We're on Ozempic - Episode 9

[@PrettyBadSleeper]

Perfect timing boys I was just prescribed a menial task this would spruce up and accompany perfectly

[@omegabash]

I love how you structured this sentence

[@bigstepper4125]

Samesies

[@rileytuthill950]

Sorry I gotta comment again. I love when they disagree because they both have such good points and it helps the audience critically think about issues. They’re not afraid to have different opinions when I feel like most podcast hosts just agree because it’s easier

[@The96th]

why are you sorry?

[@darkunicornblood5140]

You are very right, don’t be sorry! I love how they can disagree in such a intelligent and respectful way too

[@mattH3ew]

Ben and email are what they are and the transparency of their unique solid characters and friendship is part of the content. It’s just unfair that guys from the New Jersey coastline are more cultured and perfect, but Ben Cahn is the rare Californian exception.

[@SethBowers-lc8cg]

wrong, should be sorry. one comment, everyone knows the rules @@darkunicornblood5140

[@asstrid_]

having enrichment time by listening to this alone in my room cracking jokes and replying out loud like i'm part of the conversation

[@Strawberry_Poptartt]

Real

[@bobdjt]

Thank you Ben & Emil for solving Obesity

[@TioMogi]

Finally, someone had to do it!

[@ethanhasenoehrl915]

Emil looks like he just got off a shift of selling used cars in central Jersey.

[@emilderosa]

highest compliment

[@leedswest4777]

Now that Ben is rocking the stache and with Emil's long flowing locks, I need to see a Miami Vice 80s style photoshoot of Ben and Emil.

[@kathwinnnnnn]

I'm a pharmacist and also a long time fan of y'all! I religiously listen to you guys to get in touch with current events outside of medicine, so its so interesting to hear you guys discuss what goes on in my world. Because of the increasing popularity of GLP1 agonists, patients who really rely on these meds to maintain their diabetes don't have access to them bc of drug shortages.

[@mfotino]

emil discovering bode as his villian origin story is hilarious

[@emilderosa]

i was not dicked down i was big dicked. there is a difference !

[@Muhluri]

Lol

[@michelle2742]

Whoever edits and puts the pictures give them a raise!! Love it

[@matt.stevick]

Agreed. In test episode 2 Ben’s “future son” pictures were so random and quick; I loved it.

[@samspam1788]

I'm in recovery from anorexia and I already feel guilty for almost everything I eat... I wonder how much this is going to get abused by people with EDs? It's a bit scary to think about

[@silverschae2579]

It's one shirt! How much could it cost. $200? Great episode, funny as always and informative as sometimes

[@kelsey5093]

I want to plug the Maintenance Phase podcast for anyone that wants to learn more about diet culture, obesity, weight loss, etc. It’s an impartial and HIGHLY researched show that sort of debunks the idea of “the obesity epidemic.” As a fat person, it helped me a lot. That’s all!!

[@Shotsshotsshotz]

Yes!! 100000x co-sign. The ep on the French Diet is so good. Busting the myth that all Europeans are naturally skinny and exist in societies without fat people, or fat phobia and its resulting EDs, was so enlightening(and honestly a little reliving). Given that, the EUs approval/denial of the semaglutide drugs will come with its own social/political biases.

[@metalsalsa]

Yessss I was going to say the same thing about this. The "Is being fat bad for you episode?" REALLY opened my mind about this stuff. Michael Hobbes is a hell of a researcher.

[@metalsalsa]

The stuff about how at each health institution (WHO internationally then NIH in America) arbitrarily changed the ranges of BMI so that more people would be considered obese, there were professionals at each institution who said it was a bad idea. And yet, the institutions did it any way.

[@EmmaDenend]

!!!! hobbes and gordon fans rise up!

[@Shotsshotsshotz]

@@metalsalsaabsolutely enraged me. And when you learn about how many of modern medicine’s accepted ideas about how one’s quality of health is linked to their amount of body fat - thin bodies are healthier, and the pursuit of health inherently meaning losing body fat - have their roots in eugenics???

[@DonxxSollozzo]

We need a dedicated After Hours episode about "Emil's Big Dicked Down Adventures".

[@oplasmidx8288]

Yooooo we don’t use those 2 words round here

[@DonxxSollozzo]

@@oplasmidx8288 Big dicked? My bad, homie.

[@dadxdude69]

What’s an After Hours?

[@DonxxSollozzo]

@@dadxdude69 A lost relic of another time.

[@Weyesbloodfans2006]

if your shirt is $1000 i’m stealing something out of your house

[@emilderosa]

tough but fair

[@sleepy-peepy]

The line for what exactly is “obese” or “overweight” is ever subjective and changing. BMI is known to be unreliable because of how it doesn’t apply to so many different body types. The first I ever heard of people using the diabetes-version of the medicine to lose weight was when it was getting popular in Hollywood because wealthy people were using it to go from being average sized to being noticeably thin. I would never ever expect a weightloss drug to be prescribed responsibly.

