Peak Days for Daylight Rut Movement

[@northernforestwhitetail]

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[@tonynienas169]

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[@northernforestwhitetail]

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[@Bryan-wc3et]

Great info, I’m retired and hunt last week of October and first 2 weeks of November so i NEVER miss pre or rut. Retirement is great🏹🏹🦌🦌

[@MRick-cd1kr]

lucky bastard lol

[@donaldvonlintig8445]

God -Bless !!! at 63 and 6 weeks of vacation , I never miss the pre or rut either, but if I retire, I might get burnt out, hunting too much... is that possible ? LO.L'S !!

[@Bryan-wc3et]

@@donaldvonlintig8445 I have cut back quite a bit last few years,just around my birthday first of October then those prime 3 weeks. I have 2 grandsons in high school playing football so they take priority over hunting.

[@waynesly6116]

Retired n 65 hunt - before pre rut, pre rut, rut, post rut n after post rut. God is Great!! Living my dream👍💪👆🙏

[@Livindagoodlife]

Same here. Never a bad day to be in the woods, only better ones! Good luck this season. 🦌

[@nybbhUSA]

i really appreciate the effort it must have taken to collect all of this data. Please keep it coming.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@nybbhUSA you bet- thanks for the note- good luck this season!

[@dalepeterman3588]

Great work here. Thank for the time and effort not only you put in collecting the pictures but putting it into the formula and sharing it with the rest of us. Well done.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@dalepeterman3588 thank you- good luck this season!

[@peternelson7544]

I've got almost 20 years of pictures in the big woods of Northern WI and can confirm your data is spot on. I've also noticed the mid Oct. bump. My theory is that is when the bachelor groups are breaking up and the bucks are starting to set there territories. Lots of rubs and scrapes start showing up at that time. They also are hitting food sources for one last bulk up before the rut.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@peternelson7544 interesting- and your theory makes sense. I’ve also pondered if it has to do with a certain percentage of does (a very small percentage) that come into estrus early before the typical estrus cycle. But that doesn’t totally add up in my head either. Anyways- thanks for sharing and good luck this fall!

[@dmouse522]

​@@northernforestwhitetail I think you're correct. I see a peak in late October and then a drop before the big activity. I think it's a bit of estrus in the air for the first time. Lots of work in doing this, thanks.

[@jesserichardson2519]

I typically see a mid-October flurry of buck activity, too. My belief is it has to do with the first hard frost of the fall. It seems to really get them up and moving.

[@RJ-qq8kb]

I’m in northern Mn as well. Have you done any research from the opening of bow season (mid Sept) up to the beginning of Oct.?

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@RJ-qq8kb I haven’t no

[@paulcherry366]

I hunt southern St. Louis County and I’ve seen pretty similar. Peak breeding seems to be November 12-16. I focus on the really thick stuff at this time. In my experience big bucks will push hot does into these areas. Like you, I try to get back in as deep as possible. Appreciate the time and effort you put into graphing the data - not to mention all the hours you spent hanging cameras and collecting the data.

[@campbenny]

I would say this is pretty spot on for Michigan. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

[@thomasdoheny8096]

Thank you for the information we can never stop learning and all of your hard work over the years and keeping track of it benefits all of us serious hunters. Thank you.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@thomasdoheny8096 you bet!

[@kellymiller3136]

October 31 is the best day of the year based on my 40 years of public land hunting in northern Minnesota. Between 10 am and 2 pm.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@kellymiller3136 I’ve gotten an amazing amount of really mature bucks on their feet in daylight on October 31st. Middle of the day. High noon. Thanks for sharing

[@justtl5885]

Jxn Co Michigan here,45 yr chasing and killing bucks. IMO, you are 100% correct.

[@ernestluedke3927]

Bill Winke has talked about that he sees a spike in buck activity in mid-Oct and he says that he thinks it is because there are a few does that come into estrus a month early. That makes perfect sense to be because this peak is almost exactly 28 days before the primary peak.

