PC Fan Bearings - Sleeve vs Ball vs Others as Fast As Possible

Ball bearings, sleeve bearings, and other fan bearings! Not sure what the difference is? Well, now you know!
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[@shlokbhalmey9951]

I have my engineering paper tommorow and was going through yt in search of comparison between ball and sleeve bearing and i never ever expected to be taught by Linus himself. Taught very good, would learn again.

[@tonton9598]

CUDA cores as fast as possible

[@ragedashboard6374]

Please linus

[@Jacques80120]

Yes. good idea

[@m.balauszko]

yess!

[@BloodHound72S]

Do it linus

[@EvilWiffles]

Yes Linus, talk about CUDA cores m8.

[@OHIOspikey]

4:17 Sewing machine oil works great for this. I kept a GPU fan alive for about 2 years with it. Sometimes you need to drill a small hole under the sticker, but its worth it if the fan is noisy and hasn't frozen.

[@battery443]

Linus just said "eh?" at the end of a sentence. My life is complete. He's gone full Canadian mode.

[@brovid-19]

You haven't seen lumber jack linus' yet, this isn't even his final form. Dude hasn't even summoned his army of tech beavers but just you wait, eh?

[@christopherstein2024]

I just watched some videos of fan maintenance and really didn't expect this gold mine of data to appear in my recommendations after that. I had no idea there was so sofisticated information available to the outsider. Praise the tech geek!

[@Omnighpotent]

I have disabled Adblock on KZbin, only because I want to support YOU, and the amazing things you do for all of us. Thanks a lot Linus!

[@techquickie]

:)

[@Omnighpotent]

DamageIncM If they're over 20-30 seconds, there will always be a skip after 5 sec button :)

[@Omnighpotent]

DamageIncM I have never seen a 10-minute video that cannot be skipped. And if such an ad appears, you can always reload and get a normal one.

[@Omnighpotent]

DamageIncM Never experienced that.

[@MrEeeaddict]

+Techquickie Linus sucks, he's one of the greediest and unappreciative youtubers. The only reason I still watch is dennis and the other guys can't be pretty funny!

[@hockeylost]

Hey thanks guys for the great episode, and man i have been so impressed with terrins work with the team, well done mate!

[@ylliastergames659]

It's great to see that no matter what my tech question, you're still the first person that comes up Linus. Thanks for years of tech information :D

[@H-77]

So regarding sleeve bearing reliability, I just replaced a pair of Sunon sleeve bearing fans that were powered on 24/7 365 since 1998. The amplifier was decommissioned in early 2015, and I've been using it intermittently since. In other words, about 149,000 power on hours.

[@eplugplay8409]

were they mounted vertically or horizontally?

[@Spartins321]

Linus wrong description.

[@atotmix]

I knew there would be a comment about it! LOL

[@elendilion]

LinusWrongTips

[@MohammedHasanTHEYUGIOHMASTER]

no its not these things are computer hardware des. is totally legit bro

[@movingheadmau8128]

maybe he has done it on purpose in order to see, who really looks into the description :)

[@Mr.Morden]

I'm from 2020 and Linus sounds like a teenager.

[@oscar_bru8455]

he talcc fast

[@xxChrisWilsonxx]

So glad I found this channel. So many things I did not know about computers but do now all thanks to Techquickie. Choosing a certain type of fan for reasons other than its looks is something that never would have occurred to me.

[@cgollimusic]

Linus.. you're just. The most helpful dude on KZbin, I swear. If I ever met you I would have to buy you a beer.

[@dgurevich1]

I like using Enermax fans. Their advantage is modular construction. You can disassemble your fan! Allowing access to the electric motor and the bearing from both sides. Also a very convenient way to clean it.

[@BenWillock]

Very interesting, this was one of my blind spots. Thanks Linus.

[@itsdeonlol]

Great video Linus, I learned so much today.

[@PoisionDragon]

Thank you for doing this video, I intend to look at many of your other videos. I am working on a custom pc build (geared towards extreme performance and low maintenance) and wanted to know the longest lifespan fan types.

