Line 6 HX Stomp VS Helix!

[@TheArbiterOfTruth]

For those of you coming to this video in 2021, the HX Stomp’s 3.01 software release updated it from 6 to 8 blocks! It’s pretty great.

[@frankvazquez5974]

Crap. Thanks for this detail. Was considering a Helix LT due to this limitation but now have to reconsider...

[@TheArbiterOfTruth]

@@frankvazquez5974 for me, since I already had a BigSky and a TimeFactor, the HX Stomp is perfect. When I add a 2 button external switch, it basically becomes: Amp/cab/noise gate/tuner/compression/OD/amp drive/chorus/octave/tremolo I have a 3D printed button that adds a “4th tuner button” to the pedal. My entire rig essentially is 3 pedals and a volume pedal 😂

[@jemandthemystery]

@@TheArbiterOfTruth I am in a eerily similar position to you (except Volante & Big Sky). Considering the Stomp (mostly for the new Princeton ”US Princess” model) but don’t fully understand from your post how you are using your switcher. 1. Which switcher? 2. What switch does what?

[@TheArbiterOfTruth]

@@jemandthemystery I thought I replied, my apologies! So, you’ll want a Mosky dual switch. You can get it on Amazon for about $25 (the price fluctuates a few dollars up and down sometimes) and a TRS cable. You’ll plug that into the FS4/5 port on the back of the HX Stomp, you can then assign blocks to FS 4 and 5. The 3D printed button you’ll have to search online, but you should find the file to print it.

[@jemandthemystery]

@@TheArbiterOfTruth No worries, thank you!

[@cheeher3212]

Should have just played the same guitar or similar guitar.

[@donatlopr]

i put my comment and i notice that you have the same reaction than me... nice video but not fair

[@XanderYTV]

for sure. 2 single coil guitar vs a humbucker/p90 guitar.

[@justincider4375]

It's the exact same sounds, we know that so there is no point A/B'ing identical tones. They are mostly showing the differences in functionality between the two units. It makes more sense for them to use different guitars, really, as you get an idea of what the amps sound like with different pickups, so they cover a little more ground that way.

[@route6666]

They’re not even the same pickup

[@0987__]

One is a $3000 guitar, the other, maybe $400

[@frankvazquez5974]

I don't get people freaking out about the two different guitars. This video is very useful to demo how the two different units work side by side and is extremely useful. The units have the same sound , guitars don't matter.

[@mikeriesco6174]

Good intentions, but really...we all know that if the insides are identical (circuit designs, algorithms, etc), then of course the sounds will be identical. That is a given, no need to "prove" it to us -- which, of course, you didn't, given the 2 different guitars and players...why didn't you use 1 guitar & player, with a signal splitter box feeding both units? At any rate, what would have been useful is to see the actual Differences (e.g. the Stomp's fewer fx loops, lack of XLR, only 6 blocks can be used, etc), and show us how those limitations operationally limit what it does, compared with the Helix.

[@samuelguymer4358]

No. A change in form factor can greatly effect sound quality as the topology of a circuit will change. The physical layout of the product and circuits will effect cross talk distortion , intermodular distortion, total harmonic distortion and noise floor. So regardless being the same dsp and software they could sound different.

[@collinkamryn3185]

Instablaster

[@MatthewDuminy]

Can we just take a moment and appreciate how full that Suhr sounds

[@everennui1]

it sounds like a Telecaster.

[@manuedwards6959]

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[@jakestewartmusic]

I would love to see you demonstrate HX Stomp in a song. We all know that HX Stomp sounds just like Helix and it sounds great. We all know it’s easy to use. But the video that’s missing right now is showing how much can still be done in a real musical context. What is it like switching banks and snapshots from song to song? Would love a practical application video with songs and context, because you guys are great demonstrators and players

[@bennettskb555]

Jake Stewart Music Exactly....

[@jakestewartmusic]

Yeah, hopefully someone takes on that approach soon. I think that most people are looking at HX Stomp thinking "oh that's cool, but how can I really get away with only 3 stomp switches and maybe an expression pedal?"... Someone should address those concerns. It'd be even better if Line 6 got a ton of famous guitarists to play 2-3 songs each like they're doing their normal live show, with all of their sounds and effects dialed in. Perhaps even break down their patches, how they use the unit, and if they needed to incorporate external gear to get their normal sounds.

[@planetside11]

Thank you, guys, for making this video comparison for us. I'm relatively new to the world of multi-effects and modeling, so you've helped me decide to go for the Stomp. Thanks again. It's a like from me.

[@markmckinney9821]

The video any true line 6 fan wants. It's nice to see the helix is the landmark that everything is compared to. That's a PHENOMENAL idea

[@dcostagtr]

I believe that if they used the same guitar for both pedals, the sound would be much closer. Unfortunately, the differences between the instruments, which are not few, influence the final result.

[@BrockDavisson]

Great video but why wouldn't they be the same tone? Same engine in both etc..

[@JiTiAr35]

why not same guitar and same player? nice video btw.

