PEAK TV IS BACK...House of The Dragon 2x1 "A Son For a Son" | Reaction/Review

[@ericlayton8888]

Love how Criston only started hating Rhaenyra because she expected him to be “the queen’s concubine” and now he’s the queen’s concubine

[@Amrs95]

How the tables have turned

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Not even the Queen cause by all technicality Helaena is Queen. She's just Queen Mother or Dowager Queen as Margaery would call her lol...he's just some side hoe lol

[@lizknives]

i hate that nobody is pointing this out enough but solely criticizing alicent. like yes alicent is being a hypocrite but i still sympathize with her, not so much criston

[@brigandrus]

Bro became the thing he swore to destroy

[@ericlayton8888]

@@lizknives actually I don’t think she is a hypocrite. Alicent turned against Rhaenyra because she wasn’t doing her duty - if Rhaenyra had kids with Laenor while sleeping with Harwin I don’t think Alicent would’ve minded Since Viserys is dead and his son king, Alicent is no longer married and therefore no longer obligated to provide heirs

[@neonoires]

LOL at y'all thinking that it was Robb. That actor did a good job making people believe that he could be an ancestor to the Starks on Game of Thrones.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Oof that voice and song had me in near tears

[@kylecedrickgraciano9743]

I actually chuckled when they thought that because why would rob narrate something 100+ years before he was alive 😂

[@ihkeseteeietos5722]

That northern accent lmao

[@nyla_n123]

I just miss Robb so much

[@lka9900]

I feel like they did that on purpose 😂

[@SciFiCatGuy]

Syrax screaming when Rhaenyra found Luc's remains was not only her feeling Rhaenyra's pain but an expression of her own pain as she was mother of Luc's dragon Arrax. Two mothers mourning together.

[@julesb1970]

Thank you, I was gonna mention that as if you really don't know much about the history most would not have known the significance and just thing Syrax is just feeling Ryneras pain.

[@Polo-wk7zl]

There’s literally nothing to indicate that.

[@SciFiCatGuy]

@@Polo-wk7zl do you KNOW how to Google? 🤣

[@SciFiCatGuy]

@@Polo-wk7zl literally all you had to do is Google, "Is syrax mother to arryx" and you'd see what a tree stump you look like making that comment.

[@Polo-wk7zl]

@@SciFiCatGuy Yes. There is nothing to indicate that, in anything in this franchise. Have you read the books? Because if you have, you’d know there’s nothing in Fire & Blood to suggest that, nor in the mainline series, nor the Dunk and Egg books. There’s been nothing said by Ryan Condol or George R.R. Martin to suggest that either. It’s literally just a rumor that people parrot because it sounds good.

[@slayerr3086]

Blood and Cheese was way more brutal in the books. When the assassins get to Helaena’s chambers they tie her and Alicent up. They ask Helaena to pick which of her sons they kill - the 6 year old Jaehaerys or 3 year old Maelor. When she refuses to pick they threathen her with r*apong her 6 year old daughter so she picks Maelor, hoping he’d be too young to understand what is happening. Blood then Whisperer into Maelor’s ear “You hear that boy? Your mama wants you dead” and strikes off the head of Jaehaerys instead.

[@voluntarism335]

wow that's truly f***** up, george rr martin does truly like making disciple scenes in his books doesn't he?

[@timdella92]

That was supposed to be written later by maester who was a Green loyalist. He was trying to paint the Blacks as violent as can be

[@Fenix-lr6ez]

@@voluntarism335 it's not the brutality of the scene, it's the choice for a mother between two of his sons. That's what Martin is. He won't write about brutality for brutality's sake, he writes it to explore characters. Helaena in this case

[@garethlawton5278]

@@Fenix-lr6ez That's exactly it. The horror of the scene was the forced choice and it being meaningless as they chose the other.

[@melancoolique]

I'm team Black and I hate them so much for softening it!

[@spacepotato5524]

The way ya'll were so silent while they were about to kill the boy. And your shock was palpable. Great reaction as always, Gek Boys.

[@havok6280]

Go Team Black aka Team Baby Killers!

[@RoxanaGp]

that shit was traumatizing😭😭

[@ffion4278]

@@havok6280 love that for them

[@Tooba-K123]

​@@RoxanaGp the fact that they didn't even show the real horror of how this event ended in books😂 shit was 10 times more horrifying and traumatic.

[@heddadybvadskog-nebb5603]

Apparently when Sean Bean was cast they asked him to do a more Southern English accent (more normal for international viewers) and he was like No. So all the other actors whose characters are from the North had to mimic his more Northern accent. It's crazy how his refusal to do a different accent set the standard so high that from the first line of this season I went "oh we're in the North I hear the accent" Also makes perfect sense as to why it sounds like Robb hahaha

[@AL-fl4jk]

The northern accent is a pretty big plot points at certain points in the books so I’m glad they kept the realism

[@lartisteautravail]

You mean “He was like, ‘Noh.’”

[@jcompton8507]

@@AL-fl4jk Ned, Jon, and Robb do not have "northern" accents in the books. They have the accents of lords. Jon and Sam stand out at the Nights Watch for not having "common" accents.

[@MoJones9919]

@@jcompton8507they sound like Lords but they have accents. I’m sure the Dornish commoners have different dialect than highborn.

[@jcompton8507]

@@MoJones9919 Possibly... But in the books, it seems like most of the lords and ladies have what the books call a "highborn" accent. Jon and Sam and Maester Aemon and Jeor Mormon and Cat and Cersei and Sansa, etc., all speak very formally. George doesn't write anything into their dialogue that indicates an accent, like he does with various working class or "commoner's" speech. (e.g. Davos and Gendry) Lords and Ladies through the entire Seven Kingdoms are all educated by Maesters and Septons/Septas. I imagine that most Lords and Ladies throughout Westeros - even Dorne - have similar accents (= stuffy formal / "lordly" accents) because all of their education originates from the same place (Oldtown).

