13 DETAILED Eastern Europe EU5 MAPS are HERE !!

[@LudietHistoria]

Enjoying a good old fashioned roman restoration? mkay kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5mxo2R8Zq6bm68

[@REALSHAMROCKSAN]

hELLO lUDI AS ALWAYS GOOD JOB AS YOUR EVERY RECENT VIDEO IM SPREADING THE MESSAGE TO ADD POW MECHANIC TO EU5 SO THE PEOPLE WILL NOTICE AND SPREAD THE MESSAGE LIKE THE HORRIBLE AND DEGENRATE PROTESTANTISM THAT IS. THANK YOU

[@Tho-ugh-t]

I fell off ludi, i only watch your Poland videos now😔😔

[@gorol7440]

Five gold mines Ludi.

[@patrykmachowski97]

Mati Rawa?

[@utherlightbringer3868]

Croatia was fully autonomous with duke/ban and its parliament it was just united crown stop spreading misinformation first parliament that was mentioned was in 1273. in slavonija

[@marcin7054]

17:30 it should be made historically acurate, Poland was almost untouched by black death, due to low concentration of people and quarantine on borders by Casimir III decree

[@daniel8703]

Im glad someone point this out

[@Jeff_Reyx]

my favourite king

[@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443]

That wasn't the reason

[@danvernier198]

That was neither the reason nor the case. The reason for that statistic is bad research done with political motives. There's significant reforestation in Poland after the black death just as there is in the rest of Europe. The idea of Poland being spared is simply based on the fact that they didn't have any census data to base it on, so they made it up.

[@marcin7054]

@@adolfhipsteryolocaust3443 That's not argument.

[@jovanpejic]

16:20 yep.. only 2 gold mines :D ahahah

[@qrs1989]

the 2 right below don't exist in Ludi's eyes.

[@יונתןשליט]

@@qrs1989 there is another one in the eastern parts of hungary as well

[@nebeskisrb7765]

I'm honestly upset he managed to miss those lmao

[@MaXiMoS54]

Hungary going to be OP

[@Equilibriumfan96]

@@MaXiMoS54 As it was historically. Well before the Ottomans game atleast...

[@kaytas_]

17:30 quite the opposite, thanks to Eastern European low population density, dense forests and focus on rural lands rather than urban developing, lands around Poland especially faced little to none plague impact, it was West that was hit drastically thanks to their big population density

[@greengeck0]

Svēks gīvs Ludi! Resident Samogitian here, Aukstaitian and Samogitian are 2 main cultures of 4 (technically 5) in Lithuania, and you are right its based a bit on religion, but primarily culture and history & geography, Samogitia initially developed seperately as it was it's own baltic tribe but very closely related to the lithuanians (more so than any of the other tribes) so it is marked as Lithuania in tribal maps. It was often used as a bargaining chip with the teutons and the like which has caused some animosity for us against the Aukstaiciai historically. I could tell me but I am afraid of rambling. Aukštaitja means the high hill, Žemaitija the low hill (hard to translate, as I know there is a ebtter word for both in english), they are seperated by the middle Lithuania basin of the Nevežis river which forms the higher elevation areas being Žemaitija and Aukštaitija forming the regions and cultural identity of these areas("highest" point in lithuania is like 300m :D) This is from the baltic tribal federation times that turns into what we call Lithuania as we know, there are massive language differences, as samogitian is officially a dialect but effectivelly its own language (there are movements and research being done as we speak, that might officially designate it as a language fully).

[@armyaj]

it would be similiar to how Upper Germany refers to higher elevation (think alps I.E Bavaria, Switzerland, Austria) and Lower Germany refers to the NW and coastal regions of Germany!

[@treedriller]

Šaunu , kad atsiranda tų, kurie netingi ir patikslina kažką kas susija su Lietuva, nors tai būtų ir strateginis žaidimas, ačiū 😁

[@ernestasluza1787]

As fellow Samogitian I agree :)

[@arturhashmi6281]

From what I remember Your grand duke Vytautas in the letter to Emperor Sigismund said that Lithuanians and Samogitians are the same people speaking the same language.

[@cajmon1251]

About cultures. Samogitians and Aukstatians were two ethnic groups which later formed the Lithuanian nation. Kashubians were slavic Pomeranians, in West Pomerania they were germanised until 20th century, but in areas west of Gdańsk they are small minority to this day. In Prussia the Old Prussians were mixed with German and Polish settlers, they had been germanised until 17th century. In 1337 there was almost no difference between Poles and Silesians, Silesian identity formed through centuries of isolation from Poland. In this time Masovians were more different from Poles than Silesians. This culture in Russia is probably Severian.

[@rod9829]

Nice English but you would say “were not Germanised until X”

[@zerrro7]

Yeap. It's definitely Severian. In fact, some of the provinces here that had Ruthenian "culture" were Severian.

[@treedriller]

@@rod9829 🤓

[@dwarow2508]

​@@zerrro7 Severian was barely a culture even in the 9th century and basically all but vanished by the time Russia was unified. By 1337 all the culture of former medieval Russia was simply Russian

[@kaladore6798]

@@dwarow2508 not true there weren't russian in 1337

[@DAWIDO41]

4:09 actually those are polish names XD Most of the dukes in silesia were Piasts

[@constantine4529]

Lithuania gameplay would be sick, you'll basically have 3 choices: - Remain pagan - Convert to Orthodoxy - Convert to Catholicism

[@bestrafung2754]

I'm totally gonna stay Pagan and see if I ca survive.

