they lost a fan, because I refuse to open Spotify just for that. In fact, I ended up deleting Spotify from my phone cause I’m salty.

[@sequeirasasha]

@@fabios5910 I went through the same thing a while ago. There was a podcast I enjoyed listening to on KZbin and would keep up with it every week, but then it became a Spotify exclusive and I did not follow it to that platform. I hate using Spotify for anything, let alone video.

[@MelissaAtwell]

51:18 : Remember that iPhone using iMessage ALSO sometimes fall back to SMS when the phone isn’t able to connect to the iMessage servers! Those messages automatically turn green. So the green bubbles DON’T mean it’s Android… the green means it’s SMS.

[@vmaidevm2598]

Just wanna say that the tablets on the back of the SU7 are not included in the car. They just made mounts for different tablets, including Xiaomi tablets and iPads. Also, there have already been some deliveries to early customers. All the specs are matched including the 0-60.

[@1024.]

你是哪里人😂

[@abdalla8558]

29:33 did someone just fart ? 😂

[@Daudran]

God I hope so

[@High_Exotic]

seems like it

[@pyrofestimo]

or probably a phone vibration on their table 📳

[@khalilchan2485]

@@pyrofestimoye probs

[@darkkforest]

I bet it is David. He seems more relax after that release.

[@skaterdude14b]

The productivity episode is top episodes of the year of any podcast for me. I’ve been listening on 0.75x in chunks to stretch it out

[@MaximoJoshua]

I have only ever watched on KZbin…you can pretty easily add chapters on KZbin, right?

[@topherjohnson9934]

I never would have started watching without KZbin suggesting waveform clips. I'd say 55% is worth it

[@mariokartfan8784]

The Thumbnail 💀

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

40:46 Did you guys fall asleep during the keynote for the S24 Ultra?? Corning Gorilla Glass Armor (which they worked on with Samsung) is the reason for the anti-reflective performance. NOT some coating.

[@Manorian]

Duolingos April fools joke not getting mentioned in the April fools section is criminal imo

[@skygaz3r]

This comment made me find that video and it made me howl with laughter! Thank you for sharing this!

[@Manorian]

@@skygaz3r Of, glad you liked it!

[@JoJoEdits]

oh my god, I just laughed so hard when Marques said "I think ChatGPT and one Grad student....." 🤣🤣🤣

[@zz6]

1:14:28 corrections: xiaomi SU7 is already delivered to customers in China a few days ago, and there is a lot people waiting for their cars to be delivered.

[@thebestdamager7400]

The BIG difference between videos and podcasts is the costs associated with delivering the media. KZbin takes a 55% cut, because probably half of that (maybe more, maybe less) goes into costs of delivering the video to viewers and their other features. With podcasts, they would have less then 10% of the cost of a video of equal length.

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

David is the voice of reason in these podcasts. I click for David on this podcast, just like I click for Jordan on the TeamCoco podcast.

[@leel13]

I love this show so much haha I love their chemistry and them trying to Segway to Apple Vision Pro

[@CuanZ]

The way the serif tv kept coming up felt like product placement lmao

[@deucedaprodeuca]

You can turn that PIP off in the settings. Go to notifications in your settings menu, then advanced settings, then "pop-up notifications" You can choose 3 options. Bubble, smart pop-up, and off.

[@brandonbeack2771]

Discussion on product placement [insert: MKBHD Mug promotion] 😂 so meta. Nice guys

[@Kel.Vision]

46:16 This made me laugh so hard I actually bought the mug. 😂

[@ole4983]

Marketing was so good that the mug is now sold out 😂

[@Kel.Vision]

@@ole4983 Lol, glad I got in early!

[@RyanProfessional]

WHO FARTED AT 29:34 😂😂😂

[@midnight_yota]

Somehow I missed this 😂😂

[@dylanlee5342]

I think it was david pressing air from his mouth cus he was doing thing with his lips

[@nithinaradhya5481]

I was half expecting the podcast to be completely in a Vision Pro facetime call

[@devorama1054]

I love the Ellis product placement of the Waveform mug. 😂

[@houdini9067]

I think the thing that most people don’t realize about spatial personas, is that this is literally the closest thing to physical teleportation that we’ve ever had. The scans will become better, the “beta” note will disappear, whole bodies will be rendered your space. The fact that we’re able to experience the very inception of this technology is quite inspiring.

[@Mik92922]

It’s so refreshing that the quick break is not an ad

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I LOVE the pop-up apps in Samsung. Swiping down on the notifications to open the app without interrupting what you're doing is so great

[@nadamuchu]

46:00 thank you for reminding me how much I really want one of those mugs.

