Peanut is a failure of Role Compression: Here's Why

the funny disease taketh away
Peanut is a plant in Plants VS Zombies 2. Its a very iconic one, for all the wrong reasons. Historically one of the most notable crappy plants in the game, we're here to cover why that is. And maybe how to make it better. Maybe. Or we can just joke about the entire time or something, I dunno thats basically how we roll.
Channel Discord: / discord
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:45 - What is Peanut?
4:33 - Sporks, Frogs and Seed Slots
8:08 - Multiple Places at Once
12:32 - Improving Peanut
16:15 - Conclusions
Footage is from:
Plants VS Zombies 2
Plants VS Zombies 1
Kingdom Rush Vengeance
Mods used (in no particular order):
AltverZ
Odyssey
Reflourished
Music used (in order of appearance):
Dung Defender - Hollow Knight
Reflection - Hollow Knight
Chemisty On and On - OMORI
Jurrassic Marsh Wave 1 - PVZ2
Jurrassic Marsh Final Wave - PVZ2
Zen Garden - PVZ1
Neon Mixtape Tour Choose Your Seeds - PVZ2
Outro is an original track.

[@icetide9411]

Peanut exists ONLY because someone thought of the joke, and they couldn't resist the pun

[@iam4026]

So is literally any other plant. Many plants don’t even have any puns for names and simply share the same name as their origin plant. Examples like Sunflower, wallnut, garlic, Jalapeño, Snow Pea, Squash, Lily Pad, Starfruit

[@azurabbit12]

​@@iam4026 Sunflower is a pun in the sense that it's a flower that produces sun Squash is a squash that squashes zombies And you're just outright incorrect on the wallnut one, it is a pun, the name of the irl plant is walnut, it's a walnut that is a wall

[@stinkzsys4995]

@@iam4026 cant forget Cattail! Its a cat with a cattail tail

[@11epicnoob]

Or was made cuz every Mint category needs its mandatory pea plant. My favorite is Enforce-Mint's Snap Pea

[@pikminman13]

@@azurabbit12 peanut is also a joke that only works in a context of pvz. the sun in sunflower is still interpreted as the object in the sky. the wal in walnut is phonetically the same as the word that you interpret as a defensive structure. pea does not mean projectile in real life. it only means that in pvz. i respect it though. it is a funny game specific joke.

[@that1apple]

Peanut is kinda like thought of celebrating Christmas with divorced parents. You don’t get 2 seperate christmases but more 2 halves of Christmas

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

idk my parents are divorsed so i actually have to choose if i want to be with my dad or my mom but i guess if i choosed both it would be worse than only being with one

[@TrueLadyEvilChan]

To be fair, that's just game balance in general. Not saying that Peanut isn't poorly balanced, but generally if things have stats in a type of strategy game, there are only so many variables you can add or adjust before they just become the same. Generally, a character class who can do both of something isn't going to do it as well as a class that specialize in something.

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

@@TrueLadyEvilChan makes sense the problem is really poor execution while is expected to not perform as good as other damaging plants the fact is based on the peashooter makes this a huge issue because at that point in the game you will be using stonger plants like treepeater+ plantorch or akii/melonpult which would perform greatly if it wasnt by the jester and you get better walls at that point like tall nut and i cant think of any other one lol

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

​@@xxizcrilexlxx1505gum nut, infinut and endurian, which niche is similiar with peanut but better

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

@@hasanmuttaqin464 well gum nut is not really like a blend of an atacker and a wall but rather an overall upgreade to ice letuce

[@thepotassiumqueen2137]

Isn't it weird that Peanut was introduced in Dark Ages, where 2 zombies (Jester and Wizard) counter peas and nuts?

