Peaceful Watcher: Is He Watching You?

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[@NightMind]

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[@eldark7883]

Love you, interdimensional Garfield

[@adenentertainment7365]

Did I see your hand in the video

[@quantum5661]

mate its 4 am, please stop encouraging us to sleep less

[@car0ndelet]

Peaceful Watcher was completely ruined by the Judge and that plot line. The face reveal could have survived by being that twist that makes the Watcher even more disturbing. Because he seems like a harmless every man when he’s clearly not. But the Judge business is really pure garbage.

[@lucyinchat]

@@car0ndelet I 100% disagree.

[@emmawollam4464]

in the first half, I was hoping for a "stalker finds out his victims actually kill people and now wants to record their crimes to report to police" type deal, especially with the bit about the rental car and strange behavior the victims present.

[@ReAgentMusic_]

Rear window style?

[@emmawollam4464]

@@ReAgentMusic_Yeah, basically Rear Window but with more mobility and less obvious stalking lol

[@tobysinbad]

I wish the Watcher had had a more explicit addiction (and some of the warranted self-loathing to go with it), so in going back over and over witness several important murder clues he’d be forced to come clean to a “friend” in attempt to keep them safe. If I wrote it, he’d chicken out, go to vlog about it stupidly nearby and be confronted and humiliated then idk. Murdered on the way home, at his absolute lowest from having his delusion of friendship crushed by one of his attractive victims lol

[@Penut63]

This reads as a student film with two writers. One writer had an idea that they were both excited about, but a sort of fundemental misunderstanding between the two. One wanted I speration, the other wanted imitation.

[@notreal5826]

It feels less like it started with 2 writers and more like the original one either lost track of where it was originally going or a second writer took over in the middle of it

[@MrStatistx]

It was 1 person, you can search for "making of peaceful watcher" and find a video

[@wrightblan1501]

I think that’s the best description of “Hiding in My Home” I’ve ever heard. 😀

[@FFKonoko]

​@@MrStatistx it can still feel that way. The description accurately gets across the slightly confused feeling direction, the ideas not quite..meshing.

[@tempbauer2131]

I don’t think strangers approach someone taking photos or videos of other strangers and ask them if they’re filming. All the acting is horrible and the judge character is ridiculous. Normally, I’ll go watch the original if it’s not too scary. However, I think this is the first time I won’t watch bc looks too crap. Edit: it’s the 2nd time. The 1st time was the guy that met with someone over margaritas and i think his uncle was a bad guy and wanted him to follow.... I can’t remember the name of the project but I’m pretty sure NM is the one that reviewed it

[@didgeridont777]

This series makes me want to see a series made from the perspective of a stalker but their victims are participating in a more cliche unfiction series. Getting the outside perspective of some creep while the people he stalks are dealing with some kind of operator/slendy scenario. Like, the victims start freaking out cause their boogeyman is doing something spoooky and the stalker gets all nervous thinking that he's been found out or something. Idk I think it could make for a funny meta-type thing for the genre.

[@creed8712]

I always thought a “rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead” style project revolving around this sorta of Unfuction stuff would be pretty cool to see

[@teenageparasite322]

This is actually a great idea

[@CasulMaus]

Oh this would be a fun sendup of some of the sillier unfiction tropes

[@besthobbit]

Yeeessss

[@TheAstip]

Honestly it's where i thought this was going at the very start..

[@serrafanclub63]

When "the court" was introduced I started feeling like this was just a second season of a tv show introducing the "new and cool" antagonist

[@SpaceCore2053]

Like a Foop?

[@tableclothninja]

death note moment

[@foxyfoxington2651]

Nothing's cooler than an antagonist named "The Stenographer".

[@Hadeshy]

Right?!

[@moosenman]

@@foxyfoxington2651 Scariest fucking thing I’ve ever seen

[@chaseleedaleno6823]

this becomes funnier when you imagine this with out the Judge and just make it a series of vlogs by a guy who sucks at stalking

[@foxyfoxington2651]

Especially the part with the taser.

[@Ari-rm9xw]

Thats what I'm doing lol so much better that way

[@eldritchinsomniac]

I'm just gonna say it, the judge's eyes and hoodie make him look like a frat boy, and it's so hard to take it seriously. addendum: Jalapeno the cat and Clayton are the best characters.

[@ethanspivey8890]

The judge looks like a nerd, and is not scary at all

[@entirelybonkers8832]

To be fair there’s a lot of murderers and wannabe killers that are just frat boy types

[@project8productions368]

Then there's the people who actually look like convincing killers but don't act that way at all. 🤣

[@kingofravens215]

I’m just glad jalapeño is okay honestly that cat is the only character I care about

[@eizeldin25]

Same

[@rinpaisys]

Right? I was like “hey man, the cat is innocent in all this. Sure beat the creep up, but leave the cat out of this.”

[@DARKSTONE999]

Yeah is he carrying her with him while on the run or abandoned her like like an asshole ? She deserves nice forever home

[@chuco915C]

Awesome name for a cat.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Cats are poo

[@FlashNeko417]

I have to say, I laughed at the image of our big hulking serial killer in an all covering hoodie and mask wearing the smallest, tightest bike shorts possible. It raises the question: Were you filming ALL your videos without any pants on, Judge?

