Is the Vision Pro Worth it Now?

[@tayjn]

I’d like a formal apology for making me look at that thumbnail

[@wedontexist369]

Who are you?

[@rockstar_tmt]

I am formally sorry that you exist

[@Atulyaaaaa]

With you😢

[@dv_interval42]

Bro who 💀​ @@rockstar_tmt

[@xero409]

I didn't even make the thumbnail and I'll apologize myself 😅

[@Starman-qj1wt]

32:33 "I THINK CHATGPT AND ONE GRAD STUDENT COULD FIGURE THIS OUT" is one of the best things that's ever been said on this podcast

[@nexusyang4832]

Needs to be on a t-shirt. 😂

[@JJohnson313]

I read this comments as they were saying it.

[@RoadUser_Motovlog]

it needs to be a new sound bite

[@waiitwhaat]

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE

[@CreaminFreeman]

Can’t tell you enough how much I appreciate you guys not wanting to alienate your podcast enjoyers. I’m comprised of 95% lazy and if it gets more difficult to find how to watch or if there’s a paywall, I just won’t. This is my favorite podcast, so thanks for that.

[@203null]

The Xiaomi SU7 actually started delivering already, not 7 months later

[@pttzty]

The queue length is 7 month

[@william2doo]

@@pttzty7 months before starting, saying in the podcast, so they did make a mistake

[@TheBismrk]

For Andrew's notification problem: Good Lock -> edge lighting+ -> prevents swipe down

[@Manganellia1]

@@samielfahsibsabsa Wait I should put it on detailed or I should put it on basic? Someone mentioned putting it on basic, but the issue isn't the actual notification, it's the accidentally swiping it into the popup app.

[@TheBismrk]

@@samielfahsibsabsa it doesn't require turning on any edge lighting stuff. The toggle is just in there

[@MiguelY22]

I think it's actually a different setting. Try settings > notifications > advanced settings > floating notifications and turn off smart pop up view

[@MiguelY22]

40:56 in the video for those reading this comment

[@Manganellia1]

@@MiguelY22 So that is actually just the pop up stuff like maps/YT and that's not it!

[@streetcynic]

Marques giving David a personal Android phone review/recommendation is the MKBHD meta I live for

[@Autoblox0]

That picture in the thumbnail is gonna be in my nightmares too 🤣

[@mikexia7711]

Xiaomi's cars are already been delivered with Founder Edition to its first 5000 owner😂Not after seven month😅

[@zy420806143]

exactly

[@jayshukla7866]

The podcast story reminds me, you guys are the only podcasts that I consume over KZbin. Mainly due to the reason I came to WVFRM via the Studio, so I love to see Marques, Andrew, David, Elis and Adam. I like to see you guys react to stuff, not to mention tech news is something that almost always requires visuals. The other podcasts I hear are basically me listening to someone rant about a certain thing, like a certain trope in linguistics or how Ancient Aliens is wrong. I can do that over Spotify and Pocket Casts.

[@PrestoJacobson]

Pretty sure there are more ads in the podcast version, otherwise I’d listen on pocket casts more!

[@ghost_endy]

no offense but david’s persona in the thumbnail is definitely going to appear in my nightmares😓

[@DavidImel]

Bro it makes me 12 years old

[@ghost_endy]

@@DavidImel😭

[@KaleyDuke]

davids in the least creepy though

[@doniscoming]

When You guys said 'ours was dope' regarding April fools - I was immediately playing the "CORRECT" sound cue in my head 😅

[@mayavril1]

I'm glad they knew to make it short. I enjoyed theirs so much more because of that compared to the Ltt one that I felt went on too long. I started to feel miserable at the effort it took must have taken

[@doniscoming]

@@mayavril1 Yeah but LTTs was insanely detailed and full of easter eggs - it was a full on april fools production :) MKBHD had a sweet, simple, clean one like they always do, but I appreciated effort from LTT 100% :)

[@AitCollini]

All the guys working at The Studio must be the happiest employees ever ❤️

[@peterzeller5736]

Adam with the Mug at 46:10. That's good marketing right there!

[@ninjanerdstudent6937]

David is the voice of reason in these podcasts. I click for David on this podcast, just like I click for Jordan on the TeamCoco podcast.