[@100percentfeelings3]

the pay pigs are at it again just when i was missing ben's demented takes and emil's soothing radio voice

[@tehyakim]

ben says otherwise to the soothing radio voice lmfao

[@scoochv]

For episode 10 can we have a re-introduction of the boys for the new viewers? So we don’t have to give views to that other show

[@meese4432]

I don’t even remember the name of that other show

[@massivelegend7599]

​@@meese4432there was another show? I must have forgotten all about it!

[@Chilam.]

​@@meese4432I think it rimed with billionaire bicep but I'm not sure

[@Chorspool]

This is a great idea. I want my friend to watch but he doesn’t know anything about these two and they didn’t do a proper introduction for PayPigs. They kind’ve just picked up where they left off

[@jewelaleshire]

The editing is top tier boys, keep it up 🫡

[@SpitFir3Tornado]

The thing Ben was reading about Eli lily being in rural Indiana isn't about their employees staying at work for long hours but rather that their employee retention is tremendous because there isn't anywhere near them where someone could switch jobs without uprooting their entire life and moving across the country. Their attrition rate last year was 10%, average is 18%, and just when googling those randomly read also that replacing a specialized Healthcare professional typically costs twice their yearly salary too.

[@joecon601]

I just noticed one of your reels on IG went really viral. Congrats guys! Really looking forward to seeing this community grow even more.

[@videoman564]

that zoom in of Emil just moving the chocolates and back at 41:48 got me I don't know why

[@Ram-zc4fi]

“treat and reduce obesity” but no, dont solve the sedentary transport infastructure that makes people have to go to the gym to get movement in, rather than getting healthy movement by walking, biking, taking trains, etc

[@Pear_Trees]

its seeing a fire and creating a complex system of irrigation on the fly to put it out instead of using the fire hydrant in the corner. What's needed is a cultural change, not a medicine that reduces bone density.

[@JoelNJohnson]

Good takes, Emil. Love your rants, you're always on point.

[@jen9726]

Very excited to be able to leave a comment on my favourite podcast because I love leaving comments and I love this podcast. I will be thinking about this Ozempic and Big Pharma situation as it continues to evolve, thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions. Emil is a very passionate speaker and we love to hear what he has to say. Once again, I love commenting and I love this podcast.

[@benandemilshow]

hahahaha thank you jen!

[@haleigh11]

my two favorite goombahs are back with another hit

[@MajorHuggles]

I hope after Ben gets diarrhea we get another episode of him getting acupuncture to cure that diarrhea.

[@KookaTrooper]

Coming from Google podcasts just to say that I live for this shit. Hearing about Emil getting railed when asking about a shirt makes my commute to work enjoyable. Bless the paypigs

[@sebastianpinger1092]

Less car centric infrastructure has a very large impact on health and obesity that people don’t really realize. Plenty of countries in Europe people just walk more. I think regulating food is also part of it but the best thing for health is regular activity.

[@Matt-fv7xb]

I sound pretty smart sharing this info with my friends, thanks boys 😎

[@Luke.Molloy]

I feel like the intro video is going to be really cool when it's finished

[@edenviii2638]

It is an uniquely American issue in that the food production and manufacturing industry is lobbied to hell, making sure there's as little regulations and as low standard as possible, un-walkable cities and towns, reliance on automobile, a culture of over working and then over indulgence to compensate, preventative measures are often overlooked, etc Then, you've got the body positivity movement, which on the one hand completely makes sense in terms of humanising fat people and fighting toxic diet culture etc, but on the other hand it is also essentially a cultural reaction against a government and a system that not only aren't interested in protecting its people, but thrive off of their subjugation, so when you go into the far end of this you have celebrated over-eating and obesity.

[@jddurazo2400]

Intro 11 minutes in is crazy but I love how y’all just flow in conversation easily

[@abby2575]

Me, listening to the pod as I finish up work for the day at my office in rural Indiana: 😳

[@micmaxian]

I nobody talking about the beautiful table they shoot at. Man that radial pattern grain and stain look 🔥 Great addition to the set, which of course is not Emil's apartment. He has a beautiful wife, kids, dog and pool in a much nicer house!

[@abiomer415]

"Sounds like wahlid" 55:36 😭

[@amberaq129]

I started on Ozempic cuz I am 45, diabetic, obese, and I have a chronic pain condition with a starring cast member of a back injury that healed wrong. My Dr wanted me to have gastric bypass when my son was 3, 10 years ago. After the class I was required to take beforehand, I chickened out. I'd much rather take my chances with these drugs (lost 40lbs so far, become much more mobile, eating way healthier, AND my a1c is 5.7) than having a major surgery that could easily kill me.

