PDX LISTENED TO YOU & EASTERN EUROPE Got Reworked ALREADY in EU5

[@LudietHistoria]

Here's the anatolian reword next - kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIG7oomwp9yUaZI

[@LeowulfOfMercia]

Ah, yes, reword.

[@riachuelo4340]

Eastern Europe getting reworked several times feels lore accurate.

[@alexandrub8786]

Many canon events happened there.

[@benbricio8407]

Especially when they’re really just dividing up Slavic cultures

[@LauftFafa]

they still have to fix kyiv or kiev or whatever that area wasnt unified , the city itself was destroyed and the remaining land was frangmented under control of what is known of the kievan princes who did use the Russian way of naming based on their own documents that can be found easily and clearly show Kiev written . Kyiv also should be Kyevu , its the correct Ruthenian term used in the period by Ruthenians . the fact they are using Kyiv expose some modern day bias that break immersion

[@leoskiii5860]

Lmaoooo

[@DiaGall]

@@leoskiii5860 Meanwhile my Warmia is rather Prussian 👀

[@ceoofpoland5388]

As a totally legitimate worker of the Polish goverment I would like to thank you for speaking the absolute facts about Polish greater culture being the superior one in Europe.

[@LudietHistoria]

Yes bro anytime polska gurom

[@peterfeuerbach5231]

as a german i have to respectfully disagree

[@browl218]

As a polish person I honestly don't know what the hell is greater and lesser polish culture

[@korgalis]

@@browl218 the most common polish regional identities, lesser poland is centred on krakow and greater poland is centred on poznan, with love another polish person

[@Andikl1]

​@@browl218Cultues in EU are a way to depict group of people living in a land and speaking some dialect of a language, often with 'no historical data to be sure'. In this instance they follow most common way to depict Polish language of that time - pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialekty_języka_polskiego. I think there were no real culture difference at the time, maybe some local folklore of the tribes from those lands pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plemiona_polskie.

[@cammyshill3099]

For historical context, Greater Poles are the ones who made The Witcher 3, while Lesser Poles are the ones who made Cyberpunk 2077. Hope that helped.

[@Drecksdusler]

Best comment so far

[@moderate9867]

cyberpunk 2077 > witcher 🐙🐙🐙🐙🐙

[@ericsaxon5736]

LOL

[@ПетрВрангель-т8п]

Good one))) Btw, so they explicitly made Greater and Lesser Poland, just as there were Great and Little Greece and the like in history, but the concept of Great Russia and Little Russia is still hopelessly incomprehensible to grasp for them lmao?😂

[@ericsaxon5736]

@@ПетрВрангель-т8п There is no Greater or Lesser Poland in the Polish language, ignorant Russian scrub. It is Małopolska and Wielkopolska and it has nothing to do with being Greater or Lesser (as in better vs worse.) The correct translation is Small Poland and Big Poland but it sounds weird in English so English cartographers changed it to Greater and Lesser. The words are a reference to their size. Ukraine is not Lesser Russia or Small Russia, they are Ukraine and want nothing to do with Russia and consider you to be unwelcome invaders, there is no confusion for anyone about the difference, no matter how many times Putin spews his lies through RT propaganda.

[@Red_Duc]

Liv is Livonian, culturally close to Estonian. In the modern day there are like a few speakers of Livonian. It's almost dead, has actually already been declared dead but has a small community trying to bring it back / make it continue living on.

[@Coteoki]

There's actually a child that was taught Livonian as their first language, meaning that there is at least one native speaker of the language!

[@Red_Duc]

@@Coteoki Yoooo that's sick!

[@Oumegi]

@@Coteoki The chosen one !

[@kanak9305]

I live in a city called Livonia

[@Xictlii]

@@Coteoki Old prussian not livonian

[@DarkLobster69]

I’ll play devils advocate for the Devs, when talking about if they actually listen to feedback; I imagine there’s quite a bit of a disconnect between the average player that makes a suggestion, and what’s possibly to actually implement into the game, so it’s absolutely cool to see when they are able to listen and implement feedback. For instance, Johan has stated the reason 2 way peace deals will never be added is because of how difficult it would be to code and implement, even though they would like to.