[@xray8012]

Yep, along with Gravestones (a straight shooters nightmare), and Zombie Kings (which outarmor peas)

[@skeletonking2501]

Peas are stored in the nuts

[@GengUpinIpin]

Now thats what i call a scam

[@arcturuslight_]

@@skeletonking2501 nice

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

Also the fact knight zombie is spammed everywhere, making peanuts damage completely worthless

[@GNVS300]

I've always preferred Endurian. He may not be the strongest at either offence or defence by any means, but he absolutely craps on chickens and weasels

[@BadBoyBird]

I agree

[@BonziBUDDY]

I found it funny how he mentions that peanut was supposed to be a counter to jester zombie, but it's actually probably one of the worst options because peanut just gives him more projectiles to deflect and only delays the inevitable instead of dealing damage (wow, almost like there are better wall plant options in that scenario?). Endurian is a much more effective counter since his attack is not projectile based meaning he can counter jester zombie pretty well. As long as the attacking plants behind it are laser bean or fume shroom, or something else jester can't deflect.

[@nicholas7743]

​@@BonziBUDDY Yes, that was the reason he brought it up

[@lcajueiro]

Also endurian is cracked against newspapers, 1 endurian can fully kill a newspaper most of the time

[@Tankem]

Don't forget jesters too. Endurian is a good option against them

[@Emmariscobar]

I will always find it hilarious that popcap decided to show off PeaNut in middle ages, where the "Pea" part gets hard-countered by jesters, and the "Nut" part gets hard countered by wizards.

[@ditto-w]

well they also decided to put garlic in a world where every single special counters it

[@kang2448]

​@@ditto-w I think the idea with garlic is to move breakdancer zombie to the other lane, so he won't push the zombies forward. Well the problem is that, most of the time other lane will have zombies as well. So it just end up useless

[@Emmariscobar]

@@kang2448 Another problem with that idea is that breakdancer zombies will usually spawn slighly behind another zombie which will eat the garlic first, which leaves you with a 50% chance of the problem just getting pushed onto another lane instead of actually getting solved.

[@iam4026]

Not only that, but when peanut’s health goes down, his fire rate also halves to the same rate as the catapults while still dealing a pea’s worth of damage

[@karlispovisils5297]

@@kang2448 I think it's actually meant to synergize with Phat Beet

[@gab_gabriel7091]

You know what, for all its flaws, this plant was very clearly made simply because of the "Pea Nut" joke and honestly, he's perfect the way he is. He's like a pug. Barely functioning and don't live for that long but cute in its own way

[@cornesalvo9366]

Okay, but pugs do not deserve to live that way. Neither does pea-nut.

[@chickencurry420]

​@@cornesalvo9366 There are at least 6 languages in the world and you chose to speak Truth

[@TCStink3]

In other words: they should be be cleansed from the face of the earth.

[@RipRLeeErmey]

​@@chickencurry420 I'm not a linguistics expert or anything, but I think there's a lot more than just six.

[@flopdeop135]

​@@RipRLeeErmey he wasn't technically wrong, he said _at least_ six

[@mrwimpyfriendlykid565]

Peanut has a interesting concept just executed poorly. If there was like another mechanic then I like it

[@xgoldenx8122]

They should make it like a attacking primal walnut

[@varindergill1290]

Like snap pea

[@mrwimpyfriendlykid565]

@@xgoldenx8122 That would be cool but of course not good as it

[@BonziBUDDY]

@@xgoldenx8122 If it at least was able to survive a one shot kill or recharge quickly it would be more viable

[@JoseViktor4099]

Endurian is far better executed imo Edit: This was before I finished the video so It show how good Endurian is, I mean It lacks any counter that PeaNut could have like Jester or Shield . Also he saved me more than once in Eclise

[@Denilsonortiz1989]

You know what's the worst part, the peanut seed is a premium plant on dark ages, where jesters everywhere so it's practically useless besides you got fumeshroom

[@markopopovic9874]

Also wizards just transform it so the protective aspect of it is useless

[@tommynotdream398]

Everything in the world is a problem for it. Kings which give and repair knight helmets, meaning the damage that the peanut will be dealing is USELESS. Graves, the peanut shoots a straight projectile, it's just gonna be a more expensive wallnut most of the time. Wizard zombies No natural sun production and potions, which buffs zombies, exist in that world.