[@DeadHatzGuy]

He refused to wear pants in Texas heat and he loves those bike shorts. As much as I wanted him to wear pants he wouldn’t budge on it

[@flamingjockeys]

That was so wildly jarring to me. It's hilarious that I immediately recognized that it was Clayton that murdered Jesse because of his huge ass legs and tight shorts. WHO WEARS BIKE SHORTS TO A MURDER PARTY I DONT GET IT

[@foxyfoxington2651]

@@flamingjockeys Somebody who just wants to be comfortable.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@flamingjockeys Depends if it's a homosexual murder party I suppose

[@kevintan4603]

@@DeadHatzGuy Clayton is hot

[@colorphone5154]

this just seems like the natural evolution of a child staring directly at you, no they havent grown up, but they sure have changed their method

[@groobs]

eeeooof

[@SonOfaChipwich]

Yknow im glad there are more lower-quality unfic projects happening. A high volume of meh projects means a scene has a lot of people who are excited about it and want to give it a try, regardless of experience level, and that makes it more likely that really inspired stuff will be made.

[@virahpayam]

Agreed! I love seeing people who are excited and willing to try something new 😃 I think this series presented some good ideas that can definitely be built up and improved on in future projects.

[@TyphlosionGirl]

Actually yeah, same

[@emirlsanchos6302]

Reminds of Alan Moore's advice to budding writers. Suggesting they read BAD writing in addition to quality writing. Because they'll think to themselves "I can write this shit!"

[@manformerlypigbukkit]

@Emirl Sanchos I actually do this more often than I read good shit. Does it muddy up my own writing due to my influence being more bad than good? Definitely, but it gives me the confidence to say I have the ability to write because I can see glaring flaws and issues in other works, and can rewrite them to (at the very least) make more sense within the given context. I have a folder of about a hundred .txts of certain scenes from books, movies, and (mostly) games that all just rewrite scenes into ways that fit better into the story or make more contextual sense, and it feels great to say “what I just made is probably better” lol

[@danielwalker8133]

Besides, everyone needs to start somewhere and this series, for all its problems, has a lot of promise

[@mommilph]

When you first brought up how unoriginal the Judge's mask was, I was thinking, "Someone should try to do something creative with one of those customizable LED masks", and then my heart sank as the brown-haired woman showed up with one, BUT it was using the default preset built into the mask with the Xs for eyes and toothy grin. So many areas where a little bit of extra creativity would've gone a long way.

[@SetrinSkyheart]

I think you laughing at unsympathetic characters reaping the consequences of their actions is my new favorite thing.

[@BaneKeldare]

Ah, and as to your mid-video question: As soon as I saw "The Judge" I rolled my eyes and groaned so, so hard. This was a character that didn't need to be shown, didn't need to be seen. Just experienced through the character we're already following. But no, they had to "ToTheArk" it, to coin a term. He's this series' ToTheArk, or that...whatever society that was following the guy around in Tribe Twelve, just...an antagonist that shows up with cryptic messages poorly scrawled on something with the quality of a 3rd grade art project. Edit: Ah, you called him ToTheArk too, nice. xD

[@ProfessorRetro1976]

I thought the same the judge really needed to not even been revealed to the end, revealing the judge that early was not the best

[@timrosswood4259]

You mean The Collective?

[@skyty0]

Not trying to be too harsh, but his accent and tone of voice made me laugh. He's supposed to be this edgy, intimidating character but just looks and sounds like one of my cousins or something lmao

[@teslafreak]

Yeah, ruins things pretty much instantly. Quite a shame. Fear of the unknown is woefully under-used.

[@Axelsrose]

Honestly MH did this so much better with TTA. At least it was actually creepy and intimidating. But this guy.. honestly I was just so bored watching even the clips Nick put in. How could something based on actually good series be so.. boring????

[@Claymarrows]

Phenomenal how they took a genuinely cool concept, i.e: Seeing something horrible unfold from the perspective of someone else doing something horrible; and turned it into the corniest most milkwater unfiction piece. There's definitely potential in this but it just goes and decides to be extremely corny partway through and gets rid of the really good concepts it had going for it.

[@TheRPGNerd]

yeah i wouldve loved a series where like. the stalker catches one of their "friends" doing some horrible thing, like murder or something, and has to wrestle with that

[@sambeckettcat]

The inclusion of the scientists at the beginning made it feel to me that the Watchers were gonna turn out to be something not human, but then they kinda got tossed out and never got mentioned again.

[@gsamov]

i literally died reading this comment when i got to the "milkwater unfiction piece" part

[@targaghjj]

You mean milquetoast?

[@stardustorchard9316]

Yeah. I mean it started tanking on the 'are you playing the game' and then like. I lost all interest when he denied the stalking (that chick catches him). Because the concept of him just being a naieve childlike person/creature who thinks they're his friend wouldn't have denied filming them. Denying it shows guilt and an understanding of wrong doing. Which just makes him an edgy stalker

[@ame72813]

This was actually good until the Judge introduced himself, what a shame to see what couldve been a cold case murder mystery ARG turn into "bad man will fin u and go stab stab". Also Luis swearing and stuff instead of being mentally devastated that his "friend" is insulting him and calling him a weirdo in the car scene really broke the immersion.

[@ennui_u9352]

It'd be so much more interesting if this series was more of a voyeuristic thriller where the stalker learns some kind of dark secret or connection between their victims, or maybe they even already knew about that stuff to begin with, hence why they were being stalked in the first place. Look, I'm no writer, but that'd be something kinda new or different to the online storytelling formula at least.

[@DPSFSU]

Like Saw but for stalking. If done well, I think I'd be down with that.

[@artistaro5335]

I honestly agree with you, my biggest problem with the series is that Louis just isn't a satisfying protagonist, giving him something actually good to do, like stopping murders would have made it a bit better because then its more."he is fucked up but means well" which I thought they were going for but the further the story goes on the more unlikable he becomes xD

[@MrLegendofLP]

Based on a comment on this video *by* the creator of this ARG, Luis is supposed to be the antagonist. Unfortunately, it wasn’t well executed and is just kind of milquetoast.