[@LudietHistoria]

yeah I get that, 2 way peace would be a nightmare to code, as a coder myself and modder for eu4 I know that it would take literally months to work on that alone, but if the game not yet announced why not do it? COULD IT BE BECAUSE ITS COMING OUT IN JUNE 2025? BOOM GOTTEM BOYS

[@Thanatos1796]

@@LudietHistoria Maybe it will get added in future patch/dlc. There were some mechanics changed and added in eu4 after release.

[@UwU_for_Christ]

​@Thanatos1796 that's part of the problem with eu4 though, the code turned to spaghetti and that's why it's so poorly optimised. the ideal situation for eu5 would be that it doesn't have the same level of feature creep as eu4

[@mythicdawn9574]

@@Thanatos1796 Possibly. Given how the community was disappointed by the lack of 2 way peace deals, I could see them working on it to make amend AND make some good cash on a DLC. With their current DLC policy, I would guess the 2 way peace deals would come as part of the free update, while the DLC would add something else specific to a bunch of countries. What will probably happen is some people will try and mod it in, whether Paradox plans to do it themselves or not. But having such a mod being well-balanced in its mechanics, and coding the AI to at least not be a complete retard too easy to fool with shitty deals, that's another story.

[@LauftFafa]

players think they can change all , but the feedback is actually just concerning some limited fields . there is a lot of no zones . the devs will still impose their vision on most the areas and this is what some players fail to understand . the 2 peace deal is not like the 1 consul thing in imperator or naval battles who were a much easier fix , with 2 ways deal nothing guarantee the ai will not give up core lands just to balance the deal even though they have won and it happen in vic3

[@tedbed1389]

Voyevodship litteraly translates to 'Marshalling region'. It stems from the root word Voyevoda , which is the official person and institution performing the action of marshalling the troops for the king. Litteral translation is 'Warriorleader' which i think is kinda cool to have such an artefact of the past carry on into modernity.

[@grzegorzha.]

Alternate name is palatinate.

[@adpraeter9403]

26 Silesian princedoms.... Half of all the HRE tags in Eu4

[@Alaryk111]

@@adpraeter9403 All hail Holly Silesian Empire!

[@tedbed1389]

It's ridiculous. Aint nobody got time for that.

[@someguycalledcerberus9805]

Can't wait for HRE microstate #203 themed DLC, for only EUR 6.9 for their national ideas!

[@Oumegi]

@@Alaryk111 Can't wait to play my home region tall. CK3 also has it, now I can do a continuous campaign.

[@k0ziolRD]

Co by było, gdyby rozdrabnianie dzielnicowe Śląska nie ustało.... >bądź mno >Henryk CCCV, książę śląski >budzisz się w swoim wielkim łożu >rozglądasz się po swoim księstwie, pokój 6x6 metrów >tylko dwa metry od okna zaczyna się księstwo brata >stary lubił cię bardziej, więc dał sukinsynowi tylko pasek pod ścianą >nawet do drzwi nie może iść bez twojego pozwolenia >xD >chwilę patrzysz, z nieukrywaną satysfakcją na wściekłego brata siedzącego na glebie pod ścianą >o chuj zaczyna ci się chcieć srać >próbujesz wstrzymać ale nie możesz >no trudno >po cichu wychodzisz na korytarz >już myślisz, że udało cię wymknąć, ale wyskakuje kuzyn Henryk >jebaniutki książę korytarza >i cię naskakuje, że co granicę przekraczasz bez pozwolenia i że zaraz wojnę wywołasz >skurwysyn domaga się hajsu za przejście przez jego ksiąstewko >z trudem zbierz ze swoich monet piątaka >skurwysyn ma już pewnie z pięć dych, jak tak dalej pójdzie to jeszcze zjednoczy wasze pięterko >dobra idziesz do kibla >w kiblu ani widu ani słychu wuja Ottona >dobra nasza, przynajmniej za sracza nie zapłacisz >otwierasz kabinę a tam wujowski synek, kuzyn Henio >i mówi ci żebyś wypierdalał >okazuje się, że wuj Otto kopnął w kalendarz i każdy z synalków ma teraz po kabinie >poza najstarszym, on ma resztę kibla >"To gdzie ja mam srać?" >"No u siebie w księstwie, piętro niżej wujo Bolko nikogo nie wpuszcza na korytarz i nikt nie narzeka" >kurwa jebany szczyl >ugadaj się ze zjebem z korytarza >złapcie chłopaka i każcie go zawlec do lochów >a tak, książę klatki schodowej was nie wpuści >może i dobrze, bo gość od piwnicy nawet szczyla lubił >podpisujecie z jaśnie panującym księciem kabiny w kiblu traktat >że da wam się wysrać i wy puścicie go wolno >wracasz do siebie >brat dalej łypie spod okna >przynajmniej twoje księstwo jest w budynku, mogło być gorzej