[@TheElder90]

17:30 Plague didn't affect Poland that much (in comparison with western countries) precisely because of the lower population density

[@KAW0111]

That is a common myth. The eastern regions were less dense, but the plague hit them. The truth is that King Casimir III imposed a quarantine at the country's borders

[@IT-ry8xt]

Most exciting for me is that I will be able to play as Poland with Piast dynasty, and no other then Casimir the Great

[@wiktorstrzeszewski7393]

due to low population of eastern europe plague did little damage, if you look at black death maps many show eastern europe/poland as relatively unaffected

[@Siler1654]

Olso Poland was unaffected mostly because there was practically no trade with outside world

[@wencosa]

Estimates for Bohemia/Moravia are 10-15% of the populatin died in those plagues. Also not sure I agree with the population number in Bohemia and Moravia, I think it should be higher.

[@kamiltomkiewicz5499]

Worth to say that in 1337 whole silesia was Ruled by Piast dynasty because Poland was getting sliced after each Pist dead to his sons, also not all of them did promise(yet) obiedience to the Bohemians.

[@Jemnej]

Is it true? Wasnt Opole part of Crownland of Bohemia since 1327?

[@arturhashmi6281]

@@Jemnej Not really. Silesia became vassal of the Emperor in 1157, but it was still ruled by Piasts and in 1172 after one of the many brotherly wars among Piasts it became part of the autonomus Duchy of Opole. In 1327 it became vassal of Bohemia again, but it was constatly ruled by Piasts until the 1532.

[@Jemnej]

@@arturhashmi6281 Thx for reply. As I understand it, in 1327 was Opole still ruled by Piasts but as integral part of Boheamian crownlads instead of Polish kingdom in wider regional meaning.

[@arturhashmi6281]

@@Jemnej Yes, but I should add that Polish kingdom did not exist between 1138-1320. During that time Silesian Piasts became very dependent on the Empire so it would help them in competition with their Piast cousins/brothers/uncles, during that era Germanization of Silesia started and it is still at some point part of Silesian culture which is slighlty different then in the rest of Poland.

[@Jorleifur]

18:01 Actually, there are a few parts we're missing beyond italy. Balkans, modern russia, british isles, and scandinavia (we've only seen the swedish control mapmode iirc)

[@cosmindima8594]

Transilvania gets more autonomy after XV century, Voievod of Transilvania was more a title with no autonomy at the start date

[@Shadowking-jtm]

16:25 there's a total of 5 gold mines in this frame alone if u look at the bottom and bottom left

[@Alberto2]

I don't get it. They made the culture in Belarus and Ukraine the same while leaving out the Rusyns in Eastern Europe but they made like 5 varieties for Dutch in Western Europe.

[@blue-d4g]

Everyone's free to argue, just provide sources and they'll change it

[@thomasvrielink299]

Did they change it again? Last I saw they merged Dutch and Flemish into just 1 culture...

[@pavuk357]

Technically by this time Belorussians haven't really formed as separate culture yet. Basically after Mongol invasion and complete fall of Ruthenia, its people were split in 3 ways: western (Kyiv, Galicia-Volhinia, Chernihyv and Belarus), northern (Novgorod) and eastern (Muscovy and surroundings). And 3 are ascendants but neither is a true heir and it shouldn't matter because all but eastern moved on forging their new principalities, kingdoms and identity even though western ones were still calling themselves Ruthenians by 15th century before more distinct Ukrainian and Belorussian identities became more and more common in various documents and art. Belorussians have started becoming their own thing closer to 15th-16th century thanks to heavy influence of Lithuanians which more southern Ruthenians were protected by geography and politics of. Anyhow, unless they development some system for development of separate cultures like it has happened irl, they really should just split it in a culture group separate from Muscovites and Novgorodians.

[@Alberto2]

@@thomasvrielink299 In the end I think they did, but I'm pretty sure they still left a couple varieties that are probably even more similar to standard Duch than Flemish.

[@somer573]

Tbh, slavs are much closer to eachother,

[@Booyak1]

4:10 the names displayed are polish as most of the Silesia were ruled by piast princes back then which got germanized later down the line.

[@KiraiKatsuji]

And by later down the line you mean few centuries down the line

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

"Poland" "Eastern Europe" That's totally not going to start a riot

[@kiss-shotacerola-orionhear220]

Whats wrong?

[@filiprohn1643]

Well, it was during this time that polish diplomacy started turning more and more east, so it's definitely appropriate

[@Muhammad_Sumbul555]

​@@notsheram📢📢📢🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱Poland is Central Europe🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱📢📢📢

[@StaIinus]

​@@kiss-shotacerola-orionhear220And simply no one wants to be associated with Eastern Europe and Russia and everyone wants to distance themselves from them, that's why a Pole will not tell you that he is from Eastern Europe, only Central Europe, a Lithuanian, a Latvian or an Estonian will say that they are Baltic countries, or possibly Estonians that they are Nordic and everyone from the Balkans that it is a Balkan country, because even that is better than being compared to the civilization hole that is Russia.

[@StaIinus]

​@@filiprohn1643And the British conducted diplomatic activities in India, but you won't call them Asians

[@DdN444k7Pa]

Belorus and Ukraine is 17-19ct Also at Galicia near Drohobych must be salt, oldest ukrainian and also one of oldest european enterprice since 1250, "Drohobych salt plant".