[@wolvesnight]

I like the 7th. to the 11th... of November, last year was spot on amazing...

[@spudman17]

The only 4 days i get to hunt this year are those exact dates

[@wolvesnight]

@spudman17 good luck...bsafe...!

[@TheBladeSled]

Nice video. My experience matches yours. In Missouri Nov 1-12 is rut seeking and then chasing. Nov 14 is peak conception day and cruising reduces. About Nov 23-27 is a great time too. I don’t have an Oct 15 bump.

[@thomasbrown7619]

Its always nice too get the heads up on the rut we all love the rut

[@chadbinette3201]

Science in deer hunting and deer in general has come along way. I forget which channel it was but a study was done that showed a doe.will come into estrus the same time every year within 7 days to the date. Also through game camera pics and videos on our property in Maine I've seen fawns born in late May all the way till early August and those early born fawns some nights come into their first estrus in January of that same year, so a 6-7 month old fawn coming into estrus . Seems rough to be going through their first winter and some might be pregnant. I've also seen the mature buck chasing a doe in January. Game cameras have really been a game changer for hunting in general, I have some I haven't moved in 5 years just change the batteries when needed .

[@masonoertli4099]

Great info! I look forward to the daylight movement chart every year with updated trail cam photos! Dates are spot on and data proves it for the Midwest.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@masonoertli4099 hey thanks for the note I appreciate it. Good luck this fall!

[@joelaubrey1818]

Super interesting man. I'm seeing very similar data - I don't have as many years under my belt (about 5), but over in the Adirondacks and VT, me and my circle of buddies have about 70 cams running. I'd say peak daylight is just a couple days later - 15 & 16, and remaining very high till about the 22nd. Also, Thanksgiving week is usually when I get the MEGA bucks daylighting. If someone is hunting a rut funnel in the ADK's, the best days to sit dark to dark are the 15-22nd.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@joelaubrey1818 I love it good work!

[@jasonmiller9403]

Can’t beat the big woods of the ADK’s!

[@briangregory6692]

Good information, looking back most of my bucks first week of November or last 4 days of November. Good luck this year.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@briangregory6692 interesting- good info and good luck this season!

[@ephlax18]

Great video. I have been tracking this info as well myself but not for nearly as many years!

[@Tom-fu4cv]

I can tell you without a doubt that the early "chasing" in October is real. With 20 years of trail cams October 25th seems to be the day it all pops off with a vengeance in northern MN and northern WI! Thank you for sharing your data with us.

[@ryancarlson5438]

Really great info! I wonder if compiling weather data would show any patterns; wind speed, temperature, and precipitation are interesting to me. Thanks for putting these together!

[@DavidGonzalez-ek3zh]

Awesome study. Very helpful! Ohio bow hunter here! Good luck!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

Glad you liked it good luck to you too!

[@stefanosoderi4152]

Great video!! I started really getting better sightings as soon as I put together how tight the actual estrus portion of the rut plays out yr after yr ! In the northeast peak breeding is 11/10 - 11/15 I have trail cams of fresh fawns first week in June every yr !

[@dougroberts3643]

This video has 54k views, but he only has 6.8k subscribers. C'mon, people, hit that sub button. This guy puts out some good content

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@dougroberts3643 hey I appreciate the support! Thanks and good luck this fall

[@johndmitri3029]

Last few days of October to the first few days of November is my usual rut-cation. All day sits near bedding on a known trail, pinch point or funnel

[@craiglacount89]

This will be year 50 for me in the deer hunting woods. I’m very old school and do not have cameras out nor have I ever. That being said I have for the last 35 years kept a journal of my hunts. I just pulled it out and looked through it and without question my very best day of large mature buck sightings on stand is Nov. 13th. with Nov. 9th being a distant second. The other thing that stands out is that over 75% of the time I’ve had these encounters between 10:00 and 3:00, with 11:30 to 12:30 being the overall highest. The data comes from big hardwood forest in southern MN and the big woods of northern MN. It’s surprising how similar the dates are in the two different areas. Although this contrast your data slightly it’s still very close, thanks for sharing.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@craiglacount89 this is great data- thank you for sharing it!