[@macylea13]

8 and 10 is 18, the twins were 18 when they were sworn in as kings guards.

[@cannonandrus5554]

That makes way more sense

[@ryanasencio8299]

​@@cannonandrus5554I'd like to imagine a literal 8 year old bodying fully grown men though

[@AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA69]

@@cannonandrus5554that’s how the refer to age in Westeros, if you were 38 you would say your age is 8 and 30 Idk but that’s just how they speak

[@zakoneee_]

Yea this is confuse me, they are twins but how they have different ages? 😅

[@f5673-t1h]

@@zakoneee_ I thought one joined at 8 and another at 10. But thinking about it, 8 years old is not suitable for a KING'S GUARD.

[@stephanielomeli6950]

I love how when blood and cheese asked “what do we do if we can’t find him?” (Aemond) daemon looks at them and smirks so I’m thinking he gave the ok lol

[@jamien368]

He obviously DID

[@stephanielomeli6950]

@@jamien368 yes I agree and I love that

[@jamien368]

@@stephanielomeli6950 i love that the show didn't whitewash him, i hated daemon in the book when he done that

[@Stxrria]

@@jamien368True but they still left it ambiguous

[@daquaviousbingleton9763]

@@Stxrriait’s not ambiguous it’s pretty obvious

[@ChaosLierLen]

Regarding Arryk and Erryk, "eight and ten" is how they say eighteen. Which is still impressive.

[@havok6280]

Jamie was only about a year younger and he was the youngest ever Kingsguard.

[@AdityaSingh-fy5vv]

@@havok6280 2 years younger* ser barristan and jamie both were knighted and made kingsguard at 16.

[@DanielleVlog365]

When they talk, it is so confusing because they use twin speak, lol. If any other character had said it, I would have understood this. And their same names? I can't man 😂

[@ane9911]

Jaime never praised Ser Criston. His icon was Sir Arthur Dayne. He lived during the Roberts Rebellion time

[@laterrydorsey303]

I always thought this was the source of his hostility towards Ned. I don't think he bought Ned killing Dayne 1v1

[@jcompton8507]

@@laterrydorsey303 Well, that and Ned judging him for killing the Mad King. Seriously, Ned, is there no "honor" in killing the king to save tens of thousands?

[@bernardp.1299]

Forreal

[@ducksauce9187]

and they also think Jaime killed Rhaegar like what?

[@rodriguezjavier6726]

@@laterrydorsey303 na, Jaime hated Ned because he saw him as a king slayer, Ned killed Arthur after the sack of Kingslanding

[@yussefabubakarpaglas5538]

Helaena is a dreamer. But no one knows. No one understands. Viserys wanted to be a dreamer. If he would have just paid attention to his kids, he would know. Helaena is misunderstood. And did not deserve any of it.

[@jcompton8507]

It's a lot like Maester Aemon and King Aegon "Egg" V's older brother who drank himself to death trying to block out the visions.

[@Adamantium93]

​@@jcompton8507Yeah, Targaryen dreamers are like a conga line of tragedy. All of them destroyed by their visions. There's a theory that Egg had them too and that's what led to his downfall, and that The Mad King's obsession with fire was caused by visions as well.

[@reinsaxony4623]

"The Hightowers are gone in Game of Thrones." Meanwhile Queen Margaery Tyrell, daughter of a Hightower:

[@liliaramirez9323]

But not from Alicents line, probably from ottos brothers line

[@reinsaxony4623]

@@liliaramirez9323 And? This is beyond the point. Point was that they thought Hightowers were extinct which was in their view a hint of what happened in the Dance. Besides Alicent was just the daughter of a second son to begin with.

[@lkrnpk]

it wasn't mentioned in GoT though, same as Tyrells are not featured in HOTD (cause they said they will stay out of it), because in both cases they do exist but are not that important to the plot

[@samuelmathu3327]

Just wanted to point out, Arrax (Lucerys’ dragon) is also son of Syrax (Rhaenyra’s dragon)… so both mothers are mourning in this scene at 9:30 😭😭😭😭

[@anmoldwivedi5403]

Ohh that's so sad 😭

[@SciFiCatGuy]

A couple of clarifications: Tywin wasn't descendant of Tyland Lannister, he was descendant of Tyland's twin brother, Jason Lannister, Lord of Casterly Rock., and the guy who tried to move on Rhaenyra at the hunt last season. When Arryk says they were sworn at 8 and 10, he means 18 years old. They are twins. They wouldn't be different ages.

[@arianaquinones5359]

Daemon ordered “a son for a son” so when they asked what to do if they couldn’t find Aemond it’s pretty clear that he said to simply kill a prince and the only princes present at this point are Aemond and the child

[@jcompton8507]

I'm not so sure. In the books, Alicent has 3 sons: Aegon, Aemond, and Daeron. The little kids may not have been on Daemon's mind at all.

[@hp5732]

Daeron was in Old Town - don’t cap to stan Daemon

[@jcompton8507]

@@hp5732 Daemon is terrible. Hate him in the show and the books. I forgot Daeron was in Oldtown at this point. Haven't read F&B since it came out.

[@iamai_iggs]

cheese was folding HARD, like his hands were shaking when he held the knife to helaena. he didn't want to find aemond, found the kids instead, saw his out and took it. technically he can just tell daemon that they didn't find aemond and technically, killing jaehaerys still counts as "a son for a son"

[@Tooba-K123]

That's exactly what I think. Cheese wanted a easy way out. Aemond is the owner of Vhagar and a great swordsman. Taking him on would be a suicide mission so Cheese went for Jahaerys instead.