[@gretchen8100]

Go watch One Hour Photo, it's very much like that. And Robin Williams is brilliant in it

[@aspookyspookcrab6253]

the series could've been good if it wasnt bogged down by the god awful storytelling, masked person shit, and the acting. it has some genuinely good moments and i love those moments. the good is great but the bad is awful.

[@gretchen8100]

It definitely ran into second act problems 😆

[@melons7747]

The acting, even the simple dialogue & no visuals - awful. Yikes. This shit went sideways very quickly.

[@rileyquest]

I feel like the face reveal part could have gone so much better had they done a seperate channel where Luis just uploads Volgs of his life outside of being a stalker - or an intagram or twitter where he can talk as him - not as The Peaceful Watcher. Could have had a much larger disconnect too. If he really has a child-like mind, this would have been explainable that he never thought that someone would make the connection between the two accounts.

[@chymos6628]

Some of the downright baffling choices in this make me think of My Dad's Tapes, but without the same depths of hilarious awfulness that a Damn Good Margarita provides.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

That’s a damn good margarita

[@iriscentasbizzareshitpost6243]

37:49 the moment where he just looses his shit and HAS to laugh, I love it, I felt the same, Peaceful watcher is very edgy and bad, but it has potential, whoever its creator is shouldnt be told they did something terrible or great, but a first step, they have potential as a creator.

[@beepboop9712]

Loses not looses

[@caittails]

Here's the story I would have gone with, having heard this whole thing: Get rid of most of it. Obviously. START where this person's "friend" died - or maybe not even a friend, maybe a person died in a weird way and somehow this guy got obsessed with it - and it was a trigger to start stalking the family members and loved ones of that person who died. Have our protagonist be this person who is so delusional that he thinks he's coping with his grief in a healthy way and relating to the people he's stalking. Throw out the "judge" nonsense and just have it be these people slowly realizing they're being stalked and dealing with the fear that brings. The scary part of it could be our guy starting to try to communicate with them, maybe sneaking into their houses to find memories of the person who died, real things like that. I want to feel some real cognitive dissonance between the positive words he feeds us and the awful actions we see him take. It's fine to do an unreliable narrator with this main character presenting himself as good even though we know he's bad, but he needs his comeuppance in a LOGICAL and satisfying way. I mean, for sure tase him eventually, but earn it in a way other than "Man, this dude's an annoying asshole."

[@KrissyBlues]

So like, early on into the series it presents the idea that stalkers are commonplace in the town and the different subsects of them imply that it's a cultural norm within that community for these groups to organize, coupled with Luis referring to Josh as if he's complicit in this. I feel like the series would've went a lot better if it explored the pipeline a niche subculture like this causes. Luis would start off as a "Peaceful Watcher", who is fascinated by this objectionable thing but keeps it under the pretense of a moral code, and then gets absorbed in this community of likeminded watchers who are going much farther than him and pressure him into escalation. It could even potentially go full in with the "watching a horror story from the POV of the monster" angle by making him do incredibly reprehensible actions like breaking into the homes of his victims or even kidnapping one at the encouragement of other "watchers". The plotline of Luis himself having a stalker could even be kept, but it would be so much better if his stalker was someone inspired by his youtube who's become obsessed with Luis because the parasocial nature of watching his videos on youtube is producing much the same feelings as Luis' stalking of his victims. So, so many layers upon layers of commentary could be provided from a point of view this distorted and unique, it's such a shame almost none of it is used past the first act.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

I do feel at times like I "Dropped the Ball" on this series, but I don't regret making it and am proud of it. Thank you for your interest in my little series. Seeing all the different ways people see this series could've went is very cool to read.

[@rampagingFurniture]

the sinking feeling i had when the judge turned up, this felt like such an interesting characters piece up to that moment... doesn't help that his monologue feels like it lasts forever

[@melasn9836]

This is probably the worst thing since My Dad's Tapes, and even then, this doesn't have any damn fine margaritas. The moment the Judge & his Spirit of Halloween mask showed up, any potential of a potentially interesting Rear Window variant went flying out the window. I now want a series from the POV of Jalapeno. "My owner was a weird creep, and then this other guy who actually remembered to feed me took me in."

[@RoanRetro]

Being an overnight worker hasn't ever felt this good! Thanks Nick!

[@totallyarealdoctor6498]

Same, mate!

[@dizzle9638]

Not if your an aussie, lol

[@DeadHatzGuy]

lol same

[@Vigamaniac]

It was actually Clayton that got tased, if you slow down the footage around the time Luis bumps into Clayton you can see Clayton wearing white shoes, and if you slow the video again around the time you see a person on the floor after being tased, you see the same white shoes, and the person wearing black shoes is the one that runs away, which is Luis.

[@toxicdotaep2890]

this just makes me wanna do some inspired-by series about a stalker who becomes stalked and realizes firsthand how godawful it feels. maybe the protagonist stalker is legit just a weirdo who cant make friends normally and is this starved for human contact, but the stalker they pick up is much less kind...