[@tmartino2]

@@eduardoandreasguitar uhhh...those are 2 totally different guitars. That's going to effect the sounds A LOT.

[@tmartino2]

@@eduardoandreasguitar what? No. We should see how it sounds with the same player and the same guitar.

[@tmartino2]

@@eduardoandreasguitar clearly you don't play guitar, and if you do, you don't play with anyone else or through multiple pieces of gear.

[@tmartino2]

@@eduardoandreasguitar yeah, and your response doesn't make sense, so I clarified. Until you play guitar with multiple people and use multiple pieces of gear, I suggest you stop giving advice or opinions. If what I have been saying doesn't make sense to you, then again, you shouldn't be giving input.

[@tmartino2]

@@eduardoandreasguitar dude, they even admit that they are using different guitars so the sound isn't going to be the same. If you are trying to get an idea of tone, you should be using the same guitar and player through both units. The purpose of this video is to compare the Stomp and the Helix.

[@TheWiccanGirl]

Great videos so far, one function I'm not sure you will go through tho is how good does it sound through a decent pair of headphones?

[@HawkMcDork]

well, i'm sold on the Suhr tele

[@josephsacher1048]

Great video! Exactly what I needed to help me decide on which one to buy. Cheers from Florida!

[@GuitarAge]

So which one you bought?

[@betterthandeadohyea4500]

"Give us a lick and we'll give you a lick back" LOL

[@chris_2714]

Great video! Thanks for going over the programming differences.

[@psofoss]

can you all shut this negative comments and appreciate Jack's playing?

[@Luxdg]

So, if i’ll buy an HX Stomp and i will put into my pedalboard you are telling me wich i can use as a Swiss Army stompbox and as a Standalone unit if i add amp simulation into a PA System?

[@pietroamorettimusic]

esatto. fa paura

[@daacrusher2001]

Hey guys, good video - how did you amplify these two?

[@adventurepromo]

The same mutated part of my brain that thinks that hot rod station wagons are cool really wants a Pacifica.

[@BipityBopity93]

I just bought a Stomp and the first thing I noticed was how fast I run out of dsp. Anyone have any suggestions on how to navigate this? Can I create paths or at I just hosed? And I mean, amp and capo pitch and I’m done. Lol

[@frankvazquez5974]

That doesn't sound good as someone considering the different models. Try getting the Native software at a discount and use your computer perhaps. No way around the unit itself...

[@BipityBopity93]

@@frankvazquez5974 If you are using a bunch of FX I’d definitely recommend the full helix. The stomp is on my pedal board just as an amp/cab sim at this point. I have all my fx separate.

[@jjbarneii]

Hello, I bought this pedalboard and I tested on the amp's returno and it was too bad the simulations of amplifiers. You can make a video linking it on the amp's return and how to configure it. I realize that there is no way. Just a miracle. IT IS EXCELLENT BUT ON THE AMP RETURN IS HORRIBLE, BUT WITH CABS SIMULATION ARRIVES IN AN EQUITABLE ACCEPTABLE. LAMENTABLE ... CAN YOU HELP ME?

[@edinburghtumuran916]

So cool comparison! Thanks!

[@adamellison2497]

That strat with the soapbar looks so rad

[@JohnFichtner]

I like the fact that the helix has a wah/volume pedal. Nobody mentioned that.

[@BrankyMusic]

Using different guitars is such an unforgivable mistake

[@Heikken]

And why is it a mistake? This video is showcasing the differences in using the units, how to program same tones. Not the tones themselves. They could have done the video without any guitars and it would have been fine. Find something else to complain about instead.

[@luicet9430]

Off course...they should have use the same guitar...and using same way of playing...so...

[@AarniJoakim]

@@luicet9430 No need to use same guitar, player etc. The units sound identical.

[@tomulator]

But...can the HX Stomp switch amp channels on your amp?

[@glennweber9290]

The decision to use two different guitars for something like this is baffling.

[@pjwright82]

With the HX for example if you have 6 pedals in your chain, is it possible to have independent control to turn on and off all 6 individually? Or just groups i.e time based, OD etc.

[@Josescobar98]

Phill3012 yes, usong the footswitch if morning star

[@Luzuuu]

Exactly what I needed, thanks!

[@JPIndustrie]

eh, would it have killed you to just use an A/B box and play the same thing twice on the same guitar?

[@Behc23]

Can you assign multiple pedals in one switch? Like a lead od effect and a delay effect. One switch will turn it on on stomp mode?

[@Behc23]

Ik it would work on snapshot but I’m thinking about stompbox mode so you still have the controls of the effects on screen. Just like looper/switcher

[@PeachGuitars]

Yes you can - when you assign your second block to the switch, you just have to select ‘merge’ rather than ‘replace’. Thanks for watching!

[@JohnyMad1988]

What kind of comparison is a Pacifica vs a Suhr? What the hell!

[@daacrusher2001]

What's your preferred method for amplifying the Helix (or Stomp)?

[@rengamz]

Can you do a video with mooer pre amp live, combined with helix hx effects pls? Thanks!