[@jean05jean]

Just fold in the cheese 😊😅

[@Cinnabon.]

The end gutted me because imo Helaena is one of the most innocent people involved in the war, including her children. She was in such shock too 😭 I’m not ready for the rest of the season

[@LS13.]

She’s basically the only one innocent

[@Cinnabon.]

@@LS13.Well there was Luke but as for team green then yes, she definitely is the only innocent one there

[@LS13.]

@@Cinnabon. clearly I’m talking now, with everyone alive lol… it’s an overall statement

[@Cinnabon.]

@@LS13. I understood what you were getting at. I was just mentioning others in case anyone else who read the comment was wondering..

[@Jenndookie]

​@@Cinnabon. Lol. Luke is innocent?Wtf bro. He cutted Aemond eye. BTW

[@punkkcosmo8814]

Daemon was responsible for Jahaerys's death. He said son for a son and then the thugs asked what if they cant find aemond and it cut off implying daemon told them to kill the boy as plan b

[@zach424]

Crazy how fast you got this up. Props to you guys

[@jurb417]

17:55 those are common dogs used for ratting. they chase and kill rats after the rat has been pushed out of its hiding spot

[@vetabeta9890]

in the books it was even worse, as she had three kids, and they made her pick between jahaerys or her youngest son, she chose the youngest as he wouldn’t understand what was going on but they killed the oldest anyway.

[@balerion77]

Yeah. But it's highly debatable that it's as brutal , because I learnt it was written by a Maester who was A Greens supporter.

[@aldogonzalez7039]

"Aegon the Magnanimous" LOL i was dying

[@chumanimtwebana6321]

The Velaryons and Hightowers aren't gone in GOT. They just aren't part of the main story

[@linalongshore6440]

the velaryons are gone. there aren’t no full hightowers, only the tyrell’s are half

[@Koko-gp6vn]

​@@linalongshore6440the velaryons aren't gone I'm pretty sure they were sided with stanis

[@ShaerynNaggaryan]

​@@linalongshore6440 Velaryon is still there, they support Stanis. One of the Velaryon bastards even reminded Cersei of Rhaegar.

[@mizzy5193]

@@linalongshore6440Where are you getting this information? And what do you mean by “full”? To be a full blooded family member would mean your family practices incest like the Targaryens, Jorah Mormont himself was married to a hightower

[@jada9401]

@@linalongshore6440they are not gone lol

[@SpitFir3Tornado]

Need to know that yall know Jaime did not kill Rhaegar. Jaime killed the mad king Aerys. Robert Baratheon killed Rhaegar (the heir) in battle before that. Could have just misspoke but this is like pretty important info to their characters.

[@ccispahan7514]

Also, Jaime never spoke highly of Criston Cole in GoT. Never ever. His role model is Barristan Selmy. And he also idolizes Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, who was part of Aerys II Targaryen’s Kingsguard. Arthur knighted Jaime. He was Rhaegar’s closest friend and reputed to be the deadliest Kingsguard of Aerys’ 7. He is referenced several times in GoT. He died during Robert’s rebellion.

[@CinemaGek]

Ya lol said the wrong name in that moment but yes we are aware don’t worry

[@Deking24]

@@ccispahan7514exactly in fact Jaime said that Criston Cole was the worst kings guard they ever was . A huge embarrassment to the kings guard is what he said .

[@Smoug]

@@Deking24 where did this happen?

[@ccispahan7514]

@@Smoug Just checked that - Book Jaime mentions Cole to Loras Tyrell (in AFFC). Book Loras has joined the Kingsguard (which does not happen in the show). They are looking at the White Book, which compiles the bios of all the Kingsguard’s Commanders. Loras says that the heroes are always remembered, to which Jaime answers ‘The best and the worst. And a few who were a bit of both. Like [Criston Cole]’ (…). They called him Kingmaker’. I’d say it is a disguised warning to Tyrell, who also tried to make a king (Renly) and is probably hoping to become Commander after Jaime. @Deking24 got a bit carried away 😅

[@NoaDavi]

idk what's left me more traumatized, Blood and Cheese in the book (way more graphic and brutal but at least they did a quick clean cut) or the show (the effing sound effects of the slow cutting) 😭😫

[@Ionic_edge]

Yeeesss the sound of them decapitating the baby gave me goosebumps

[@Tooba-K123]

I still find the book version more traumatizing especially with Helaena's screams and Maelor's traumatizing face.

[@DanielleVlog365]

I like both. I wish the show had depicted 3 kids and gone with the original threats. But just for gruesome watching, the sound effects with no visuals was a fantastic choice. Really makes you grit your teeth when you realize

[@akaHilton]

“A son for a son” they switched up the blood and cheese scene a little bit but I loved how it came out. Luke’s funeral had me sobbing!

[@fabiolaliano8620]

Jae was clearly the plan b in case they didn’t find aemond

[@lartisteautravail]

Halaena making me realize how pacing differs between GoT and HotD. Her prophecies tend to come true within the episode they’re first expressed. In GoT that stuff would happen three seasons later.

[@havok6280]

I hate that the show made it ambiguous. Team Black like to give Daemon the benefit of the doubt.

[@sizznishi3197]

​@@havok6280 lol, didn't they give Aemond the benefit of the doubt too. Let's wait for episode 2 to know how team black will react to the death🤷🏾

[@havok6280]

​@@sizznishi3197not the same. Aemond was reckless. What Daemon did was premeditated. The difference between man slaughter and murder.

