Pelinal Whitestrake - Tamriel's Greatest Elf Exterminator

[@pancreasnowork9939]

"Pelinal those Elves have families, think of the children!" "They're next."

[@aidanker-foz6511]

Based time traveling cyborg

[@hailstorm9735]

Every race: "Pelinal, you killed an elf child..." Nords: "Amazing, mission complete, that's why your the best Pelinal."

[@sars910]

*Vulkan approves*

[@dt_grey4521]

Pelinal-Pilled

[@BryanKrager]

"Elder scrolls lore is interpretive" a truer statement has never been said considering dragon breaks, the in-universe answer to multiple endings in a game.

[@alextruecustodian6174]

"The existence of casual racism implies that of competitive racism, and I am going to win"- Pelinal Whitestrake

[@Ruvaakdein]

It's like when the person who's first place on the leaderboard is so far beyond the second place one that you start to question just how someone could be that good at something.

[@d.n5287]

He was competing with the Ayelid's racism towards humans.

[@seventhcyborg]

Pelinal is beyond competitive racism. He's practicing professional racism.

[@afrightenedsloth]

@@Ruvaakdein The Nigel Richards of elf murder

[@DarnedYankee]

@@seventhcyborg “Death is only right for a elf in my sight” Pelinal Whitestrake (maybe)

[@tincoln]

Third Era: "Pelinal might've gone too far in some places." Fourth Era: "Pelinal didn't go far enough."

[@FirstLast-wk3kc]

Yeah

[@woohoomusic5098]

Pelinal needs to come back and sink the Summerset Isles into the sea

[@VerdeMorte]

Fun Fact: Pelinal is honored in Skyrim as an honorary Stormcloak. The Blades also saw him as the inspirational turning point in their fight against Thalmor. *F%CK THE THALMOR!*

[@quinnholloway5400]

He killed the cats I am very upset he did that :(

[@Kami-Sama197]

@@quinnholloway5400 all pointy ears deserve the ticket out of nirn

[@somewhatamusing759]

Pelinal "If its ear is a knife end its life" Whitestrake

[@indrickboreale7381]

I mean, Ayleids deserved it - they made sculptures out of flesh of slaves, imagine the smell

[@captaintitus4637]

Wonder if he was the incarnation of every beings in every mutiverse hatred of elves combined

[@discountplaguedoctor88]

@@indrickboreale7381 Yeah, you know that the Ayleids deserved it when their last surviving member admits that they actually did earn that butchering. Not making this up, that actually happens. In ESO admittedly, but that game isn't non-canon.

[@deanrazor9023]

@@indrickboreale7381 wtf?!?!?

[@jkee9760]

Pelinal "if it's an elf, their head is on my shelf" Whitestrake

[@SirConto]

Should be noted that Pelinal Whitestrake's equipment were supposedly "the Crusader's Relics". You can get those in Oblivion. And they're impossible to wear if your infamy (which is the game's measure of how good or evil a character is) is bellow -1. In which case the game will tell you: "Your crimes have made you unfit to wield the Crusader's Relics. Walk the Pilgrim's Way to repent of your sins and once again seek the favor of the gods." Which seems to suggest that for all the butchering Pelinal did, he never actually did anything wrong.

[@alfalldoot6715]

The world itself hates elves

[@FirstLast-wk3kc]

Why would you assume it even might have been wrong?))

[@MrTNT49]

Lmao

[@overlord5032]

Lorkhan must have made that rule

[@RattusMannus]

Pelinal did nothing wrong

[@ericmonaco4509]

If Pelinal saw Tamriel today he'd go on an absolute rampage

[@joshuaarnett762]

I like to imagine he'd stand perfectly still for a little bit, before beginning to vibrate as DOOM music began to emit from his very being, before beelining for the Summerset Isles.

[@AremStefaniaK]

are you referencing to the state of things in tes 6 or how are things in Eso

[@ericmonaco4509]

@@AremStefaniaK I think the state around the time in Skyrim mostly seeing Elves controlling Cyrodiil

[@420mralucard]

Stormcloaks and the Empire stop fighting just to watch Pelinal go ape shit on the Altmer.

[@spongeyspikes09]

My Dragonborn would fanboy over Pelinal and if Pelinal goes to the Sumerset Isle for another round of Elven genocide he'd scream "WAIT! TAKE ME WITH YOU!"

[@crimsonpotemkin]

I find very funny the idea of Pelinal seeing Khajit, looking away, looking back at them, thinking for a bit and then saying: "Furry elf"

[@ntolman]

There are many forms of Khajit. Some actually look like elves. Others look like housecats.