[@skaterdude14b]

The productivity episode is top episodes of the year of any podcast for me. I’ve been listening on 0.75x in chunks to stretch it out

[@MaximoJoshua]

I have only ever watched on KZbin…you can pretty easily add chapters on KZbin, right?

[@jyus5613]

1:20:41 Xiaomi is dubbed "best phone accessories dealer for iPhone users" in China, cuz many iPhone user use Xiaomi home control products for better localized user experience. So Xiaomi may think, "OK, let's do the same thing on car control."

[@topherjohnson9934]

I never would have started watching without KZbin suggesting waveform clips. I'd say 55% is worth it

[@mattjgraham]

Good afternoon people of the internet. Weekend in the UK, always starts with the waveform podcast! ❤

[@MelissaAtwell]

51:18 : Remember that iPhone using iMessage ALSO sometimes fall back to SMS when the phone isn’t able to connect to the iMessage servers! Those messages automatically turn green. So the green bubbles DON’T mean it’s Android… the green means it’s SMS.

[@zz6]

1:14:28 corrections: xiaomi SU7 is already delivered to customers in China a few days ago, and there is a lot people waiting for their cars to be delivered.

[@vmaidevm2598]

Just wanna say that the tablets on the back of the SU7 are not included in the car. They just made mounts for different tablets, including Xiaomi tablets and iPads. Also, there have already been some deliveries to early customers. All the specs are matched including the 0-60.

[@1024.]

你是哪里人😂

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

40:46 Did you guys fall asleep during the keynote for the S24 Ultra?? Corning Gorilla Glass Armor (which they worked on with Samsung) is the reason for the anti-reflective performance. NOT some coating.

[@SimplyMattis]

Spotify is basically doing the thing Marques suggested. Spotify has exclusive podcasts (not rss based) and they also have video podcasts (not rss based)

[@fabios5910]

And that sucks. There’s one podcast that I used to listen every now and then, and out of nowhere they annouced a “partnership” with Spotify. It’s not much, but they lost a fan, because I refuse to open Spotify just for that. In fact, I ended up deleting Spotify from my phone cause I’m salty.

[@sequeirasasha]

@@fabios5910 I went through the same thing a while ago. There was a podcast I enjoyed listening to on KZbin and would keep up with it every week, but then it became a Spotify exclusive and I did not follow it to that platform. I hate using Spotify for anything, let alone video.

[@JoJoEdits]

Adam advertising the mug while they are talking about ads. 👌😂

[@YUSUF-t2h6i]

This must be the MKBHD video where the thumbnail got the most attention than the video itself!!!

[@thebestdamager7400]

The BIG difference between videos and podcasts is the costs associated with delivering the media. KZbin takes a 55% cut, because probably half of that (maybe more, maybe less) goes into costs of delivering the video to viewers and their other features. With podcasts, they would have less then 10% of the cost of a video of equal length.

[@BreakawayB]

☕️ lol that Mug advertisement had me rolling 😂

[@leel13]

I love this show so much haha I love their chemistry and them trying to Segway to Apple Vision Pro

[@deucedaprodeuca]

You can turn that PIP off in the settings. Go to notifications in your settings menu, then advanced settings, then "pop-up notifications" You can choose 3 options. Bubble, smart pop-up, and off.

[@JoJoEdits]

oh my god, I just laughed so hard when Marques said "I think ChatGPT and one Grad student....." 🤣🤣🤣

[@brandonbeack2771]

Discussion on product placement [insert: MKBHD Mug promotion] 😂 so meta. Nice guys

[@mayankmodi9289]

25:35 Andrew just won a million hearts here. Even though I can't afford to sponsor anyone today, I will, for sure, do it the moment I earn minimum wage.

[@houdini9067]

I think the thing that most people don’t realize about spatial personas, is that this is literally the closest thing to physical teleportation that we’ve ever had. The scans will become better, the “beta” note will disappear, whole bodies will be rendered your space. The fact that we’re able to experience the very inception of this technology is quite inspiring.