[@guncolony]

It's a shame because if they had made Jester so that it moves SLOWER while reflecting projectiles not faster, then Peanut would be a very useful plant in that world, allowing you to slow down Jesters while blocking their projectiles at the same time

[@uruacufutsal1]

Plus theres a lot graves wich makes peashooter like plants useless there

[@gaerekxenos]

I just never bothered with walls. More damage all the time. If I needed a "wall," I'd fodder some cheap plants on a lower CD or cost. If there was a dangerous enough enemy, I probably had a nuke available for it since my main line-up is usually some 4~5 plants

[@psychicjellyfish9466]

It'd be neat if Peanut actually did more damage when at low health, to encourage its usage as a defender.

[@youtube-kit9450]

Yeah. This change alone might fix it from a lol-level plant to a plant one might consider using.

[@obsiangravel]

Nah, that would make too much sense.

[@nithraliabrawlstars6541]

It makes no sense because in reality the Attack speed becomes even lower because the Nut loses the second head💀

[@destroything]

@@nithraliabrawlstars6541 the other nut would panic so it would make sense

[@nithraliabrawlstars6541]

@@destroything even then its unrealistic if the lonly nut would triple its attack speed.

[@acreativeprogrammer]

If toadstool is like a spoon and a fork combined together, then peanut is like a chopstick and a fork combined together.

[@Obedthian-UK]

Porkshop

[@TheReZisTLust]

A Chork of you will

[@uwuowo214]

You mean a spnife? Knife spoon

[@georgemelons3651]

​@@uwuowo214don't bring a spife to a knork fight

[@CasuallyShadow]

More like a toaster and a fork

[@MrMariosonicman]

Instead of being the worst of both plants, it could be mixed with a slighty better version, have both mouths shoot at the same time to be more like a repeater while keeping the firing speed, so when it loses a head its still a better peashooter. And be as tall as a tallnut to stop fliers, unless you lose that head

[@DinnerForkTongue]

For how much sun it costs, that better be worth it.

[@user-cs1tp1ep9m]

​@@DinnerForkTongueit will be worth way more than 300 if that happens

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@user-cs1tp1ep9m Sun well spent.

[@JustAnotherJames3]

Pea-Nut was initial my favorites plant because I absolutely loved the name and design. But, as I've gotten better at the game, I've come to find much better alternatives.

[@JustAnotherJames3]

Proposal for Pea-Nut fix: - The farther back it is, the larger the peas it shoots are (to signify dealing more damage when farther back; similar to Red Stinger) - The farther forward it is, the higher toughness it is (also similar to Red Stinger) - Kiwibeast "at half toughness->damage twice as fast" - Cut it down to 100 sun

[@acake6654]

​@@JustAnotherJames3 * uses peanut just for its DPS (similar to Red Stinger) *

[@jaisenroa4219]

at that point just use red stinger (which is cooler and easier to get anyway)

[@Felix048]

I'm still using pea-nut today, not because of how i adore him, it's just he's really good when paired with torchwood and reinforce-mint but barely anyone uses that combo.

[@flameofthephoenix8395]

@@acake6654 Then you could make the defense go up exponentially making it a good defense too.

[@Dxm612]

Would pea-nut be fixed if it just had repeater’s attack speed and switched to peashooter’s attack speed when half eaten?

[@underrated1524]

Sadly, no. At best, that turns it into Red Stinger v2.0 where everyone uses it for its DPS and its weaksauce walling capabilities are ignored altogether.

[@Grsas]

I mean it would just be a better repeater most of the time because it’s cheaper and people will just put it in the back

[@LaEthercitaPues]

before people told me, i was thinking that Peanut did that

[@XperimentorEES]

I'd say doing the reverse would be more interesting, power from desperation type of thing you could build around in the risk vs reward sense. But with plantfood healing whatever you use it on, then you're punishing the player for using a primary game mechanic.

[@TelPhi_]

@@XperimentorEES Punishing the player for using a primary mechanic is great, it introduces strategy into the mix and makes the gameplay more varied and interesting. A great idea, really.

