Peach mom did nothing wrong.

[@VayaKahvi]

I'm now remembering a conversation, that involved a guy trying to be macho at work saying he never changed a babies diaper, and his boss replied with "I'd never brag about being so useless."

[@cyrollan]

I have a boomer coworker who brags that he can't cook, doesn't have to, because his wife cooks every single dish they eat. He's the only man I know who is proud to not be able to cook.

[@rhettblood4403]

@@cyrollan i had a comvrrsation like that once. I told the guy that if his wife dies first, then hes not gonna be long behind her.

[@bex2759]

@@cyrollan That attitude us why there's literally a phenomenon called "bachelors scurvy"

[@renaigh]

imagine being burned by your own boss, that's gotta be embarrassing.

[@meruscales]

Wow that guy caused the practically impossible boss W. Truly shocking

[@Zettabyte7]

None of this would have ever happened if the kids didn't like peaches so much. So really it's their fault.

[@viceroybolt3518]

What kind of red blooded American kid eats fruit anyway when there's gelatinized corn syrup and citric acid to consume?

[@Cruelty-Torture]

Lol. Those darn kids. *shakes fist dramatically *

[@Ms.CultureGeek]

WHY DOESN'T ANYONE EVER THINK ABOUT 'THE CHILDREN' (tm)?!

[@michimatsch5862]

And she could have gotten away with it were it not for those...wait, wrong context.

[@Guimhj]

Mean, but fair lmao

[@tillyqtillyq3750]

Growing up my mom would cooking full dinners every single night, often with salads and sides while my dad was playing MtG online and yelling across the house asking when it'd be ready. Eventually after YEARS of arguing, couples therapy and everything my dad finally agreed to *help* with the dishes. We had a dishwasher, so that just meant loading the machine while she was cleaning the counters, dinner table, place mats and putting away leftovers. He would usually finish before her, never mind that she had already been working for 1-2 hours beforehand. The crazy thing was how over the next 10 years **he never stopped bragging about how "evolved" he was for **_helping_** with the dishes.** He literally bragged about it in his toast at my sister's wedding. This is all to say that some people can have a distorted idea of what a balance of housework looks like, because if they think it's _supposed_ to be done by women, any time a man does his own dish it's seen as an achievement and every time a woman picks up a man's trash it's seen as business as usual.

[@kamilareeder1493]

*thunderous applause*

[@JaseekaRawr]

Your last paragraph, omg the accuracy, about expectations 😅 My husband was helping with our newborn & he had the nerve to say once that he was putting in more work. I told him, "I'm going to have to stop showering you with praise for even helping me at all." We really do expect so little of men in regards to housework & child rearing that when they just lift a finger we feel we should praise them. (Speaking as a southerner, at least) Lesson learned. 😆 He's amazing btw, don't get me wrong!! We were both just new, first time parents so we were figuring it all out. Not to mention both massively sleep deprived, so you're at your wit's end. I was also having to wake up every 2 hours to breastfeed 😴💤 so his comment stung even more. Not only do we share parenting duties but he also has never had an issue with housework! Esp whenever I've had bouts with depression. 😔 He's the best man I've ever known. Also for context he's Indian & their society is a bit more conservative regarding gender "duties". He's legit a gem. 💎🥺

[@knewledge8626]

I once (years ago. Pre-internet) saw a list about what men and dogs had in common. My favorite was both are afraid of vacuum cleaners. 😁

[@freeofavia]

@@KrisCreider lol Magic the Gathering, I believe

[@orboakin8074]

Was your dad the one paying for the utilities, the tax on your house or rent, and was he also paying for your schooling and providing money for groceries and stuff? If you honestly think him not doing dishes or housework is a bad reflection on him, you need help. But I'm talking to a westerner here........

[@wanbon]

This couldn't come at a more appropriate time for me - two stories: - when I tried moving out our for the first time, I chose to try living with some college friends halfway across the country. I was jokingly called the "mom friend" for cleaning, shopping groceries, making meals, checking on everyone's well being and driving everyone around. It wasn't until I moved out after a really bad depressive break that I realized how much I resented it because I barely got any recognition or assistance and honestly it was just an extension of - I did every chore in my family home from the age of six till moving out with those friends. I sporadically got gifts for this (like once every for years, usually stuff my parents got from work). I was expected to give maid service level work since basically grade school. And I was never allowed to complain about it or be frustrated in general. My mother would help, when she wasn't busy which was often because my step dad was miserable. Now, my step dad hasn't worked a job in over two years and I live apart from them still - my mom has to beg me to come over and do chores because my brother is undertrained and my step dad is, again, useless. The thing now is I ask for money upfront. I'm done doing that shit for free.

[@wanbon]

It is unfair as fuck to ask people to do EVERYTHING in a house - a spouse, a child, anyone. Especially when it's several tasks that can be shared. I've gone hungry in the mornings because my stepdad would suddenly decide that the lawn needed to be cut and that it was more important than breakfast. Share the load.

[@Hchris101]

You should try caramel chocolate milk

[@christophersteadwell3217]

@@Hchris101 I don't know where that came from but if it's anything like caramel hot chocolate it sounds heavenly. The hunt is on!

[@ClockworkJim]

I'm the child of an adult woman who was in your circumstances, yet never realized how warped/abused she was. We try to help, but she leapfrogs us to do it herself, will never ask for help, & then is resentful about it.

[@thekingoffailure9967]

I, male, grew up in my mother's hoarding house. I had to do an insane amount of chores to keep the household afloat, cook meals so not everyone would eat snacks and crap, and clean up after our cats who knocked piles over and our incontinent old pug. If I didnt wash dishes the sinks would literally overflow and stuff would be stacked on the floor, my brother helped with nothing and played video games. I complained to my mostly female teachers that I was overwhelmed with "too much chores/housework" and couldn't do any homework. They thought I was a whiny teenager and degraded me for my shitty priorities and "wasting my potential," because of course this boy is just sick of washing dishes. They said "then dont play on the basketball team, quit what you find fun in life" when any excuse for me to not go home was a blessing (though at the time I didn't recognize how bad shit was and why I avoided going home). What I mean to say is that I feel ya, and these cultural expectations can (albeit rarely) affect male identifying folks too.

[@TDOTCRFH4]

I'll never forget bean dad because, unless I'm mis-remembering, he happened the morning of the january 6th insurrection, and we were all going "man, remember like six hours ago when the thing we were all upset about was some guy being weird about a can opener"

[@spooky6703]

Apparently he made the tweet on Jan 2nd, but still, 4 days ain't very long

[@WeebishSwed]

It was one of the first weird things that happened this year, right before the big event of the month. Plus that he had done some work for MBMBAM. It is still 2021, right?

[@ClockworkJim]

@@WeebishSwed Remember when Australia was on fire over a vast portion of it's country?

[@WeebishSwed]

@@ClockworkJim I hardly remember that, though i do sometimes think of a conversation i had with my sister about it.

[@grmpEqweer]

@@ClockworkJim I can't remember the date, because I am bad with dates (and names). But I still have memories of a scorched koala and huge walls of smoke. So, yes, I was really horrified, and I'm wondering if the ecosystem is recovering.

[@grannyhellyeah6160]

I cannot and will not forget Bean Dad.

[@DMO-DMO-DMO]

I missed Bean Dad, what was bean dad

[@TheArcv2]

@@DMO-DMO-DMO it’s a lot but bean dad was a post on Twitter by the so called bean dad telling a story about tasking his daughter with opening a can of beans with a can opener as a kind of puzzle box. There’s a lot more to it with details about how hungry the daughter was at the time, digging up the other things bean dad had said in the past, his status as minor celebrity in Portland, and who he is friends with etc.

[@DMO-DMO-DMO]

@@TheArcv2 ohhhhh you know what, I might've seen the og post. Haha Edit: and thank you

[@83croissant]

Bean Dad became a thing outside of Bean Dad, it’s like Milkshake Duck, he became the namesake of a term. ( milkshake ducking is when one becomes viral for something wholesome and then people look into your online presence and find out you’re gross. Bean Dadding is when you achieve virality for something gross and then everyone finds out that you are actually Even Grosser )

[@tren-della]

Bean Dad… that sounds familiar but not too familiar.

[@c.w.8200]

Can someone make a comic about my Dad handing 8 y/o me the vacuum cleaner when my 3 y/o sister spilled something, proclaiming that "this is women's work". Thanks.

[@tamatebako_yt]

That's awful.

[@paulsmart4672]

I misread this and briefly thought that he meant spilling stuff is women's work.

[@fionafiona1146]

I think teaching kids cleaning in a a higher stress situation is contraproductive. It's possibly appropriate to teach 8 years olds to vacuum but not to phrase it that way.

[@cam4636]

I probably could since basically the same thing happened in my house. He'd never say "this is women's work," he'd just say "do it." He still tries it and can't fathom why adults who have the ability to go to their own homes when they no longer want to stay in his presence will hear an order and just decide 'nah.'