[@rubenmoreno407]

Ah man, I just finished working out, now I'm ginna have to wait on watching this 😭

[@Someone-kj3sk]

April 1st prank: my school announcements said that since we had had too many snow days the seniors would have to come back 2 days after they normally would.

[@jose1]

Two benefits from KZbin music is I can watch your video podcasts from there and listen in the background and they sync with main KZbin so later I can watch in the tv because it's the same video and it's all in youtube.

[@furn2313]

23:52 This😂

[@cheskafayatola]

You got me there at the end, Andrew 😂

[@mayankmodi9289]

25:35 Andrew just won a million hearts here. Even though I can't afford to sponsor anyone today, I will, for sure, do it the moment I earn minimum wage.

[@Arsalan_2210]

Thumbnail giving me the chills bruh. Funniest one yet!

[@heyfonzo]

Welcome back to another episode of the WVFRM ... How I know it's going to be a good Friday

[@WalterGZ]

I love when somehow Andrew’s mom is mentioned in the pods hahaha

[@romeDCfc]

27:30 David continued the segue 😁

[@robertcaseydavis]

On April Fools Day product launches: Lucas Botkin at TREX ARMS posted a sidecar for their line of holsters, to put a suppressor in. It's a meme-ably stupid idea for most people, but they made a few for ppl who want it on the range or whatever.

[@MylesKillis]

…………. I saw that the 2nd and thought it was serious

[@TheTipsyTurner]

Yo, this podcast so lit its causing eathquakes! Great way to start my Friday!

[@ChrisKerel]

Did you guys invent the adjective "adly"? I love it. also I am super impressed at how you guys manage to make the conversation seem so smooth while still nailing these amazing transitions that just seamlessly changes the topic with the listeners barely realising it and nobody skipping a beat. You guys should make some kind of podcast masterclass detailing all the scripting, editing and ofcourse raw unadulterated talent that goes into these kind of mind-blowing masterpieces of conversation. I'm not saying that the average lay man could attempt to or even understand how you guys make this possible, but it would be a cool piece by the absolute masters of the genre showing how it's done. (I'm sorry for this comment, I really am. I also don't wanna delete it)

[@marcusburger1523]

With vision pro avatars i think if you have the head and hands you could just put them on off the shelf fullbody avatars. The ones we have in Videogames are honestly more than good enough.

[@MehulSathyanarayan]

The Xiaomi SU7 is a testament and direct statement to Apple that Apple is not the godfather of everything that people used to believe it to be. Apple didn’t even manage to make a mockup but here is Xiaomi already starting production for almost 80,000+ pre-orders

[@svgerd]

david's sabotaging of the segues was too entertaining - i expect more in future episodes

[@garrettord]

“me and adam are part of an ancient prophecy” -ellis *adam nods in agreement*

[@danycardenas1614]

How do I get you off my feed?!?! You fall asleep with KZbin on and now this podcast just never stops playing!

[@morphx666]

The LockPickingLawyer has some great April's Fools videos and this year's is one of his best

[@darknesswithin0]

44:21 Marques, man! That's so relatable!!!

[@Alex-vp4ky]

46:13 love the shot 😂😂

[@antwainski]

The way marques pulled that uno reverse card on ‘em at 23:54 is wild

[@sparkplugbarrens]

Concerning the mod April fools joke: it would be really cool if you could charge the keaboard via the logo, similar to the angry miao charger.

[@StelmachsWorld]

That thumbnail feels like a fever dream

[@alexjamesbilodeau]

I just tried the Vision Pro. a 30 minute demo was all I needed to experience it. Right now there is no content. If you have 2 people with a vision, the ability to share spatial experiences is amazing. However, I still recommend buying 7 Quest 3's and passing them out to friends and family vs 1 Vision Pro.

[@oliverchalfant7923]

yup... and honestly by the time this is mainstream relevant Quest Pro 2/LG with CODEC avatar and Seamless Translator is going to have us in Star Trek territory at half the price. lack of VR is really going to limit AVP spatial experiences too.

[@MDPATEL45]

Waveform for breakfast!!!

[@akilanindia]

The Voltswagen rebrand prank is the best example of testing things on April 1st. And they didn't even announce it on April 1st. It gets me even today, when I think about it.

[@kuzonio]

1:12:55 - The last two categories of product (Watch & Vision Pro) that Apple introduced have no visible logos on the outside of the product when they are in use but their design is so distinctive that it’s easy to tell the difference between their own & other products that just happen to fit within the same category.