[@underrated1524]

The closest thing Pea-Nut has to a niche is being a plant that occupies the back column in levels with backwards-moving zombies (Prospector, Pterodactyl). Pea-Nut can accomplish things from its position at the back while not needing to be replaced constantly as backwards zombies take bites out of it.

[@cheesymeatball174]

this niche could be expanded on by making one of the nozzles face backwards, like an armoured split pea

[@takojiwild847]

Role compression is hard as they tried to create a perfectly balance plant back then. Now, role compression are basically used to create, new, op plants (Pokra, Headbutter, Draftodil)

[@marzipancutter8144]

role compression is a hard thing to balance. If you make it better than the single choice, those become redundant. If you make them weaker, it's preferable to use the individual picks instead if possible. The niche that role compression excels in is if the resource saved by taking the compressed version is very valuable, and the traded power isn't significant enough to make it unviable.

[@The_Milkkk]

"Maybe some guy will do a challenge with peanut" Yes someone did

[@rawvegankid]

I am 1000% convinced they came up with the pun first and the stats later.

[@doomclasher9287]

when making a character isn't creating the stats one of the last steps?

[@Toki-Woki]

Man I've had this idea for a roguelike pvz concept where plant choice and low seed slots are quite important, even then Peanut wouldn't work that well :(

[@SporianSummit]

Reminds me of that binding of isaac pvz fangame

[@ucnguyen6375]

aren't pvz2 already have that mode

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

@@ucnguyen6375 yes it has but you dont need it (like just get a repeater and any wall, you have the slots for that)

[@dogwithahat0383]

​@@SporianSummit i.rule is peak

[@Toki-Woki]

@@SporianSummit YES YES very much like that! The main mechanic was going to be its multiplayer aspect of grabbing a party of friends to try and get through making choices and getting new plants, there was also going to be a cross pollination mechanic letting you "fuse" two plants into one costing the plants but making a more powerful plant :)

[@daigonnasema]

I actually like Peanut because its design being versatile is actually very good in dealing against unexpected situation like quick save against 2 imp at final columm, tanky enough to be a secondary attacker/protector in columm 3 against imp throwing, parachute drop, low tide... not to mention some ability to anti-rush if used as an main attacker

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

ok the imp throwing situation is a great idea

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

why are some of the best game design video essays on youtube about fucking PVZ of all games

[@Orangutanus]

For me Peanut is actually not too bad, i think that Popcap was going for a base defender that will also act as a support damager, you want to place him in the back so he can use his shooting but if the zombies break through your defence you get a wall which can tank a bit so you can get more sun or even kill the zombies attacking it, for a buff i think that instead of shooting 2x slower when eaten, the lower Peanut gets mad and shoots 2x faster than the original Peanut, i think it would make him a more viable base defender

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

yeah sadly any peashooter is heavily punished by the jester and the mage as peas cant penetrate to kill the mage and get reflected by jesters leaving you in a "RECHARGE GODDAM BOMB" situation because you can easily defend the horde of zombies with tons of sunsrooms and, mag grass and sun beam (yes i was insane enough to do that)

[@peckypork]

Even then, you'll be using two wall plants, both high (or low if you're primal WN) cool down, but Pea nut is just a slightly faster PS, not even out dps'ing repeater. For the high cd and mid dps of pea nut and damage, it just isn't worth it

[@titaniumsheld1935]

@@xxizcrilexlxx1505 plant food instant recharge?

[@xxizcrilexlxx1505]

@@titaniumsheld1935 not nearly enough for those moments and if i had a plantfood efect id use it to stall the whole map with the lettuce or use the heavy damage from a catapult power

[@titaniumsheld1935]

@@xxizcrilexlxx1505 im talking about cherry

[@winz4418]

still, that doesn’t change the fact that Peanut is the cutest gemnium plant, so i’d recommend it 10/10 👍

[@mkks4559]

What about Sapfling? Yeah it’s only available for like a month every year but it’s still a gemium technically.