[@virahpayam]

Sounds like Killing Stalking

[@lozey8317]

A long time ago I had a supposed ''friend'' who was feeding information about me back to a guy who sexually assaulted me because she thought he was innocent and wanted to give him ammunition against me in the upcoming police case. About 3 months later, by random chance, she acquired a sexual stalker. Luckily she wasn't hurt, but it was a good case of karma. I also had a stalker for about a year that I called the police and they investigated. He claimed that I was ''bullying'' him and seemed to legit believe it. All the while sending me r**e and death threats. He was so stupid that one day he sent me a blackmail letter containing his name, address and bank details saying he would stop the threats if I paid him. And he *signed* it by hand, with his own signature hahahahaha. The police had a field day with that letter

[@HarveyMidnight]

I agree with you, in that 'the Judge' is a really weak premise. The "Judge" should have been a mysterious presence whose face we never see, whose voice we never hear... not even with a mask and audio filters, and who never even gives himself a title or name. He should have never appeared in first person onscreen... the death threats were unnecessary; I think it would have been scary enough, for some unseen presence to just leave small, creepy, but obvious 'breadcrumbs' that make it clear that he is stalking Luis from the shadows. BUT, I honestly think Luis choosing to show his face isn't a bad choice. I think the idea of the 'stalker who ends up a stalking victim' is a pretty clever idea... I can imagine Luis continuing to watch people, believing HIS actions are harmless... so he doesn't even think he might get in much trouble, if he were caught; so he happily shows his face, as if to say to 'the judge' that., "Unlike you, I'm not hiding, I'm not ashamed"-- Utterly unable to grasp that he *should* be ashamed.

[@MystearicaClaws]

I always feel bad about my reactions to some unfiction. I'm still fairly new to the genre (mostly thanks to you), so the jankiness, and suspension of disbelief are a real struggle for me. I recognize the layers of creativity behind them, and admire the efforts in many. But then the story or the acting falls flat for me, and I just can't get into it. Your feelings of the judge are exactly how I was feeling. The mask, the movements, etc, were just so.... counterintuitive to how the story was trying to present him. The watcher really felt like someone with a neurodivergency that kinda knew his actions were not acceptable, but really didn't see the harm they would cause. The lack of self-awareness, should have stayed only with Luis, but instead, the Judge, and other characters are at that same level, making me think this is not a character issue, but a creator issue.

[@weekndinbrooklyn]

Yeah, i agree with you. I thought the concept was good but the execution fell flat, and as soon as the judge was introduced, the immersion was over for me. The acting/story on this one simply wasn't for me.

[@wohdinhel]

The thing about unfiction projects is that they are virtually always extremely small in scale, in terms of production/moving parts (often the overwhelming majority of content is starring, filmed and produced by ONE person), and as such, the project really needs to be designed around the creative strengths of the individual(s) running it, instead of trying to do things that other people have already done better. This is clearly an example of a creator NOT centering their unique strengths in the project.

[@pokelover3602]

*nonfiction

[@shingledclown4921]

@@pokelover3602 "Unfiction describes fictional stories and artistic works that present to be real." Non Fiction implies that it is in fact real.

[@invalid_420]

@@pokelover3602 that's literally what nonfiction means

[@ZackBunofficial]

It felt good for Luis to finally learn a lesson when Clayton put him on the pavement, just to have that satisfaction snatched away when I realized it was Clayton on the ground after getting tazed instead, O_o

[@ForteUltimus]

37:47 I don't think I ever heard you laugh that hard in a video, before. What an unintentional joy it was, to hear.

[@satyrprince9598]

This is kind of a silly critique to make, but I couldn't help but be completely taken out of it whenever Luis would curse while speaking to people face to face. I think his original presentation as so childlike and guileless had me thinking he'd act a certain way irl, and when he didn't it's all I was concentrating on. It could have been a cool little character beat to have him speak to others like he does to his video audience, but as it was performed it just felt like there was an unintentional disconnect between the two. Obviously not the series' biggest problem, just one that felt like a pretty obvious missed opportunity :/

[@naul6882]

Yeah it would've been cool if he was more childlike in his interactions as it would deepen his delusions by showing how it's a game

[@EnterTheMorg]

Oh, I absolutely felt that as well! It was incredibly jarring.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

I was cursing like a sailor by third grade lol...

[@adam.n-steve]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 Well, there is a difference between a third-grade student and a man acting like he's in third grade.

[@adam.n-steve]

I have a feeling that something caused him to be unable to grow up. This really gives off parents who cuddle and trap their kids too much that the only way for them to make "friends" is by playing pretend on strangers while stalking them.

[@lefe8746]

tbh i feel like it's a missed chance to watch the usual stories we see in webseries but from a outside looking in perspective. Imagine trying to make sense of whatever is happening to them together with him, only to a lot later him getting roped into it for being too curious, and we have a good old "the curiosity killed the cat".

[@washipuppy]

Also, if we're going with a Stalker!Town, have a reason why so many stalkers?

[@RainWelsh]

Well, now I really want this. Like a Slenderverse Classic series, told from the perspective of Guy Who Lives Next To The Woods. People keep running screaming through his yard, his electricity sometimes randomly shuts off for hours at a time, he finds weird notes stapled to trees that are *on his goddamn property*, and some of the things he hears Those Damn Kids talking about these days are seriously freaky.

[@Evilmon2]

@@RainWelsh "Oh hidy-ho officer, we've had a doozy of a day. There we were minding our own business, just doing chores around the house, when kids started killing themselves all over my property."

[@washipuppy]

@@RainWelsh It's Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil, but for a Slender-style Series.