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@fionafiona1146 I don’t think forcing you to care for your sibling at 8 constitutes “teaching you how to use the vacuum cleaner”

[@hyperrealhank]

"everyone is born with a certain amount of laundry doing capacity from birth" - well said

[@frauleinfunf]

When you don’t have a washer and dryer at home and have to go to the laundromat you are constantly hitting that limit (or at least i am)

[@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708]

Dang adhd

[@randcall5933]

For real. First time as an adult owning a washer dryer at 43 was a gamechanger, especially without a car.

[@terrystevens3998]

@@randcall5933 I honestly think it is cruel and unusual punishment to not have a washer or dryer available on the premises.. especially if it is a family where the launderer is doing the laundry for three or more.

[@frauleinfunf]

@@randcall5933 I’m from New York, we don’t have them for most apartments and I was fine with that. Then I lived down south for two years and did not realize what an adjustment it would be to not have that convenience when I moved back.

[@Xondar11223344]

When I saw the whole Peach Mom thing on Twitter, I just assumed it was a commentary on how women are expected to make unnecessary sacrifices for their children in the society-imposed "caregiver" role, while men don't feel any guilt about it and children don't actually care. In other words,. mom should just eat the damn peach.

[@BigJoel]

u slayed with this one misandrist icon

[@flask223]

Thanks

[@thebrutusmars]

Thanks

[@someonesour]

Thanks

[@renaigh]

Thanks

[@JaseekaRawr]

Thanks

[@vidmuncher]

This video, lowkey, has all the energy of that one Malcolm in The Middle scene where the other boys recognize Dewey isn't getting yelled at as much as them and, when questioned, just says "Lois doesn't yell for her health. If you do the things she says she won't yell so much"

[@detectivewiggles]

i love you

[@allie6160]

I like that she made a follow up post encouraging women to “eat the damn peaches.” Trying to anticipate the needs and desires of your loved ones and prioritizing them above your own to the point of making yourself miserable is not healthy. As women, we are socialized to do this, but it breeds resentment and unequal relationships.

[@SilvrRazorFeather]

Every single holiday at my grandparents' the aunts and moms were wordlessly expected to help grandma cook the whole meal, and the granddaughters were wordlessly expected to clean up after. Every man and boy in the house was allowed to sit and watch TV and enjoy dessert or play foosball in the basement. I (afab and girl presenting at the time) was the first one to ever have a problem with this and refused to do it one year and got absolutely reemed for it by my aunts. This stuff is literally carved into the brains of older generations.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

This is so messed up

[@Saibellus]

I get so sad in my heart when I see a family somewhere and one of the female children is caring for her siblings. Mom's feedin' the baby, older sister is entertaining younger brother, and dad is on his phone. There's nothing wrong with sometimes getting some help from your kids, or expecting siblings to get along, but your female children are not tiny moms. Stop making them do more child care and chores than their own fathers.

[@gregoryvn3]

Every family reunion and Christmas Eve was just like this for my family, and it took me years to realize it. Just. Ugh.

[@41052]

I’m glad our generation knows our self worth

[@Misora7303]

My boyfriends mom tried to make the men and boys do the chores on Christmas, she had to do It anyways because they rather starve (Except for like 2 guys)

[@mirandawhittaker8481]

I have seen the women of my family struggle with peach-guilt adjacent feeling in real time. I have nothing but support for Peach Mom.

[@mirandawhittaker8481]

Related: I have seen a cartoon from 1880 that's a husband and wife having the who-does-more-around-the-house argument. Somethings don't seem to change.

[@margerald1]

She still didn't pay the bills.

[@melanieg.9092]

@@margerald1 oh you know them on a personal level to know their finances? Or did they disclose this online? If neither then yeah, you're just assuming...

[@cascharles3838]

@@margerald1 she's a graphic designer (pretty well paying job) and she has her own successful small business selling her work. Even if she wasn't working, being a parent is a 24/7 job that both parents need to take on.

[@margerald1]

@@cascharles3838 Her husband is a f*cking lawyer it's pretty clear he's the one making stacks and needs more time to focus on work. Also why did you just assume that the dad wasn't contributing? Do you know them on a personal level?

[@witmoreluke]

I really think leaving the poop bit in was a good call, because the amount of dudes who don't wash their asses is kind of insane.

[@annetheo9525]

Seriously? I'm not from the US or Europe, so I really had no idea about this. I still don't actually believe it, that's insane, how is this possible? Isn't this part of potty training? My brain is glitching with this information..

[@supernova622]

@@annetheo9525 they wipe with toilet paper over coarse butt hair which they refuse to groom and while they do bathe, they don't really wanna get too up in there to wash Probably a deep seated fear that they might secretly enjoy butthole stimulation My solution is to only date bottoms

[@gur262]

You know an amount? I thought it's more of an internet curiosity. I hope it's nowhere near the amount who don't wash their hands after peeing, cause that's like ...alot. At least 20percenf.

[@nunyabidnis3815]

@@annetheo9525 Yup. Understand just how deeply tormented and paranoid people have to be to think that hygiene is a gateway to losing some essential characteristic, and that's just a little insight in how the mens is doin' in the west. Woo buddy. Fragile doesn't even begin to do it justice.

[@ameteuraspirant]

This bit of information baffles me. Washing your ass is almost a byproduct of taking a normal shower or bath. You'd have to put in more effort to *avoid* washing it. *edit* if I'm misinterpreting this and it's about toilets... w- wipe your ass... fellas.. Toilet paper is what separates us from the beasts wiping their butts on the carpet because it's crusted and itchy.

[@IncendiarySolution]

Hey. I'm reminded of 3 years ago this month when my youngest was born and i was at the hospital, my wife was sleeping, and i was chilling in your livestream. I told you my partner just had a baby, and you said thats super cute. I appreciated that. You seem nice.

[@frankiebluethgen4291]

happy 3rd birthday to ur livestream baby!

[@msjkramey]

@@frankiebluethgen4291 lol that makes it sound like the baby was made during a livestream

[@grmpEqweer]

@@msjkramey That could happen.

[@stalfithrildi5366]

A disgustingly positive comments section, revealing ever deeper positivity in the past. Awful.

[@JaseekaRawr]

@@grmpEqweer 😳👉👈

[@jan-seli]

Damn. Our feeds are very different. When the peach mom stuff was going down all I saw was some lighthearted riffing on the original comic, I saw probably a dozen variations and before your video I had no idea anyone was actually upset with her.

[@Lurdiak]

If a twitter thread gets enough likes at some point the totally insane and evil people will show up, no matter how harmless or uncontroversial the original topic.

[@coyoteblue4027]

I think i saw the comic itself reposted on instagram but i dont remember any drama being assosciated with it whatsoever

[@VCV95]

Same here. I kinda giggled at it, saw a few memes, and totally forgot it existed

[@bea_3243]

thing about twitter is that even if it’s not malicious, a) people pick up on popular topics and if you get like 50000 strangers lightheartedly riffing abt something you post it starts to feel like a pile-on even if the individuals don’t mean anything by it and b) as topics get more steam you inevitably run into people who take it waaaay too seriously even if the topic is benign. i’d like to think a lot of the people involved have good intentions but the way twitter (and modern social media in general) is designed it really amplifies a few ppl making jokes and turns toxic very quickly. and if you’re not the one directly affected you’re only seeing maybe 5% of the whole thing.

[@jezzuh9120]

I'm on that same side of the internet where that level of harassment just isn't happening, but unfortunately for a lot of the people who we want to lightheartedly goof on, there's also just complete ghouls choosing violence. In a nicer world, Mary Catherine Starr would maybe see and enjoy some of those posts.

[@vengerofthelight]

Stay-at-home dad, here -- and isn't it telling that I had to specify that? The "stay-at-home" part? I'd like to anecdotally confirm and then *expound* upon the point that men in hetero relationships just aren't expected to perform many domestic tasks -- even dads in *my* position. When my wife tells people that I'm the homemaker, they ask to confirm, "Does he do the dishes? Laundry? Cooking?" It's expected, despite having never met me, that I'm just at home on KZbin (which, you know, I am at the moment; I don't do housework 24-7, people, and neither do female homemakers). A dad who doesn't have gainful employment is assumed to be a deadbeat. My wife hasn't done laundry in nearly a decade, and she brags about that. XD

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

Thank you for acknowledging this. It can be so frustrating as a woman to point out these double standards out and have our concerns ignored or talked over. Being a homemaker/SAHP is work and I wish the "I want to be your boywife" crowd would actually acknowledge that more

[@vengerofthelight]

@@rochellerodriguez6431 *Preach*, sister. Anyone who doesn't think being a SAHP (thank you for that) is work should see what happens when housework isn't done for a week -- or a day, for that matter. Pile of dishes in the sink, filthy stovetop, leftovers sitting out overnight, y'damn underwear still in the bathroom the next day. XD

[@taranullius9221]

Then the pandemic came along and the extra super fun truth shone bright - even when you're ALSO doing at least 8 hours online work from home in the day, it's the women doing 100% of the child minding AT THE SAME TIME. Big man's work is more important. Every. Single. Person. I knew ended up like that. Gen X man.

[@Aurabolt]

I’m glad for you, sir. All the power to you. Do you feel like you’ve chosen this, or that something is ever placed upon you unduly? The comic does give me a sense of: “What are you going to do about this?“ which seems pressuring.