[@CuanZ]

The way the serif tv kept coming up felt like product placement lmao

[@nithin_aaradhya]

I was half expecting the podcast to be completely in a Vision Pro facetime call

[@mariokartfan8784]

The Thumbnail 💀

[@Manorian]

Duolingos April fools joke not getting mentioned in the April fools section is criminal imo

[@skygaz3r]

This comment made me find that video and it made me howl with laughter! Thank you for sharing this!

[@Manorian]

@@skygaz3r Of, glad you liked it!

[@abdalla8558]

29:33 did someone just fart ? 😂

[@Daudran]

God I hope so

[@High_Exotic]

seems like it

[@pyrofestimo]

or probably a phone vibration on their table 📳

[@khalilchan2485]

@@pyrofestimoye probs

[@darkkforest]

I bet it is David. He seems more relax after that release.

[@Kel.Vision]

46:16 This made me laugh so hard I actually bought the mug. 😂

[@oliverkuehle]

Marketing was so good that the mug is now sold out 😂

[@Kel.Vision]

@@oliverkuehle Lol, glad I got in early!

[@jose1]

Two benefits from KZbin music is I can watch your video podcasts from there and listen in the background and they sync with main KZbin so later I can watch in the tv because it's the same video and it's all in youtube.

[@Mik92922]

It’s so refreshing that the quick break is not an ad

[@Someone-kj3sk]

April 1st prank: my school announcements said that since we had had too many snow days the seniors would have to come back 2 days after they normally would.

[@svgerd]

david's sabotaging of the segues was too entertaining - i expect more in future episodes

[@marcusburger1523]

With vision pro avatars i think if you have the head and hands you could just put them on off the shelf fullbody avatars. The ones we have in Videogames are honestly more than good enough.

[@danycardenas1614]

How do I get you off my feed?!?! You fall asleep with KZbin on and now this podcast just never stops playing!

[@devorama1054]

I love the Ellis product placement of the Waveform mug. 😂

[@lilgohan]

I love how everybody thought they were prepared for Marques to pitch KZbin as a podcast platform and then no one was ready when he delved into it

[@MehulSathyanarayan]

The Xiaomi SU7 is a testament and direct statement to Apple that Apple is not the godfather of everything that people used to believe it to be. Apple didn’t even manage to make a mockup but here is Xiaomi already starting production for almost 80,000+ pre-orders

[@shubhamthakur8530]

Wait doesn't KZbin takes 45% only, they pay the creators 55%. Did they changed it recently or Marques got it switched?

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I LOVE the pop-up apps in Samsung. Swiping down on the notifications to open the app without interrupting what you're doing is so great

[@alexjamesbilodeau]

I just tried the Vision Pro. a 30 minute demo was all I needed to experience it. Right now there is no content. If you have 2 people with a vision, the ability to share spatial experiences is amazing. However, I still recommend buying 7 Quest 3's and passing them out to friends and family vs 1 Vision Pro.

[@oliverchalfant7923]

yup... and honestly by the time this is mainstream relevant Quest Pro 2/LG with CODEC avatar and Seamless Translator is going to have us in Star Trek territory at half the price. lack of VR is really going to limit AVP spatial experiences too.

[@fostertomer4630]

Thank you Adam and Ellis for saving us all with your brave sacrifice to share a microphone

[@rubenmoreno407]

Ah man, I just finished working out, now I'm ginna have to wait on watching this 😭

[@WalterGZ]

I love when somehow Andrew’s mom is mentioned in the pods hahaha

[@heyfonzo]

Welcome back to another episode of the WVFRM ... How I know it's going to be a good Friday

[@tonywith2e]

FYI: Vingroup is first and foremost, a real estate company lol, they have hundreds of appartment building and most of the big malls in Vietnam are also Vingroup's - Vincom. They also own the 2nd tallest building in South East Asia - Landmark 81. The CEO of Vingroup is the richest person in Vietnam. Vinuni is the most expensive university in Vietnam with the average tuition of like 35k usd a year. Vinfast started out as an electric bike company and is still selling bikes nowaday, the brand then branched out to making gas cars, and now electric cars!

[@skygaz3r]

Electric cars! Wow I did NOT know that,thank you for sharing!