[@astranix0198]

​@@ntolmanThe housecats are Alfiq, the Elflike are the Ohmes and Ohmes-raht

[@Volvith]

@@astranix0198 _They're about to be Ohwas and Ohmes-dead. :)_

[@ElCapri3490]

lol

[@francismarchand1637]

It baffles me that he’s most likely right about that…

[@thatvillainjay]

Pelinal killing khajit because he thought they were some kind of new elf is hilarious

[@igncom1]

Admittedly there are some Khajit that simply look like a hairy elf, so I guess he must have thought the others were just elves by association.

[@zeche8477]

Ohmes khajiit look like short wood elves.

[@daasbuffy]

According to the Khajit creation myth, Azura look wood elves and "made them into a more pleasing form". So technically not wrong.

[@OHGAS-rt5uc]

​@@daasbuffywait, so that means azura is a furry?!

[@daasbuffy]

@@OHGAS-rt5uc I cannot comment on the whims of a god, but she basically took some wood elves, turned them into cat girls and then dumped them into a desert.

[@Alexander59059]

I just want to point out that in Oblivion his armor can’t be equipped by characters with high infamy. This confirms that elf genocide is morally good.

[@emetanti]

Going by the absolute shittery of a track record the elves have in this setting....it checks out.

[@RichterTheRat]

Or, more likely, Bethesda doesn't know their own established lore, and every game that gets released has something in it that's added with zero thought or care.

[@thehuckleberry8349]

​@@RichterTheRatThe in-game lore is told to us through in-universe unreliable narrators. Just because one book or person says something, does not mean it is be-all end-all fact of the matter at hand. The people in-universe have their own agendas and biases completely independant from bullet-point lists of facts and exposition for us to read

[@Tespri]

If you think about it... Every major evil and issue was caused by elves in the Tamriel.

[@torinnbalasar6774]

​@@Tespriwas Skyrim's dragon infestation caused by elves? I'm not too familiar with the deep lore of the Elder Scrolls.

[@aonbrogan8266]

The fact that Pelinal came back to the merithic era in plate armor is like someone in Skyrim showing up wearing Advanced Power Armor from Fallout wielding a plasma rifle.

[@Spino-hx2mr]

Could you explain this?

[@ArthurD]

​​@@Spino-hx2mrplate armor was not invented in the merethic era. It's far too advanced for the period.

[@vince-zm8ds]

​@@Spino-hx2mr imagine your tribe just learning to make studded leather armor with small bits of iron you found sifting through the soil and a fucking knight shows up and is damn near impenetrable to the majority of your weapons

[@Idekreally]

But thought the way the elder scrolls universe worked was that each era regressed as opposed to progressing in technology. Hence travel to the moons in the 1st era

[@EvelynNdenial]

@@vince-zm8ds hate to "achshully" you but studded leather isn't a thing, someone saw brigandine and not knowing what they were looking at called it studded leather and the mistake has been perpetuated ever since. brigandine is metal strips a few inches wide attached to the inside of a cloth or leather jacket. the plates each overlap the next to make quite flexible armor with protection nearing that of a solid breastplate. brig is actually contemporary with the complex full plate harness we all know, even to the point some nobles chose to wear brigandine with the rest of their plate armor instead of a breastplate.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

"GEORGE WASHINGTON!!!!!" -Achilles, 1150 BC

[@PerogiXW]

Achilles after Patroclus died: DELETE TROY

[@pablo_giustiniani]

"VIVA LA LIBERTAD CARAJO!!!!" *-Odysseus, nearly four thousand years before the birth of Javier Milei*

[@theredrisen9520]

Alessia: "We're supposed to be a unit!" Pelinal on his way to murder more elves singlehandedly: "Suck my unit"

[@oujimandias6485]

_Sympathy for the Devil starts playing_

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

“But not the bulls unit!” - also whitestreak

[@TJVBernal]

​@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus alessia: too late

[@lucaspassos8246]

Pelinal : More like unit to shut the fuck up

[@ComicGladiator]

He was a unit.

[@Kaboom0]

There's an easy way to explain how Pelinal knew Reman's name. The Divines blessed him with schizophrenia so strong he could see glimpses of the future. Naturally one of those visions was Hrol humping a hillock.

[@nestorgamer9746]

Vampire The Mascarade Malkavians be like

[@Mare_Man]

That or millennia of oral tradition just added that bit into the Song of Pelinal at some point.