[@heynando]

shoot, this is one of if not the best video of techquickie, for real!

[@SamwiseLee]

Linus, do you ever make videos that aren't informative or interesting like.. EVER? Every single one of your videos, there's something to take away from it. Great channel for tech enthusiasts of any level.

[@ELECTROHOUSEMADE]

Thank you for the tip on the lube behind the sticker!! I have alot of fans and this will come in handy :)

[@brandonmckibben1164]

Great video, I was wondering the differences myself not too long ago.

[@GregRuffino]

I love my Noctua fans,, thank you Linus for recommending them for my H100i . love them

[@Silmerano]

Where have these videos been all my life? I love this shit.

[@venturestar]

Incredible the difference between Linus 2014 and Linus 2021, Linus Media Group is more professional now but without losing the sense of humor.

[@MrYoursoup]

Wait? Was that... Was that a sponsor that actually had anything to do with the video? And actually having a good segway to boot? WOW!

[@BenDover-qi3qm]

yeah we didn't have to hear about his minty smelling butt this time

[@MrYoursoup]

***** Segway is more fun *drives away on his two-weeled engine of epic*

[@Moejoe647]

Funniest thing about this is that linus actually mentioned a kind of bearing that is only used by a direct competitor to the sponsor - namely noctua. Go brown fan master race!

[@hammy434]

the noctua fans look disgusting.

[@ZoruaZorroark]

disgusting, but at least one of the better ones, of course see it as how you wish

[@AB-zw5xx]

What a frenetic way of communicating.

[@MirceaBv]

Good lesson. Now I learned that most of the fans on the market have sleave or improved version types of bearing.

[@LK-zt9vf]

Short sharp and to the point, that's what I like Linus! Great video thanks :)

[@MrSpazbomb]

Love this video so much, thank you!

[@1adog1]

I remembered something about not being able to place certain fans in a certain orientation. Thank you for saving me from buying a really crapping fan!

[@islandOUCHchris]

Now all you need to do is a video on PWM

[@xboxlive6]

watch?v=YmPziPfaByw It's a bit technical, but it at least explains it in video form.

[@FraeschD]

especially vs regular 3 pin

[@GunnerJoe93]

You mean Pulse Width Modulation?

[@Dpaq13]

I've been looking for one of these videos linus! Thanks! However, "point contact" does not 'reduce friction'. Friction is determined by the weight of one object on another and doesn't matter wether that weight is spread over 1 cm^2 or 5 cm^2. The "point contact" will put more stress on said "point" because it has to deliver the total friction over a smaller area. You can think of this like sliding across a slip-n-slide. First, slide on your chest/stomach. Fun, right? Now try sliding with your elbow/forearm holding up your upper body. In both cases you will slide just as far (as long as you didn't go to McD's in between runs), but your elbow will probably hurt a lot more than your chest after you stop sliding. This is because the total friction force has to act on a smaller area and this is what is happening inside the ball-bearing.

[@sander373]

Linus you troll. Fans for non demanding environments Puts an Apple computer picture

[@AirsoftPwnage1]

Another great video Linus, but I've got a bit of constructive criticism. Maybe explain exactly what bearings do within fans, and where they are located in a bit more depth. More pictures of the anatomy of the fans would be super helpful, and a bit more information on pricing between the different types of fans would also be great. LMG Forever

[@AirsoftPwnage1]

Oh, and the video description seems to be for the wrong video.

[@android175]

I agree, but this is a FaP video so he is trying to shorten a lot. It would probably be better if he did this in an "Explained" video.

[@CombuskenKid]

Noctua

[@psycho0815]

If you run your fan 24/7 every day of the year you will end up with 87600 hours. I have my Cooler Master cpu fan running for about 4 years now. I run my PC 8-16 hours a day and it's still working as on day one.I had a few other (cheap)fans in that timeframe in other PC's and all of them failed. Nice job Cooler Master. :-)

[@psycho0815]

You are not?

[@Seaking177]

this has the same description as the server vs desktop hardware video :D!