[@rickardspaghetti]

10:42 "We've got 'Liv', which honestly, I don't know what that is." Bruh...

[@LudietHistoria]

ludi liv hater clearly bro, i hate him

[@turktarihcisi5668]

@@LudietHistoria Do you think they will add black death as an epidemic?Because if they do we are all doomed boi :D.

[@Yes-qj4bi]

@@LudietHistoria :0

[@ambraxis2706]

I get the vague eerie sensation that Paradox uses the forums to perfect their research into the historical accuracy of this game.

[@LudietHistoria]

i get the same vibe tbh and ngl that's not good....

[@aluminiumknight4038]

Free Researchers lmao

[@lightworker2956]

There is no EU5, there's just someone trying to get their phD and concocting an elaborate scam to get others to do the research.

[@valentinmitterbauer4196]

Judging how Paradox appearently took the austro-bavarian name for the austrian province of "Mühlviadl" instead of the official german name "Mühlviertel", i think they indeed copy forum suggestions without a second thought. (Using dialectal names is awesome, don't get me wrong, but there are two problems: 1. Austro-bavarian dialects are mostly spoken, not written, for administrative and official purposes, standard austrian german is used 2. The name "Mühlviertel" itself is anachronistic, as this name shows up only after 1478, but that's just a nit-pick)

[@rossstewart9475]

They're only following Cunningham's Law: "The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." Seems like a smart application of resources, to me!

[@Xeem_Pad]

2:44 They added Oswiencim. I can see culture conversions incoming💀

[@pituk8913]

Oświęcim had already been there, they just reshaped it.

[@Alaryk111]

Achivment: As Ashkenazi Oświęcim control Nurymberg.

[@yonekamil1235]

@@Alaryk111 learn ortography lol

[@giraffefactory2905]

*cultural enrichment

[@angervol.1]

​@@Alaryk111 as Ashkenazi convert Germany to Judaism

[@KoRbA2310]

RADOM is it's own location! Chytra baba kingdom here I come!

[@aaxanimex]

time to protect our sodas!

[@KoRbA2310]

​@@aaxanimex Your soda will be MINE! BUAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[@dreadvoice7285]

I hope they also listen to the peace offers and AE criticism and suggestions

[@johnnygreenface]

I don't think they will chance the peace offer system. They have already said they will not do a two sided peace deal system

[@LudietHistoria]

ngl after what happened recently losing hope with them listening to feedback outside the forums, and that's not good at all

[@sandercohen5543]

I think resource scarcity is a GOOD thing, because it will (hopefully) force you to take over strategic locations or increase your economic influence in regions where these goods are traded, which will add depth and complexity and enrich the experience. It will create much-needed incentives to conquer certain territories over others, which is something that EU4 could use a lot more of.

[@UwU_for_Christ]

getting the AI to understand 2 way peace deals sounds like hell tbqh. i understand why Johan has a firm no to it.

[@Th3Morgoth]

Ive been DREAMING of two way peace treaties, they would literally make the game so much better!

[@radored7750]

I hope that you could bring Přemyslid dynasty back to the throne as Bohemia, because they died out in 1306, but as we see, some of them still ruled over some Silesian duchies.

[@alcapone4159]

Přemyslovci comeback!

[@beavernation57]

I guess you could say the Teutonic Order was removin’ the Romuvans.

[@Hlodolog]

Reromuvin' them? No?