[@SuperJuicyAncap]

Thanks for making sure we get a quality video Ludi! Love your videos on the Tinto Talks and Maps, and look forward to the next one tomorrow! YOU'RE AWESOME

[@LudietHistoria]

my pleasure bro, thanks for watching

[@arqeq7164]

Actually for the Plague in Eastern Europe, it *should* affect it WAY less than Western Europe, due to lower population and way lower population density. It was actually pretty close to what happened IRL, as Poland, Lithuania and Milan were the only major places not massively affected by the Black Death

[@Donderu]

4:22 I think Ludi might be slightly colorblind, because those 3 are very different colors

[@sullenskulls9709]

They're different colours, sure, but they most certainly are not "very" different colours, and would probably benefit from some tweaking.

[@blue-d4g]

They look really similar, especially because all three have vassals of their own which create a gradation of colors.

[@MaXiMoS54]

The vassals would all look pretty similar though

[@alexandruraducanu1715]

The Cumans are a very interesting culture. Basarab I, the founder of Wallachia, and Thocomerius (his father) have names of Cuman origins, suggesting involvment of these people in the rebellion agains Hungary.

[@Shadowking-jtm]

12:48 weren't a Lott of Hungarians not generalized as cumans in kingdom come? From what I remember is that certain people's such as the Czech considered a Lott of the Hungarians as cumans for a long time even tho that wasn't really the case anymore

[@studyfail]

Friendship ended with "We need a Jagiellon!" now "We need an Angevin !" is my new best friend

[@NapoleonBonaparde]

Croatia did not have "significantly" less autonomy than Transylvania if anything it was the other way around, Croatia was in a personal union with Hungary, it was its own distinct entity with its own legislative body and a Viceroy called "Ban", the ruler of Hungary at the time would have been called King of Hungary and Croatia, and it was like that when the Austrians took over all the way until 1918.

[@LudietHistoria]

You are correct, croatia was a banate. A banata was less autonomous however than a voievodeship or a principate, which is what Transylvania was at the time. So from your own admission, Tramsylvania should be shown and have a higher degree than the BANATE of Croatia.

[@NapoleonBonaparde]

​@@LudietHistoria The title of the Viceroy was Ban but as I said the ruler of Hungary was called King of Croatia because the country was in a personal union under the Hungarian monarch since 1102, it was a separate Kingdom with its own legislative body the "Sabor", what you refer to as Banate of Croatia didn't exist until 1939

[@ericsaxon5736]

17:30 When the Black Death hit, it didn't hit Poland very hard, it could be because Poland's population was not very large and still recovering from the Mongol-Tartar invasions or it was dispersed or just immune. So I would expect the mortality rates/percentages to be much higher in Paris than Krakow.

[@JotvingiuKunigaikstis]

Aukštaitija (The name in lithuanian) and Aukstaitians means inhabitants of the Highlands of Lithuania, Aukštaitija sometimes called The Real Lithuania because in that part started Lithuania and they just conquered another tribes like Yotvingians, Sudovians etc. until this day we have region called Aukštaitija. Aukštaitija is so called because it is located higher than the other large region of Lithuania - Žemaitija (In English Samogitia). Also Aukštaitija was called land of the Lithuanian king or duke.

[@peachprincess758]

Great video as always Ludi!!

[@Diarlex]

To be fair, Poland and Lithuanian should not start at war with Teutonic Order and Bohemia. The war started in 1327 and lasted until 1333 when Polish king - Ladislaus the Short died. Both sides agreed to an armistice and hostilities did not resume despite official treaty was signed in 1343 in Kalisz. Moreover, Ladislaus successor - Casimir the Great met with John of Bohemia in 1335 at Visegrad summit and they formed an anti-Habsburg alliance. However, if for whatever reason Paradox wants Poland and Lithuania to start at war with Teutons and Bohemia, in my opinion Hungary should be part of Polish alliance as Hungarian troops fought on Polish side.

[@peachprincess758]

I love you Ludi!!!❤

[@bunjection]

great video! love your polish pronunciations too, they are great!

[@vexonen]

I really hope there will be a way to revive paganism throughout the Baltics and maybe even eastern and northern Europe as Lithuania, it would also be really cool to be able to revive the native duchies of Zemgale, Kurzeme, Latgale or simply Latvia as a whole as the last "king" of the Semigallians Namejs or Nameisis died only 56 years before the start date, which doesn't leave enough time for the idea of a seperate native baltic state to be eradicated, but does leave enough time for some ambitious Baltic kid to decide to call himself a descendant of Namejs and use that as a casus belli to take power in Zemgale (I am using the Latvian names of Kurzeme and Zemgale to differentiate them from the later german dominated duchy of courland and semigallia) Referring to the religious map mode, I don't think that that much of the livonian order would be christian at the start date since christianity was mostly truly practiced by the German nobles, and according to Janīne Kursīte "Latvian gods and spirits" a vast amount of people (native balts) up until the late 18th century were nominally christian, that is to say they acted christian in public, but in private they practiced paganism.

[@aaxanimex]

literally areas on the border between ruthenia and poland (or more correctly where current border between poland ukraine and belarus around city of brest (brest litovsk) should definitelly be marshes (Polesia was a one big marsh and forest area) + namings in few of the area over there needs diffrent name even in polish (issue here is that some of those areas were so little settled that time you literally didn't have any centers like closest you can get in area west of brest litovsk is from 1460s) so naming here is definitelly gonna be a challenge. (good reason why Białowieża Forest really is so well preserved) and population wise it will definitelly be a good mix of cultures here

[@DoJiMoDa]

the rgl. Means "Riga lit" Because they were under the impression they are the cooler Riga

[@TheOliwierr]