[@doctorpc1531]

You should sometime start a series "As *Fact* As Possible". That could possibly cover some speculations about future products&tech :)

[@andrefranco6814]

Linus, you could make a video about the relation between Speed and bandwidth, I would appreciate! :) Great video, as usual, thank you!

[@Ma8tthew]

Yay! Fun and informative. Thanks!

[@SoulDragonWithFlow]

Good episode! Btw, please could you do one on audio connectors (mic in out, line in/out, optical, usb etc), and another (or same episode) on impedance. No one seems to know the advantages of either of these topics and I'm getting bored explaining it.

[@tpcs8667]

Cooler Master, thanks for sponsoring Tech quickie and Linus Media Group ( LMG)

[@Hexmail787]

Nice video description

[@jevc900423]

Is funny how the acronym of as fast as possible (AFAP) describes perfectly how my mind feels every time i watch these videos. Always A-FAP learning some new stuff U . U.

[@DNYDrum]

I use 2 Sunon magnetic levitated fan, no sleeve contact with bearing, for my CPU and case. I also use 1 AVC hydro-bearing fan, locked and pressurized oil between shaft and bearing, never dry out, and don't need add oil, for HDD cooling. 3 fan in my tower no sound at all, very quite.

[@MisterGutsy108]

Could you make a video about positive vs. negative pressure in PCs? I'm curious about your opinion and what are the pros/cons of both options.

[@Ammi6543]

As far as I can see negative pressure has no pros. With positive, you get less dust intake through unfiltered openings, you reduce the chance of exhausted air being sucked back in and the air density is higher (although very minimally) which in theory will increase its thermal capacity.

[@CombuskenKid]

Well if you have water cooling. Then you want you CPU fan in a pull setup which usually involves having your fan blowing out anyway.

[@Ammi6543]

You can have a pull intake.

[@CombuskenKid]

Yeah. I was thinking that might not work as well. But now that I think about it I don't think it would matter :p

[@MisterGutsy108]

***** I've just noticed linus usually uses negative pressure on his builds (2 front intakes, 3 exhaust fans on the top and back). This setup seems to be the most popular from what I've seen. I'm curious what the reason is for this choice.

[@TiagoSerodio360]

Hi Linus, could you please do a video on Haswell Ready PSUs and c6/7 sleep states? Thanks for the awesome videos. Keep it up.

[@willknox1987]

OMG LINUS! YOU HURT MY BRAIN!!

[@BaseCu327]

Linus said Eh in a super Canadian accent, we can all go home now guys, we've gotten what we've wanted for years.

[@Redhawk8812]

Hey Linus, can you do a video on positive versus negative airflow in PC's and their benefits?

[@levelup1279]

General rule: air in = air out.

[@chell6022]

Hi mom.

[@SCARSAC]

smart video thanks linus

[@u1richh]

I just found an old ass NZXT Rifle Bearing fan. Still works quietly after sitting for 5 years (guessing).

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

awesome video

[@renarszeberinszebers6259]

4:40 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT MONSTROSITY

[@EagleH2OfallPro]

check the description ;)

[@hi333dog]

would you please do an episode on tv's vs monitors? austin evans "Top 5 Gaming Life Hacks!" reminded me of some differences that my father told me, but i still don't know much.

[@CaptainShiny5000]

I would argue that sleeve bearings in graphics card coolers are actually a reason for a PSA. If mounted horizontally the lifespan is reduced drastically and also they are known to produce rattling noises on higher RPMs which also often occurs on graphics cards. Also you can't just switch out a GPU cooler that easy anymore these days since most models are non reference and therefore it's not as easy to find a proper 3rd party cooler and even if you do - those are most likely much more expensive and bulkier than they used to be due to the higher temps they have to disperse. So if you have a GPU with a sleeve bearing which starts to rattle you're pretty much boned - and Sleeve bearings in GPUs are still quite common, so that sucks.

[@atlas8827]

What is PSA?