[@WashMe14]

As someone living in California, that was my favorite intro by far

[@tonywith2e]

FYI: Vingroup is first and foremost, a real estate company lol, they have hundreds of appartment building and most of the big malls in Vietnam are also Vingroup's - Vincom. They also own the 2nd tallest building in South East Asia - Landmark 81. The CEO of Vingroup is the richest person in Vietnam. Vinuni is the most expensive university in Vietnam with the average tuition of like 35k usd a year. Vinfast started out as an electric bike company and is still selling bikes nowaday, the brand then branched out to making gas cars, and now electric cars!

[@skygaz3r]

Electric cars! Wow I did NOT know that,thank you for sharing!

[@heyfrancis3332]

Waveform Friyays🎉🎉 🔥🔥🔥🔥 been waiting patiently this morning

[@shubhamthakur8530]

Wait doesn't KZbin takes 45% only, they pay the creators 55%. Did they changed it recently or Marques got it switched?

[@edwindungdung1998]

Just in time, as I sit back and relax.

[@lilgohan]

I love how everybody thought they were prepared for Marques to pitch KZbin as a podcast platform and then no one was ready when he delved into it

[@bluedinnerbox1370]

Not only you can attach iPad on the back of su7, xiaomi also states that CarPlay(and potentially AirPlay) will be available via software update later

[@AdoreHorror]

youtube is my podcast client these days

[@talklein39]

Love you guys, Cant wait for the healing rain

[@omarabiakar-Taylors-Version]

1:24:43 Marques roasting the VF8…… I cant breath😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nicholas-s-timelines]

I feel like the entire section talking about product placement and Samsung, particular the tv is a product placement itself. Now I feel like I got to look up this tv. 😂

[@hahachuu]

second trivia question, Marques forgot what he was answering and wrote vinschool - that vingroup subsidiary exists as well XD

[@Batmancontingencyplans]

47:31 this is an awesome experiment the public will watch it 10/10 and MKBHD Experiment will be etched in history ebooks!

[@MrBarneyDinosaur]

33:53 I see that 30 Rock reference, Ellis. 👀

[@quincyadeiza]

I look forward to you guys reviewing BYD products

[@GuyWhoCooks]

Vision Pro is indeed more of a developer's product more than the consumers. And Apple knew it from the start.

[@falconmcleod-shabogesic790]

I think an amazing april fools joke would be to have David speak into Marques’s mic but have Marques voice dubbed over what ever David says XD

[@fostertomer4630]

Thank you Adam and Ellis for saving us all with your brave sacrifice to share a microphone

[@Doumstyle]

About Andrew's ick at the end, "going down there when they are north of the position" makes sense if altitude-wise they are higher than their destination! Maybe Andrew can get comfort in that and cross it off his "I hate list"!? 😅

[@KyleJones_TN]

I love it when Marques says "What if..." 22:06 I think we both share the Genius of Invention (if you're familiar with The 6 Types of Working Genius). I see it all the time in the podcast.

[@TySchmidt]

Marques, if you're reading this we need an entire video on Goodlock, Wonderland, Theme Park, Sound Assistant, LockStar, etc. If Samsung phones have S tier personalisation, the next closest would be like B or C tier. Like it's not even close. More people should know about it.

[@dudedavid522]

Oh, it's Friday. Good to know

[@jodensmith5093]

Loved the pod as usual boys. I’ve noticed you guys are getting very Linus tech tips on Apple lately, what’s up with that 😂

[@Anna-vesper]

this is pretty much the only podcast I listen/watch

[@khaled5245]

Any reason why WVFRM isn't available in video format on Apple podcast ?

[@dobo1044]

I had to replay Marques's response "So what did you do this week. I updated google flights. What's the f*** that?" at least 10 times 🤣😂

[@jaypandya913]

these segways are becoming more and more enjoyable 😂😂

[@laistyle]

This episode is the first time ever I got the right answer for a trivia question. I’m Vin-amese btw 🤣

[@RichardJActon]

Another feature in the podcasting 2.0 spec is a value tag where you can put a bitcoin lightning address. There are a bunch of podcast apps that support sending donations in bitcoin to the podcast, including a 'streaming' feature where you send X sats per minute listened. You can even do 'splits' with multiple wallet address for different people and the get a percentage of the sats sent to that entry in the feed, e.g. X percent for your editor, X percent for the hosting platform, X percent for any music creator's stuff you used etc.