@Ludi Kaszubian culture is one third most common culture in Poland (today), after Polish and Silesian cultures. Our prime minister is Kaszubian. It isn't prehistoric culture xd And the Rusyn culture group exists too in Poland but it's very rare... Names in Silesia are not "typical Bohemian" but Polish. Like "Oświęcim" (which is Auschwitz) or "Sieradz" "Opole" and everything there

[@dilemma8550]

trannsylvanian saxon culture maybe, location looks like the nösnerland/Bistritz, the once german part of northern trannsylvania

[@Cigmacica]

Also in north eastern slovakia, i don’t exactly remember how it was named but germans also settled there for mining

[@dilemma8550]

@@Cigmacica zipser sachsen i think

[@joze838]

19:44

[@Gnilron_game]

The location density is perfect in my opinion PERFECT

[@Max-pk6uc]

I see that just like in EU4 paradox fails to add Lithuanian letters to the game, it should be Aukštaitian, also anything outside of modern Lithuania seems to use polish or belorussian names for the locations e.g. Minsk should be Minskas, Grodno should be Gardinas. I don't have proof but I am quite certain that Jotvingia should have a dominant baltic culture or atleast a sizable minority. Memel should not be Samogitian (I'd prefer Žemaitian to be the name of that culture) Memel should be Curonian and I'd say the province that includes Memel location should be named Memel as it is the most important city in that location. Having Aukštaitian culture and not Lithuanian makes it more difficult since the areas shown to be part of Aukštaitian even to this day are devided into Dzūkija and Suvalkija and I feel like if even today those regions are seen as very diffrent and have a very diffrent dialect, showing it as being part of the Aukštaitian culture is misleading.

[@antonpaddubny3995]

It was never Minskas or Gardinas. Get your modern Lithuanian endings tf out.

[@Max-pk6uc]

@@antonpaddubny3995 EU4 has always localised province names to the ruling culture. Lithuanians by default add the suffix "as" to many names and placenames. It was never Kovno, but when you conquer Kaunas as the Teutonic order the name changes to Kovno, the way germans pronounce the name. You can load up a game of EU4 and see Minskas and Pinskas on the map. I want consistency, I don't care if its by default the native/original name or the dominant cultures pronounciation, I want it to be consistent.

[@kamilszadkowski8864]

@@Max-pk6uc I assume this time names are based on which culture is most prevalent among the pops living in the location/province. In that case, most names within the Duchy of Lithuania should be Slavic. Not to mention Lithuania adopted Ruthenian (Chancellory Slavonic) as their bureaucratic and court language.

[@Max-pk6uc]

@@kamilszadkowski8864 if it is based on the local language, sure. But I don't see the relevence of the fact that ruthenian was adopted as a bureauocratic language since it only makes sense that the state would take over the existing rus bureaucracy and the fact that the ruling cast often spoke a diffrent dialect or language while still being of the same ethnicity. Like it would be weird if before the french revolution all location names in Russua would use french versions of the names, since most of the nobility and government used french. To me it is a lot simpler if the names of location either remain unchanging and use the name for the location of the dominant culture in it, but that makes it kinda boring. Or the location names use the language of the primary culture of the country. If you start having it so that the name changes if the dominant culture in the province changes I fear to see the absolute mess that late game or even mid game EU5 will have, you will have some locations be called jewish, some german some Lithuanian, some polish, some ruthenian all in a jumbled mess, making it harder for players to communicate with other players about which locations they want to siege/move troops to etc. I just think the system which already exists in EU4 is simple to implement and adds enough charm seeing provinces slightly change their name after you conquer them

[@treedriller]

Yeah, It should be dynamic.

[@BaileyOB]

i appreciate how much insight you have on history, learning a lot from you mate. nice deconstructions

[@laszlogyorgynagy9019]

Ludi maybe your answer for transylvania is that the data what they use is from original and internationally accepted resources, not created in the 19th and 20th century?. :))

[@aluminiumknight4038]

Found the magyar

[@hl3493]

I really like to see how many different trade goods there are. I always play EU4 with 'trade goods expanded' mod that not only adds many more goods, but also allows you to build buildings that change the tradegood of a province (i.e. timber => furniture), making playing tall much more interesting. Perhaps it's not fitting well into the (early) medieval but I would love a more sophisticated economic system that allows you, for example, to produce bronce if you can access copper and tin in order to use the bronce for cannons. Staying with this example, it would push you towards developing your mines (and defending them) in order to keep your armies supplied. Also love to see Slovakia being full of metals, the Fuggers made a fortune from mining development later in the area and Banska Stiavnice (Schmenitz in German) was a major mining city in the medieval and the centuries after. It was the first place there gunpowder was used in continental Europe. Mining also was introduced mostly by Germans, maybe some events reflecting that would be interesting. The maintainance system for building looks very interesting and maybe, this is a good base to implement some manufacturies? Like using amber to produce juwelry, etc. I also really like the Silesia thing, it always annoyed me that Silesian was a slavic culture, that simply didn't reflect rather complicated history (am East German and speak some Polish, I know). Looks like a very promising game so far.

[@Bracus.Reghusk]

13:36 Severian i would say

[@Anton_Danylchenko]

Yes. In the place where it should have been Belarusian and Ryazanian... EU4 just called all of those people Ryazanians for no reason. So in EU4 Smolensk had Ryazanian culture and now it seems it will have Severian culture while in reality it was Belarusian culture (the same as in Polotsk)

[@dwarow2508]

Russian. Severian basically disappeared by the 10th century

[@kaladore6798]

@@Anton_Danylchenko there weren't belarussians in 1337

[@Anton_Danylchenko]

@@kaladore6798 then you can call them another way. But people from Polotsk and Smolensk principality were already unique entity by the XIV century. Call them Krivichs - it would be most correct. They also called themselves Litivns - but this way people would confuse them for Lithuaninas.