[@betelletel6908]

I disagree with the fact that resources should be "evenly" distributed. We have the trading system for a reason and historically speaking some regions were at a disadvantage exactly because of the lack of certain goods. If we just give goods to every region then we lose trade flavour and region specific settings (every area should feel different from the others also because of the goods found there)... and the more you progress in time the better the technology and the infrastracutre will become, meaning that it will make trade cheaper even at great distance.

[@figuesplus2679]

there is a game that is coming out, its age of histoiry 3, i know its not paradox but you should give it a try

[@jjoskar5248]

7:15 There won't be back to the piast in eu5 cause Poland is still ruled by the Piasts Ludi

[@tedbed1389]

Which begs the question, how are they going to handle the transition to elective monarchy...

[@Muhammad_Sumbul555]

​@@tedbed1389pops i guess

[@kubabrzyk2428]

:0 i dont expect pdx take so seriusly the feedback i am so exited for eu5 :D

[@emsouemsou]

8:19 That's actually what the Russian expansion into Manchuria in the 19th century was called. It's just west of Green Ukraine. You'll have to wait for the Far East rework :)

[@maxeon09]

10:42 I would assume that is short for Livonian, a balto-finnic culture, that is almost extinct today, with only 1 native speaker (I think).

[@Oujouj426]

There are no more native speakers, the last woman died in Canada some years back. But there's talk about some people raising their kids in Livonian.

[@CatladyAyaki]

Great video as always!!!

[@LudietHistoria]

@@CatladyAyaki meoe

[@TonyVincenzoLeone]

THE SMALL BLUE CIRCLE RIGHT TO CURONIAN AND SOUTH TO LIVS GOTTA BE SEMIGALIAN THEY WERE VERY KNOWN AND FAMOUS DURING BALTIC CRUSADES FIGHTING THE TEUTONS, SEMIGALIANS FAMOUS LEADER NAME WAS NAMEISIS/NAMEJS AND THERE IS A MOVIE ABOUT HIM CALLED THE PAGAN KING, AND NEXT TO SEMIGALIAN SHOULD BE ALSO SELONIAN BUT I THINK PDX MIXED BOTH + LATGALIANS TO CREATE LATVIAN

[@Oujouj426]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of this cherry picking of having Latvian on the map, but then also having Curonian and Semigallian, wut? That's like having Bavarian and Saxon, and then the rest of Germany is just "German".

[@Nickster292]

HELL YES BROTHER

[@cadian101st]

Liv, aka Livonians, are a Finnic ethnic group closely related to Estonians. The last native speaker died a decade ago, but there are still some second language speakers

[@TheOliwierr]

FINALLY new culture map mode... the fun fact is, these cultures are still in Poland. We have Kashubian Prime Minister

[@jakubzych5590]

5:25 like status quo in Stellaris where you keep what you fully occupied, that would be awesome.

[@bartomiejwalich6108]

its funny how all of these are already included for very long time in beyond typus and atlas novum

[@user-ih5uk1tj3u]

Ludi you are singlehandedly saving PDX’s reputation.

[@hogrider8525]

Good. Considering that 14 th century is basically late middle ages, more or less, and vassals and fragmentation was way more common, instead of huge nation states with clear borders.

[@madnesbear]

Polesye - in the forest, and vladimir duchy - zalesye - beyond the forest. New Siveria - Ryazan culture, which greatly influenced the modern Russian language

[@dmytromulin6877]

I actually proposed this division of the big Ruthenian culture into Galician, Volhynian, Polesian, Polatskian, Smolenskian, Severian and smallук Ruthenian and I'm happy the devs agreed with my feedback 😍 I feel that I need to explain about the Severian culture to Ludi. Severia is one of the Ukrainian cultural ethnographic regions, the same as Galicia, Volhynia etc. So Severian culture was not due to the Severian tribe directly, but due to the name of this land - Severia - the core lands of the Duchy of Chernihiv. Volhynian culture - historical lands of the Volhynian duchy Halychan culture - the Duchy of Halych Polesian - the Duchy of Turov-Pinsk Polatskian culture - the Duchy of Polatsk Smolenskian - the Duchy of Smolensk Severian culture - the Duchy of Chernihiv Ruthenian - the Duchies of Kyiv and Pereyaslav This way the cultural division is based on the political division of the Kyivan Rus and on the most powerful regional duchies that existed for almost 400 years. And all these Duchies later actually formed the respective cultural regions of Ukraine and Belarus - Galicia, Volhynia, Polesia, Severia, Right-Bank, Left-Bank. So that's why Severian culture, not because of the Severians, but because of Severia and the Duchy of Chernihiv.