[@JoshuaJohnson7334g]

one of the guys said Daemon said a son for a son so he meant doesnt matter which

[@Moompl]

In the books Blood&Cheese is much different. First off, Aemond is never mentioned to be the target, and Rhaenyra is not the one to incite the mission. Daemon sends Rhaenyra a letter from Harrenhal (in the books he is already there) that says- “An eye for an eye, a son for a son. Lucerys shall be avenged”. B&C sneak into the Tower of the Hand, which is not guarded as heavily as Maegor’s Holdfast, where Aemond was, and they head for Alicent’s chambers, who is getting ready for bed (Criston and her are not a thing in the book). Helaena and her three children (Jaehaerys, Jaehaera, and Maelor, who was not present in the show version) visit Alicent’s chambers each night before bed, and were just about to visit. When they get there, they find Alicent tied to the bed and her bedmaid strangled. Blood bars the door and Cheese takes Maelor and tells Helaena to choose which son of hers will die. Helaena pleads that they kill her instead but they refuse, siting- “An eye for an eye, a son for a son. A wife is not a son.” Cheese tells her that if she does not choose then Blood will grape her daughter and they will kill everyone in the room. Eventually, Helaena chooses Maelor, her younger son. Maybe it was because she thought he would be too young to understand , or perhaps it was because the elder boy, Jaehaerys, was Aegon’s first born and heir. Cheese holds Maelor up and whispers to him- “You hear that, little one, your momma wants you dead”. In one clean motion, Blood strikes of the older boys-Jaehaerys’s-head, and the two take off with it. When the guards finally burst through the door, they find Helaena grasping her son’s headless body to her, mad with grief. So yeah, Blood&Cheese is much more tame in the show.

[@sxzz3480]

aemond not being the target in the books didnt make sense cause he was the one who killed luke? the just wanted the phrase "a son for a son" to be shown in the books to add the extra drama, in the show obivously it happens too but as a plan B if aemond is not to be found, so ye it makes sense why aemond was primary target and not aegons son, and him having 1 son is a good change cause now he wont have an heir

[@Moompl]

@@sxzz3480 I agree it’s weird that Aemond wasn’t the main target, but I re-read the passage just make sure I didn’t forget anything and while it is correct that a specific target is never mentioned, it is speculated on, but it is Aegon who they suspected to be the potential target. Aemond’s name is not mentioned anywhere in any of the passages leading up to or about the event. I have a theory that Daemon had already planned this, even before Luke, to goad Aegon into a direct attack on Dragonstone, which would be a poor decision in Aegon’s part. The text even mentions that Aegon, in his rage, was very tempted to go and attack DS.

[@sxzz3480]

@@Moompl ye and now tht he only had 1 son unlike the books, it makes him more blood thirsty and hungry for revenge

[@joshhutton9534]

It’s because they really want to make the Blacks seem better than the Greens to the audience. Hence making Alicent look like a hypocrite with Cole which wasn’t in the books and also being able to blame the B&C on rogue agents instead of direct orders from the Blacks.

[@rai2423]

@@sxzz3480Aemond is not the target because it’s pretty hard to get close to him. Also in the books Daemon wanted Aemond for himself. The book version makes more sense. The show made it tame but also emotionally bleak. Helena’s reaction almost made the scene pointless. She should’ve had a more emotional reaction to drive the point home.

[@cannonandrus5554]

Let’s GOOOOO. THAT ENDING WAS INSANE

[@lartisteautravail]

“Ser Criston, would you like to tell us where the kingsguard was when this was transpiring?”

[@Hidakaku56]

@@lartisteautravail 'Hey, Cole where the fuck were you???' Bro had the night watch the night that Aemond got his eye slit and the night watch on this night and failed miserably both nights

[@DanielleVlog365]

​@@lartisteautravailGod, literally. And alicent has to live knowing GRANDMA was doing all that while her grandson was getting decapitated in the room over. Good job, to both of you.

[@lartisteautravail]

@@DanielleVlog365 I swear I saw a look on Helaena’s face when she walked in on them like, “Oh god, not this. Not this as well!”

[@DanielleVlog365]

@@lartisteautravail She's probably so sick of it tbh 🤣 I noticed Aemond's analytic expression when Crispy was ranting about Rhaenyra AGAIN as well

[@amnasiddique6886]

In the books, Aegon is actually celebrating Aemond killing Lucerys. He's having a whole mini party with his men

[@pepela003]

Daemon did give the order to kill the boy. Blood says to cheese that Daemon said to them "a son for a son". So he propably said that even if you cant find Aemond..i want a son for a son.

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

I was watching a stream about this episode and they were book readers and they said that in the book, the way it end there was much more harsher than what we saw. Daemon basically said to the two guys "a son for a son. kill one, let everybody else alive". So there was two sons(intead of a boy and a girl) and he asked the mom "who do you want killed?" she pick one and then the killer said "you see your mother hates you!" and then killed the other! (basically cut his head clean off)pretty insane

[@sug4rbabevs_]

Yeah! in the books Aegon and Helaena had three children, the twins Jaehaerys and Jaehaera, and a younger son Maelor. In fact, Alicent was also present, after taking up residence in the Tower of The Hand. Once inside, Blood and Cheese bound and gagged the Dowager Queen, and blood strangled her bedmaid. Helaena brought her children to their grandmother every night before bed. Jaehaerys and Jaehaera were six, and Maelor was 2. When Helaena arrived, Blood barred the door and killed the guard. When Helaena demanded who the men were, they responded, “Debt collectors. An eye for an eye, a son for a son. We only want the one”. Helaena pleaded with the men to kill her instead, but they said a wife was not a son. Cheese warned her to make a choice before blood would grow bored and gr@pe Jaehaera. Helaena chose Maelor, thinking maybe he was too young at 2 to truly understand, or because Jaehaerys was Aegon’s heir. Cheese taunted Maelor, “You hear that? your mother wants you dead.” Then blood slew Jaehaerys, taking his head off with a single blow. And both disappeared. When the guards bursted into the room, they found Helaena still screaming and holding the body of her dead son. Safe to say, the book version was far more traumatic and shocking then the show. Although im just happy that we got anything at all.