[@vengerofthelight]

@@Aurabolt Oh, I absolutely chose the life I have. Out of the two of us, I'm far better suited to being a SAHP than my wife; she gets cabin fever, and I hate going outside. XD

[@KatieBadenhorst]

As a wife and mom I definitely see the social pressure. My husband is often the only man attending school meetings, and the only man in the class "parents" whatsapp group. From the personal side it's also difficult to always divide chores equally all the time, it's really easy to just take over the chores you prefer. For instance my husband hates hand washing so he'll always leave it to me. Usually I'm fine with that, but sometimes I do have to tell him clearly that I'm tired and can he please do it. The problem is these disagreements can be so routine and couples start to fall into habits, with even the argument becoming another habit that you know how it will play out. So many people would rather skip the fight and do the dishes. But if course this reinforces the problem and builds resentment. It takes work to communicate better with your partner and set boundaries.

[@camelopardalis84]

Didn't get what you meant by "hand washing" at first.

[@KatieBadenhorst]

@@camelopardalis84 well we have a dish washer, but some things aren't supposed to be washed in it lol. Just always called it that.

[@cbpd89]

I am the parent at home with the tiny children, so there are a lot of household/kid responsibilities that fall to me because I am around during the day. But I completely hate hand washing dishes, and as head chef I think someone else should do the post dinner clean up. That being said, my husband is actually better at doing all of those things, partly because he is tidier and more organized than I am, partly because when he does house work I can distract hurricane toddler so things aren't undone before they are finished.

[@AP-uc7oz]

When it comes to communicating with your partner, people who say “just communicate better lmao” in response to stuff like Peach Mom forget that communication goes both ways. I can ask my husband to do dishes over and over, but if he makes no effort to remember I asked him to do something it’s futile.

[@xSaraxMxNeffx]

@@AP-uc7oz thats very true, but that sounds like he's got his own issues he needs to deal with then. either he's unintentionally forgetting for whatever reason and needs to learn memory mechanisms, or hes intentionally (or subconciously) forgetting as a way to get out of it which is a whole other bit of BS. Both can be fixed, but he'd have to actually want to fix it first. Still it is ultimately communication in the end; its just communication doesnt work if both people arent trying.

[@diamondbrook]

It’s pronounced uh-lee knee-sa! I very much appreciate the support. You didn’t have to do this at all. The many mentions of eyeballs in my comment spurred me to explore until I found your channel. You’re a rockstar and I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 🏃🏽‍♂️

[@melanieg.9092]

And your comment here reminded me to check out the eyeballs, new subbed to u

[@alicethemad1613]

This is an issue I’ve been having with the general r/arethestraightsokay community and its surrounding culture for a while now. I originally went there to dunk on the “I hate my wife” and “Saturdays are for the boys” type of jokes, but slowly more and more posts by women venting about male partners being shitty, men being cruel and misogynistic, or the expectations of femininity and housework put on them started being posted. And it felt like the whole community wasn’t acknowledging misogyny in the slightest. Their critiques were always just “ew toxic wife hates her husband” and “just get a divorce lol” instead of having any kind of empathy for the kind of shit straight women are expected to do in straight relationships. Which is especially baffling because it’s mostly coming from young queer people who seem otherwise very feminist and politically active, but when it comes to straight women they’re cast with the exact same “nagging wife” and “shrill harpy” stereotypes that sexist straight boomers use. It always makes me so uncomfortable to see, it’s like they somehow think we live in a world that is neutral and sexism is over.

[@cidevant002]

YES, exactly! Like the moment you tell people that something could be affecting straight woman they all go "lol, straighties, amirite", like we completely forgot that women, yes, even cis, straight, body abled, white women are still subjected to misogyny and misogyny is SUPPOSED to be a bad thing!

[@Ilsezwarts]

People just love othering people. Sometimes the people who think they know best about what it's like to be othered are the ones that are the least aware of how their own actions affect others.

[@colleen6440]

I've seen 'are the straights okay' content that's fully just jokes at the expence of domestic abuse victims.

[@dandylionsloth446]

Expecting a grown woman to use her words to communicate instead of being passive aggressive isn't misogyny.

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@dandylionsloth446 exactly this entire post is nothing more than infantilization of a grown ass white woman nothing more.

[@Nuvizzle]

I can't even imagine getting mad about something as absolutely harmless and inane as this peach comic. This makes Bean Dad look like geocide.

[@saeedrazavi4428]

Wait, Bean Dad isn't Genocide?

[@AiNaKa]

i mean thought slime was right on the money with "are the straights ok". i never thought the mom was unreasonable but most of the comics just seemed ridiculous to me how you can have so many trivial issues in a relationship. personally for me ive managed to avoid gender socialization so these arent issues i can personally relate to in my relationships and they appear ridiculous to me.

[@javsandarts]

@@AiNaKa bet You never saw the ones that point out things like a father bringing fast food is "fun dad" but a mother is being "Bad mother"

[@AiNaKa]

@@javsandarts well u won that bet then lol

[@ethicalcheeze1407]

Is "geocide" the mass murder of.... rocks?

[@owlcake]

I think she probably draws a rough draft when she’s frustrated to vent, talks to her husband about it when she’s calmer, then will polish up a final draft to help other women. Probably makes some of them more palatable in the final draft and probably has a bunch she will never post online lol

[@theeccentric7263]

As an artist myself, I don’t doubt that.

[@Xondar11223344]

I once tried making a comic, and I'd say that one out of every 25 was good. I didn't last long.

[@loganbradford2343]

The panel in question REALLY seems like it stopped at step 1 of that

[@buttlicker7670]

That's a whole lot of assumptions lol

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

@@buttlicker7670 that's just normal adult artist praxis. The most plausible scénario.

[@punkorifik]

I really appreciated this, it made me feel really seen as a woman who carries the weight of the domestic sphere in my relationship. That being said, I have the added complexity of my partner being physically disabled and dealing with chronic pain, so he physically can't do much around the home. I'm still learning how to navigate it all.

[@helpme5785]

This comment is very relatable for me

[@holywaterbottle3175]

The difference here is that the woman making the comic hires a maid that her awful husband pays for by being the sole breadwinner. Oh and she says he is also doing half the house work

[@punkorifik]

@@holywaterbottle3175 I mean, my situation is probably very different, and I don't know this woman's life either. I just know that carrying the majority of the weight in the domestic sphere is a lot, and it's tiring. And it's easy to feel frustrated at times, especially when I watch my partner do something that provokes a wtf moment in my brain because he just didn't think about the extra work he created for me 🙃 He is my person, so I do take this on willingly but I too have been debating about hiring a cleaner to come in every couple weeks just to help out.

[@holywaterbottle3175]

@@punkorifikyou are taking care of another person out of the love and kindness of your heart. She writes in her Instagram posts that her husband is the sole breadwinner, does all the cooking, does all the grocery shopping, does his own laundry, hire a cleaning company to clean their home, and takes care of the children in the evening when she goes to yoga She is not carrying the majority of the domestic weight like you do. And yet while you express your situation from a place of empathy and warmth, she is snarkingly dissing her husband for the world to see because her extremely luxurious life isn't completely perfect

[@el4689]

@@holywaterbottle3175 idk what ur so peeved over. even if their situations are different, it’s not bad that she feels seen by these things

[@Rupert3434]

As a gay man, I do just want to point out that while washing the butt is important, there's a certain subculture that insists you're not really clean unless you anally douche, which can be bad for your natural rectal flora and increase your likelihood of developing bacterial infections. Clean throughly, but clean reasonably, and understand that unless you're keeping up a diet thats high in soluable fiber, a small amount of mess can just happen...and neither you nor your partner need to feel weird about that.

[@thechumbucket8986]

douching is fine as long as it's just water lol

[@muticere]

As a parent I can confirm the kids will choose robux over peaches 9 times out of 10.

[@TheWonkster]

And that last one? That's the one where they eat the peach and then ask for robux anyway

[@annaeliasson952]

22:06 to be fair, not being irritated and exhausted does wonders for the libido. Thought Slime, you are a genius! Pretending to be a feminist BY DOING HOUSEWORK really does give sexual superpowers!

[@brinkusminkus4964]

This just in: Though Slime sleeps nude in an oxygen tent which they believe gives them sexual powers

[@toppersundquist]

@@brinkusminkus4964 That's a half-truth!

[@Lurdiak]

@@brinkusminkus4964 Know that your service is appreciated.

[@dand1253]

One of the most harrowing things I've ever experienced was the day that I apologized to my mom for making her listen to me grousing about something a few days earlier, and she responded by reassuring me that it's okay, _because it's 'her job' to be the emotional release valve/backstop for the other members of our family._

[@Dinnyeify]

Ouch. That's surely Not An Incredible Emotional Burden On Her

[@lG-gh3py]

Genuinely, thank you for this video. I’m a mom, I immediately understood what the comic was trying to say, and seeing literally everyone take a shot at this woman and dismiss her concerns was really hurtful. It really made me a feel better seeing someone say that they understand her, and by extension, me. Thank you

[@dandelion2912]

This is the first time I’ve seen the peach mom comic, and I was immediately reminded of my own mom and her tendency to neglect treating herself to simple pleasures in life in favor of saving it for me and my brother. I need moms out there to know that your kids want you to eat the damn peach 😤

[@skyek.1787]

Hey, thank you for this. I'm working full time and pregnant with our first and am trying to wrap my mind around how absolutely exhausted I'm going to be for the next 20 years as my workload continues to expand with no end in sight.