[@craiglakatos3742]

I remember watching this last year and sincerely appreciate the info. I’m in Northern WI which is roughly on the same latitude as central MN so you might be a little further north of where I hunt.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@craiglakatos3742 you bet- good luck this fall!

[@adammucha3917]

Excellent video, great info. Tigerton wi, info is pretty much spot on for this area

[@KGPNBK]

I agree with your info 100%. I've been doing this for 30 years on small parcels in farm country. One thing I would like to add is I truly believe you only have a 1 or 2 day opportunity to get a chance at the biggest buck in your area. If we only new that day ahead of time things would be much simpler. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@northernforestwhitetail]

No kidding - good luck!

[@Julie-u6r]

I also compiled a graph using Wisconsin only yearly pope and young entries and it looks almost identical mine peaks on the 1st of November? great job! Thank you!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@Julie-u6r hey thanks and good work!

[@BubbaBubs1]

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@BubbaBubs1 you bet

[@miketandeski4959]

My Most success on Mature bucks throughout the years has been the week of Thanksgiving. There out looking again after getting some. Set up on trails downwind of doe bedding areas. They will be out looking and scent checking theses areas at any time of the day. Good info thanks for posting and good luck to you this year.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@miketandeski4959 thanks- good luck this season!

[@deanmccabe8783]

Nov 7-8th have been good to us here in Townsend Wis! Thanks for all your effort, now I’m retired I like the following week also for cruisers?

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@deanmccabe8783 my dad says he “recommends retirement for everyone” ha. Good for you on earning your retirement. Good luck over there in Wisconsin this fall!

[@kfusmc]

Great information. Can't beat the first week of November!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@kfusmc for sure- good luck this fall!

[@randomman4938]

10/21 I got a mature buck chasing a doe on trail camera. Which is the first we've seen this year. Though I have seen chasing by mature buck as early as 10/8 in previous years (I was able to harvest him that day when the doe trotted by at 5 yards while I was in a ground blind). my land is NW Wisconsin.

[@rickwells1131]

I shot a nice 8 point last year on November 12th. In Michigan. This was the first time I saw this Buck last year.

[@_eimine_]

SUPER interesting! How do you determine the "peak conception date" is in a specific area?

[@northernforestwhitetail]

I’ve just searched for research projects online

[@jeffpepin5930]

Great piece here. You always have great content!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

Hey thanks I appreciate it!

[@dfstikbow7014]

Very cool video! Lot of info to analyze there. Do you think maybe the blips in activity could be a simple reaction to increased human activity in the woods? Mid October is when a lot of bowhunters get more serious about being in the woods and the November blip looks close to rifle season? Just a thought. Again, great work, really enjoy your vids!!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@dfstikbow7014 thanks! I think you bring up good points. But I’m still leaning towards those blips having something to do with the smaller percentage of does that come into estrus one cycle before and one cycle after the main rut bell curve. I’m not positive on it but that’s where my mind leads me anyways. Thanks for the note and good luck this season I hope you shoot a big one!

[@mattlennon4315]

Very interesting data. Thank you for all the time and effort.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

You bet glad you liked it

[@joelaubrey1818]

Also, I've seen the two little "blips" you mention. My Theory is that around the 17th-21st of October, big mature bucks check on their doe groups about 28 days before they cycle. Then, in the blip late November, the Giants are the ones most motivated to be the "clean-up-crew" for later cycling doe's. Maybe Higher Testosterone levels than sub-dominant bucks. Bigger bodies also enable them to keep burning reserves longer and going further and harder.

[@Camera1931-p5v]

That is a monster on the start of this video! Nice!