[@Jan.jan2024]

Nothing like ukrainian existed it just russian influenced by polish

[@majorlan5656]

Slutsk : "The Greater Polish have a bigger one than the Lesser Polish"

[@golden_existence]

they could make scripted peace option which can make both sides gain and loose provinces.

[@ArisPLteles]

I wonder what stays behind such dense fragmentation of cultures? Will that have any impact on a gameplay or it is just a gimmick? I may understand that we have more depth to that area but at the end it EU5 may need high-end PC and private solar/wind power plant to support bills. For example Poland - what mechanics will be added to have 5 different cultures behind early 14th century de iure Polish Kingdom (Greater Polish, Lesser PL, Mazovian, SIlesian and Kashubian)? I might understand having Silesian as separate as after loosing their pretendends to the Crown (see battle of Legnitz) - Piast princes basically joined HRE, pledged to Bohemian King (also Polish that time) and started drifting away. I might understand Kashubians as well for being different than other tribes. But what gives other 3 cultures? Probably same for Ruthenians - what will stay behind having Volhynians and Halychians? I might understand that cultures might be dynamic. For example Silesians becoming separate from Polish due to being apart and heaviliy germanized. Same for Galych - inherited by Polish King they may loose connection to other Ruthenia (influence of Polish culture). If we have Pops system it might start from higher strata than peasants.

[@Dread_2137]

Got here randomly, and I didn't know 1:13 my hometown was a country in EU5 😂

[@ShadowWolfRising]

I hope they add Culture Merging and Culture Divergence in EU5.

[@apocalypto2788]

eastern europe second patch before game is out and before GTA6

[@tedbed1389]

Hahaha xD

[@Myshjak]

Yes! There's Brody and Ostroh🥳

[@peachprincess758]

Love you Ludi!!!

[@zimniak_FIAT]

MAZOVIA MENTIONED!!!!!!🦅🦅🐉🐉🐲

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

Western Baltic was renamed to Pruthenian and the Curonian pruthenes were changes to be curonian I think

[@RoberttheWise]

PSA: Be careful when trying to pronounce Polish location names. You might accidentally summon Chthulhu.

[@antonvlasov2092]

1000 ducats have been deposited to your balance sheet

[@chinaunhinged1970]

Thank you paradox, the best companies listen to their player base

[@ghengilhar]

I'm active on the British and Irish rework thread on the forum. I'm looking forward to the changes ahead.

[@rossstewart9475]

I get that two way peace deals would require completely rebuilding that system... but can it *really* be that hard to allow you to offer your territories in exchange for monarch points when making demands, in exactly the same way you're functionally offering your monarch points in exchange for their territories when you send a peace demand? It's the same logic but inverted! I can absolutely see ways you could exploit this against AI, but I really don't see that as a problem because when cheating in a single player game you only cheat yourself. I also know this would have knock on effects in other systems (such as the logic the AI follows when constructing demands themselves), but that's something that can be easily solved - or simply ignored, and never have the AI offer to give up it's territories. It's a real shame they've given a hard no here, as this would add so much to the game.

[@JeremyMidlam]

Hearts of Iron 2 had a two-way peace deal system, you could exchange anything from provinces to tech to resources, tho seldomly used it proves they have done it before and could reimplement a system like that with modern UI

[@Schizz76]

Ludi, have they released a culture and political map of East Asia yet? I’m surprised that they’ve released so many maps but I’ve yet to see a video about the region. Can’t wait.