[@terrystevens3998]

If I could go back in time 12 years to when I was a new mom I would give myself the advise to not push yourself as hard as you can.. because then that amount of work is what is expected of you.. if you do all the baby bathing, feeding, and night shifts it just becomes your job.. next thing you know you have baby number two and the man sleeping in bed next to you thinks that it’s cool to complain that the breast feeding baby is being too loud and take it out to the couch so you don’t wake him up because he has work tomorrow.. knowing you also have work tomorrow.. when a new baby arrives we want to be able to do it all perfect.. but that then makes the little bit the men do a bonus to help you out when you are crying in the corner instead of half his fucking job.. MAKE him parent.. and my husband gets mad credit from his mom who was just super impressed that he changed a few diapers and spent time with the kid. His father apparently had two kids and never “babysat” them once until they were old enough to wipe their own asses. Make it a point to start from day one making him know what you know about a bath a bottle or Tylenol dose.. if you don’t they don’t get the confidence to handle it and then they become unable to just step in and do it. We are all different, so I hope you have a partner that will just jump right in.. just my experience parenting with a cis man that was raised to treat child care as a woman’s thing. Good luck tho babies are great and it is all worth it in the end.. it goes by slow while it is happening but it feels like a blink of an eye in hindsight.. it’s reall only the first few years of complete sleep deprivation after that it’s just occasional all nighters during illness.

[@fighttheevilrobots3417]

I'm also pregnant with my first and also dealing with this.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

It’s like losing all the freedoms you just spent 18 years trying to gain. I think it’s all a scam by nature to sustain the species

[@mirandawhittaker8481]

@@terrystevens3998 There are a LOT of grammas and MIL who are ready to throw a parade when a Dad so much as changes a diaper....It's really upsetting.

[@terrystevens3998]

@@mirandawhittaker8481 my husband had one day a week that from wake up to bedtime he was the primary caregiver that day.. I could get up when I wanted grab my keys and just hop in the car if I wanted a coffee and mentally check out and he used to wake up early take the baby to his moms and it pretty much became her day.. and she used to give him mad credit for taking the kid every weekend lol.. she praised him for a babysitting shift she was doing. The world will work against fathers doing baby care. On weekends he just wanted to not go over she would get all worried he had to do the full shift alone. He eventually had to say hey mom I got this I want to spend the day with them when they got a bit bigger and sitting at his parents all day was more of a pain in the ass then just being home with his boys all day .

[@CatHasOpinions734]

I know this isn't at all the point, but can we talk about the fact that "he ate a single piece of fruit rather than leaving it for the kids" is one of the mildest, most gentle critiques to ever go viral? Like, it's being vaguely inconsiderate about a single ripe peach, she's hardly raking him over the coals.

[@cidevant002]

Yeah, like if the worst you can say about any man is "he ate the last peach"... He is probably fine.

[@terrystevens3998]

The manosphere be like stfu bitches I’m sure he earned the money to buy the peach and just got home from a 12 hour day slaving away in the mines while the she devil woman went to yoga and Starbucks and shopping.. biches amiright

[@mookiestewart3776]

then she shouldn't be talking shit like its an actual valid issue lol

[@CatHasOpinions734]

@@mookiestewart3776 Since when does something have to be any kind of serious issue for someone to make a webcomic about it? People make little webcomics about tiny inconveniences that they deal with all the time. I can't tell you how many comics I've seen where someone complains (often with a lot of exaggeration) about some innocuous thing their cat did, but no one dogpiles them with accusations that they're being unreasonable or suggests that they clearly actually hate their cat and/or their relationship with their cat is irreparable and clearly their cat should be with someone else. No, we leave them alone because we recognize (correctly) that mild complaints about your life are a normal part of existing in public on the internet. And they didn't even check with their cat before putting it online, unlike this lady and her husband. It's a single-panel webcomic, not someone's magnum opus. As far as I can tell, the only people treating anything here as a bigger deal than it really should've been are the people reacting to it.

[@terrystevens3998]

@@mookiestewart3776 but you can be here talking shit like you have a valid reason to? Weird

[@Colorcrayons]

Thanks Mildred. It always makes a day so much better when a new Thought Slime vid drops. Instances such as this solidifies my stance that spending more than 10 minutes on social media each day is bad for absolutely everyone.

[@wastedinspiration]

I recently (last year during lockdown) had a conversation with my husband and our (at the time) 5-year-old about household expectations. It so happens that during COVID, my work (in retail) has slowed considerably, so I'm at home a lot more. As such, I don't mind doing the bulk of household labor, but I had found myself doing literally EVERYTHING. It was too much and driving me crazy. My daughter got the job "pick up the dog's toys" and "put her own clothes in bins" and my husband got "dry and put away the dishes". Two weeks ago, our roommates cleaned out their storage space and added about 25% more dishes at which point, my husband went on strike from putting dishes away. He's on the spectrum, so the over full cupboards was super triggering to him. Instead we had another talk and after much negotiation, he took over the laundry (a task I struggled with). He's a God damned natural. I know Mildred was joking about laundry talent being in-born, but I can't think of another reason why he's so good at it right outta the gate. TLDR: my husband's long hidden laundry talent was recently discovered.

[@wolfferoni]

How does one be good vs bad at laundry? Assuming you're using a washing machine, I didn't realise there was a way to be bad at it. Unless you mean folding laundry? That, I understand.

[@briennekennedy373]

@@wolfferoni I think it’s also little things like, remembering you were doing laundry in the first place, noticing when the laundry needs to be done, managing the laundry cleaning products, knowing which clothes need what settings (or even just knowing that different clothes have different washing needs at all), keeping up with transferring to the dryer, knowing what gets hung vs folded, and knowing where all the clean clothes go. As a woman who sucks at laundry, believe me, it’s a uniquely difficult chore for some of us!

[@rachelnotluf4585]

@@wolfferoni Throw some white dress shirts, a red wool sweater, a bunch of towels that love to shed fibers everywhere, and a new pair of dark wash jeans into the washer together on hot - that’s how you do laundry badly. Laundry may not exactly be an art, but it is definitely a skill.

[@cbpd89]

When COVID sent my husband to remote work from the basement, he turned into a laundry machine! He could hear it running from our pseudo office, so he moved laundry along faster than I ever have. He's always been better at putting clean clothes away, the only reason I put my clean clothes away is so he doesn't have to sleep on them or step on them. My only critique is that he doesn't know which clothes goes to which kid, so if he helps with their laundry they get put away in weird places.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@cbpd89 He turned into a laundry machine?? Did a witch curse him?! /j

[@thalmorbiznitch4028]

I read the comics as not necessarily commentary on her own individual relationship. So many comedians and stuff make up to exaggerate situations and what not, so who fuckin knows if it even actually happened. But stuff like this ACTUALLY does happen, and the commentary on the larger conversation is what I immediately took out of the comics. The commentary on that women/femme/afab people are literally trained from birth to think of everyone else except themselves, and men or who society sees as men, aren’t shamed and trained in the same way. I think what irritated me about the discourse was “this individual person is really annoying so fuck any nuance the comics actually may have”. As an afab enby person (also single parent) who often falls into that “woman” role in society, seeing other women, including moms, just say “man fuck this woman just let your husband exist” was really disheartening. This wasn’t about shitting in her husband, but the societal expectations between gendered roles. And like, it fucking blows my mind that I’m autistic and I got that right away but so many neurotypical people clearly missed it?

[@alisonspeelpenning9345]

Not just a half-cupcake-half-toilet, my favorite half-cupcake-half-toilet

[@Acideye48]

I actually read a book recently that touched on a lot of what this video covered. It's called All the Rage by Darcy Lockman. It talks a lot about all of the labor that women do, both physical and planning/organizing, in a relationship even when both partners work full time as well as how that relates to societal expectations about men and women.

[@mitcharendt2253]

I quote that book all the time, I'm a transman and wow I have feelings about domestic labor. I once had to leave a room because a dude was complaining about his girlfriend and her lack of laundry skills and asking me about my homework skills.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

@@mitcharendt2253 “Laundry skills” is such a stupid concept. Nobody likes laundry.

[@1Hawkears1]

@@mitcharendt2253 trying to untangle all the weird shit in my head including being mad about the way I was forced to internalize all that shit blahhhhhhhh

[@terrystevens3998]

Women did all free domestic labor for generations and were treated like shit, then we got to go to work.. and we still had to do all the domestic labor for free after work... some men think that we are now having it too good because we point out how unfair this is. Women simply can’t win and always seem to be attacked for anything we do no matter what. The fact that a big wave of woman hating seems to be sweeping the world is really sad. Women are still not standing up for themselves like they are justified doing.

[@mirandawhittaker8481]

Another good book is "How not to Hate Your Husband After You Have Kids." Goes in-depth into the ways even a progressive male partner can backslide into crap gender-role habits when a kid is added into the mix. Real eye-opening.