[@mfair1166]

Thanks for the research. Very helpful.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@mfair1166 you bet- good luck this fall

[@johnkeck6113]

I have really enjoyed your channel and look forward to all your new content, thank you! I hunt north central Pennsylvania in November ( bow season ) and have definitely seen the drop off mid Nov. Have you had much success using a grunt call in the low density areas up north? I feel like I depend on on it. Thanks again and have a good,safe season!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@johnkeck6113 hey thanks for the note- I use a grunt tube here and there usually when I see a deer first. But one of the old timers in our camp swears by them. He says he has grunted in several of the bucks he has shot. Good luck this season!

[@matthewwichtner2935]

Good stuff Matthew! Thanks my friend😊

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@matthewwichtner2935 you bet!

[@derekschenk4296]

Awesome video! Keep up the great work!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@derekschenk4296 thanks I appreciate the note- will do!

[@AS1990MN]

I got a question for you about your dates and Minnesota. How do the gun pressure effect the hunting? I know MN seems to place there gun season right at peak right time periods for the most part. Does this affect the way you hunt them during these times? Thanks

[@northernforestwhitetail]

Yeah our gun season lands right at the park like you say.. definitely disrupts things. Gotta try to get away from the pressure. Plus a lot more mature bucks get killed as a result each year

[@AS1990MN]

@ appreciate the response thanks!

[@sullivanhuntingproperties4122]

Just a thought to explain the lack of photos of bucks on Nov 11-13 could be the bucks are locked down with the does and not traveling much. Love your videos focused on the north country, it’s totally a different game !!

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@sullivanhuntingproperties4122 yes you are exactly right on the bucks being “locked down”. I should have added that- thanks for the clarification

[@grosmince]

Global warming? Here in Quebec I note that colder weather seems to coincide with high buck activity and it happens later than usual those last years. Mid November has seen more territorial activity than female chase, in my opinion. This year I will try to hunt the second half of November, hoping for cold and some snow.

[@jasonmeyer4587]

Good info! May be applicable to me as it sounds like I aint too far from you. It always seemed to me during the full moon time in October, there was more nocturnal activity.

[@darinjarvis580]

Retired last april mo bowhunter 1st 2nd week november primetime anyway you sliceit quit hunting october rarely seen mature bucks cruisers start cruising halloween weekend big buck sightings and kills increased immensely 45 yrs experience talking here

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@darinjarvis580 excellent- great advice thanks for sharing. Good luck this fall

[@ChrisWilliams-nu1sf]

Great video and information. Any plans to crunch the numbers to see if you can correlate peak times of the day for movement?

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@ChrisWilliams-nu1sf hey thanks for the note- that topic of peak “times” is my next video! Stay tuned for next weekend 👍

[@patschuette8045]

Great video! Have you ever went on weather underground historical data and checked wind direction to each camera pic to see how the buck is using the wind in each pic? I think that would be a vital pc to the puzzel! Thanks

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@patschuette8045 I have thought about that and I even did some research on it. Honestly I saw buck movement (and traveling in directions) that wasn’t always traveling into the wind. And it was difficult to determine what direction the buck was always traveling as a whole. I think that’s an important piece too but with my efforts I wasn’t able to determine a specific pattern with bucks and how they travel into the wind (or lack thwreof).

[@brianmad19]

Tuesday. The big bucks love Tuesday

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@brianmad19 bingo

[@Tryingyourbestatwhateveryoudo]

Hate to be a bubble buster but whenever the rut started last year or 5 years ago it will happen the same time of the year every year and if you want to kill a giant buck you better be in the tree all day every chance you get from November 1 to November 20th to around 25th. The October thing you're talking about is cold fronts coming through and that just gets bucks on their feet

[@randomman4938]

If I had limited hunt time, I alway focused on the weekend closest to 11/9; as our records for our land show multiple bow bucks harvest on that day over the last 50 years.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@randomman4938 I love it good work

[@TheGuyFromWI]

This is spot on. I too see my oldest age class bucks in that second late November bump. I am usually burnt out by then, but last year I shot my PB in that window. Video on my channel.