[@cheshirethehatter3]

I do agree I think a series where we follow a stalker whose proud of it and starts to uncover story lines from the people he watches could have been so interesting. They could have had a moment where they reveal the twitter handles (or something like that) of one of the victims and then we as the audience have to decide whether we try and warn them or not say anything so we can keep watching. And then if there was this second stalker character too, that could have really added something, like you said we see the Watcher get a task of his own medicine. Side note I love that Clayton is only mad about being stalked because the camera's cheap- he wants a stalker who puts more effort in to thier set up apparently. Also also when Nightmind laughs I picture him as a rich aunt drinking wine

[@aliencafe]

The second I saw "The Judge" I had to pause the video to sigh in disappointment at this project. It had such an interesting start, dammit! This was a fun video nonetheless, I love watching you dissect these stories that end up not working at all.

[@femmeadonis]

this project feels a lot like the amateur ‘short films’ i used to make with friends to pass time over the summer. the execution isn’t great, but the story has good bones and there’s obviously been a lot of love put into it. you can really tell that the people behind this had a lot of fun making it, and, as a fellow creative, i love to see that. a lot of people get so caught up in making their work ‘good’ that they lose the passion that should be driving them and end up making lifeless, hollow work. personally, i MUCH prefer a series like this that’s fun despite being cliche/campy/kind of bad to something technically perfect but otherwise stiff.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

It was extraordinarily fun to make, I enjoyed it 100% through even through the more stressful bits

[@z-beeblebrox]

As jank as it was, I do appreciate that they stayed true to their creep-o main character, and had him refuse to learn his lesson no matter what, to the point of literally stalking people while being given death threats from someone who knows who he is. That's exactly the sort of compulsive behavior I'd expect from someone like that. It's just too bad it was wrapped in so much cheese. That said, I feel like it would've probably felt more cohesive if so many parts of the series hadn't been lost to bit-rot/privated videos. Doubt it would help the cheese, but it would've at least made more sense.

[@IOrganiseContentUK]

Your comments about creators taking hiatuses and completing their projects in a timely manner exactly encapsulates my feelings about the direction of the Dad ARG. It's been going for over 2 years now and there seems to be no end in sight. Although there are regular uploads to the channel, it's nothing related to the ARG plot lines. Ever since iDubbbz creator clash boxing event was announced it's just been about that/ Matt Watson/ other sporting events. I know that Dad's ultimate goal is to be the best KZbinr, but I certainly hope we don't have to wait for him to be number 1 in sub count or something for that bc holy crap will this project ever end in that case? I know it's not related to this ARG, but what you said really made me think about that. I hope that the Dad ARG actually sees an end sometime soon.

[@austinsmith7731]

I thought the unfiction part kind of Dad ended with him going bqck to his home planet? Like he got replaced by Dadbot and now its just like whatever. Is there still a story going on?

[@IcedSynergy]

I swear that Dad is going to incorperate the boxing events into his ARG.

[@billhart3728]

Agreed on shows and stories having an end. Too many stories go on too long

[@NightMind]

Believe me when I say, I've got a big bag of thoughts about that.

[@caittails]

@@NightMind And we would all love that bag to be opened 😂

[@MrStatistx]

Luis tased Clayton, not the other way around. Also Judge was not caught, Judge was not Juan/Joy/CCK. That was a fluke and is similar to how the obvious guy seems to be the killer in every movie.

[@joshhale9355]

Thank you for also catching that, you can tell by the clothes and who’s writhing on the ground.

[@seekerstheshy3842]

Was it ever established Luis had a taser before this? Cuz it really comes out of nowhere. I'm still not sure you're correct in who tazed who cuz the whole thing was off camera

[@MrStatistx]

@@seekerstheshy3842 no no, I KNOW it was like that. Not sure if he said it on Twitter or in the comments or a hidden video, but it was definitely said. It also comes into play later again

[@MrStatistx]

@@seekerstheshy3842 oh yeah and Clayton lies on the floor afterwards which would make no sense otherwise, cause he beat the shit out of Luis and without the tqser he would not have been able to recover

[@TheGoodMorty]

@@MrStatistx Exactly, it makes no sense that Clayton would be walking away with the camera, and the footage was still in Luis's possession

[@miss-sagemoon]

For how overdone this stylizing is, I think the idea of someone who is considered bad in most stories being hunted by worse people is a good idea

[@EudoxiaMysteries]

Crazy, didn't expect this one.

[@pingas2467]

Rufous

[@groobs]

ayyyo you're one of my new favs eudoxia 💗👍😍

[@PumpyGT]

That's crazy.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

Oh hi Eudoxia! You were one of the first guys to cover the series. Much appreciated as usual

[@rayh6118]

Look who is here

[@RainWelsh]

Oof, the comparison to Just Acquaintances is harsh, but fair. The first time Observer-By-Way-Of-Masky showed up I rolled my eyes so hard I saw the inside of my skull. And it was going so well. Also, 37:58 - always nice to hear you laugh! “He tased his ass good” killed me

[@Slop_Dogg]

ah this started to go downhill disappointingly. it had an interesting premise, but just seemed to stumble into more & more bad cliches, missing & ignored information, convoluted/meandering progression, unconvincing acting & plot. it just sort of never meets its full potential.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

_Peace Watcher_ sounds like it could've been a great name for a 60s music band.