[@havok6280]

They also threatened to grape Jahaera if Helaena didn't cooperate.

[@ivane1117]

​@@sug4rbabevs_im a book reader too but if i could ask you, which one you believe, the book or the show? cuz in the books its from 3 point of view (which is 2/3 pro team green) so the could "make" the story worse than actual event. Im still confused too, in the books im a pro team green

[@vayne-he9yi]

@@ivane1117 The show is an entirely separate canon to the books according to GRRM. So the show doesn't necessarily confirm anything from the books.

[@sug4rbabevs_]

@@ivane1117 I would have to say I definitely believe the book more. The show, i feel, is its own little canon universe which takes inspiration, if you will, from the books. Even so, the books were written by maesters, holding preference for the greens, and there may have been events, or details, or something of other information that was not put in, either from maybe the greens or the blacks. And some events that may have been exaggerated or downplayed? I dont think we’ll ever know. So its hard to say the books are anything of a confirmation or truth. But I overall prefer the books to the show.

[@brigandrus]

PEAK IS BACK

[@ariellockett1856]

brig looks like aegon with a haircut (not complaining)

[@julietmocke1]

Me and brig 🤝 blonde balayage

[@umamahesh0308]

Yes and he looks really good

[@KRISIMOS]

👍

[@brigandrus]

Thanks guys ☺️

[@markquinlin5678]

House Clegane wouldn’t be a house for another ~120 or so years, under Tywin’s father’s rule in the Westerlands.

[@havok6280]

The Velaryons and the Hightowers still exist in GoT. The Hightowers run the Citadel.

[@ShaerynNaggaryan]

Hightower was still around during the GoT era, just not from the Otto or Alicent line, their line is completely extinct.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@ShaerynNaggaryan Otto wasn't the first son anyways. The main bloodline was practically untouched by this war. Its the Targs themselves that suffered the worse.

[@ShaerynNaggaryan]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 I'm not saying that otto was the first child, i'm just saying that alicent and otto's line went extinct, not the other hightowers.

[@spookyspooks33]

no one is talking about how soon yall filmed & uploaded this. i love to see it🥹

[@spacejamjam]

Syrax is believed to be the mother of Arrax. So that’s Rhaenyra and Syrax losing both their children. 😢

[@DanielleVlog365]

The way she grieved with Rhaenyra had me in the chest.

[@Sigma4k_]

Well Cheese is the rat keeper, so him being there at night, with his dog, it makes sense. It’s not like he isn’t supposed to be there

[@klarakudelova3069]

Someone was debating that now that Healena is queen, it makes sence that Criston was her guird, because now shes more important then Alicent and he wasnt on guird because was busy f*cking insted of protecting.

[@Vendrix86]

just fyi martin has said it would take 4 seasons to tell the full story of the dance of the dragons so the season 3 renewal announcement isn't that surprising, was just a matter of when.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

isnt this a mini spoiler? this will change the way they theorize about stuff. And I don't think they asked for this information.

[@Vendrix86]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 jesus are you kidding me? you have a really low bar for what is considered a spoiler. Just move along please, thanks.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@Vendrix86 some people just like a blind reaction

[@Vendrix86]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 I have never heard of someone crying about "spoiler" based on number of seasons - esp when it's not confirmed how many there are. What is wrong with you? Just move along, second time I'm asking you.

[@ruben.b5379]

Literaly I watched the episode 5 minutes ago, the Emma darcy acting is really good

[@palkys.]

The young actress' smugness almost put me off. The cringe looks to the camera of the older actress was what killed the show for me. Saying she's good is taking a fat dump on pretty much every other actor in existence, tbqh.

[@Cool_beansmh]

@@palkys.i feel you, thats how i feel about Aemonds face. He tries to look hard and it just comes off as weak and insecure imo. He doesnt live up to the hype of the character.

[@mckaycarter2749]

Leave the dog alone!

[@chrisKarasi]

In the book there's two boys and they make Helaena pick one and they whisper in his ear "You hear that, boy? Your mama wants you dead," and kill the other one.

[@zeroknight4517]

"I think the heads are gonna roll"... Writers: say no more.

[@hazeldladla5951]

The thing is, the greens should have expected this, the children should have been kept under lock down, they should have expected the blacks to seek revenge and avenge Luke's death

[@DanielleVlog365]

If Haleana ever told me ANYTHING, I'd be on lock down. She has been right enough in the past.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@DanielleVlog365 well if she learnt how to communicate what she knows

[@DanielleVlog365]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 I mean she does.... in her own way 😅😂 Like if she came at me going, "The Cheez-Its are Snakes," would I have a clue what's going on? No. Would all the Cheez-Its in the house immediately get tossed? YEP 🤣 I wish Viserys had been apt enough to pay any attention to her. He might have picked up on her abilities.

[@piratesswoop725]

Seriously, and they're going to frame it like Criston was too busy boinking Alicent to guard them, but that makes zero sense to me because either Criston is guarding Alicent or he's guarding Helaena/the kids. If Criston's person to guard is Alicent, then there should have been someone else guarding the nursery!