[@bleckybob]

MrEphi123 that’s what I use. I’ve got the Mesa boogie and the ac30 amp modelers from mooer. I really want to try the matchbox (matchless) preamp

[@macsoto6947]

Yamaha vs Suhr... Finally....

[@thef4lsepr0phet]

If it had more blocks, DSP and access to plug in a microphone with a seperate signal flow I would still have the stomp

[@prs22gt10]

Very enjoyable and informative video. I'm a Helix owner (running primarily stereo to FOH) and I have an HX Stomp on order. Can't wait to try it out! My plan is to create a second pedal board with Strymon Timeline and Mobius in the FX loop of the HXS. I think will be awesome. Hopefully your future videos will cover such scenarios and perhaps midi control from the HXS to outboard pedals such as the Strymons. By the way, I have to say that Suhr T sounds amazing!! Thanks Peach Guitars! Subscribed!

[@finallyandrey]

Ron Singley i’m thinking of doing the same man. Would you mind sharing your experience if you ever went for that setup? Thank you.

[@spbjr82]

does the stomp support channel switching with your amp?

[@lpgoog]

Can u interchange patches between both products?

[@jairguitarrologia]

Don't touch me

[@adventurepromo]

My first thought. lol

[@EdArmGuitar]

At least guitars are in tune ;)

[@thenothing2786]

why did you guys use two completely different sounding guitars?

[@wolvesandguitars]

How do you simulate not having XLR out to FOH. Should I get a direct box now. LT was killer without but Can stomp have same great output options , Hope that makes sense .

[@PeachGuitars]

You could just use a TRS to XLR cable to achieve the same thing, I have read that the outputs are balanced so that should work fine.

[@MOAB-UT]

Definitely should have only used one guitar and the same player. Pick-ups and feel effect tone big time. He should have done 3 to 5, A / B type comparisons then share quick thoughts and called it a wrap. 5-10 minute video tops. Bottom line, they sounded mostly the same only one costs nearly 2x more and is bigger.

[@jorgegvb]

HX Stomp is perfect for the player that likes the Helix, but finds the full blown unit to be overkill. 6 functional blocks is plenty for most guitar players. Professionals will benefit from the more expensive unit.

[@paramediccpo]

Hx effects if you using your own amp

[@DizzyKrissi]

this should cost well above 500€ here in Europe - for some extra cash you'll get the Helix LT

[@shamsel-din547]

I LOVE THE P90 ON THE YAMAHA OMG SO PRETTEEEH

[@AC-hz4xq]

Please do more videos about the HX STOMP.

[@sneifert1968]

Different pickups as well.

[@siegmac3267]

Can anybody tell the difference of zoom g3xn from these pedals sound wise?

[@frankvazquez5974]

Helix is god.

[@Stefan-]

Hmm... One block amp+cab and nothing more, where is the reverb coming from ?

[@Fabian-tx9re]

This yamaha guy is everywhere tho.

[@MrWilander88]

An A/B Switch would have been the key in this comparison.

[@charliemore2726]

Great video, but the same guitar would’ve been perfect!

[@axelherrera9943]

actually it'll be just logic

[@powersurgefive7484]

you forgot to add in the 3rd type of player ,which is me A POOR MOTHERFUCKER !!! the stomp is almost a 3rd of the price of the Helix and half of the LT, Im very happy with the stomp and yes new to mods but if they were the same price id go for the fullsize

[@sebastianvalenzuela4155]

Almost perfect, but, different guitars? dont work!. I think Yamaha's Pacifica its a great guitar, but, really, vs a Suhr telecaster? big mistake in there.

[@irvgotti94]

They could of atleast used the same guitar

[@JohnFichtner]

You could have used the word "have" instead of "of".

[@patrickedwards2158]

Why spend $600 on this one when the LT is a few dollars more

[@user-oy7gz5bf2h]

Patrick Edwards I got a pedalboard. Was interested in the Hx Effects, but found it too big. This is great! It would replace the M9 on my board as the jack of all trades. Still want my amps and pedals, so size is very important.

[@PanicKJ]

Sometimes you need to play direct, but perhaps it have a killer pedalboard already, This is the perfect addition to make any pedal board fly ready, also perfect headphone practice gig

[@sandersander9009]

Telecaster plays more nasty brither sound

[@nomakills]

Dont sound the same at all … why not playing with the same guitar 🤦

[@donatlopr]

Nice video, but it should be both with the same guitar to be fair...

[@brianjenkins5973]

Don't touch me! 😂

[@Dimas5]

So you’re paying $1000 more just for more buttons?

[@brooklynboy1000]

Let's go boys speed it up. Edit this down for quicker view. I'm not knitting sweaters here

[@thatguyfromthatband7746]

why...... why is it always classic rock sounds? no thanks

[@MIGUMETANIAC]

Bla bla bla

[@istrati73]

talk too much, you have to go out to the International language, and this is music! play. After all, 95% of the Planet do not understand you!

[@lforte3657]

Not good test Why do it this way ????