[@BasketChase98]

This series is the only work of fiction I’ve ever seen that perfectly recreates the emotional experience of discovering Chris Chan and going down that rabbit hole for the first time. I feel like the cringey “Judge” character is meant to be an ironic twist on the kind of people who see themselves as the “protagonist” in this situation, taking themselves way too seriously with flowery, over-worded prose in their monologues about how they’re going to exact righteous judgement on our quasi-anti-villain. So our protagonist is a bad guy and our bad guy sees himself as a protagonist, and both of them are equally insane. I’d be willing to bet the string of murders are completely unrelated to the “judge” guy and he’s just larping and trying to “game-jack” whatever is actually going on there. That would be an amazing twist that would be in line with the subversions of genre we’ve seen thus far.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

You're half right actually! I didn't have the foresight to really think of the judge as an ironic twist type villain as I made him as someone who's judgement was blinded by their need for vengeance. He is a person who knows who he hates, and feels justified and therefore does think he is 100% in the right, but as I stated before he is blinded by his need for vengeance. And you are correct the murders were completed by a third party, and not the Judge or his "Court" And the Judge blamed both Luis and the original killer "Joy" for the murder of Hector. As much as I enjoyed the creation and writing for Peaceful Watcher I can't help but feel as if I "dropped the ball" overall. But I don't regret its creation one bit. Thank you for your interest in the series!

[@elmfao1824]

It could have been such a power shift for one of the stalking victims to "unmask" Luis to his audience. I found myself hoping Clayton would do it during the physical altercation to continue the hunter becomes hunted storyline that was so present. Then, we could get the juxtaposition of seeing the human behind the camera without the disbelief that he would share his face and full government name while committing crimes.

[@4shotpastas]

I feel like this series is a testament to why pantsing rarely works for story focused args. Unless you're great at setting up random elements you'll figure out later, it will come out jumbled and unfocused. This one started out with great potential, but the moment I saw that dude's mask, I just went "oh boy."

[@4shotpastas]

Ending wasn't bad, but the buildup to it was disappointing to say the least

[@bradleyallen6883]

Dude, I'm sorry. I tried getting through this but I couldn't build any interest. I definitely commend efforts to put your creative interest out there, along with actually putting in the work. If I could communicate anything to the creator/s, it would be to see what has been done in unfiction, ARGs, Analog horror, etc. and why the best ones work. There are a many boring or uninspired attempts out there that it should be easy to tell why those failed.

[@Emma88178]

That's definitely why Nick made this video, to criticize the issues with it and what went wrong.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

Working overnight and feeling tired and this woke me me up quicker than any of the caffeine in my system. I feel faint like I’m going to pass out. Still can’t believe you covered my series

[@buck_mar2319]

Congrats!!!

[@DeadHatzGuy]

Nick you gotta be one of the first viewers I’ve seen who views Luis as the antagonist which was my intention. I love all the criticisms and appreciate it greatly and I hope to improve in my future endeavors. I loved the video thank you so much.

[@SB-uk5wx]

​@@DeadHatzGuy peaceful watcher was so interactive and entertaining. So many fun moments of excitement and suspense. poor Nick missed all the fun, lol. Congratulations on your creation ❤️👏👏👏

[@SpaceCore2053]

This was a ride, to say the least. Thanks for letting me enjoy that incredible hour of my life!

[@alejandromiguelcespedes5101]

@@DeadHatzGuy One thing, Luis isn't the antagonist because we see the story from his perspective. That would make him the protagonist/main character. An antagonist is a character that opposes the protagonist, that means the Judge in this case. Villain would fit better.

[@virahpayam]

Kudos to the people behind this project! It takes a lot of courage and effort to put together this kind of unfiction, and put it on the internet for everyone to critique. Most people never even get that far 🤷🏽‍♀️ Main critique: show, don't tell. A lot of the exposition could have been delivered in more visually interesting and engaging ways that really would have gone a long way to draw the audience in and create more buy in. Potential Improvements: I would have loved to see the idea of the "guilty bystander" explored in more depth. Using the audiences disdain for the watcher could have been a powerful critique of cowardice and exemplify the idea that evil isn't just "doing bad", but also failing to do good. I think this project had some good foundational pieces, but just lacked a nuanced understanding of visual storytelling, narrative structure, and a clear purpose/message/direction.

[@kafkacrow6727]

I have to say, as soon as I saw the judge show up, I thought the twist was going be that this was a self aware joke (similar to how Everyman Hybrid started) and then an actual twist would happen. Turns out the twist was that they were serious, thought they had created a credible villain and that people would like it.

[@cjsweirdworld6343]

I honestly wanted luis to just be the killer in the end. Like it would've made sense to my brain, seeing into the mind of a twisted serial killer through his mo from his own perspective.

[@Jayozranger]

hey.. caught this 8 seconds after it dropped, not even got the bell on lmao

[@royalcrumble2384]

The court felt like when the anime hero defeats a villain and they reveal they're just the weakest member of their previously- unmentioned organization

[@El.Levo77]

The creepiest and most concerning part of this series is that one "Renjestooo" guy that comments the same Wall of admiring Text under each Video. I think we might have a serious Stalker in the making there

[@christianolsson9004]

I think the fact that he almost always comments the same thing kinda breaks the case for Renjestooo being for real

[@AveryCreates]

No one's first few projects are perfect. Looking forward to future content from this creator.

[@DeadHatzGuy]

Thank you

[@North_Nebula]

I had to do three double takes. One for the notification, one for what time it was, and the last one for how long the video was. Luckily for me, my sleep schedule is already horrendous, so going to bed at around 5 am is not surprising for me.

[@groobs]

same but it'll be like 7 am unfortunately but luckily I'm not due to work til the later PM 👍

[@clownhours-7715]

Oh boy! A 4am nightmind video, this is gonna be some nice night terrors.

[@baronstriker8378]

A nice thing to listen to while sleeping

[@SignedGraph499]

Hahaha wrong it’s 6:07 pm (for me here in Australia)

[@kylejohnson423]

Thing to keep me up during night shift.

[@TacticalDumbass]

"Oh boy, 3 AM!"