[@user-qf4du7lc4z]

Dont you dare forget about ghost pepper

[@verbugterherrderdunkelheit6086]

When I first played pvz2 I thought it was the best plant and desperatly wanted to have it, but couldn't, cause I played on my uncles tablet. 'Every lane just walls, but instead of spike weed it had the equivalent of an MG peashooter" was my train of thought.

[@redrudy07]

I’ve found one niche where peanut is ever so slightly optimized. 3rd row from the house when there are gargantaurs, to handle flung imps, and far left row to counter prospector zed or pterodactyl drops. Are there better options? Sure, but not many that don’t eat more slots, or have a wind up, or even need a bit of leveling.

[@ricksterlias]

They also get much MUCH better if you use the reinforcemint. It plant foods every peanut and buffs their damage for a while.

[@likeablekiwi6265]

Peanut might've been more useful if we had more zombie types that specifically attacks the back lane just like the first game.

[@Lilliana1]

Short version of this video PEANUT COMBINES ROLE OF PEASHOOTER AND WALNUT. TWO OF THE WORST PLANTS IN THE GAME. GO FIGURE

[@imajokeforaliving6380]

ah yes classic case of trying to do 2 jobs and failling at both

[@chickensniffer451]

"Is the ability to damage zombies better than stalling them out" endurian:

[@blazie42069]

The only use for peanut revolves around reinforce mint which is just sad. It should get an extra pea or something to make it better like two peas

[@abderianagelast7868]

I actually quite like the concept of this kind of mixed plant, it's a cool design concept and makes for an interesting challenge where you want to make sure it's not strictly better than its derivative plants, but also want it to be good enough to actually be useful as a slot merger. The shotgun idea sounds excellent, and encourages it to be used where you'd normally have walls, so I definitely like that idea for improving Peanut. I had a second idea though, and this one would involve keeping the firepower reduction at half health: what if getting to that point added thorns damage like Endurian? After all, peanut shells can be really spiky when broken, and converting the damage like this preserves the idea of Peanut changing drastically through health states while also keeping the damage values similar across the board, instead of a severe damage reduction.

[@Purpledlime]

Now you should do a video about why the red stinger is an amazing plant for beginners for how bad it’s special mechanics are

[@Cragmos]

pea-nut's main use is actually in penny's pursuit, where about 20 of them will be set up and then the usage of reinforce-mint means that the field is being hit with the equivalent of 20 peashooter plant food boosts, and combined with blover it can be beaten easily

[@markomarmut4736]

3 rows of nuts and 1 row of torchwood i clear everytime

[@h3nder]

Okay but the dude who's doing the nut only challenge loves this plant, so it must be good.

[@Knightros]

Came for the nuts Stayed for the music

[@urieldiazavellaneda405]

Doma Doma

[@iam4026]

Problem is, the inherent roles of Peashooter and walnut conflict each other. Peashooter is meant to be a long range plant, and can’t do well in short range due to his low health. Wall nut does his job well at close range due to high health. By combining them together, you get a plant that forces close range engagement but also reduces firepower when health goes down

[@juanrodriguez9971]

My idea on how to buff it is a bit of a big rework, I want Peanut to take two spaces at the same time, that way it can protect two spots really fast, and just like regular gameplay, you can lose half of the peanut but that won't be that much of a problem since it is not losing half it's fire power, and also makes an interesting dynamic were if you want to place something in it's place for a single lane then you have to disprotect the other lane. I love the concept, it was the first gemium plant I ever bought, then regretted it because Peanut, so I want the concept to have a better excecution.

[@LordMarshyMan]

Peanut is a good counter in Wild West, Lost City, and Pirate Seas. I think it’s kinda like a reworked split pea in the way that it can deal with zombies that show up behind the line of defence well, especially if they land on it

[@razorback9999able]

I've seen role compression before in other games, especially RTS games like StarCraft II, where the Thor fails at being anti-air due to it's terrible speed, or the Void Ray, which is too good and versatile.