[@aileenpi73]

You would think

[@prico3358]

"Thats not gonna be good enough for damond" what a fucking cope, these guys havent realize Damon specified it. A son for a son. The camera cut off when they asked.

[@tomodachiotaku8004]

Daemon Pontius Pilate Targaryen🤔

[@jcompton8507]

What good was it to kill one of the children? He needed them to take out a dragon rider.

[@hokagedlo6133]

Lol, daemon ordered that hit. Welcome to Hotd, this ain't Disney​@@jcompton8507

[@mynameisbrutus]

@@jcompton8507he just wanted to hurt team green. And Daemon is known for his violent nature so he wouldn’t mind B&C killing a six year old instead

[@jcompton8507]

@@mynameisbrutus I'm not saying he would have minded. I'm just questioning his judgement. There was no benefit it killing the child. They needed to take out a dragonrider.

[@f5673-t1h]

I like that Aegon is actually interested in being king and serving the people. He's not a 1-dimensional villain like Joffrey in GoT. And to be honest, all the greens are interesting.

[@havok6280]

He is also a better father to his son than Viserys was to him. He also isn't afraid to fight.

[@ameliainazawa1166]

@@havok6280To his legitimate son and heir he is. If only he acted the same with all the children he fathered from willing or unwilling women... He's so direspectful to his sister-wife too. Poor Helaena.

[@DanielleVlog365]

He was cracking me up? And I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop and have him be nice, then torture his subjects. But he's just a clown in that room, lol. I hate that they made me like him a little

[@skumar93323]

He's trying to get acceptance where he can, since he didn't get it from his parents. It's a cute scene but with it being fall and on the cusp of war, it just shows that he's not knowledgeable about basic politics of the realm.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@DanielleVlog365 i love that they made him like this. Was totally shocked when they made practically every audience member dislike him in season 1.

[@LadyMoonboy]

If you thought this end was bad, in the book it’s waaay more brutal. There, Helaena actually has 3 kids, 2 boys and 1 girl and Alicent is also present and all the kids are awake. They make Helaena choose which of the two boys to die, she chooses the younger one and then they tell him ‘Your mother hates you and wants you dead’ and then proceed to decapitate the other one in front of them. So yeah, I’m guessing HBO decided not to show a 4-year-old get decapitated in front of his mother, grandmother and siblings on live television.

[@KingEhrys98]

I'm willing to bet there were no guards in that area, especially with the Queen, because Cole wanted no witnesses to his "duties".

[@DanielleVlog365]

Rhaneyra in this episode told a whole tale while uttering only one line, and I think it is AMAZING. The actors did amazing with her and Jace's scene especially. Starting with the Stark music was a very "welcome home" moment. I loved that. I kept saying that the one thing this show was missing was the humor that characters like Tyrion and Hound brought. I did not expect Aegon to deliver, but here we are 😂 I hate that they made me like him some. I swear the dog was to still get a reaction from the book readers 😂 The guard being a Clegane ancestor is my new favorite thing. I wish Helaena was with the Blacks because her and her kids are the only ones with the Greens who did not deserve this, and they got the full brunt. Alicent and Crispy can F off on their piety high horses now. They suck.

[@ajw282]

They aren’t skipping Ser Duncan The Tall lol he’s actually getting his own it’s in production now titled “A Knight of the Sevens Kingdoms: The Hedge Knight”

[@silverapapi]

@7:05 The Queen: “I’m afraid” King: “don’t be” Queen: “Not the dragons, the rats…….” BRUH SHE REALLY IS A DREAMER, and her abilities are clearly giving her some kinda mental illness, but she can really see the future, she knew the rat catchers kill her son if only she could communicate clearly.

[@KaranRandhawa_YYC]

When Cheese asked what if they could not find Aemond? and there us a cut. Maybe Daemon told them about kids as well.

[@oliviaeades9807]

Anyone else notice the man with the dog near the beginning of the episode? He walked through the frame. Aegon saw him

[@kalamataolives]

House Velaryon and House Hightower are still around in GoT. They just aren’t the power players of that era. Margaery’s mother is a Hightower and so was Jorah’s wife

[@tanita6234]

"now its on" it was on when they took luke

[@DanielleVlog365]

I don't think it was "on" for Alicent until this moment. But yes.

[@JazzMJFAN]

Team Green! 💚💚💚 they’re so much more fun, messy and interesting

[@shioriphantomhive7290]

in the book, Daemon ordered to kill Jahearys and not Aemond. And also Raenyra never said she wanted Aemond, it was all the white worm and Daemon

[@rtrslimjim]

The hightowers are 100% not gone in game of thrones

[@jcompton8507]

They just aren't mentioned in the show despite the fact that Margaery's mother is a Hightower. And so is Jorah's ex-wife.

[@jdsthird]

The Valyrians and Hightowers are in the Game of Thrones universe bit they are not major houses and weren’t featured. They aren’t extinct by that time. There are hundreds of houses that GOT leaves out.

[@yarsaz4347]

Hightowers are still a major house they run the citadel. Not the Velaryons though.

[@LadyVenomWay]

Going back to Winterfel made me feel something so deeply. It felt like going home. It all started with house Stark. I just have so much love for them.

[@hopec7006]

Wow you guys are fast! Props to editing this that quick

[@lenom-wq2ez]

8 and 10 means 18 yall, they were both 18 years old

[@Trepanation21]

Nah, it means 810. They were old as shit when they were named the guard 👴👴

[@Adamantium93]

​@@Trepanation21They actually age backwards. So they'll keep getting younger and younger with each year.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Blood and Cheese was WAY worse in the lore than the show. "When the guards burst in, they found Helaena, still clasping her dead son's body. Screaming, mad with grief. The grief and rage of losing a child can burn down the world. Only Aegon or Rhaenyra could deliver the end. But not both." - Catelyn Stark Dance of Dragons. This was way too anticlimactic for a hostage situation. I think the stronger ending would've been if they cut to black and we hear her screaming. Kinda like how they cut to black when Viserys dies but we hear him say "My love." I love when shows do that. It's very powerful. The rest was great though.