[@ollieVR970]

@@SignedGraph499 actually wrong its 6:36 PM (for me here in Australia)

[@Callyn9x]

I think Nick slipped up with regards to Luiz being the one that got tased. No message of Clayton taking his camera, and the one curled up on the ground looked to have been wearing Clayton's clothes (granted, we didn't see what Luiz was wearing), my guess is Clayton got tased... Hell, makes more sense that way as to how the video got uploaded in the first place. Since if Clayton took the phone, the video could NOT get uploaded at all, and the one to grab the phone was the one to run off...

[@vinnyc365]

You're correct, Clayton was the one who got tased.

[@Anton-de5vu]

The second I saw the judge I was like “uuuh, nick, did you accident put some footage of another video in here?” Like, these two ideas could maybe work, but not together. The idea of following a disturbed man partaking in a “victimless” crime is interesting in its own

[@jadethunderhoof288]

Alright, I have exactly an hour before I have to get ready for work and here you are uploading. You know your audience well.

[@asecretone]

You get up that early before work?! Hot damn!

[@franziskavonkarma7390]

I’m lucky that I stayed up late tonight! This is worth a little sleep deprivation.

[@olfersisapotato8970]

Ah a fellow sleep deprived individual.

[@Mauripsu]

Oh, you foolish fool!

[@annabella1650]

The best solution to this would’ve been to focus on the whole “sitting back and watching a crime is crime” thing. Having a villain protagonist gradually getting what they deserve, and seeing the process from their point of view would’ve been interesting.

[@charredeggroll1967]

I actually think it was Luis who tased Clayton, hence why he couldn't get up off the floor and didn't chase after Luis. I also like the message this series brings that it's not just women and children who can easily fall victim to stalking but it's also men too~

[@athausanddollahs1209]

8:03 IRL this would get you slapped with restraining order, wellness check, or an arrest warrant

[@sheriffopossum]

The taser part and you losing your shit was 👏👏 I feel like this series honestly did pretty well on how much we the audience really didn't like the main character. You know you did something good when everyone hates you, and not from poor acting. Love your stuff, it makes my days at work so much better! 💛

[@DeadHatzGuy]

I’m glad I was able to achieve a dislike for Luis, although the audience is split some people love the character while others dislike. It’s fascinating stuff

[@KatKit52]

I think it could have been a cool concept to have the audience watching the "peaceful watcher" filming his victims, and the story that unfolds is us watching the victims figure out who their stalker is from the stalker's perspective. Sort of a reverse of the usual stalker stories, where instead of the question being "who is stalking me", the question is "how will they find the stalker". ETA: And bringing in the second stalker who stalks the watcher, then you could have questions like "is this stalker working with the victims to give the watcher a taste of his own medicine? Is this stalker a former victim of the watcher?" Also, maybe expand upon that bit on the flyer we saw that discussed different types of stalkers: given than "peaceful watcher" is its own sub-type on the flyer, that means there must be enough of a community of peaceful watchers to have their own noticeable differences from other stalkers. ETA2: Maybe even continue the theme of "if you're witnessing something wrong and don't say anything, you are complicit" *to the audience*. After all, we are watching along with the watcher. Why should the audience's own hypocrisy go unpunished?

[@hilotakenaka]

Is this the unfiction equivalent of a drug addiction? Every time the MC seems to be in a good place to quit his habit, he comes back to it

[@ParadoxParado]

I will say that the premise was actually interesting. Following a weirdo as they stalk people is a interesting one that could get you into the head space of people that do this kind of stuff. The whole Judge thing is where stuff goes off the rails and falls in a ditch. Even with the Clayton reveal it still doesn't work. So he deemed Luis guilty for accomplice to Hector's murder and then decides to kill him. Then why the trials and the story time? It seems he held genuine hatred for the murder of his brother so why not torment Luis until the end? Even on the idea of torture it doesn't make much sense since a better torture for Luis would be killing those he saw as his "friends" like in the later attack on George. Which causes a weird mix of emotion when Clayton is beating on Luis. Knowing that Clayton essentially killed George, a victim in all of this just to cause Luis pain. It feels like a way to draw a comparison of Clayton and Luis. In they both are murders for selfish reasons. With Luis for his inaction in fear of his own wellbeing to Clayton's action in pursuit of harming Luis emotionally. So when the beating happens I don't feel any catharsis of watching Luis get beat just the feeling of one bad guy hitting another. In the end The Judge is still a murdering psycho and the reveal of it being Clayton just gives him an actual motivation outside of "likes to murder" Still doesn't make him anymore interesting however.

[@suddenlypineapples5169]

Wonderful video to watch while I'm the only one awake

[@babygrl337]

NM - I’ve been a fan of yours for quite some time, and I must say: it’s delightful to see you becoming more and more discerning of unfiction over the years. As this form of storytelling becomes more and more popular, I really appreciate you being honest with your critiques. This genre is inherently interesting - so the storytelling is almost MORE important due to that. Because people are almost automatically intrigued by this format, it takes that much more to keep us engaged after the initial peak interest. Kudos for keeping your many eyes sharp as unfiction continues to gain popularity and change.

[@blaiserrie]

"I will never watch women & children." maaaaan he sounds like a Chad, he's so considerate of who he's being friends with

[@matttalkss]

Very glad you made a video on this one Nick. Love to see some more obscure series covered on the channel :D

[@KushWizard_BO-085]

today is my 21st birthday and while I'm getting drunk and stoned, you release another video. perfect timing! I love watching your videos when I'm drunk lol

[@Slop_Dogg]

happy birthday buddy! enjoy it! i’m hitting 30 & my god the hangovers get worse. have a good one!