[@mrsmajler1260]

Gotta love the video quality going up every video, keep it up man

[@XxTheCupidKidxX]

I think a funny idea that might make peanut good is there being a decent chance that any zombie that bites it dies instantly Like a peanut allergy

[@KingDoodies]

Peanut sounds funny so you are factully wrong

[@MiloWildfire]

I cannot believe you did not mention SCP-173 in the beloved peanut section. but, great video as always!

[@DaZebraffe]

I feel like if peanut got a buff to its health and/or blocked things from going over it like a tall nut does, it would be pretty useful as an actually-decent wall that just happens to also help out a bit with damage. Alternatively, with a slight boost to firing rate, it could be decent as a damage dealer that has enough toughness to hold the line as a final defender, until you can get something better back in, for in case a row gets overwhelmed by zombies.

[@8thFurno]

You saying “Dark Ages part 2” made me realize that I’m freaking old.

[@LanaIsUnderrated]

The way I would fix Peanut, is just completly remaking the plant The Peanut Fighter Its a mele wall plant 200 sun cost 4000 hitpoints 10 seconds Recharge 20 Damage 0.8 Firerate Close range Special ability: If peanut fighter drops under half hitpoints, its firerate is increased to 0.6 and damage is increased to 30 This would make it a much better plant, making you want to place it infront to get value from the hitpoints, while also getting value from the ability I increased the suncost because it would maybe be too op otherwise

[@DocSlayingyoudown]

I think Popcap just made Peanut as a joke and thought it was really funny and added it

[@twinofsans3455]

5:38 I was genuinely not expecting a Kingdom Rush reference in this video, but im happy to see it!

[@stark8674]

15:57 Peanut Afton

[@fishstickfailur3]

this is why we should use the ultimate plant, perfume shroom

[@Rags666]

Tomb tangler *W H E N ?*

[@fishstickfailur3]

​@@Rags666we could use him however his limitless power is restrainted Perfume-shroom is free to run amok

[@dawipeach8948]

What about Sun Bean?

[@fishstickfailur3]

​@@dawipeach8948 too useful

[@mihajlonikolic3973]

What always annoyed me about peanut is that he has two months but shoots from one at a time. Why not just make him shoot 2 peas at once like a repeater? It would easily solve his none existant damage problem.

[@jongameaddict]

The intro joke reminded me very much of the kind of stories Reviewbrah makes, lmao. Love it.

[@OWTShark]

You should seriously consider creating a tier list video of the plants, it would be very interesting and insightful to watch.

[@sabertoothdragon6925]

Peanut is kinda like the beta red stinger. Can be placed in both the front for defense as well as the back for offense. It’s not the best in either but combines both to save space. Because it adapts based on where it is on the lawn, it makes it far more viable for that niche. If peanut’s fire rate was better justifying why you’d have it in the back but worsens when taking damage as a defensive plant, I could see what they were going for. But like I said, red stinger fills that role.

[@Pudding404]

I bet they felt real proud of themselves with peanut as a concept, and rightfully so. But even before all the powercreep when new worlds were being added, peashooters weren't the star standard for damage. Walnut was always good, but why would you spend more for a plant with basically the same usage? You won't use peanut for offense, that's all I'm saying.

[@Abysalss]

I mean it absolutely carry’s the nuts only challenge early on

[@michaeltrinh4394]

I love the love for PVZ in these videos. Keep it up! If I was still playing I might sub but those days are over. Here's some hacks I discovered baxk in the day, which may still work: Use plant food on the jumping bean, then use clover at the right time immediately afterwards, and you can clear the field cheaply. I have A bunch of other stuff about the game as I "mastered" it years ago, but maybe I'll just make a video about it. 😂

[@doc_1203]

peanut in vanilla is a fever dream

[@Warpzel65]

A case of slot compression worth bringing up imo is the crocodile, since it looks like its trying to be a shooter that can be used as a mini lawnmower, but one aspect is worthless and the other has a niche so its only really used for one

[@user-lb5js2nb3c]

" PvZ1 Blover is worse than cactus and plantern" Cactus: are you sure about that?