[@TheArthas2]

As a dane I am curious about Denmarks situation at this point. The kingdom was basically bankrupt and most was held by german merchants. The King only had north Jutland. In 20 ish years Valdemar the 4th reunified Denmark by sword and coin. He sold estonia to the teutons. Reconquered Scania and had Denmark on a path of Baltic Dominance. He however got into a conflict with the hanseatic league who defeated the danish king. His daughter Margrethe the first, founded the Kalmar Union.

[@bori009911]

Casimir 3 of Poland should be damn good ruler when you look at history

[@StaIinus]

4:06 these are Polish names, not Czech

[@oliwierbroda2575]

​@@woefulfisherhe was literally pointing out that those states are literally in Polish. Also Polish and Silesians as separate cultures don't make sense this early. The went their separate ways later during the Bohemian rule. (Also German Silesians won't be a major thing until Prussia takes it).

[@sano2734]

@@woefulfisher Said a russki from Mukhosransk xD

[@Yuudaddy]

@@woefulfisher Funny because Silesia was ruled by Polish nobility even past the 18 century and they speak a dialect of Polish.

[@StaIinus]

@@woefulfisherIf Poland has no claims to Silesia, then by the same logic the Russians do not have half of their country, please give back what is not yours and Papa Stalin gave it to you. Poland and Lithuania had ruled these areas since the 13th century, so give them back. You see, asshole, your logic doesn't work and your teeth are probably just clenching because we have running water and we don't have to take a shovel with us to the forest when we have to go to the toilet.

[@kamilszadkowski8864]

@@woefulfisher What?! The game starts literally in the time period when Poland loses Silesia to the Bohemian crown. Are you trying to tell me that the XVI century began in the 1300s? Before that since the XI century Silesia was part of the Polish crown. Your claim doesn't make sense from perspective of culture, ethnicity or language as well. Silesia remained largely Polish-speaking until the XVIII century. Only after that date most of Silesia (Lower Silesia) spoke German. However, Upper Silesia reminded the majority of Polish even until the XX century.

[@SuNStereO]

Separating samogitians and aukštaičius at this year is a stretch. Even Grand Duke Vytautas wrote to the pope that this separation comes from other cultures (outside). And Lithuanians don't separate each other into different cultures. It's not the same as a difference between Poles and Lithuanians etc. What in Lithuanian this separation means: Žemaičiai ( samogitians ) live in low lands. And Aukštaičiai live in high lands. Nothing more

[@supereero9]

I guess the differentiation is based on language

[@SuNStereO]

@@supereero9 it's different dialect, not different language. Lithuanian and latvian are different languages. Although they are very close to each other.

[@Alaryk111]

But EU4 already separate lowlan and highland scots?

[@supereero9]

@@SuNStereO It's debatable, the difference between a dialect and a separate language is not objective. As a sidenote, I'm a Finnish speaker, I can understand someone speaking meänkieli, a separate language better than some dialects of Finnish, because the categorization is political as much as it's linguistic

[@SuNStereO]

@@supereero9 What's what im afraid of. The political separation. Because if you separate Samogitians from Lithuanians you open a can of worms that Grand Dutchy of Lithuania was not Lithuanian but Belarussian. Because Samogitians are true Lithuanians and Lithuanians are some kind of a mixed slavic monter. Or something like that.

[@kevinkabali7201]

I guess that also means vassals cost no or little diplomatic capacity/slots, and you have to balance them in other ways. Johan did hint before, you can create vassals (like eu4 client states) everywhere you want.

[@Shadowking-jtm]

6:50 Kinda feel like an system like the occupation unrest in hoi4 would be an good use for subjects in eu5 like the higher the bar, lower the autonomy of said subject would be and that at an certain threshold it'll disappear form the map, that way it would accurately be able to show the autonomy levels subjects had as in the case with Hungary, that would mean tho that they do show the border of the subject but colored in the overlords color and with borders that only show as something like an province as to show the overlords domain

[@Yasinets]

Strange to see that Polish cutlute and Catholicism has any ground in Kingdom of Galicia Vohlynia, while in reality even in 15th century Orthodox faith was predominant in the former kingdom. For more statistics check books "Ziemie ruskie. Ruś Czerwona" and "Polska XVI wieku pod względem geograficzno-statystycznym. Podlasie" by Polish historian A. Jabłonowski.

[@Apotheism]

Estonia definitely needs pagan population. Not very long after EU5's start date, there was a popular uprising in Estonia, Saint George's Night Uprising, in 1343. It was an ethnic Estonian revolt against the Germans and their Christianisation of Estonia, which involved killing German settlers, killing priests, and burning churches. It was unsuccessful, but it showed that paganism was still very strong in Estonia, and it would be more accurate for only really the Baltic Germans in Estonia to be Catholic with a small minority of Estonians being actually Catholic. Definitely not like how it is now, where the entirety of Estonia appears to be majority Catholic.

[@aluminiumknight4038]

Do you think what the teutons did was colonialism

[@KiraiKatsuji]

@@aluminiumknight4038 Yeah, conquering and exterminating native population of a region is pretty much colonialism for majority of instances

[@zesky6654]

​@aluminiumknight4038 it's textbook settler colonialism.