[@pstrap1311]

Both attitudes exemplified in the comic are perfectly fine. The main thing though is you dont want to hoard that peach for too long as it's just going to go bad while you come up with the perfect plan to enjoy it fully. Eat it immediately i say.

[@Jodamo]

Treat that last peach no differently than the first peach. Eat the damn peach!

[@somebody-xu4mz]

"Despite my best efforts, I am not a woman" I will be stealing this

[@bassman9261995]

“All moms should get a peach” - Thoughtslime 2022

[@BarkleyBCooltimes]

Videos like this validate my refusal of using tweeter. Consume the peach.

[@carolyntalbot947]

It's a cesspool.

[@michimatsch5862]

@@mezzb feel you so much. Just use three subreddits and a discord server with some acquaintances and even there I get into the weirdest spats.

[@lilpetz500]

Same!! Twitter is a mistake I will not be joining it, ever.

[@AP-uc7oz]

Yep yep. I got it for a total of 2 days to tell Publix bring back their Italian wedding cake then deleted it again lol

[@courtneys.7113]

downloaded twitter for the first time during the covid lockdowns. and i wondered why my mental health got so bad. now i still actually have twitter but i never use it unless i want to see news about upcoming pokémon games lol i really do feel bad for people who are like Terminally Online. i only participated for like a year and was destroyed emotionally. i can’t imagine it being my source of income or something like that

[@avtsu5434]

i really felt your point about the gendered ideas of labour we internalise, even when trans. i one hundred percent internalised the emphasis of caring and putting other people first and not eating peaches, and its really weird to handle now that i generally pass as male. like on one hand i like being considerate and looking out for others, but on the other hand i worry that it makes me look illegitimate to others, or that im reinforcing the idea that Ovaries Give You Maternal Instincts. but what am i gonna do, become selfish? stop washing my arse for the masculinity points?

[@hektorsehmsdorf1336]

I'm trans masc and my partner is a cis guy and it is frightening how heterosexual our problems can be

[@fmcgucket3076]

@@hektorsehmsdorf1336 I'm a trans man, my partner is a nonbinary trans femme. It's bizarre how our various lived genders over the course of our lives influences how we interact.

[@Saibellus]

While it is difficult to balance the desire to be 'really' male in the eyes of society with your own internalized socialization while growing up afab, I think it's never delegitimizing to be a good person. The belief that being more self-centered is inherently more masculine is truly sad, and if anything, anyone (cis or not) who is pushing that boundary toward a more egalitarian and kind way of life for everyone is doing gods work. Consider it like this - you're just one of the few men who take the "men are providers and protectors!" thing seriously instead of as an excuse to never do anything that isn't directly related to earning money or resorting to violence as fast as possible.

[@capheind]

I need a pink "Just Eat the Damn Peach" truckers cap.

[@cutekittenlady]

I have to confess that I fell into this exact trap on social media. Thank you for making this video and putting that into perspective for me.

[@avangalea.1210]

Yo same. I'm used to assuming that the woman is complaining because that was simply a symptom of a bigger relationship problem or something like that. It's actually nice that not only she's successfully communicating with her husband, but also is in a loving relationship! It feels rare to see a complaint like this just be a light complaint. The straights for once are okay

[@BakaHoushi]

I remember it happening, and I remember making a few jokes about it but I also remember thinking it was getting a bit out of hand. Like, I still think the comics are a bit... weird? But at the same time, I saw it go from "harmless poking at a silly thing" to "outright harassment campaign" in record time.

[@FutureNoize]

So I just realized I'm the "mom" in this comic. I, and most importantly my so, have the very unfortunate situation of an absent mom. His mom is still around, has a great job, and no drinking or drug habit. We are separated though, and have been since he was 2 and he is 8 next month. He lives with me 90% of the year. His mom has never met his teacher, doctor, dentist, etc. She takes 2 vacations to Florida with friends yearly. She can't have him on weekends because that's "girls" nights. And she can't have him the day after a work day because she needs "rest after working 12hrs". Rest, as in the entire next day. Ive never been on a vacation without our son, never missed a doc appointment, got him all his vaccines, do his laundry, joined pta, etc. I can't imagine life without him and she can't imagine it with him. At first, I was exhausted and angry, and awful at it. I botched about it and people would say "thats fucked. What kind of a mom is that" and others would simply assume me a liar. However, 5yrs later, people believe me and I don't complain anyway. Though I do constantly think "how can she even fathom a vacation without him". My point is, at first, I had anger and then resentment, but now indifference. It's just life. She assumes I'll do it all because I do and it sucks but that's life and I couldn't imagine a life any other way. I am peach mom, and peach mom was right. It doesn't make her/me angry but it does suck a bit to do it all while the other has none of the emotional stress but also, that's who we are and it is ok

[@hektorsehmsdorf1336]

On the upside: unlike her you have a relationship with your son and that will likely last your whole life. As the adult son of a single dad I can tell you that I love and appreciate my dad very much and our relationship is much better and closer than any of the relationships my friends have with their dads (or moms. Single parents really form closer bonds with their children). I visit often and help him out as much as I can and next month we'll go on vacation together.

[@FutureNoize]

@@hektorsehmsdorf1336 it's a pretty amazing upside if I'm honest. Thanks for the kind words and enjoy your vacation!

[@rodrigo354]

Shit, it’s Friday and there’s a new Thoughtslime? World is coming up Rodrigo today

[@Cruelty-Torture]

Have a good one Rodrigo. ^^

[@rodrigo354]

@@Cruelty-Torture thanks, you too!!

[@TheEwqua]

I don't have kids and I'm not planning to but holy shit is the housework part accurate. My boyfriend isn't a bad person, but he just doesn't think to do this shit while I have 10,000 clocks running in my head at all times. If I don't remind him that it's time to take out the trash, we get a fly larvae infestation. Yes, it happened multiple times. If I don't remind him to put away the dishes that I've washed and let dry, a task that literally takes 30 seconds, he just won't do it even when the sink is already full and stinks. I was conditioned to notice these things and act, he wasn't, and unless it's absolutely health hazard level of disgusting, he just won't do it. And It's not just the physical labor but also the unseen planning and mental labor associated with household chores or any kind of trips or visits. It's the fact that it all rests on you and if you don't do it, nobody will. I feel incredibly exhausted. I feel unloved because my partner doesn't even think to take a few minutes out of his day to do his already tiny part of the chores, or hell, doesn't even think not to add more to mine by not leaving trash and dirty dishes around the house. And whenever I get mad at him for once again not doing his minor 30 second tasks, I stop myself and excuse his behavior as "he wasn't socialized to do it"... but like, should I? We've lived together for years and it has barely improved despite me communicating very clearly that it bothers me. At what point is it conditioning, and at what point does it become using conditioning as an excuse to get away with doing less? Am I naive for assuming ignorance when it could be an excuse, or am I "nagging" when I try to fix the issue? I feel like a lot of women in heterosexual relationships have these questions, and it just becomes really difficult to reconcile when the boyfriend/husband in question otherwise seems like a good person.

[@victorias.f.]

I'm sorry you and many other heterosexual women have to go through this :/ my parents are the 'old fashioned' type, that is, he doesn't do household chores but works to support our family (and I am grateful for him, don't get me wrong). Now that they're getting old my mom can't do as much as she used to, but she HAS to, because if she doesn't, no one else will. I try to help her whenever I can but I get home late from work, so it's hard. I hope you two can work things out, but it's very tiring when you are the only person making an effort, and usually, guys don't wanna bother with this kind of stuff. Things are changing and getting better, yeah, but it's way harder to teach and change adult behaviors

[@labelle9921]

I feel you, and I feel for you.I think you may have to consider that why, even after all these years of you clearly expressing how you feel and what your needs are, he's still doing the bare minimum. It's leaving you feeling exhausted and unloved and that's not good. People are capable of change, the excuse of conditioning only goes so far. My question for you is: Is how you've been feeling and living the last few years how you want to continue? Feeling unloved and exhausted and having the sole responsibility for keeping both your lives on track? Just some food for thought.

[@AP-uc7oz]

Holy shit I feel every. Single. Part. Of. This. I wanna cry after reading it and idk why. We’re only just now getting past our 2nd gnat infestation in 2 months. First culprit was when I tried to get him to do dishes and he took 4 days, the other when I asked him to take out the trash. His excuse is that he works full time and is never home. I’m a full time student and some days don’t finish work until 10 PM. No one WANTS to do chores, but they have to be done. Why do I have to do it all? I’ve got no clue how to get him to help. I’ve tried saying it straight that it bothers me, I’ve always given him a chance to do it on his own time, I’ve cried and broken down and it never changes. After 5 years together, and 2 years living together, I’m so tired.

[@Schemilix]

@@AP-uc7oz To you and OP, someone who sees you in obvious distress over something he could easily fix is just being a dick. The problem is so many guys are like this that they can get away with it because otherwise heterosexual women are just going to be alone forever. The one I hated most (I'm gay) was my step dad deliberately doing chores badly so my mother had to redo them until she just stopped bothering to ask him. It's manipulative and selfish yknow.

[@sophitiaofhyrule]

If he doesn't seem to care about how you feel that's really bad...