[@fishtraphunter5607]

Great Video, thanks for this information.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@fishtraphunter5607 you bet thanks for watching. I hope you get a nice one this year

[@terrytummons8898]

What time will they be there?

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@terrytummons8898 the video I uploaded after this one answers that question- it’s on my channel

[@jackychandler8594]

I live in Iowa, but I've hunted in many Midwestern states for 30 yrs. Ur rut dates are Exactly as most of those states. 1st 10 days of Nov, is always the highest buck activity. I think I know why U are seeing the 2 big spikes, followed by a drastic drop in Mid October again in last days of days of Nov. Look at it closely. 15th of October is the 1st older does come in heat. It's only a tiny % of them, and activity drops fast. Same thing with late Nov.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

I think you are right

[@geraldreinhardt8415]

From Rhinelander Wi. Time frame is exactly the same here.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

Thanks for sharing- good luck this fall

[@amsbaugh8198]

Those little blips would be the pre rut and post rut/second rut

[@dbconstruction8904]

The movement in my area is about 5 days delayed from yours. Biggest buck I ever saw in daylight hit a scrape I had on my camera on October 23

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@dbconstruction8904 what part of the country?

[@dbconstruction8904]

@@northernforestwhitetail far north eastern Wisconsin, pretty similar to your area

[@franciscoparra5266]

What state is this data from?

[@northernforestwhitetail]

MN

[@Utoldempaw]

I'd say that first October blip is scrape creation.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

Could be

[@RS-ms1bz]

Interesting. Here in WV, we are ten to fourteen days later than you. And the biggest and most mature bucks I’ve seen in the daylight are always right after peak breeding, which would coincide with that small bell curve your data shows. Maybe the youngest does begin coming into estrous then, and the mature bucks know this, and let the younger bucks breed then older does? I’m not sure, that’s what I’ve found on lightly pressured land.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@RS-ms1bz I bet that has something to do with it. Good luck this season!

[@dannyjenkins6376]

I think you get a early spurt with older does coming in then a month later the ones not breed come back in

[@WesternNyBigfoot]

I'd like to link up I have some data in NY and putting the same thing together

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@WesternNyBigfoot let’s do it sometime- you guys out east hunt similar conditions as we do here

[@freetired]

That's awesome!

[@tannerlamb6501]

Shows people should be putting more effort into late October. Biggest buck of my life came on Oct26 he was dogging does like crazy (centralPA)

[@douglaforet9122]

My favourite days are nov.6,7,8.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@douglaforet9122 I love those days

[@Buckman-101]

Good info.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@Buckman-101 thanks- good luck this year!

[@daveguttormson6315]

Helpful info.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@daveguttormson6315 glad you liked it good luck this fall!

[@JordanAmon-vv1qb]

Halloween day is a chasing fest here in Virginia.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

I love Halloween day

[@bhoran1152]

👍

[@jaredschaefer-gx7hz]

My favorite KZbin channel! I hunt in Northwest Minnesota and see very similar patters with your dates. November 11th always seems like a slam dunk for me. You should also chart times of the day! That would also be very interesting.

[@northernforestwhitetail]

@@jaredschaefer-gx7hz hey thanks for the comment I appreciate it! Funny you ask- that’s actually my next video topic- should be dropping a week from today

[@dionysis84]

@@northernforestwhitetailI’d love to see the times most bucks are on their feet October-November

[@perryrusso3764]

I believe the little drop offs to those small bell curves are the red moon phase…the second red moon is quick and sweet 🎯🎯🦌

[@michaelJ415]

30 blessed seasons this year in North East Ohio, 1st week of Nov, unless Bad winds move thru area Downwind side of a possible Doe beddings areas ,to n from area, anywhere from 7:15am till say 11:15-11:30am,they are moving then Also about a week after daylight savings time ends, Best~Regards to all,