[@MilkJugA_]

The old rus kingdom had its powerbase mainly around kyiv, which spread further east along the rivers (such to the moscow area). The ukraine-russian cultural divide didnt really form after the black death, mainly from centuries of ukraine being under polish control.Imo it would make more sense for the game to start of with more of a ck3 approach to the russian culture, being more united. Start it off by having it all be called the "Rus" culture, and afterwards being split to Ruthenian and Muscovite depending on the borders. Novgorodian being its own culture is kinda fine I think though.

[@ogaoga7145]

ck3 approach literally bullshit, they called ruthenians as russian culture, which didn't exist till when, late 19 century I guess?

[@thegreekguy1124]

Well really they were all regarded as the same,even the Novgorodians until the 19th century basically. But they were the same in more of a sense like,Cretans and Epirotes are both Greeks so they see themselves as the same people even though there are little differences. So overall,if Paradox is willing to add like 15 Greek cultures,then they should also split the Rus in Ruthenian,Belarussian,Muscovite,Novgorodian,Rusyn etc. If not they shouldn't.

[@Alaryk111]

​@@thegreekguy1124they divided Czechs and moravians and those are more simmilar than the different rus thingies.

[@АндрейЖдырев-й4х]

Why didn't they share Polish culture then? There were no less differences. The question is also why to draw the modern borders of Ukraine and Belarus to the mythical Ruthenian culture. Yes, there was a division of dialects, but it was completely different. For example, the Seversk culture occupied lands right up to Kyiv, as well as all of modern Belarus. The dialect of Kyiv and Galicia was also different.

[@dwarow2508]

Medieval Russia originally had it's center of power in Kiev, but that shifted to Vladimir following it's fragmentation in the early 13th century. But yes, by 1337 there was no eastern Slavic split yet. It should all just be called Russian.

[@rafakrzentowski9549]

17:25 meanwhile Poland was the least or one of the least effected countries in Europe

[@ms_publisher7143]

Paradox showing that in a time where game devs have become less creative and more detached from their fans that it is still possible to make a game which bucks these trends and which grants them endless praise for their hard work and dedication.

[@denisevlogiev]

Mom get the camera my comment made it into a Ludi video great video as always dude, absolutely love your explanations

[@Wiqser]

Thank you Sire, ur content, is always an amazing display of cleverness and information

[@filipzerjavic8789]

6:54, Croatia was a Kingdom in a personal union with Hungary. As such, it had significantly more authonomy than Transylvania.

[@baserv3849]

1:38 Teutonic Knights were actually invited to these lands by Duke of Mazovia Konrad I for protection against pagan prussians. The knights used this as a pretext to establish their own country and stopped being loyal to Poland, warring against it

[@TheStrus100]

4:00 these are Polish names, because there was a branch line of the Polish dynasty - Piast's and it was vasalised by Czech king earlier.

[@sveppir1]

Hello Mr. Ludi, in 1355, the Polish king designates the Hungarian heir as his heir also. If that event is in the game, there could be a free PU between them just like between Austria and Hungary in 1444

[@stefansmiljanic1697]

You were talking about how hard the beubonic plague will hit eastern europe and i found that the plague hit eastern europe slightly less then wetern europe ive also seen that because of the plague gdp has risen as there was up to 50% of people that died so people tended to become much richer after and even during the plague as people were dieing and their wealth was distributed also there were apparently changes to the region specialisations although i can imagine that eastern europe won't see that u til maybe the mid 1400s? Maybe later mostly because they weren't hit too hard compared to western europe, for the Balkans, sadly i cant say much as they were in a time of turmoil with the serbs fighting with greek despots, the house of anjou and albanian warlords while the byzantines were in midst of the civil war of 1337 while the ottomans were exerting pressure on the empire (might be intresting to explore it and perhaps evade the civil war and possibly push the ottomans back) so i have a hard time finding reliable sources for it although i can say that many people tought that god was punishing them for sin so maybe monarchs should loose piety (if it exists) when plague hits them Otherwise if paradox wants to explore the idea of the plague changing the map (which they probably did but im saying nevertheless) i have a short document by a professor of commonwealth and imperial history on it: www.history.ox.ac.uk/black-death-and-european-expansion

[@jk_surman]

The Poles invited not to convert Lithuanians but mostly the Old Prussians! They are also Baltic and not sure, but I think Old Prussians (the Baltic ones) still resided there, though the next few hundred years they were killed and/or germanized

[@vattghern257]

Fun fact but Inowrocław Duchy at the border of Poland/Teutons didn't exist there in 1337. Dukes of Inowrocław exchanged these lands in 1327 for Duchies of Sieradz and Łęczyca.. edit: Also in Silesia there're like 4 independent Duchies from Bohemia at this point and one Duchy of Jawor of Bolko II was an ally of Poland in this war. (In fact his Duchy was the last independent Silesian Duchy in history) Ziębice, Jawor, Nysa Duchies were definitely independent at that time. edit2: Marshes in Mazovia should be greater in the map. Literall translation of Mazovia is "People covered in Mud" terrain there is when a lot of Vistula tributaries meet.

[@galguin5304]

Lithuanian here, Samogitian is a very distinct culture to this day that translates from Lithuanian language as Lowlanders (Zemaiciai), The rest of Lithuania struggle to understand what they are saying, it's like someone from Edinburgh trying to talk to someone from Peterhead - it's the same language, but still so different, also there was a national debate about a decade ago if they should have a passport of their own. Ausktaitian comes from Lithuanian word Aukstaiciai, which translates to Highlanders (hilariously the average elevation difference between those two territories is probably about 100m) and we hardly use this term, basically the population of Lithuania is mainly comprised of Samogitians and Lithuanians.