[@cgg2621]

Someone claiming to be peach dad posted on the SA forums when this was going down basically saying 'I'm fine, my wife is great, she noticed that comics about frustrations with her husband sometimes being doofy seemed to get more hits so that's why there's such a massive amount of them. I promise our marriage is fine'. He got bombarded with 'lol sever she's abusing you' comments even on relatively left wing SA

[@buttlicker7670]

Yeah, and she made a follow up post saying "my husband is incredible and actually does more domestic work than I do. I was just trying to make relatable content since I've been hustling on different side gigs for like a decade now"

[@TheProxy066]

What does "SA" mean in this context if you don't mind me asking? I know it can mean s*xual assault/abuse, but that wouldn't make sense in this context.

[@texxon3355]

@@TheProxy066 It might refer to the Something Aweful forums. But I’m not sure

[@Simon-vs2gk]

cishet man here and I wasn't gonna watch this video because I originally felt sorta attacked by the comic but then I did and you changed my mind, turns out I was just projecting my own context on it in an unhealthy and unreasonable way, thank you and I feel I have maybe grown a bit

[@vhs3760]

"stop applauding, we've got a lot to get through" cracked me up

[@adrenalynn1015]

Thanks for addressing this. It did feel so dismissive to have people deny that a large proportion of mothers are still responsible for childcare even when both partners are working full-time. Even if men do more laundry & chores, as a family you still need to figure out what children will do on pro-D days, during the summer, March break, xmas holidays etc, how to manage when they're ill, plus including what the children actually want to do with their time, and most of that falls to the moms. It's annoying & unhelpful when people who are not in a committed relationship with someone they love & have children with fling thoughtless comments around on how to solve other people's problems (the easiest problems to solve).

[@mirandawhittaker8481]

I can't help but wonder about the dismissive ones...a lot of non-parents I suspect.

[@ThatDudePlatina]

Being listened to is almost impossible. There’s always a jump to biases or past experiences to justify the leap, rather than listening and feeling through.

[@jessehenderson2967]

"seek to understand, not be understood"

[@dork7546]

K. Then maybe people like these chick should get a marriage therapist. She certainly could afford one since she revealed her husband is a laywer. Like, I don't hate her or anything. But like, maybe getting a marriage therapist would be better for her marriage than just venting through these comics?

[@gregorsamsa97]

@@dork7546 sounds like you're overestimating how heated she got about the situation, this is a casual slice of life comic..

[@null9090]

@@dork7546 ​ Are you saying that artists should just go to therapy instead of making art? Or does that only apply to artists you disagree with?

[@dork7546]

@@null9090 Umm, maybe they should keep on making art WHILE going to therapy, like I do? Making art is productive for you but it's not a substitute for therapy!

[@bethanythatsme]

My neurodivergent noggin has needed to delete all social media accounts other than KZbin because I fear that I'll say the thing that incurs the wrath of the mob. Probably irrational on my part, but stepping away has also allowed me to compare myself to others a lil less & that does help. Thank you for the atmosphere fostered & thought provoking content.

[@theideaofevil]

Oh god same. Even just the feeling of being in that kind of self imposed panopticon was enough to drive me a little neurotic. It's been over half a decade since I stopped using Twitter and I have zero regrets.

[@bethanythatsme]

@@theideaofevil 😊

[@AngelusOrpheus]

SAME 💀i said blizzard entertainment (the company that made world of warcraft) was racist and became the target of a hate mob that destroyed my notifications for like 2 days straight. And that was only a small hate mob, I can't imagine being a twitter main character for a day... Now I don't use twitter anymore its just not worth it

[@m0L3ify]

Same. I'm so glad I deleted Twitter and don't go to FB anymore. It's improved my mental health immensely!

[@gur262]

Ah well. If not the mob,then the bot. ...told someone running around in circles to confuse the killer robot won't work, given you can't run well with holes in your legs n stomach. Aaaaand boom 💥 soc media thought I wanted to shoot someone and didn't care to understand context cause it's governed by ...the same killer robot.

[@JH-yj7kk]

I have to admit that as a woman, I was triggered by Peach Mom, because it reminded me of my mom who definitely struggles with over functioning Peach guilt. Obviously, this negatively affects her, but I feel it negatively affected our family. Were their times when we fell short? I'm sure there were. But a lot of the time, it was her going far above and beyond what anyone expected of her and then guilt tripping for us not being appropriately grateful for the things no one asked (or sometimes even wanted) her to do. It was her privately setting extremely high standards, never communicating them, and then being frustrated when we didn't read her mind and meet them. It was her constantly criticizing us for not doing things the way she would do them, which was so clearly the right way that she could only conclude that if you chose another way it was because you were morally defective. It was her constantly taking charge of whatever we were doing because she didn't want to "deal with" the results when we inevitably messed it up. It really messes with your self esteem to be constantly disapproved of, even for something as small and innocuous as just eating a damn peach because it was there and you were hungry, and you failed to perform a moral audit of who might be more deserving of said peach. Obviously, this is a projection of my own baggage, and I see that now.

[@blueelectric5691]

hey thoughtslime, I've been a big fan for a long time and i love your videos. I'm not very far into this one but I wanted to bring something up. I watch your videos with subtitles on, and I can tell that they are manually captioned and its so great to have that accessibility with your videos, it means a lot. I wanted to say, and I know this isn't something a lot of people consider but when you have text on the bottom (like a little joke or a comment about not using tweets like in this video) a lot of people with subtitles will have to pause, turn off subtitles, read what you wrote, and then turn subtitles on again. It's not a huge deal and I certainly don't mind because I love what you put out, but it's just a little thing that I know you would like to know and take into consideration. I know you always take a lot of things into consideration when you make your videos and that you work hard on them. It means a lot and I hope that you don't take this comment negatively. Thank you so much for all that you do.

[@mitcharendt2253]

I'm trans and I've struggled with hygiene my whole life. it's really difficult to clean repair and maintain a body you dislike. the idea men don't have to keep clean may have reinforced this issue mildly.

[@doggytheanarchist7876]

I hear you. Went from overshowering 2-3 times a day for several hours sometimes, to only doing it when I absolutely need to for other ppl. Not for me. No balance in my self maintenance and care habits.

[@mitcharendt2253]

​@@doggytheanarchist7876 I hope the self care struggle gets easier for you. you matter. self love is radical act for us. stay safe fam.

[@Kerfloffels]

I've had this same struggle as a transfemme person, respecting my body to the same degree that cis women do is difficult not only because I feel like I don't deserve it, but because I wasn't told that it was necessary for most of my life.

[@tatertotbobaandpieck]

You know that Mildred wasn't talking about you though. There needs to be an end to the victimization.

[@viceroybolt3518]

This is the point where dysphoria and depression meet in the venn diagram. It's hard to take care of me when that just feels like me being a burden on one more person

[@unvexis]

I often wonder what it is like being a Twitter user. Videos like these help. I'm glad to watch at a distance. The farther the distance, the better.

[@inefffable]

I'm thankful I got off once Weird Twitre stopped being Funny and started being Less Funny

[@sabresister]

I bailed at least six months age and have been exponentially happier for it lol

[@michimatsch5862]

I have a theoretical interest in social media. Like with alcohol and smoking. The long and short term effects seem surprisingly similar.

[@notshardain]

@@michimatsch5862 you're not wrong with that assessment.

[@LeafyK]

Indeed

[@notarabbit1752]

I still maintain that those kids never would have eaten that peach. They'd take one bite and then stuff it in the couch cushions, and still somehow get peach juice on everything.

[@jeremygregorio7472]

My first thought was actually my family has a bad habit of everybody leaving the last anything for somebody else until it goes bad which is silly and I would rather it just get eaten. My second thought was most kids would rather have candy or ice cream

[@Allison_Hart]

I haven't finished watching this yet, but my first thought is: How terrifying it would be to suddenly "go viral." We (content creators ex-cheth-ra) all daydream about it happening to us. And yet, the idea of becoming suddenly famous in a way that is completely *out of your control* and now everyone is making fun of you on a mass scale greater than your mind can comprehend. Terrifying.

[@glitchedoom]

"Sharing a peach is a lot like a good marriage ..." "Just eat the damn peaches!"

[@m0L3ify]

Being constantly criticized by my mother for eating the last of anything that she happened to be saving for herself or others without telling anyone is why leftovers accumulate in my fridge as an adult. I'm still saving food for my mom, and she's dead. Please eat the last peach. We can buy more.

[@oil_moon]

Everything you say seems to be right on par with the chaos I have resonating in my head, but presented in a coherent manner. Keep it up!

[@tamatebako_yt]

My thoughts!

[@itsathing3369]

This was my first thought slime video that I ever watched.

[@1BlueYoshi]

My dad was definitely the one who would save the fruit for the rest of the family. Sometimes though, we didn't even want the fruit, so my advice is that if you're a parent, eat the damn peach! God knows you deserve it

[@DeathnoteBB]

For real. I always wanna leave food for others but often times it just never gets eaten, anyway.

[@hunter5028]

I think we can often forget the being empathetic doesn't necessarily mean excusing someones toxic behavior or carelessness. Empathy is always warranted especially since we hardly ever have to full truth. I like this take Mildred!