[@shupp6267]

hi! number one peanut fan here! love your content, love this video, keep up the good work. you need more subs for this quality.

[@mak3x7]

The only use ive seen of peanut is in a nut only challenge.

[@BenDover-bd4hg]

Goblin man?

[@Pacca64]

I always wanted to get peanut to work, they looked so fun. But it wasn't meant to be...

[@fabrizeantonio4425]

All this thinking about Pea nuts and how Primal Wall Nuts are better walls just made me realize how a Primal Pea Nut would somehow be an even _worse_ idea than the original Pea Nut The "Primal Pea" part stuns and pushes zombies back preventing you from using the "Primal Nut" part 😭 like a Chard Guard but it never dies and also sucks

[@kolkagaming1234]

Peanut is not a bad plant. Mixing a Peashooter & Wall Nut combined together was executed well.

[@memerboi7128]

I wonder what drugs creeps consumed while making the intro

[@Creeps20]

too much

[@user-oy2zg3bt6n]

here is an interesting peanut concept i had keep the sun cost and recharge but change the plants it fuses (from peashooter + wallnut to repeater + tallnut) change the pea firing rate to be like repeater (using both it's heads at the same time), change the health from 4000->6000 and make it so that it doesn't loses half of it's DPS from being at half health and wallah

[@pumpimjack23]

Get well soon!! I love your videos

[@wat3rm3l0nx7]

He was my first gemium plant, I was like 10 and looked, he attack, he protec, he must be good as heck

[@michaelgum97]

One change that I remember seeing is to make thhe projectiles stun the zombie for a second. Allowing to deal a little more damage while not getting worn down as quickly.

[@FluffyEclairs]

Like corn in pvz one?

[@michaelgum97]

@@FluffyEclairs Yeah, his niche is quite valuable.

[@jsnUej39hrsbOQmwJqw92bLgoP]

16:06 how he knew?

[@williamrothan764]

Pea-Nut is just failed Red Stinger.

[@NicknotNak]

I think it could be used in levels where you are showered by imps landing in column 3, but thats really it. Decent at range, able to take a little nibble, and awkwardly in the back but still being munched.

[@Magicwaterz]

Can you talk about Boom Balloon Flower? I feel like that plant is too useless for me as it is too heavy on micromanagement compared to other plants lik Magnifying Grass, Coconut Cannon, Banana Launcher, etc. It's reload time is too quick for you to pay attention, unlike Magnifying Grass, while has no reload time, is actually fine since it is tap to activate. It is also annoying to use unlike Banana Launcher where its damage output is quite reliable while for this plant, you need to stack up balloons in one square to do decent damage. And oftentimes, those balloons explode too soon due to zombies coming in quick, or it just expires for not getting any of it. And just planting this expensive plant is a waste of either a seed slot and/or plant space. Waste of a seed slot because you could have used a better burst damage dealer, and wasted plant space because planting too many makes you too busy to use the plant, and waste a lot of space for dealing damage. Or just planting a few to mitigate that but you still have weaker lanes.

[@joyfulstone]

Ew I'm allergic to premium plants.

[@akshanshkrishna]

I think a good mechanic to peanut would be that the amount of heads of the peanut is random, the highest can be 6 heads, the minimum could be 2 heads as it is right now, each head having 2000 hp, making it a much better plant to use.

[@Zeleven87]

9:09 you sounded like jerry seinfeld here. Like just nailed that impression

[@distressed_smoliv2695]

Peanut is actually one of my favorite plants. It looks super cool, and also, it has one of my favorite strategies. Its mint makes all of them activate plant food at once, and it’s super satisfying

[@aranaewastaken]

I thought up of a rework for how peanut works, and it involves two changes: - Peanut deals more damage the closer a zombie gets to it. This would make it more viable to place on the frontlines, as it can dispose of zombies with high health without being on life support by the time it’s defeated. It also makes you think about wether or not Peanut would be more effective in the front or middle of the lawn in a level. - Tapping on Peanut would cause the upper half to change direction and fire from the back, and the damage increases the farther a zombie gets to the lawn. This would make it a counter against zombies that can slip past its defenses (like if they’re carried by a dinosaur) while still being able to deal decent damage to zombies in the front