[@akilanindia]

The Voltswagen rebrand prank is the best example of testing things on April 1st. And they didn't even announce it on April 1st. It gets me even today, when I think about it.

[@robertcaseydavis]

On April Fools Day product launches: Lucas Botkin at TREX ARMS posted a sidecar for their line of holsters, to put a suppressor in. It's a meme-ably stupid idea for most people, but they made a few for ppl who want it on the range or whatever.

[@MylesKillis]

…………. I saw that the 2nd and thought it was serious

[@iamsheep]

The SU7 has already been delivered to thousands of people already and there are numerous Chinese videos of influencers either getting theirs or tech review sites making videos with people who got them.

[@TheTipsyTurner]

Yo, this podcast so lit its causing eathquakes! Great way to start my Friday!

[@TySchmidt]

Marques, if you're reading this we need an entire video on Goodlock, Wonderland, Theme Park, Sound Assistant, LockStar, etc. If Samsung phones have S tier personalisation, the next closest would be like B or C tier. Like it's not even close. More people should know about it.

[@AdoreHorror]

youtube is my podcast client these days

[@nadamuchu]

46:00 thank you for reminding me how much I really want one of those mugs.

[@KyleJones_TN]

I love it when Marques says "What if..." 22:06 I think we both share the Genius of Invention (if you're familiar with The 6 Types of Working Genius). I see it all the time in the podcast.

[@Arsalan_2210]

Thumbnail giving me the chills bruh. Funniest one yet!

[@JEMCinema]

understand that it’s not exactly their overlap - but smiling friends prob had the best April fools reveal

[@antwainski]

The way marques pulled that uno reverse card on ‘em at 23:54 is wild

[@sparkplugbarrens]

Concerning the mod April fools joke: it would be really cool if you could charge the keaboard via the logo, similar to the angry miao charger.

[@colsonrivers]

Lockpicking Lawyer's April Fool's Content is priceless Also, Jeff Babbitt's announcement to leave the Empire for the Boston Glory didn't seem real, especially being announced on April 1st.

[@romeDCfc]

27:30 David continued the segue 😁

[@stevecastle1730]

I bet Spotify doesn't want chapters because they don't want it to be easy to jump around, or listen to just specific parts. They probably think it will reduce over all listening time. They probably want to promote just passively listening to the whole thing like the radio.

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@ChrisKerel]

Did you guys invent the adjective "adly"? I love it. also I am super impressed at how you guys manage to make the conversation seem so smooth while still nailing these amazing transitions that just seamlessly changes the topic with the listeners barely realising it and nobody skipping a beat. You guys should make some kind of podcast masterclass detailing all the scripting, editing and ofcourse raw unadulterated talent that goes into these kind of mind-blowing masterpieces of conversation. I'm not saying that the average lay man could attempt to or even understand how you guys make this possible, but it would be a cool piece by the absolute masters of the genre showing how it's done. (I'm sorry for this comment, I really am. I also don't wanna delete it)

[@midnight_yota]

I’ve been using pocket casts for years. I’ve tried switching to Apple Podcasts or even google podcasts but the extra features pocket casts offers are almost non-negotiable. This podcast I listen on KZbin cause of KZbin premium and less ads.

[@kuzonio]

1:12:55 - The last two categories of product (Watch & Vision Pro) that Apple introduced have no visible logos on the outside of the product when they are in use but their design is so distinctive that it’s easy to tell the difference between their own & other products that just happen to fit within the same category.

[@RyanProfessional]

WHO FARTED AT 29:34 😂😂😂

[@midnight_yota]

Somehow I missed this 😂😂

[@dylanlee5342]

I think it was david pressing air from his mouth cus he was doing thing with his lips

[@garrettord]

“me and adam are part of an ancient prophecy” -ellis *adam nods in agreement*

[@WashMe14]

As someone living in California, that was my favorite intro by far

[@IanZainea1990]

Yes, make a podcast app. As for discoverability. You could run the podcast episodes through an voice-recognition program to trascribe each episode, and then feed that transcription into an MLM or something to "learn" what that episode was about. The a.i. writes a quick summary, or pick 20 keywords or something, and then deletes the rest of the transcript, and then it stores the summary/keywords in a database that then you have your search/discover algorithm sift through. ***(not a computer scientist)

[@hahachuu]

second trivia question, Marques forgot what he was answering and wrote vinschool - that vingroup subsidiary exists as well XD

[@sixium]

To stop the "App PIP" from notifications that Andrew and Marques are experiencing, go to Settings > Notifications > Notifications pop-up style > "Detailed". This will make notifications work like non-One UI phones.