[@kiara20238]

well this is not the book, this is the showw

[@AbyssWatch3r]

but instead we see Alicent and CC fucking 😂

[@radias2589]

​@@kiara20238 the book purist are annoying

[@titosdorito9628]

@@radias2589yep they are everywhere all over twitter. They get disappointed very easily

[@speedracerrrr]

@@radias2589y’all weren’t all up in book purist’s business when daemon was choking out rhaenyra

[@nyagerguet5601]

I had to replay that opening with the Stark theme at least twice. It got me in the feels. 😢 In fact this whole episode had me teary.

[@leslieshE]

Criston cole is supposed to protect the royal family and command his guards to their post but he's just spending the night with the queen instead. Love your videos !

[@chrisell7451]

Love how all of you 4 clearly have something for Aemond

[@NoaDavi]

3:54 y'all notice his sword? 👀

[@anmoldwivedi5403]

That was big af

[@NoaDavi]

@@anmoldwivedi5403 i meant that it’s the same sword Ned Stark had

[@anmoldwivedi5403]

@@NoaDavi ahhh i felt the same but was not sure about it.. good catch

[@Alex-bz8lj]

It’s weird Aegon and Aemond haven’t talked about their brother Daeron

[@DamnTheBeavers]

Nettles won't be in the show either, Aegon's third child doesn't exist, Jace child with the Vale girl either...they are doing a GOT season 5 and addapt what they like and that's sad

[@sxzz3480]

@@DamnTheBeavers the change of aegon just having 1 son was a good change, what are you on? now his only heir is dead and will be more thirsty for revenge hence why he engages in rooks rest, and i am pretty sure daeron is happening, from sources, they r not revealing it too much to add the extra drama ig, jace and vale girl can be forgotten no?

[@askyeyv7039]

@@DamnTheBeavers Condal apparently said Maelor isnt there YET, idk what it means and why wouldnt they include him in the first place. As for Daeron he's confirmed to be in s3 and mentioned at some point in s2

[@alexmarsh8464]

@@DamnTheBeaversdue to recent news, it seems highly likely nettles isn’t cut

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@alexmarsh8464 what recent news?

[@neeharikasingh4229]

No guys, S3 won't show any more history. This show is gonna have around 4-5 seasons which are all gonna cover the civil war of House Targaryen.

[@Glo419]

I felt so bad for you guys watching the Blood & Cheese scene. That's what they're called in the books. And it was sooooo much worse in the books. Those sound effects were insane!

[@leahkennedy905]

Apparently Cole was supposed to be guarding Helena and the kids witch makes it sadder he abandoned his post to sleep with Alicent

[@DanielleVlog365]

Like, please send that man to HR.

[@yarsaz4347]

@@DanielleVlog365 HR? He needs the Gallows ASAP

[@DanielleVlog365]

@@yarsaz4347 He needed those a long time ago imo.

[@Adamantium93]

​@@DanielleVlog365Dude is like the perfect example of "failing upwards". Keeps messing up his actual job, but because he's loyal and useful to the people in charge, he keeps getting promoted!

[@DanielleVlog365]

@@Adamantium93 Boooooy do I know some people in my life like this 😅

[@Sigma4k_]

Jamie never killed rhaegar. He killed the mad king, hence king slayer. Robert Baratheon killed rhaegar

[@f5673-t1h]

Criston is such a hypocrite. He hates Rhaenyra because she had sex with and made him break his oath, but then he goes and has more sex with Alicent.

[@breesajordan9899]

fr and so is Alicent. She hates Rhaenyra for sleeping with Cole and then goes and does the same exact thing .

[@twentytwo3052]

@@breesajordan9899 she didnt hate rhaenyra cuz she slept with cole u casual, she hated her cuz she lied on her mothers life sbout it to alicent 🤡🤡

[@stephanielomeli6950]

@@twentytwo3052ok like my personal sex life is personal lol not everyone is entitled to know your sex life lol

[@stephanielomeli6950]

And the smug way Criston makes Alicent put his white cloak on gave me the ick lol

[@twentytwo3052]

@@stephanielomeli6950 and again. she could just lie thats fine. but if she chooses to lie on her mother to alicent that does make alicent the bad person for not trusting her anymore when she isnt trustworthy 🤡🤡

[@peytonfuller879]

In the books Aegon had a grand feast in celebration for aemond killing luc. I always saw it as daemon wanting to hurt Aegon the way rhaenyra was. He made a mockery of her son’s death and praised aemond for kinslaying. I don’t think daemon ever would’ve realistically put such a difficult task as killing aemond into the hands of an idiotic brute and a rat catcher.

[@TylerClear]

That last 15 minutes was very rough, made me actually uncomfortable. Poor kid

[@RyLHatch1989]

Actually, all though they aren't mentioned in GoT, the Velaryons and Hightowers are still around. They're just not as prevalent in the story, but House Velaryon was pledged to Stannis until Blackwater, and House Hightower are besed in Oldtown and are bannermen to the Tyrells. In fact, Alerie Hightower is the wife of Mace Tyrell and mother of Loras and Margaery.