[@Mi-guo-wai]

1:10 With those words you have made yourself a whole nation of enemies, or even two if the Lithuanians have similar feelings towards the Iron Bretheren... In all seriousness though, greetings from Poland :D

[@oliwierbroda2575]

There should be more marshes in Poland and Prussia. If you go there THESE days they are very swamp like with over thousand lakes!

[@abo27]

Well Ludi, I am not sure why you are triggered by Transylvania. In that century it was an integral part of Hungary and it remained so until the Ottomans arrived. After 1541 you might say it should be represented as a more autonomous territory.

[@martynasg9652]

There are some inaccuracies in Lithuanian culture. So by this point it should be 3 distinct regions: Žemaičiai (samogitians), Aukštaičiai and Lietuviai (Lithuanians). Lithuanians were the dominant tribe in the modern day Lithuanian territory and the one who unified the country. It is also where all our capitals were (Vorūta/Kernavė/Trakai/Vilnius).

[@martynasg9652]

So basically the country got the name because of one of the tribes and since it was the dominant one it also assimilated other Baltic tribes like Jotvingiai, Sėliai and Kuršiai.

[@MaXiMoS54]

Weren't there yotvingians or something as well

[@EvoDeVeau]

12:02 they're still significant ethnic group in Poland (just in case)

[@aqvamarek5316]

L. stands as short form for "Land", and "Rg" is short form for Riga, so the country with "Rgl." should be "Rigaland" and is a common german specific naming for a area around a City, which is extremely strong linked to a city (here Riga), but under formal feudal rule and landownership.

[@EvoDeVeau]

13:43 I'm not expert, but afaik ruthenia consist of red ruthenia, black ruthenia and white ruthenia (this one is belarusan's), so idk if they're gonna split that up or just let it be

[@eh1496]

I'd really like to see the Karaites represented somehow in Lithuania. They're a turk speaking jewish branch originally settling in crimea and they were brought to Lithuania by the Duke and served in his honour guard.

[@tylerphuoc2653]

Like the Lithuanian version of the Varangian Guard?

[@unregierbar7694]

Looking forward to play the Teutonic Order and blob into the east.

[@PAINNN666]

13:35 Ludi it's Seversk, Severian\Severiane culture. Because it's North from Kiev probably. This is modern Chernigov, Sumy, Kursk, Bryansk oblasts

[@NimrodElTzane]

And it is the TIME that I had to step up! As I am s Silesian and Silesians were Polish tribe! (there were also Gołeszycowie too!), and thgey spoke (damn tbh in these times Poles Cheks and Silesians spoke almost one language with regional variation) Back to the topic Silesians were ruled by Piast dynasty offshots (various divisions from the main branch), and they were slovli graviting towards Cheks and mostly Germans (You know better life standards and mostly better development and political divisions among Polish Piast dukes ) btw most of these names are shortened and are in Polish or German (Iam from Cieszyn so it will be "Tes" Teschen in Latynized form) Please take Note!!! Greetings /edit/ Up to now in Lithuania are Aukstithian dialect, on the East is Seversk, Belarusian are Rhutenian as (biela - rus) is technicallly Biela ruthinia (cause Ruthinia is latinization of Rus and additionally Word about black plague, the central and easter Europe regions (that You were saying about) werent hit that much. Mostly because of 2 reasons more space and less peoples

[@electromagic]

13:41 Severia? Named by Новгород-Северский Novgorod-Severskiy? (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Novgorod-Seversk)

[@sirvotka3520]

13:32 That's Severian i think

[@ArisPLteles]

25% Bohemian will not help you in pronouncing Silesian names as in those are either Polish or German (probably depends on level of germanization of those lands). During feudal partition in mid Medieval Bohemian Kings claimed Polish Throne (with success - 2 kings) but lost it at some point. Silesian Piast princes decided they want to be part of HRE than be under some random cousing of theirs and pledge alliegiance to Bohemians. In EU4 we were able to see final chapters of that process - Poland being united under Jagiellons with only Masovia as vassal and 2 counties of Silesia as vassals of Bohemia. Last king of Piast and later Jagiellons made agreements with Luxembourg royal family to renounce claims to Silesia as their sphere of interest shifted towards east - Kazimierz the Great claimed Galicia - Volhynia (or inherited that land). Fun Fact - Silesian nobility became part of Austria, later Prussia being germanized and being part of Prussian and German aggresive actions against Poland, part of their Imperial endavours. Look at some surnames of German generals, sound very non-germanic. Not to say that they wanted to delete any connections of their families to Poland, so they even asked for a painting of Legnica battle against Mongols. In that time it was a battle of Poles led by Silesian Piast princes (strongest in Poland) but on the painting all christians are depicted as Crusaders (teutonic) not Poles ;). Fun Fact 2 - To counter loss of Silesia, Kazimierz got Galicia, which in effect got its own Polish population (Ruthenians as well ofc). After World War 2, Stalin decided to shift Polish borders and population from that part of pre-war Poland were send do Silesia (among others). And Germans from Silesia (some of them ancestors of Polish population from Medieval) sent to Germany. Anyway In early XIV story situation is still not decided, so playing Poland would be very interesting - maybe more than in EU4.

[@TastyEmpire51]

Ingria area should be Suomenusko i think. Atleast they were majority Finnic region in this timeline.

[@dv8tyler692]

4:30 Not sure if that was a joke, but if not... I think we just found out Ludi is color blind.

[@oleksacrowley9580]

Rusyn is just another synonym for Ruthenian.

[@АндрейЖдырев-й4х]

Ruthenian is just the Latin name for Russia.

[@oleksacrowley9580]

@@АндрейЖдырев-й4х yes, the name stolen by moscovites.