[@camwoodstock]

shoutout to pea-nut in altverz because literally we got so burned by how awful pea-nut is that we didn't use it until the game literally forced us to do so, forcing us to learn they deliberately changed it into literally anything more impressive than "peashooter + wall-nut"

[@TimoDmon007]

Love the kingdom rush ref :)

[@jackson4672]

I feel like Peanut was supposed to counter Knights as it can both stall and do damage to them, but Magnet shrooms do that better. Also Peanut gets countered by Jester and Wizard as they countered the peas and the nuts

[@leaf_up]

I love Peanut's design and wished it worked well. Maybe I'll use it regardless of usefulness

[@edgysnarfbrownie5778]

All they have to do to make peanut good is to lower its rage and increase its fire rate/damage.

[@silvershift5505]

Idea for what peanut could do: not lose half its dps when it’s below half and deal more damage the closer the zombies are

[@Gamesmarts194]

I honestly don't think that Pea-Nut is SUPPOSED to be role compression, or at least it isn't deliberately. It's simply two iconic and classic plants merged together as a fun joke. At least that's what I think. That said it's still not fun to use because it clashes with itself so hard lol

[@gaerekxenos]

There are uses for it. It's just... not optimal in most cases, or you just have so many options anyway that you don't really care to use Peanut where it has potential anyway. When I still played, I used to spam the chain lightning plant along with the onion panel for massive lightning storm swarms, and that generally covered most scenarios back in the day

[@fatherplatypus2316]

Can you make a video talking about Kiwibeast? Ive watched many pvz2 essay video, and ive never seen any one of them talk about this plant. Its like this plant is forgotten, and i just remember it when you mentioned it in the video

[@2fort]

Peanut is for the people that put the sun producers in the last lane

[@elmoloco6131]

I think introducing a New special zombie which attacks from far would've the best solución, the perfect zombie to counter, protecting plants behind him and attacking that zombie, like an Archer or crossbower.

[@yuridc1780]

I think, peanut should get a higher cost reduction in leveling up, a cooldown reduction, and once it loses a head, its peas can penetrate 1 or 2 targets, now with reduced cost and time it can be used more as both pea and nut more simultaneously, and now you can chose between raw dps on 1 zombie by protecting the top head or weaker killing power but same dps by allowing it to be eaten.

[@ryelo5448]

Peanut being a shotgun imo made oeanut so much fun to use. Its a really smarr idea bc it solves the main issue with peanut, which is why would you out it in the front. The answer is bc shotguns do more damage upfront. And bc mods like using gargs more, i personally like having them on colomn 3 due to imps. Why is peanut in dark ages though

[@methdonalds9044]

Peanut should start standup comedy

[@TheMaskedAleyna]

0:26 lies I'm still alive you can't sto-

[@jismeraiverhoeven]

Personally i dont mind the peashooters firing rate getting halved, but it needs stats that wouldnt actively punish you for using it defensively. Id say make it fire twice like repeater and give it the same cost as repeater. You now have a repeater if you use it offensively, a peashooter with much more health or a wall that can attack enemies like endurian. His greatest strength would be his versitality

[@smol_lil_demon]

I like to think that Peanut was just made as a joke

[@wyattskinner697]

Put it in the middle (A compromise between both) or in the back as a emergency barrier

[@manineo3538]

As a Peanut, I like this video For buffing it, probably duplicate its damage output but heavily reduce its range would work

[@Starfruit1]

Pea nut has a nice concept though it doesn’t really have a use

[@terencehood3971]

Creeps20 is a failure of role compression here’s why

[@nathanl.6225]

I don’t really care how good or bad it ist I still love the little guy

[@greenrifleman2969]

Ngl, Altverz's take on the pea-nut is GENIUS.