[@Chuck12312]

10:45 just saying, its the Livonian culture, a very old culture otherwise i like the two way peace deal especially in diplomacy if you can trade locations or province etc

[@samuellesage7020]

Hey Ludi I have a question shouldn’t the Golden Horde be divided between the white and blue hordes ? I’m pretty sure they both still existed during this period and it would probably help in terms of balance for countries like hungary, Lithuania or muscovy to beat them

[@ericsaxon5736]

Btw, voivodeship in Polish is Województwo which literally translates to War-Chief Region. Does it translate to be the same in Romanian? And in case you are Polish, wódz wojenny is the origin of Województwo... :)

[@jasonharter458]

I think the 'victory' condition should change to keep EU thriving. Like instead of always feeling games just go on to either world conquest or just waiting till end, define victory as completing a specific in-depth country mission tree. Getting victory screen after with option to continue on to further conquesr or call it a win. Then like a V is labled for each country victorious with or like a trophy for every single countries full mission tree completed..... Feels more completionist and replayble without the repeat play for world conquest or repeat waiting for random building without further in-depth purpose. Havw like 8k hours on eu4 - love it but wish had something more completionist. Not sure how to suggest to pdx but if someone knows how to suggest please do if you like idea too.

[@DarkArtRP]

I'm worried that the game will be massively overloaded. This overwhelming mass of mini provinces alone reminds me of Imperator: Rome, only much much worse.

[@trevorking1045]

Released in mid 2025 download in mid 2026! This game is going to be so massive 😂

[@ΌνομαΕπώνυμο-ο1τ]

I wonder if there will be events towards the later parts of the game to merge a lot of these cultures as the rise of nationalism was happening

[@NothingSerious...2]

Nationalism happend in 19th century. So if they merged it won't be due to nationalism

[@olegnimets]

By Crimean they ment Crimean tatars 10:06

[@xKazeshi98x]

What's the difference between a greater polishman and a lesser polishman, culturally-speaking?

[@NothingSerious...2]

Mostly dialect, fashion, cuisine and different priotisations of saints. Also different church strucuter as greater comes under 1 archibishop while the other under metropolitan - in times when bishops had their own army and were prominent political figures it was actually important.

[@xKazeshi98x]

@@NothingSerious...2 bishops had armies? Damn

[@tedbed1389]

​@@NothingSerious...2Those differences are post facto the unification of Polish tribes into one polity and christianization. My guess is that the naming split only stems from the original tribes identifing themselves as seperate back from pagan times (politicaly and localy) - but were virtually indistinguishable genetically and culturally. Polish state sprung up in contra to the german enchroachment (polabian slavs) and so the tribes bordering the opponents received the 'greater' designator. There was no subjugation of the 'lesser' Poles that we know of. It would make no sense since nearly the first thing Mieszko does is a defensive battle against the germans. The terms go as far back.

[@TrykusMykus]

Also, whats significant to mention - Poland was divided into smaller entities for 150 years when one king died in the 12th century with greater Poland and lesser Poland being two of the biggest and strongest Polish kingdoms/princedoms.

[@Pseudoplasmagore]

Isn't it quite self-explanatory? The former is greater and the latter is lesser... hihihihi

[@overpredor3412]

They only did 3 days review with Anatolia which 15 locations added lol I am angry

[@greengeck0]

You got no idea how many nerds like me from Lithuania are gonna be larping with the romuvan fate :D World conquest 1 religion here we go

[@RovingTroll]

The whole point of the Tinto Talks was to pick their players brains before the game is too far along to be changed

[@Ratimir101]

I really hope this one will not be massively botched job like Vicky 3, and it seams to be very suitable for modding it to extend timeline to 19th century so if done properly it will cure two wounds at once

[@babakush9772]

Lovin' it ❤

[@10hawell]

Lesser Polish could be called Vistulan after early medieval tribes that Polans subjugated and of course the river

[@Андрей-щ4о8ч]

Ukrainians are not a mixture with Crimean Tatars. Cossacks are Ruthenians who fled to the wild lands from serfdom and resisted Crimean Tatars. Settlers and nomads do not marry, especially when their confessions considered each other evil.

[@kajus1402]

If I remember correctly, Cossacks accepted anyone that would've fled to the Wild Lands for any reason, and thus we do have some reports of ethnically Polish Cossacks and likewise Tatars joining them isn't inconceivable. But yeah it's unlikely. They've always been mostly ethnically Ruthenian, since that's the main ethnic group around Cossack lands.