[@nicholassloan5715]

Wow so cool, you're gonna get drunk & stoned!!! I'm so glad you needed to share that to the world.

[@HELLF1RE9]

The twist of the stalker noticing someone stalking him is so incredibly sweet. I agree with you on the goofy villain part that was a disappointment

[@DPSFSU]

Luis tased Clayton. That's why Clayton was on the ground and Luis was able to run after getting his ass beat.

[@mayuzumiis]

There's something oddly comforting about watching your videos at night when I can't sleep and hearing you tell me to sleep tight.

[@allyouracid]

I've had so much fun watching the scene where you laughed about him getting tased. I almost fell from the chair, honestly. Your videos are one of a kind, I enjoy them so much!

[@thetiniestleaf]

About halfway through the video when you asked the question about how we’re feeling… yeah. God I can SEE the potential here. This could’ve been a real fun way where the watchers almost become the bad guys themselves. Where we’re sympathizing with a creep until the rug is pulled out from us. I saw that on Twitter you confirmed this either was like JustAcquaintances or it had a Margarita Moment, and now… I’m just so sad. There’s so much good here. But the judge is just kills the investment.

[@juliemassam933]

Gonna have to watch this one in full. I agree, this could've been so good with a little working around, loved the tenseness as Luis was watching, and then as everything went bad. Maybe as another commentator suggested, Luis finds out some secret or even that all his "friends" know each other and they start fighting back against him.

[@DPSFSU]

Were those supposed to be gunshots? This was, by far, the most outlandish concept we have seen lately. It would have been better if they kept with the "friendly neighborhood watcher" getting stalked himself. They really went off the rails with the judge thing.

[@lonelyhunter990]

love unfiction and ARGs and have wanted to make my own but finding how to start is the hardest part. Luis as a stalker is so weird. instead of the normal stalker mentality of " i know this is wrong" he plays it like someone with a hobby that society doesn't really accept (like bronies and furries) and has to hide it when confronted but freely puts it on the internet.

[@iamfuckstro1438]

Y'know what? This kid's convinced me! Imma start watching people too.

[@vinnyc365]

lol. I've been waiting two years for someone to say this.

[@fialka39]

please be careful~ id advise not to post any footage on youtube.

[@vinnyc365]

@@fialka39 Are you suggesting that they should keep their stalking activities private?

[@fialka39]

@@vinnyc365 yes, exactly. i wouldn’t want them to end up in the same situation as Luis

[@vinnyc365]

@@fialka39 So it's OK to be a stalker, just don't get caught?

[@enderkatze6129]

Jalapeno was 100% the best actor in this series, much respect.

[@joutakujo2366]

4am and no better way to start a day then a new night mind

[@gamerdude4720]

let's go, always a pleasure to watch your content Nick!

[@ellieblack8028]

This reminds me of when me and my roommate got an apartment that faced another apartment across a narrow alley. The guy inside never used curtains or blinds, and had his light on, so we noticed him. We could only see him sitting at his desk, writing. We watched him for 3 evenings and noticed we were kind of obsessed with him, so we stopped watching. But it was really fun! Even though he wasn't doing anything in particular. it really did feel like "hanging out". I'm always looking for the opportunity to do some more watching with the same code as he mentioned.

[@9miles4way]

This is definetly weird in many ways, it feels like every upload got a new writer who just read the sparknotes of the story thusfar. And as for the imitation, they didnt even choose a new font. To reference an artistic masterpiece; not everyone can be a cook, but a cook can be anyone. This entire series needed a lot more thought behind it before it was started, and i feel if they had just drawn out the timeline to just look at it they could have seen a lot of these critiques coming from miles away. Also; GET HIS ASS CLAYTON

[@NeoInsomniac]

For all its problems, I could see a really solid thriller movie made from this concept. Just needs a little trimming and streamlining. Even if you scrap the judge/court concept, and make it just a stalker being stalked, and being forced to out himself to his victims, that's a really interesting premise.

[@Voxael]

That thirst-trap angle of Clayton 😂😂😂

[@sunbirth4795]

i do love how you actually critique these unfictions- these are becoming more common nowadays, and unlike most youtubers, you dont need to pretend to be scared and confused, you critique them like the stories they are.

[@Bobthepetferret]

This sounded like it had a great premise, but the second The Judge showed up with his whole generic early-2000s edge I checked out. The words "I'm judge, jury and executioner" made me roll my eyes so hard and all potential interest was lost. Baffling choice, and I was so grateful to immediately hear your critique follow all that, Nick.

[@1219stiles]

I didnt expect this video at this time. This just made my night 10x better!

[@groobs]

saaaaaaame!!

[@groobs]

🙌🙌🙌

[@Wargasm99]

Just rolled a joint, perfect timing mate.

[@TherealChainsawmaniac]

The amount of joy I get when I see a new night mind video drop, like a kid on christmas morning lol keep up the awesome work man 😁👍

[@MBoy2000_]

The story time note cards gives me hella binding of Isaac vibes, was an interesting web series, enjoyed watching this

[@DeadHatzGuy]

Thank you

[@MrStatistx]

On the DeadHatz channel (which is the main channel of the creator) there's a "The Making of Peaceful Watcher". I recommend it to anyone interested in making a webseries.

[@colinr0380]

"Is he watching you?" "He'd better be: I didn't put this skimpy lingerie on for nothing!"

[@happyinhalecompany]

FINALLY US METAL BASSISTS GET THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WE DESERVE!! I just wish my dad was proud of me.... 😭