[@CaptainShiny5000]

***** Public Service Announcement. A warning basically.

[@tmar23]

Actually horizontal mounting doesn't "drastically" reduce their lifespan. Vertical mounting because of gravity causes wear mostly on most contacted point (the lowest point) of the very soft brass. Horizontally with the natural magnetic centering of motors limits shaft bearing contact (in a perfectly balanced world). Rattling is common with sleeve bearings because you can't have as tight tolerances as say ball bearings.

[@NINJ4ST34K987]

CUSTOM WATERCOOLING LOOP MASTER RACE! Us friends at /r/watercooling would like a word ;) It really does solve all those legitimate problems you brought up. But damn if it isn't expensive. Haha in all seriousness, you can grab something like an H60 and a G10 bracket from NZXT for around $100 and have yourself and awesome performing GPU that is capable of some serious overclocking, as well as being much quieter and cooler. Hence the increased overclocking capability. Those aftermarket air coolers are kind of a joke when you can go the CLC and G10 route in my opinion. It makes a lot more sense.

[@CaptainShiny5000]

NINJ4ST34K987 100$ is still very expensive. I mean in the old days up the Geforce 9000 series I'd say, you could just grab some aftermarket cooler for 30$ and that performed always better than with the thing which was build on it. This makes it a pretty big deal these days if a GPU cooler craps out.

[@fogdood6868]

I'm a proud owner of my Corsair TX650M. It was a little more expensive than a CS650M, but it's got a dual ball bearing fan with higher quality components.

[@Sammy.U]

Linus I just had an idea. Could you do a Techquickie or AFAP episode on what the internet is? Like, where it comes from, what it actually is, how it works etc?

[@boycomehere99]

Now I understand ... Thanks So Much Much

[@phoenixfromtheashes]

Could you guys do an as fast as possible episode on Cameras and Lenses And what makes a good camera and Lens? (Specifically DSLR cameras)

[@jrosen15]

omfg thank you so much for this!

[@Juurus]

Handsome haircut! :D

[@F4H33M97]

Whenever I lower my speed of my cooler master sickle flows ... It makes like a ticking sound or like a buzzing sound, it happens to all my fans connected to my FAn controller (aerocool fx6t)

[@gabrielcalamaro]

good content!!! Thank you!

[@vitamindick3]

Ok thanks guys! :D

[@billyrowe0064]

My ProLiant Server has been on for 2,000 days and the fans are still spinning at a nice average of 8,000RPM. You should hear them at startup. Wow! It is enough to blow the top cover off of the server... literally. I started the top one up and I went upstairs to see that it blew the top metal (heavy 10 pounds) off and hit the motherboard so it had shorted the power.

[@JohnPaulBuce]

im your number one fan

[@vitamindick3]

Linus, do an episode about v-sync about gaming

[@CBass2016]

He's explained before in about 10 seconds

[@rambi1072]

v-sync makes your frame rate run at the same rate that your monitor refreshes. So, if you have a 60 hertz monitor and v-sync enabled your fps will be 60 which is all that is necessary.

[@rambi1072]

Well, it will be 60 fps assuming you have that potential of course.

[@CBass2016]

But you can still have screen tearing

[@krist0sh]

Oh Linus I can't BEAR with you talking about this.

[@pesterenan]

Linus, the description is from the last video. ^^

[@Trylen]

"Canadians as fast as possible" so many bad jokes and a lot of debunking for "Muricans"

[@CBass2016]

No

[@mr_sn4k3s]

I think your comment. ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) Is a very bad joke. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[@dumass00072]

More pics please. A picture is worth a thousand words.

[@AlvinGuoSubscribe]

+Techquickie how about mag-lev bearings?

[@19971997gt]

Yeah I was gonna ask lol. They are not new tech. I'm sure that goes hundreds of years back. But in2014 I'm not sure anyone actually produced them. I assume cost of manufacturing.

[@White_Night_Demon]

wat dat?

[@dorgodorato]

Your voice annoys the hell out of me, but your videos are so good that it is a decent trade-off. Keep it going man!

[@JorgeAVideoTech]

So are SSO fans the same as the magnetic fans? If not are magnetic fans better?