[@Андрей-щ4о8ч]

@@kajus1402 There were indeed cases of Tatars and Turks joining the ranks of the Cossacks. But this did not happen often. In addition, the Cossacks are a small layer of the population that influenced modern Ukraine more politically and culturally than genetically.

[@Muhammad_Sumbul555]

XD Cossacks are literally a conglomeration of random people, Poles, Ruthenians, Lithuanians, tatars etc. that where outlaws and mercenaries.

[@Андрей-щ4о8ч]

@@Muhammad_Sumbul555 Of course they were criminals, because according to the laws of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth they had no right to leave their lords, and according to the laws of the Ottoman Empire they had no right to attack galleys and ports, lol) The Cossacks were Orthodox, which excludes the presence of a significant number of Catholic Poles and Lithuanians, as well as Muslim Turks and Tatars among them. Judging by the names and surnames of famous Cossacks, the overwhelming majority of them are Ukrainians(Ruthenians).

[@ilyacherepanov5652]

this better be sponsored by pdx!

[@zilosis3794]

I'd like to be able to deforest to create more farmland.

[@LudietHistoria]

same here

[@LudietHistoria]

i think they confirmed already black death event and feature, so aside from historical event has chance of happening more times

[@marsultor6131]

@@turktarihcisi5668The Black Death was confirmed in a very early Tinto Talks (basically the Developer Diary) and will really ravage the population at the start. They also confirmed that you can tone down the intensity of the plague or disable it via gamerules.

[@bigbo1764]

Hope they add the great wonder system from IR, maybe in a DLC or sum

[@ziggytheassassin5835]

Picking which country to play in my first game of eu5 will take hours

[@ok_diamond]

Good that they’re making changes but you’d hope that they wouldn’t need to change so much

[@fogudevstuff]

This game will be the end of my computer, ain’t no way they can optimize this enough to run this many countries specially late game

[@lordbaysel3135]

Clear culture borders is basically saying "no way we have sources for that region"

[@oleksacrowley9580]

“Mix of Ruthenians and Cossacks” - should I write LOL, or pity you for mixing apples with yellow? Cossacks were not an ethnicity. An Estate - probably, however, tied to Ruthenians. Also, there were no Cossacks elsewhere until Ruthenians (Ukrainians) showed up.

[@Koellenburg]

Tbh, I liked the old more clumped trade good distribution.... What's the point of trade if u super mix everything, so u ve got all everywhere.

[@adrianpietrzak4209]

Ludi I may be blind but it seems like you have not put the link to the dev diary anywhere and I'm too lazy to find it on my own, any help?

[@ProvenceTanki]

It's great to see all the changes, but even if they plan for things like bilateral peace deals etc. to maybe be DLC, I'm worried if the game only applies to a % of the *current* playerbase and much less to casual players, all those cool plans and features will be left as dreams as they might just decide to abandon the game. Besides that, I would rather wait longer for release than have the game released as EU4 with better graphics and more features (that are in mods already) with another 2+ years of hoping the game doesn't get abandoned before it sees a 3rd DLC. I'm definitely excited extremely and want to play it immediately but I would hate to see such a highly anticipated title to be abandoned because of lack of interest. Besides that, I hope I'm wrong but as i read someone talk about the "AI can't do this" and "AI can't this", I would be dissapointed to again see AI that's as easy to trick as baiting it to fort on an island and putting out a single ship to trap 100k and steamroll the enemy.

[@ehk5948]

Maybe have a link to the forum post so people can get there easily?

[@LudietHistoria]

forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/tinto-maps-4-poland-ruthenia-baltic-feedback.1701889/

[@gamesgisrael1079]

we gonna have to buy Servers rooms to run this game at this point. theres like 100k+ provinces in eu alone 🙂

[@kdubs9111]

I'm surprised they didn't charge for this update

[@lightworker2956]

I strongly suspect that the AI won't be smart enough to handle two-way peace treaties, and that if implemented the meta will be to just horribly abuse the AI via two-way peace treaties. For example, the AI undervalues a critical fort or trade center province and you get it for too cheap; or they overvalue it and you give them one such province in exchange for way too much land. Or you get way too much money for a province you give them, and then just declare war a few years later anyway. Or you pay up their provinces for a pittance.