[@kadestroud111]

Lmaoooo covering the neck at that part is relatable af 22:35

[@scottfriedman6425]

House Velaryon and House Hightower still exist in timeline of Game of Thrones. Neither really appear in the HBO show but both are featured in the A Song of Ice and Fire books and are certain to have larger roles in the next book Winds of Winter. The Hightowers continue to rule Oldtown and the Velaryons retain control of Driftmark. In the books, the Velaryons are one of the few houses to declare for Stannis but are captured at the Battle of the Blackwater and bend the knee to Joffrey. Cersei names a Velaryon bastard, Aurane Waters, as Tommen's Master of Ships. He then steals the royal fleet and becomes a pirate. The Hightowers are being mysterious, old Lord Leyton Hightower and his daughter "the Mad Maid" are studying books of magic at the top of the Hightower and have not left in a decade. They are being set up play a major role in Euron Greyjoy's impending sack of Oldtown.

[@jasmineg_63]

So Criston didn't protect Aemond, and he lost his eye. And again, criston didn't protect the heir, so he got his head chopped off. Interesting.

[@Deking24]

The Velaryons and Hightowers weren’t featured that much in the show but they are still alive and well in the GOT . The focus was just on some of the other houses .

[@josephcosta2509]

"heads gonna roll" INDEED.

[@jcarbajal7348]

Defintely stoked that HOTD is back. We have a long way to go, but it feels like it is starting off well. If I am being honest though, I feel Shogun was peak TV this year. You guys really need to react to that when you get a chance. It will be up for all the awards and desveredly so. Keep up the great work guys!

[@justinnotfromphilly]

Rhaenyra and helaena are sisters and jahaerys is rhaenyra nephew, she will definitely be upset, and poor helaena, she is the one green you can root for to be happy

[@DanielleVlog365]

I wish Halaena and Rhaenyra were on the same side.

[@CoopaCoop]

And we're back!

[@lka9900]

It wouldn’t be the GoT-verse if there wasn’t a child murder

[@roryedward2631]

You know what really sucks? Criston should have been outside Helaenas door, guarding her the heirs, instead..he abondoned his guard for Alicent. Oof

[@42_BAmBI]

Daemons gonna kill that guys, yup instead he is the one who ordered that. Son for a son. They just tamed it down, cause it's too gruesome to show it on live TV.

[@sxzz3480]

and its alright, idk why people are mad about it

[@askyeyv7039]

@@sxzz3480 problem isnt they tamed it down. The problem is helaena peacefully choosing jaehaerys and then leaving like nothing happend instead of pleading to kill her instead, screaming or literally anything.

[@sxzz3480]

@@askyeyv7039 true but then her characters been brought up as silent , and a dreamer, perhaps thats why she didnt scream, and also they told her if you scream we kill u so maybe tht just scared her, her state of shock is still good enough

[@askyeyv7039]

@@sxzz3480 Yeah she is more of silent person but still, idk why would they even let her leave and risking she would bakc with kingsguard. Also, still giving some random necklace instead of begging, pleading to kill her... they could've done so much more without it being more gruesome

[@sxzz3480]

@@askyeyv7039 true true , i will take it tho. cuz its wht happens after is what matters, also is daeron confirmed?

[@djbillybool8173]

those final 15 minutes had my hands going numb PEAK IS BACK. also i think the director did such a good job, a lot of shots felt real and grounded. idk how to describe it but the scouting was so good

[@cannonandrus5554]

The scene with rhanerya and jace was so good

[@jiuada]

The reason why the Gold Cloak/ City Watch member let Daemon in is because the City Watch remains loyal to Daemon. The City Watch was pretty much a joke until Daemon took command of it, so they pretty much owe a lot to him and hold him in high regard. You can look back at that first episode to hear Daemon kind of talking to the Gold Cloaks before they did that rampage punishing the “criminals.” I think there was also a bit in Season 1 where they mention the City Watch’s loyalty to Daemon even though he stopped being the official Commander of the City Watch.

[@SpaceGhost1981]

They actually tamed this scene down from the books. In the books both children are awake and they make Helana chose. She choses and then they kill the opposite child. After they kill the child they look at the surviving child and say to it - See there, your mama wanted you dead. So it was like a double edged blow that the child would never forget and tortured Helena.

[@Nigels_Wrld]

the episode was amazing dude

[@cannonandrus5554]

Literally

[@galesal1109]

I have to say is refreshing to hear that people who haven't read the books on how much loved this episode. Book readers are so annoying. They keep complaining about how much better the books handled the blood and cheese scene.

[@brianalex5083]

I totally forgot that’s how they do ages and I was sitting there like no shot Jamie lied about being the youngest person to join the kings guard lol

[@jcompton8507]

Doesn't help that he was speaking of 2 people. If he had said, "when I was but eight and ten," a modern person could figure it out. But by saying, when we were but 8 and 10, you might think one was 8 and the other was 10...and wonder how that's possible for twins 😜

[@vertigo2894]

Brig is really handsome. All he needed to do was take off the cap hehe!

[@traviscue2099]

While its a toned down version of the original, I think it needed to be lol this episode makes me put faith back into the GoT universe.. Like even with the changes its ultra dark and fucked up.. But it's also raw in a way that makes sense.. When you hire fucking idiots to do a job, the job always get messy.

[@ZeldasMask]

As a real northerner and fan of the Starks that opening is just 👌🏻

[@nexo1398]

in the books the kill is much more darrrkerrr :V , this was like the soft version

[@sxzz3480]

its better its soft, i mean the cutting sound was brutal but too dark is not good either

[@nexo1398]

@@sxzz3480 I agree there is no need of gore but the scene needs to be more intense/dramatic.

[@sxzz3480]

@@nexo1398 true

[@jurb417]

6:35 how could they not tell that was vhagar from a distance, it's literally the BIGGEST dragon in existence at the moment that has a rider. all other dragons with riders are half the size or smaller