[@rainbowstalin594]

Rus not Russia And no it's not the same thing

[@АндрейЖдырев-й4х]

@@rainbowstalin594 The Poles literally called the captured Galicia and Volhynia Little Russia at first. And then simply Russian voivodeship. In the original "Województwo ruskie" and ""dux totius Rusiae Minoris". I will even say more specifically the Lithuanians and Poles, with the residents of Galicia and Kyiv. They were the first to use the word Russia instead of Rus. In Moscow they began to use the word Russia steel after the annexation of Kyiv. Because this is the second myth, no Western Russian written language existed. Russians in Moscow studied from books written in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The Russian language in the Lithuanian principality has nothing to do with Belarusian and Lithuanian.

[@dwarow2508]

Ruthenian itself is just thr Latin translation for Russian.

[@MichusubPl]

CK3, EU V and Vic 3 mega campaign gonna be crazy

[@kevdog6425]

I dunno about the Golden Horde being mostly tengri in 1337. Tribes like the Bolgars were converted as early as the 9th century. Sure the leadership of the Goldem Horde were tengri at the beginning, but even Berke Khan was a convert or at least synpathetic to the religion.

[@CrazyIvanTR]

The kisses are fine Ludi if anything it's just in line with your over the top schnappledoop attitude so it's even better. Much love from us to you as well 🤗

[@antonpaddubny3995]

Paradox has a huge problem with EU5, namely them going "our colleague is X(Welsh/Polish etc.), so we automatically included what they said, regardless of what actual sources (or common sense) suggests and in place if using actual historians.

[@Cris1Mac]

I agree the colors of the nations need tweaking.

[@silverams480]

Fucke yeah! Next week it is italy time!!! Was waiting for that so much and for so long!!

[@razorguy5328]

Seperating samogitia and aukstaitija is wrong because both were just different tribes under lithuanian ethnicity, they even exist now as regions and the biggest difference is just the language dialect

[@dylanvogler2165]

Rusyns are really interesting. They're still living in Zakarpattia. Nice to see them represented.

[@czogu5990]

Silesia shouldn't be all under Bohemia's controll. At least from what i know Bolko II the small was an independent duke working closely with Polish and Hungarian Kings against the Bohemian dominance over Silesia. He could be called independent at least until 1348 (End of the war for Silesia) and formally until either 1368 (death of Bolko) or 1392 (death of his wife who inheireted his title after his death). Only after the death of the duchess was Świdnica inheireted by the wife of Bohemian King and annexed to the Bohemian Crown.

[@edisonbarbosa4329]

If the florest terrain will be changeable though the game I would love to see urban terrain in locations with a high level of urban population. Just for the flavor, I don't know what kind of buff/debut it could give.

[@Krzysiex7pl]

When it comes to locations map - Where is Łomża, one of the most important locations in eastern Mazovia? It was only temporarily degraded in 1337 after attacks, but really still one of the most important places there. Also in area called "Płońsk" more important town should have been "Zakroczym" I think

[@niewiarygodny6853]

Did they say anything about "creating new locations during game"? Cause i wonder why it's not a feature in Eu5, ekhem i mean project Cesar. Like they have atm problem that game will last for +-500 years and some starting locations does not make sense, cause thsoe been created much later than starting date in Eu5. But it's done to make sense "later". So having event or decision to "create" another new location in a province would make sense. It could also have some drawbacks, like draining pops from neighbouring locations, which already been deweloped with buildings into new, undeweloped one.

[@MrRadosz]

Poland was the only european country that wasnt devastated by the plague. After the plague, the difference between polish population and western europe wasnt that massive.

[@dwarow2508]

The Russian duchies were barely affected either.

[@negotive4303]

​@@dwarow2508 In this case, the reasons are the same. Here, however, we can add the relative cleanliness of the Russian population due to the presence of steam rooms (baths) and a huge number of rivers.

[@DeanMonsieur]

I can finally LARP as the Livonian Order

[@Keanu_Uchiha]

About Ruthenian culture in Belarus, it's correct because Lithuania come to this lands recently, and there pass not much time for splitting this culture to 2 different. Lithuania make big influence to this lands.

[@Leo-yr5jb]

Kingdom of Ruthenia not Galich

[@thegreekguy1124]

I am really existed for the maps of the Balkans and Anatolia. Especially Paradox's approach to cultures and culture groups there. Like,will there just be Greek?Or will they add the,like,15+ different varieties of Greek that exist? Will they make all of Anatolia just Turkish and Sunni with some Armenians in the east like they did in EU4(very inaccurate)?Or will they make just the coastline Greek and the inner part Turkish?Or will they go for the most historical approach and calculate it as 65-70% Greek 20%Turkish 10-15%Armenian? And what of the Balkans?Will Bosnian exist as a culture?Will Croatians Serbians and Montenegrins be a different culture?The nost historical would probably be to make a small distinction between Orthodoxs and Catholics but what will Paradox do?Will Albanian continue being in the South Slavic culture group for some reason?If not,are Albanians going to be split or will they all just be Albanian? What's gonna happen in the Bulgarian region?Is the coast going to be portrayed as Bulgarian or more historically accurate as Greek?Will Paradox make Dobruja and Vardarska Bulgarian(as is accurate historically)? Are Vlachs gonna be included?If they are,will they be in their own group?Or in the Byzantine group?Or(most absurdly)in the Carpathian one?

[@kiss-shotacerola-orionhear220]

Почему на карте языков выделяют каких-то три диалекта, в то время их быть не могло попросту, ну может кроме Новгородского