[@Pseudoplasmagore]

Still not smart enough?? I've heard some massive advancements have lately been made in the field of AI! Just use one of the new AI chips or sth idk

[@ba5tqq]

In Volhynia H is silent Save ours ear's 🙏

[@dantevenne6865]

I wonder what the system requirements are for this game now. I have a 3070 and 5800x but still looks like it won't be enough 😅

[@TheMarashian]

I imagine Lithuania will be one of the most fun countries now!

[@alt1f4]

Bro where is south america? They have already shown north why not south?

[@Alaryk111]

@@alt1f4 they didn't show anything of new world except world map.

[@konrad6188]

I hope they make reverting back to old slavic religion possible

[@tedbed1389]

Are they keeping this effin "pastel" candy color palette? I hate it. Map modes don't look too good either.

[@silasrobertshaw8122]

Ludi I don't know why Paradox wouldn't listen to you. I mean, no space marines for brandenburg, but everything else. AND, MY GOD that culture map.

[@ЕгорФомин-з6с]

Why did they keep ruthenian around Kiev if they made distinctions based of duchies? Should’ve called them kievan then, since all others are polotskians, smolenskians, volhynians, muscovite and etc.

[@zondor8123]

They should, if they dont it will be like vicky 3 player numbers

[@sucato96]

i guess it would be a hot take. but i think materials should come in lumps. Some countries should have advantage in materials. If you need fur you should have a need to have good relations with fur trading nations.

[@pasaniucdaniel4112]

Yes and no, Novgorod for example should be absolutely full of furs to trade to other countries, but no duchy would ever lack construction wood for example, excepting maybe in deserts. Also any mountain province would produce some stone too. Maybe you will produce many resources in every province with just the one dominating showing on the map?

[@rom_krasko]

Mate, it's Volynia, h is silent

[@mqooz2538]

They will polonize lithuanians even though it will be leading culture in eastern europe (EU4 has this issue where you form Lithuanian-Polish commonwealth and yet you get polish leaders, like wtf)

[@BEPrimAnim]

Livonian culture is the Finno-Ugric culture of Livonia that is similar to Estonian.

[@klemens_gak]

I'm Polish and I'm finally happy

[@yasinayas5343]

it was a month ago... morning ludi

[@LudietHistoria]

@@yasinayas5343 don't matter when it was I cover it sir

[@yasinayas5343]

​@@LudietHistoria yeah but i thought they re-reworked it

[@dr_gamerhind]

Brandenburg-philes comment here

[@Shatterfury1871]

I like that there a Lesser Polish culture because I will assimilate the other two Polish cultures and let only Lesser Polish on the map, because that is what they are, lesser. 🤭🤣

[@Bies546]

Black means west, red means south so red ruthenia means south ruthenia :D

[@iamaim2847]

Modern ukrainins as culture are not descendant from Crimea tatar culture. They are still different culture with different language, religion, traditions and don't really want to mix with slav majority. In that age it was a constant war between slav settlers from the settled forest area and nomads of the Grand Steppe. Cossacks took some attributes from nomad cultures, including tatar, but they were slav christians and kinda was in constant conflict with Islam nomads, including tatar. Marriage with another religion was forbidden until at least 19th centuary. Even in soviet times Crimean Tatar still preferred to be genetically and culturally isolated, had some problems with government, and didn't really participate in what become ukrainin mainstream culture. Ukraine still has exceptions specifically for crimean tatar language in constitution. It was rewritten to discriminate everybody, specifically russian, but crimean tatar were made an exception. So no, they are not in the mix of the ukrainin culture still. Citizens - yes, with some specific rights - yes, but still acknowledged as another culture inside the society. Something like Welsh in UK, was there for centuries, but still not assimilated. And, well, my greategrandfather cossack onece returted from raid with Cherkess girl. It is not really crimean tatar, more to east from there. But by family legend he had a big problem with how to marry her, when she was Muslim. It was if not literally taboo, at least unusual. Sometime around late 1700ths.