[@8643steelersfan]

appreciate the i think you should leave reference during the shirt story @ 8:19

[@GraceanneParks]

I'm cautious like Emil about Ozempic. I recently asked my internist about it out of curiosity and while she listed a lot of the benefits the muscle mass loss came up as well. She said that's why when people who don't have a regular workout regime (specifically weight-bearing exercise) stop taking Ozempic they sometimes gain even MORE weight back because a lot of it is that muscle returning. I don't know if the majority of people taking it for weight loss are also preserving that muscle while on it

[@jimmykulaga6569]

yess another episode of my favorite podcast :) i like to listen while i ride my bike

[@alexlopes3930]

I always like the video even before i press play. that's how big of a pay pig i am.

[@emilderosa]

oink oink baby

[@alexlopes3930]

@@emilderosa i'm going to print this interaction and frame it

[@tidedetergent4382]

You guys legitimately make my day!

[@Tenjayy]

Mr Beets 😭😭

[@gabrieller4260]

the camera quality is great and ben please never shave the stache you genuinely look really good

[@sydneyhuggins8835]

Man I love hanging out with my boys

[@scoochv]

Dillon gang rise up

[@Dillonjames32]

this is huge for me

[@daniellong6907]

Emil forcing himself in to a Curb Your Enthusiasm situation 😂😂

[@issacswood1679]

dude production goin up

[@varunvemuganti]

I’ve been working at the ad agency that runs Novo Nordisk’s digital media for like the last year. and I feel like I learned more about their business from your segment than I have from working with them directly lol

[@anything_but_this]

Emile you've never sounded more like Jerry Seinfeld than 8:34 in this episode

[@Fake_Brian]

every thumbnail this channel produces is fine art

[@nicoleosaurus13]

Insane intro. We love it.

[@bubbaplayzz8046]

Cant help but let out a tear of joy every time they upload

[@goonster1216]

I love the random imagery that only slightly pertains to what they're talking about that pops on screen

[@matt.stevick]

The intro song makes me feel a certain way that I can’t understand or explain. Love it.

[@boydbanda1805]

Favorite podcast at the moment. Love my parents Benjamin and Emilia

[@maczafarana8989]

I put this episode on for my dog while I went to happy hour. He didn’t have any comment on it 🤔

[@harrychallis3125]

at 0:17 that is the tower bridge, not the London bridge

[@garfieldiloveyou]

how did you know my dad got prescribed ozempic…

[@Tessal0es]

my art history teacher once said that you have one active eye and one more lazy and that a great artist portrays that detail but its never left my brain i see it every time now on my pictures

[@peterbaillif4607]

6:20 is such a Larry David moment from Emil

[@caseynorton128]

One of the side effects for a lot of anti depression medication is suicidal thoughts. Yet millions of people take them every day. 99% of the time the good out weighs the bad.

[@samspam1788]

I guess it depends on the prevalence and severity of the side effects which we don't know yet

[@taylorrosew]

Exactly. The extreme side effects of GLP-1s are really outliers. There are medications with much more severe side effects that people spend their whole lives on. People just have an opinion on these meds because they don't think fat people should be able to lose weight with "help."

[@hyjenks7155]

Ben looks like he just woke up right before the episode. He's my spirit animal.

[@keegdiv9429]

As someone from Indiana, I’m just happy we got half of a shoutout lol

[@mattd2026]

this podcast so good

[@benandemilshow]

hell yeah thank you!

[@nsquezada27]

Anyone who's ever had dietary restrictions for health reasons in the US that pertain to sugar know how insanely insanely hard it is to consume zero to even low amounts. It is truly in everything. Most healthier eaters I know are equally frustrated at how sweet and salty everything is here. It's just very diificult to avoid. You either get all or none. Nothing exist in moderation on our shelves

[@Pear_Trees]

I got diagnosed with hypertension at 22. It was the wake up call I needed and I got my shit together. I also ran into the same issue as you where everything is full of salt. Its why I decided to up my skills in the kitchen and cook almost every meal now.

[@Jvdg3m3nt]

we're so back baby!!!!!!!!

[@ethanstone9152]

ben and emil back at it again

[@michaelrogers897]

As far as the weight loss drug, if this drug slows digestion and your body is suppose to use the digestive process to pull energy from the food, it would seem like there would be clear issues with any of the byproducts of the food they consume if it's slowing down your digestion to 18 + hours.

[@austincrain4919]

Think about it this way, cardiovascular risk will decrease because those who take it will be consuming less cholesterol & saturated fat by eating less food. But your body also needs fuel for muscle & proper function. And as a nurse in the cardiovascular icu, I see people who have cardiac disease eat plenty of foods that are unhealthy and irritating to the body.

[@connor_anthony]

I come for the sillyness but I stay for the serious and nuanced discussions. Get you a pod that can do both 🥵

[@benandemilshow]

thank you so much!