[@road-eo6911]

I AM CYRODIIL CUM

[@smoothtrooper781]

I don't know if he had his "like when a dream no longer needs its dreamer" moments by the time that happened, but that could literally be what's happening, he gets so pissed off his body goes killing and his mind has like an out of body divine experience or some shit

[@callmecalvin7297]

​@@Mare_Man gay + lame + anthrophobic + Mer-lover + L + ratio + your race got wiped out by a single dude and betrayed by the gods

[@henrychurch6062]

Pelinal: So, what enchantment are you gonna put on your axe? Ysgramor: Racism. Pelinal: Atta Boy!

[@Galimeer5]

The fact that people theorize Pelinal was actually a time traveling cyborg from the future because of a few weirdly-worded lines of a description of him is the perfect encapsulation of the rabbit hole that is Elder Scrolls lore

[@drlca6601]

Elder Scrolls Lore is exactly how not to write lore and it's so damn fun. I love it, but I view it as parody practically, which when you consider the tone of games like Oblivion and Morrowind, it makes complete sense. I just wish we would get a game of Morrowind and Oblivion's stature, but with modern combat mechanics, and all the funny hijinks. I see no reason not to make this game. They have wasted so much time on horrible games that haven't even made them that much money and it's been 13 years and counting since we got an ES game.

[@aLukepop]

iirc a lot of Elder Scrolls lore was written to be a lot more of a mythos than it was game lore. At least the "wacky" bits are.

[@Jiub_SN]

@@drlca6601even oblivion was an utter mess, it's where the stupid ass "unreliable narrator" thing comes from because Bethesda didn't use design documents and fucked up the lore in way too many ways to the point that it was obviously bad. Morrowind lore was interesting and wild but not stupidly inconsistent

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

​@@Jiub_SNMorrowind felt like you were learning the Gospel of an Alien Religion, Oblivion was written like they had an essay on "the hero's journey" open in another tab the entire time

[@lilqwertyy8461]

I thought they thought he was time traveling cause of his armour and magic?

[@banzaiperson]

I like to imagine that Pelinal was the first recorded instance of a player character in Elder Scrolls lore. He has all the signs.

[@guardianofsummerset451]

Probably what Kirkbride implied.

[@astuteanansi4935]

in an alternate timeline where TES was a Doomlike FPS

[@magnusthered9635]

@@astuteanansi4935A fantasy doom-like elder scrolls game with Pelinal fighting elves and different types of Daedra, undead. All that would be a great spinoff game if it sticks to what we know with the lore. The glory kills would be perfect!

[@r0de]

Considering there's a non-zero chance that all the player characters from the Elder Scrolls are Shezarrines, I would argue there's a good chance Pelinal is in that same camp lol

[@thejuggernautofspades9453]

Shows up, wrecks shit, leaves Sounds bout right

[@HotheadLad]

Nords: “Eeeh elves are kinda dumb.” Pelinal Whitestrake: “Kill elves, roundhouse kick an elf, kill elf babies, burn elf villages, hang elves from their stupid long hair, use magic to resurrect elves to kill them again, upper cut the king of the elves.”

[@thehermitman822]

YES. RAISE THEM SO WE MAY RAIZE THEM AGAIN.

[@coolchrisable]

Nords: hold on let him cook

[@PSNSMANIACALMIND1st]

So sad that searching "Total Mer Death" didn't lead to this video existing

[@bren97122]

Slice Mer in half with Goldbrand. Trap Mer in Oblivion. Report Mer to the Ideal Masters. Stomp Mer skulls with Ebony boots. Toss Mer into Red Mountain. Urinate into a Mer’s magicka potion. Vaporize Mer with destruction magic.

[@antthefool7637]

Judo throw elves into a wood chipper

[@JinzoTK]

There was a time Pelinal didn't hate Elves. When he didn't know they existed.

[@synergy8879]

which was about 30 seconds after his creation

[@JM-mh1pp]

Nah, I think that before he knew they existed he already hated them as a concept "Hey, if such and such thing existed I surely would have hate it!"

[@Xbalanque84]

​@@JM-mh1pp Assuming you buy the theory he's a son of Lorkhan, then yeah, it makes total sense.

[@imperialguardproductions]

I love that at least 40% of the lore of Tamriel consists of elf genecide.

[@berndberndsen5680]

And I hate that they somehow still end up on top in the 4th era.

[@totower9597]

As a elf lover I'm quite sad about it... kinda makes you think if elves are really the bad guys 😂

[@darthrevan4933]

And another 40% is reasons for said knife ears getting murderd

[@imperialguardproductions]

@totower9597 I mean.... they kinda are though...