[@Doumstyle]

About Andrew's ick at the end, "going down there when they are north of the position" makes sense if altitude-wise they are higher than their destination! Maybe Andrew can get comfort in that and cross it off his "I hate list"!? 😅

[@morphx666]

The LockPickingLawyer has some great April's Fools videos and this year's is one of his best

[@BernardCrosiar]

This was actually a really good episode i really liked it you all should make more similiar to apple stuff because i really actually like its its really good, another thing i love your team and everything you all do it is amazing honestly you all are doing such a amazing job its literally amazing kuddos to you all for all the editing and the tiring work that may stress you all sometimes but at the end it is always worth it love you all

[@ppj845]

I believe SU7 is already delivering. 7 months is the lead time if you submit the order at the time of reporting

[@lexer_]

Small correction about the discord april fools joke. Hiding the lootbox popup didn't stop the from playing the looping video. It just hid the but it kept playing. So every running discord client had this video on loop the entire time.

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

The setting he was looking for is in Settings> Advanced Features> Multi Window> Swipe for pop up view

[@bluedinnerbox1370]

Not only you can attach iPad on the back of su7, xiaomi also states that CarPlay(and potentially AirPlay) will be available via software update later

[@Ic3Arena]

Sounds like you guys need to do a special (interview) episode with the Podcast 2.0 guys. The new (open) spec allows for a lot of the things you guys spoke about and the next gen podcast apps allow you to stream Satoshi's (Bitcoin) to the wallet of the podcast owner and much more.

[@katsg18]

You got me there at the end, Andrew 😂

[@necrojoe]

40:30 For me, it's 100% the stylus. Since my Note 5 and getting used to using it, I've been ruined for phones without a stylus.

[@lilmichael212]

1:04:00 I’m SO glad he brought up the importance of telepresence! I think everyone just enjoys making fun of AVP and they’re missing A LOT of really important things about what’s happening here.

[@MrBarneyDinosaur]

33:53 I see that 30 Rock reference, Ellis. 👀

[@0x_brandon]

Marquez so centrist you can’t pin him down on ANY anti-monopoly or anti-big tech sentiment lol

[@mayavril1]

I love that about him. He's taught me to pause in quickly judging change, new things etc in this era of social media peer pressure

[@GuyWhoCooks]

Vision Pro is indeed more of a developer's product more than the consumers. And Apple knew it from the start.

[@dobo1044]

I had to replay Marques's response "So what did you do this week. I updated google flights. What's the f*** that?" at least 10 times 🤣😂

[@StelmachsWorld]

That thumbnail feels like a fever dream

[@Mooooooof]

Feel like the hype for the Vision Pro went very quickly.

[@jaimeduncan6167]

Yep, it had no future. Google will not allow it to succeed. Google controls KZbin and with that most of the tech influencers. Marques never say that Google takes 45% of the ad revenue. He also "mislead" that Patreon is free, its between 8% to 12% plus fees for transaction processing, payout feeds, currency conversions etc. Patreon is still better because you have some hours with a coach and Jack Conte is an actual creative not a money-making machine like Apple, but it's clear Marques is just omitting information to get at Apple.

[@laowan]

I think the hosts confused the "estimated delivery date if you lock the order now" with "delivery starting at date" for Su7. Su7 has already started delivery on April 3rd (Founders Edition), thus the clam that the standard version delivers sooner is not correct, the estimated delivery of the Max version takes more time just because it's a rather popular choice.

[@mouadbroos]

The discord app is using a framework called Electron (first introduced by Amazon Atom) which is basically a chromium core running a JavaScript web app on top. So that’s why embedding a video is just like having a chrome tab open with the KZbin video pre-programmed to loop. (I’ve been watching a lot of WVFRM and you guys would definitely benefit from a software engineer POV on a lot of these topics 🤣)