[@rileytuthill950]

Best podcast of all time. The best voices, the best chemistry, so much better than those other guys, I don’t remember their name for some reason what’s their name again? Doesn’t matter, this is the best one

[@tswizzle4eva578]

Kind of suspicious that last episode Ben said he wanted Dianne Feinstein to fall down some stairs and now she has…..

[@bendyarms]

Love you boys. The theme song however I do not love lol maybe I'll feel different once you have an opening sequence for it, but it just feels long and muddied which is weird cause it's only 30 seconds. Also, I personally don't think you need to make another popping intro sequence just because your last "show that will not be named" had one. I would even cut this song down to a 5-10 sting and just have your logo animate in. Almost like Broad City style title intro, just get right into it. Just some food for thought I love your show!

[@nicholasaukan2755]

On good speakers tho, kind of slaps In a chill way🫰

[@emstein]

another solid ep on our hands guys!

[@cooper1507]

36:32 Emil's smile of him dying inside.

[@al1111]

so late to the game but the subplot of the guy trying to get over his smoking and gambling addiction in the edit is cracking me up

[@avery6529]

What is the style of music that the theme song is? Jazz electronic?

[@calebxw4487]

Pardon my take and pay pigs, my two favorite pods! Never thought I’d hear big cat mentioned on this show 😂

[@benandemilshow]

well LOOKY HERE, we got some CROSSOVER

[@ayveeay5614]

Eli Lilly is headquartered in Indianapolis lol. Not quite rural but when compared to the other biotech/pharma hubs it makes sense

[@Sam_0141]

The photo inserts are killing me man

[@colin-halter]

Guys, I'm not ready to watch this yet. Can you reupload it in like 2 hours?

[@emilderosa]

yes sir just for you

[@lilyi]

It’ll be interesting to see what the effects of longterm GLP-1 RA use will be, considering the incidence of medullary thyroid cancer in rodents and incidentally in a human patient (thus the black box warning). I also worry about the frenzy around “weight loss at any cost” in the US, especially with the American Academy of Pediatrics saying doctors can offer weight loss drugs to kids as young as 12 that are diagnosed as obese and bariatric surgery for kids as young as 13. That people equate lower body weight with health just really grinds my gears.

[@allisonb8912]

I may or may not have previously worked for a law firm that defended Eli Lilly from class action law suits on their diabetes drugs... it was truly a soul sucking job, but it helped pay for law school and now I work in public service sooo... that cancels out, right?

[@liza8143]

thanks boys

[@Cantrel8]

Great ep boys!

[@gamb]

great episode AS ALWAYS. you got me considering buying the bonus episodes

[@maya-mu3ce]

do it do it do it

[@donald8378]

all the cool kids are doing it

[@weewoo9386]

Intro song makes me think of Magnum P.I for some reason. I like it!

[@coliver106]

the editing is popping off

[@makslargu5799]

Nice one boys, baiting the British into thinking you don’t know the difference between London Bridge and Tower bridge.

[@benroth4029]

Is the credit card website still coming, I dont remember if there was an update about it

[@katherinethegreat22]

Shout out to y’alls editor ❤

[@philipmothersole4167]

Perfect end go my day. Thanks boys.

[@riglowkun]

Ben is starting to look like a dad the more i look at him frfr

[@enchantedcats]

Wow a three day return policy is insane!! I thought the 14 days naked wolfe offers was bad. Now I just have the spice boots collecting dust in my closet 🙂

[@tianamasso54]

Great ep

[@Whittaz85]

Great episode guys. Good to see you getting back into the finance/market stuff!

[@benandemilshow]

thank you! we appreciate you tuning in!

[@b.jaeggi]

0:17 that’s not london bridge 😭 that’s tower bridge

[@benandemilshow]

SHIT

[@oaklandstreet]

changing the thumbnail to a worse one is what got me to click onto the video

[@benandemilshow]

Wtf we thought this was better :(

[@oaklandstreet]

@@benandemilshow it looks like I'm the only one who's said anything about it so maybe it's just me. personally the two headshots being cropped differently is slightly weird (one of them not being a little deer-in-the-headlightsy as well) and the background is hard to decipher with so much being covered besides "fat profits". in my completely unsolicited opinion, just as someone who's a fan of the show, it might look better as a combination of this one and the previous thumbnail. the background of the previous one was just more eye catching and fit in with the previous episodes more, this one feels a little empty and maybe just crop a *little* less of emil's shoulders out. again, it looks like I'm the only one who has said anything about not liking it so it is totally possible that it's just me being dumb. I've been watching since the first episode of the previous show that I can't seem to remember the name of and have enjoyed every episode since, including this one, the new thumbnail is the only thing that has felt off about the episode

[@oaorio]

Love you guys