[@ArthurD]

Not enough

[@lt_hammerfist5532]

Imagine if the Nords gave Pelinal the axe of racism that Ysgramor cried into existence with his manly tears of ebony. God ES lore is fucking wild.

[@Galimeer5]

Pelinal: "Nah, you need it more than I do"

[@Qmarexx]

Axe of racism 💀💀💀

[@runtergerutscht4401]

​@@Qmarexxwhat else are you gonna call it, the axe deals bonus damage to elves for no tangible reason. It's not magical, it's just fueled by the power of racism and possibly the very concept of genocide.

[@VarangianGuard13]

"Behold, Ysgramor, the axe of warcrimes!" Ysgramor: "We're calling it Wuuthrad, now?"

[@420mralucard]

@@VarangianGuard13 Ysgramor: "But Wuuthrad is just the Atmoran word for War Crimes."

[@Kill3rballoon]

I always liked how Whitestrake was essentially the protagonist from another Elder Scrolls game that was never made. Sure that game was more like Doom, but still.

[@basedcringechad5640]

A Heretic/Hexen TC covering Pelinal's murder campaigns would go hard

[@chesterstevens8870]

I mean; Microsoft owns Bethesda and the rights to Doom, so there's no reason that game can't eventually exist.

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

Never made? Haven’t made yet. They created the modern doom games, they have the tech they can make it now glory kills and all.

[@georgeoldsterd8994]

@@basedcringechad5640 make it happen!

[@CainTheMain]

It can happen. The end of Nirn. The Kalpa ending. The Thalmor trying to influence the natural order. A great cleansing is needed. Activate...the Crusader. "RIP AND TEAR UNTIL THE ELVES ARE DEAD! REEEEEMAAAAAAAN!!!"

[@HyakuSh1ki]

Pelinal is such "morrowind like" lore that appeared in oblivion and I love it

[@CyberController-]

Pretty sure he was a Kirkbride creation.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

​@@CyberController-yep he was brought back for the DLC and he brought his wacky lore with it and it's amazing

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Morrowind? MORROWIND? THERE'S ELVES IN MORROWIND

[@GimmeSkooma]

​@@aprinnyonbreak1290 This does not honor the Sixth House, and the tribe unmourned.

[@anettera3460]

kirkbride my beloved

[@imperialfist2304]

Man, Pelinal sure killed a lot of elves huh? One could even call him a, mer-durer?

[@hoshi314]

Ba dum tss

[@Muljinn]

Take your filthy up vote and get out…

[@chesterstevens8870]

Boo this man!

[@gsgaming6976]

*cue Deathklok guitar riffs* Mer-maim-er Mer-maim-er

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

Good one, reminds me of the time my squad massacred an entire of Exodite Eldar. Good times.

[@johngavin3180]

Random scribe writing about Pelinal: "So how does it feel to take a life of another sentient being?" Pelinal "Only good elf is a dead elf" Whitestrake: "Don't know, I've only killed elves."

[@nerfer200]

Pelinal was once asked how it felt to kill a man. Pelinal replied: "I wouldn't know, I've only killed Elves."

[@dt_grey4521]

"P-Pelinal! You massacred those elven families!" "Families? I prefer the term 'Infestation."

[@hellzer6633]

"Also 'massacred' is the wrong term, I EXTERMINATED THEM!"

[@theonewhouploadsnothing1704]

I’m stealing this lmao

[@somerandomschmuck2547]

This statement takes on a somewhat amusing level of accuracy when you think of Pelinal as an incarnation of Lorkhan, he made the world for humanity, the races of Mer, especially Daedra worshiping Mer, have no place in his design, at least not as mankind’s masters. He might have very well seen them as invasive pest infesting the world he made.

[@andrewmeyer3599]

"P-Pelinal! You killed an entire town of Elves!" "Yes. Tis a good start"

[@drgojira6044]

Ayleid's: "We are at war!" Pelinal: " This is not war, this is pest control."

[@ASNS117Zero]

"Imagine Achilles screaming George Washington's name at the battle of Troy." I fucking choked on my coffee. Good fucking shit.

[@kw8295]

same lmao someone shouts that name and literally everyone including allies on the battlefield pauses for a few seconds and someone goes "Who dafuq is that?! Wha?"

[@ArthurD]

Well, if he meant Achilles Davenport, then it becomes less weird. But still weird.