[@chengduFTW]

Linus what sort of screwdriver do you use?!?? It's looks very convenient to twist the center but without having to turn the whole screwdriver

[@abc140290]

ratchet screwdriver

[@diePod1]

You mean this guy? buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=634146&group_ID=675083&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

[@chengduFTW]

Thanks!

[@crackpotfox]

His is a snap on.

[@markusjackson4830]

So for a person like me starting out with computers should i go with sleeve or ball bearing fans in my comouter

[@lvnd98_]

Hey Linus, What is 'Cache' Also if possible explain what is l3 cache and core in cpu layout

[@Sander7897]

What about UFB bearings from phanteks, bought some fans from them and mounted them in the top of my case (question is: can this bearing type handle horizontal mounting?)

[@tirplex9920]

hey can you cover video setting in games please as I don't know what half of them do and if I am using the right ones for a smooth and high quality experience thank it would really help a lot

[@runt0r]

scythe sleeve bearing fans last forever! I got few SY1225SL12VBL still same noise after 6 years

[@dickcheney6]

I have a Cooler Master CPU cooler. It is very quiet, darn near silent if it's not maxed out. Heck, it's not even that loud at max speed! And before you ask, yes it is quite effective at cooling.

[@DukenukemX]

When I clean my fans i use 3in1 oil to lubricate them. Does a good job reviving fans and making them quiet.

[@thomasrossi1612]

So what fans are great for horizontal mount (without bearing noise and for long duration)? Only Dual Ball Bearing, Noctua's SSO Bearing and Fluid Dynamic Bearing? Are Arctic P12, Noctua NF-P12 Redux, Noctua NF-S12 Redux, Fractal Venturi HP-12, BeQuiet Pure Wings, Scythe Kaze Flex, Noiseblocker BlackSilentFan XLP PWM good for top case horizontal mount?

[@juandefs]

that ninja noctua placement..

[@LeonYuL]

description is from the previous one...

[@jaivonjenkins2164]

I have a sleeve bearing in my minimally used workstation and it failed a month after getting it..

[@Alexandra-Rex]

@Metallus Ambroglosch You can always see it again and pause it.

[@elenneth]

How about a video that explains the difference between IPS and TN panels?

[@SE09uk]

Ball bearing thats all you need over the last 15 years ive seen none ball bearing fans being sold and promoted the ONLY reason they want you to buy them is they can sell more fans to you because a 2x ball bearing fan can last 15+ years running 24/7 a sleeve can fail after a few weeks and instead of oiling it most users would buy a new one

[@monsterinyourclauset]

If I'm a first time builder do need to concern myself with seperate fans, or can I just settle for the ones that come with the case for now?

[@canalpan9]

thank you

[@fenixcristal]

você poderia fazer um comparativo de pasta térmica de alta performance tanto no processador e na GPU , Gelid Extreme vs Arctic Silver 5

[@crazygrunt1000]

Is it possible for a fan to be leaking lubrication? I have apevia twilight rgb fans and they are leaking a small amount of fluid.

[@buicktothemoon]

Hi, was wondering if you could tell me what type of ball bearing fan is on the RTX FE AVC cooling fans? AVC Model DAPC0815B2UP004 L32-C-000913? it says ball bearing on the fan, but I can't find out if its single or not. Thanks

[@smellyfilly9430]

QUESTION: What does VSync do and does it affect gameplay? THANK YOU AND PLEASE ANSWER!

[@ShiroKage009]

Linus, can you review the Phobya NB e-Loop fans?

[@zulrayg]

Linus, I've been wondering about Phanteks' fans, they say they use a UFB (Updraft Floating Bearing/Balance) and the only thing I can find on that is FrostyTech saying its basically a sleeve bearing in disguise but without any details to back up that statement. What are UFB really?

[@denniswastaken]

I have two old Enermax fans which have a different design than outlined here. They don't use a bearing at all but just use the magnetic force. Not a good explanation, but either way this design makes it possible to remove the fan blade for cleaning and to just put it back. Haven't seen it on other fans, care to shed some light on this?