[@theangryholmesian4556]

Yep. You can understand something without excusing it.

[@RedBlueProductions1]

you should put like an 80s cartoon thunder sound on top of the "no more than one email" bit, it'll be funny

[@jacksonduruy4303]

I personally was very traumatized as a child when my father snatched up the last right peach and threw it in the blender and looked me dead in the eyes and said "what a great treat for my smoothy!" And then hit the blend button while laughing manically! Then he guzzled the smoothy down an inch from my face and said "NO PEACHES FOR YOU! YOU MISTAKE OF A CHILD!" My father was a monster.

[@neilwickman]

Darn right he was, he ate a peach pit!

[@paulsmart4672]

@@neilwickman Pretty alpha move, honestly.

[@neomcdoom]

He sounds kind of based

[@rowan-priince1860]

THE LOATHSOME PEACH EATER

[@ianhunt9520]

Mildred, you truly are our non-gender specific hereditary monarch

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

pretty sure anarchist Mildred would be unhappy in that role

[@foodfornot]

Hereditary but like the movie

[@kittywhiskers996]

I’m a mom and I didn’t start applauding, I started crying. 😅 Aaah… Thought Slime 💜💚💜💚

[@BlackFireChasm]

I love not being on Twitter anymore and then watching KZbin videos of Twitter discourse and just going on the journey. It's more enjoyable this way than the stress of doomscrolling.

[@KH-zr6pt]

It did really surprise me that leftists were also piling on, in fact I didn't really see anyone have a balanced response to this comic, which was not saying anything you wouldn't see in 100 different Facebook memes your aunt might share. It was weird to me that pointing out how childcare falls primarily on women and how that negatively impacts them and families as a whole is a pretty basic feminist concept that gets discussed a lot, yet somehow the way the comic was phrased seemed to suck out any potential empathy people would have for this woman. To me, the comic was using a small example to point out a larger issue - the wife thinks about the family as a collective and puts her children first (which is perhaps not a healthy mindset but one that is very engrained in the expectations of motherhood), while the husband has the freedom to still think in an individualistic manner and doesn't factor his children into every decision he makes in the same way his wife does. Obviously it seems silly when applied to something like "the last peach" because you can just go get more peaches, but it seemed clear that this is something that happens on a larger scale within their relationship. And yeah, talking about your issues with your husband rather than making a passive aggressive comic about it would probably be more ideal but, again, I think this is a larger issue and there's just generally an idea that, "this is just how men and women are different so, maybe it gets on your nerves from time to time, but ultimately there's nothing you can do about it". There are so many similar comics and memes out there that it really does seem bizarre how this one in particular seemed to set off the "meninist" in everyone, so to speak lol

[@Lucifer-Riding]

Laughed relentlessly through this whole video, your delivery is always so darn good. Also pausing on the laundry one to read her blurb and contextualize it and she was like 'if anyone wants to offer any actual constructive help (as in blow it up from space, set it on fire etc.) feel free to do so, none of that Marie Kondo/fold it in front of the TV crap' and I feel her frustration so hard lmao. I managed to resist dunking on her by being like 'oh I have someone like that in my family too' and her grouchy complaint didn't strike me as something which required the OMG THE MISANDRY ERIC GET MY WRIST BRACE I'VE GOT SOME TWEETING TO DO reaction but here we are.

[@Taydris0]

Thanks for including the poop and assholes part, TS. It was the right move. The content warning for the poop and assholes was masterfully professional.

[@mirrorocean]

Great video - I was never someone who thought that Husband CharacterTM was in the right, but I’d seen a lot of supposedly trustworthy people on social media using Wife as an example of how not to communicate in a relationship, suggesting she was almost as toxic as husband. It’s easy to assume that these people who normally espouse good advice have read up on all the context and know what they’re talking about, but this video reminded me of the always-important lesson that you need to look at context yourself. Otherwise the cycle of ‘hey, I trust this person, I’ll share this’ will go on forever. I hope peach mom is able to take this in stride, she seems like a strong person. And I hope anyone who saw the situation like I did sees this video - I really needed the reminder! x

[@Vesperitis]

I'm going to respectfully request that we stop calling it a culture 'war'. Not because there isn't a fight that we must struggle against in order to bring equality to everyone, but because calling it a 'war' kinda labels the people fighting in it as 'warriors' or 'soldiers', and someone who rages on Twitter is the furthest thing from a warrior. Internet trolls do not deserve that level of respect or dignity.

[@melanieg.9092]

It is referred to as culture war in reference to the naz!s and so on by right wingers. If lefties use the term they usually refer in an ironic fashion to the right wings association of changing of the culture with war. But maybe you knew this and I'm stating the obvious here ...

[@DeathnoteBB]

Also maybe we can just stop normalizing violence and war

[@zoebrandon-smith8184]

Agreed, weird to state outright that implying someone is in a war inherently grants them respect. Instead, maybe just spit on more war memorials 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@matthewlehman7937]

I actually am personally friends with her and she is such a great person and doesn’t hate men (like me)

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

Assuming you're not joking - how is she? I hope the tsunami of attention wasn't too negative and resulted in a bunch of appreciative new followers.

[@tortenschachtel9498]

Asking for clarification: with "like me" do you mean you hate men or you are a man?

[@goldsnake90]

@@tortenschachtel9498 why not both?

[@matthewlehman7937]

@@tortenschachtel9498 ha, yeah, it's ambiguous -- I am a man

[@matthewlehman7937]

@@RoamingAdhocrat No I'm not joking, she was pretty freaked out and considered stopping the comics when she first started getting doxxed and abused, but I think she's decided to double down and say $@&% that

[@MrMelkor98]

Oh God, that "Other Mother" jumpscare! Well done!

[@DrZaius3141]

The entire "Yeah, you have to do three times as much work, but I have to listen to you complaining about that" is essentially the entire (half-page) MRA handbook. "Yes, systemic opression, yadayada, BUT WHY DO WOMEN GET SO MANY MATCHES ON DATING APPS AND MEN DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONT. Sniff. it's so unfair. i have it so hard. and i don't even get sexually harrassed, that sounds like a lot of fun."

[@DeathnoteBB]

Seriously MRAs will really cry over… not being harassed… Like I get men want attention but jfc. Maybe don’t tell women to their face “At least YOU get verbally abused!!!”

[@hoominbeeing]

@@DeathnoteBB Lol no. MRAs have far more grievances than the strawmen you present. 1. MGM (male g3nital mut1lation) is legal in many western countries 2. It's legal and sometimes legally required to give hiring preferences to women in many western countries. This doesn't just applies to the corporate sphere deciding to do this of their own will, but also the state itself as well forcing it (see California requiring by law that x amount of women be in a company's board of directors) 3. Men are drafted, women are not. Even in peaceful countries like the US, men are still forced to sign up for selective service. 4. Duluth model in the US. Law enforcement are explicitly trained to discriminate against men 5. The legal definition of r@pe, until very recently (even then, not in all western countries) excluded female criminals. This is especially important because non-r@pe s3xual assault has a lesser punishment and less social stigma. So the law is hard coded to give women less time for the same crime. And this is *just* naming the *law* explicitly discriminating against men.

[@gigangreg7837]

@@hoominbeeing They might try talking about those more

[@endmark_3447]

@@hoominbeeing The thing is, yes, all of this is true, along with more toxic social expectations for men, and these are real problems that should be addressed. But people so often throw these facts at people who talk about women's problems, specifically to make the point that "men have it just as bad, therefore we shouldn't pursue women's rights... because", and someone self-identifying as a MRA increases the likelihood of them doing that. It doesn't matter who "has it worse", we should acknowledge that literally every single person suffers from unfair expectations of one form or another, and each one should be addressed, not disregarded in favor of another one. And the problems men face aren't excluded from feminist ideas btw. If someone disregards a feminist message because they "care about men's issues too", there's a good likelihood they didn't mean that "too".

[@hoominbeeing]

@@endmark_3447 "some self identifying as an MRA increases the likelihood" Prove it with statistics. Otherwise you have no right to refuse the claim "lol I'm just going to assume someone is a misandrist if they call themselves a feminist because there's a high likelihood they are". Unsupported claims can be countered with an unsupported opposing claim. Also, the post I was responding to was claiming MRAs talk about inconsequential issues, I was merely presenting valid issues MRAs cars about as opposed to their strawmen

[@pkmcburroughs]

"I'm half cupcake, half toilet" Okay. For some reason, that made me laugh really hard when I wasn't expecting to laugh really hard.

[@nw1317]

Your Eyeball Zone transitions are getting more and more (gloriously) unhinged. Please never stop, cupcake though you may be.

[@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080]

to the extent I would criticize peach mom, its for one thing. Expressing frustration to her husband for societal biases is one thing, however even in her original post she talks about publically shaming him. If we are supposed to reflect on the negative attention brought about by even talking about such a comic on her by anti-feminists (which is very fair, much like how anti-the last jedi talk fed the anti-sjw crowd), then surely some degree of responsibility is similarly held on her for using a singular, specific individual in such a public regard. Misconception was bound to happen from the get-go, the question was "is it going to be people who take in the patriarchy version and get angry at her" or "people who take the mentality too seriously and blame the husband instead of society". It wasnt a comic setup fit for social topics because the avatars were real people, and it was going to end up hurting someone if it blew up

[@snorpenbass4196]

It's interesting what social patriarchy mores are a thing in different Western cultures. Like...being Swedish from a fairly comfortably middle-class family, my mom never was much for being the Caregiver - if she was home early she'd just do some gardening for fun, if dad was home early he made fun food for the kids (spaghetti, usually) and hung out with us and did some laundry. But this is not the same for everyone in Sweden. All sorts of factors separate us, from birth culture, religion, upbringing, politics, etcetera. In our case, my mom and dad were staunchly old-school lefties and considered child-rearing as something non-gendered - whoever was available did the work. Ironically, my maternal grandma was old-school right-wing patriarchy-rah-rah "traditional", and mom kind of hated her for it. No judgment, just saying that sometimes, people will do good things just to spite the ones who did them wrong. As a result, when I see lists of what's "traditional" for men and women, I have to readjust to "Oh yeah, this is what a lot of people out there still do/believe." My family never did that. I'm neither proud nor ashamed of that, it's just a "huh" thing. Now, my family fucked up in many _other_ ways, but that's a whole 'nother conversation.

[@LauraLovesHugs]

yea it's definitely interesting coming from a very areligious household that shares chores equally etc and hearing about how this sort of thing is considered normal and expected. it like requires a refocus and perspective shift each time because it just feels so weird and archaic that people still do this kind of thing. like obviously there's still a lot of unconscious biases etc but something as base level as "the woman is expected to do all the chores" and such feels like something out of the 1970s.

[@kennyl4699]

I grew up in an areligious household in urban Michigan and I can relate to this. It's wild to think some people still believe things like this.

[@wesleywyndam-pryce5305]

when did people start saying areligious instead of atheist? this is new to me. is there a difference?

[@LauraLovesHugs]

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 for me it's mostly just that like my family isn't like actively anti-religious which is the sentiment i associate with the term atheist, they just don't personally believe in any deity and don't have a problem with people who do.

[@cbpd89]

I grew up in a very religious household where my dad was the one who got me ready for school and was the one who volunteered in the classroom. My Dad had the more flexible work schedule, so it was easier to be the one who did those things. Then my grandma came and lived with us and she took on some of those parenting roles. I guess I knew people who thought the "traditional" family style was best, but I didn't really strongly link that to religion until later in life, though for some folks I guess that is practically synonymous.

[@emperortime4380]

I have never not tried to carry every bag of groceries. It is how I know I am a strong boy.

[@BarnacleBoy42069]

As a straight cis man I never understood why some guys don't wash their ass properly, I mean I worry about smelling like ass all the time so I make sure I wash it real good. If that makes me gay call me queen Laqueefa

[@wolfferoni]

I wouldn't be surprised if most guys that smelt like ass were used to the smell and didn't actually realise that they did. When you're around a smell 24/7 you can become kinda nose blind to it so that's your normal.

[@radiationshepherd]

I feel like anyone who knows the term "swamp ass" wouldn't neglect to clean their ass

[@tomisaacson2762]

It blows my mind that this is a thing. How tf do you NOT wash your ass??? Jfc

[@DMO-DMO-DMO]

When I encountered this main character on the Bird App it was definitely through the laundry one, not the peach one

[@RobertWSquirrel]

This video is a good companion piece to a recent video on The Leftist Cooks channel, “You’re Wrong About Dunking”.

[@OmegaSoypreme]

I often worry that I spend too much time online, especially on the bird site. But the fact I've never heard about any of this before makes me realise that really isn't the case. Thank you, Slime!

[@sleepynarwhal2103]

I paused at the cleaning doughnut holes part to write this: I'm an afab and i totally resonate with your take till this point. I don't get how people that are feminist look at the peach comic and equate it to a boomer I hate my spouse thing... I think the unpaid house labour that usually falls on afab people needs as much attention as possible. I personally come from a family with this dynamic turned up to a 100. My dad is basically another child my mom takes care of...

[@FumbleSquid]

Thankyou for pointing this out. I really did feel uncomfortable with a lot of the backlash even from lefty people

[@marekjones9555]

4:20 starting your "charitable read" arc, after like a year of dunk videos, with peach mom of all people is very on brand lol

[@MattewMatterson]

A potentially interesting point-- my wife does not have the "but the kids would need..." thoughts (similar to the way the father in this video is portrayed). She does not think about feeding the kids, their laundry, Christmas presents, budgeting, etc. I do. And I am the bread winner (I work 60hrs a week in a salaried position while she works 20-25hrs in an hourly position). Being the primary person domestically AND financially is extremely stressful and upsets the two parent balance to the point that it feels like being a single parent. Maybe the trading of roles achieves superior balance. I'll tell you this-- feeling like a single parent when two adults live in the home is pretty brutal.

[@mookiestewart3776]

good thing the woman writing these comics isn't in that position then since she stated her husband is the breadwinner

[@rochellerodriguez6431]

Yeah, I would say you are experiencing the double role fatigue that a majority of working women experience in heterosexual relationships. I think it is admirable that you have taken this opportunity to find a place of empathy for others that are in a similar situation to you. I hope for things to someday improve in your home life too, no one should have to "do it all". There have been studies done showing women more often feel less of a burden after becoming a single parent through a divorce because they don't have to clean up after their kids and their partner.

[@Loonaverse412]

Yeah, that sounds rough. And seems like a one-way path to burnout. I know this is tired advice, but it's also the only thing i as an internet stranger can say to you. Have you talked to her about it? Without undercutting just how rough this is for you. (I know from experience that some people want to soften the blow by pretending a problem is less serious than it is, but that is just wothholding information from your wife which, as your wife, she should want to know because she cares for your wellbeing) I am not sure exactly what your job is but a 60 hour workweek is too much for anyone and if it's possible for her to take on a few more hours so you can go back to a 40 hour workweek without getting in trouble money-wise that'd take some of the pressure of.

[@Scarnehu]

As a cool demi-dude with a rad attitude, I INSISTED on a Bidet. A bidet I use substantially more than my wife.

[@meaverly]

fr a bidet attachment has been the best “from me, for us” gift my cishet husband ever bought

[@theideaofevil]

The quality of life increase from having a bidet is _wild_

[@sentientnatalie]

Queer woman here, I wish I had a bidet, but I don't own this house.

[@Scarnehu]

@@sentientnatalie you can get a cheap on on Amazon that basically just snaps under your toilet seat. Wouldn't hurt to ask considering it's like a 5 minute set up and goes in/takes out with very little effort

[@sentientnatalie]

@@Scarnehu How interesting! I wonder how such a device would convey fluid? Does this particular item have a specific name or will "attachable bidet" do?

[@lydiasteinebendiksen4269]

The writing in this one is above and beyond. I am never disappointed by a Thought slime video, but this one actually had me impressed by the sheer smoothness and cleverness of the script. Well done, you definitely deserve a peach 🙂

[@mattgoettl6796]

Man, I love this channel. You're a wonderfully gifted presenter. Your unique blend of dry humor and charismatic presentation takes your well-thought-out presentation and makes it much more entertaining to watch and listen to. Thanks for being you, and making these videos!

[@et_aliae]

im in my yummy snack arc. im such a fruitpilled peachcel

[@NealBauer]

OK, time out.. I have taken showers EXCLUSIVELY to wash my a**. Not because I have sh*t all over myself, but because I wasn't feeling particularly clean. Now, if someone doesn't wash their feet, THAT I can understand. Again, not because I don't, but because feet are really far down there and it takes a lot of effort to crouch down and fold your body into a z-shape in a confined space. But seriously, wash your a**es, people! It's like #1 on the body wash to do list. ಠ_ಠ

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

I usually forget to wash the bottoms of my feet specifically, y’know, since I’m standing on them. But yeah, I agree. Swimsuit area is one of the top priorities, up there with armpits.

[@chaosgit1]

i would kill for a bidet. hate having to shower every time i poop, being naturally hairy butted.

[@Boggythefroggy]

I saw this weird twitter piece of history go down as well and did feel something was off seeing people on my feed implying the couple should break up or it was just the straights not being okay, and the wife was being passive aggressive etc. Like you said it was people who I usually agree with on political and moral stuff so it was pretty weird, and I’m glad you made a video on it honestly cos I nearly forgot all about it.

[@mariewasgehtsiedasan6045]

Man, your videos have been really on time for me lately. When you posted your last video, I was struggling with exam season and not taking all the exams I planned to, even though i was completely exhausted, and your video made me feel a whole lot better about it. last week, i cut off contact to my father who is completely unwilling to make any accomodations for me when i visit him over the holidays (such as not calling female politicians bitches) or even accept when i make him food. He refuses to talk about things that bother him or how we could function better as a family, but seeing as my mother recently died, this is not only even more cruel now, but I also have no reason to visit now. And, once again, your video makes me feel better about that. so thanks

[@jamesbentley2544]

The misogynist death loop graphic deserved more screen time, it was the funniest thing I've seen all day! It's 3 in the morning, so that's not very much of a day, but it was still very funny and I would be surprised if I saw anything funnier in the rest of the day. You're doing a great job! Love, Dad