[@christhethinker6791]

@@ArthurD Why is Achilles Davenport at the battle of troy

[@christianclyne3851]

@@christhethinker6791hey, dudes old. Who are we to say he wasn’t there 😂

[@Tsuneo625]

I too was drinking coffee at this moment, however I only frowned on confusion. I was entertained.

[@MrDarthtelos]

When asked how he could kill innocent women and children so easily Pelinal spake thus, "Tis easy, thou need only lead thy shot less so."

[@LordIsrafel]

"The mace's weight does most of the work, honestly."

[@TheAgent0060]

Full Metal Jacket

[@PANDAProductions22]

@@TheAgent0060 Full Metal jacket actually took that quote from a real interview during Vietnam.

[@GrandMarshalGarithos]

You just need spare magicka potions.

[@dannykeuerleber7419]

What's the first thing you feel when you kill an elven civilian? The mace stop.

[@noksugen7166]

"The dream no longer needed the dreamer." He was entering cutscenes.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

I honestly sat here and thought about the history of literally every race of Mer in the Elder Scrolls, thinking surely there was at least _one_ that didn't directly fuck over Mankind as a whole in some way. Nope. They all did. Literally every single one. Perhaps not physically on a literal basis between an Elf and a Human standing a few feet apart, but there has been at least a single instance among every Elven race where something they did with full intention of doing in turn was either definitely catastrophic or potentially catastrophic for Humanity as a whole. _Even the Redguards_ , who aren't even technically from the same "universe" were fucked over by Multiverse Elves. I often wondered precisely how Pelinal Whitestrake could have such unrelenting, merciless, absolute hatred with extreme prejudice towards Elves - until I finally digested enough lore over a decade and realized that Pelinal was not only absolutely right and justified...he unfortunately didn't and _couldn't_ do enough.

[@Berlinbower]

Thats interesting. Whitestrake reminds me a great deal of talion from shadow of mordor and shadow of war. Trying to genocide the evil race out of the world, but being unable to do so

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

What about the Chimer/Dunmer?

[@kristofevarsson6903]

@@acceptablecasualty5319 The Chimer allied with Falmer who were retreating from Atmoran advances during their crusade in revenge for the Night of Tears at Saarthal. It was a purely self-serving alliance meant to keep the Atmorans from reaching deeper into Morrowind than just the disputed northwest, but they still went right ahead and joined the enemy of the humans despite not having a stake in that war.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

@@acceptablecasualty5319 Also the Morag Tong, who at the time were _only Dunmer,_ still assassinated the Emperor of Cyrodiil which allowed the Akaviri Potentate to rule. So both iterations of their race, Chimer and Dunmer, fucked humanity over.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

@@kristofevarsson6903 Ah. I was more thinking "throwing out the nords" and "slavery" but eh

[@the12thghostface13]

"Oh boy, this one sure enjoys being a Khajiit living peacefully in 1st Era Tamriel 🐱." "Hmm, who is this white-clad yet red-stained stranger rapidly approaching our village?"

[@dt_grey4521]

"Not-Mer added to database"

[@Gala-yp8nx]

I’d recommend running away but what would be the point.

[@rokva5771]

Did he at least apologize for murderizing all those cat people?

[@olorinmagus4479]

@@rokva5771 of course not, there was still a slight chance that they might have simply been very mutated elves. They’re lucky he didn’t kill them all just to be sure

[@cnut7383]

@@olorinmagus4479 I like it. More evidence that khajiit are derived bosmer

[@Predator20357]

“The only mistake I made was not stopping until all the high knife ears were dead”-Pelinal in the after life.

[@justicartiberius8782]

Well, he has a point. When you look at it, almost all world catastrophes are created by elves. The oblivion crysis, mannimarco, the enslavement of humans, now the thalmor and their slaughter of Talos-worshippers .... and many more i forgot to mention ... i kind of understand why humans hate the elves.

[@Predator20357]

@@justicartiberius8782 In other lore, he would be seen as a Genocidal Racist. For Skyrim, he’s the B.J. Blascowitz, Nazi Slayer.

[@justicartiberius8782]

@@Predator20357 As a german that hits different ... but yes, you are right xD

[@Predator20357]

@@justicartiberius8782 Oooof, XD

[@King.Leonidas]

​@@Predator20357Nahh hes The Austrian painter

[@Lordmun445]

It’s amazing that in elder scrolls, the invention of writing was created to pass down the best ways to kill elves by yisgramor who then went on to make an elf killing axe out of pure distilled racism

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

Writing for nords not writing itself.

[@joshuakim5240]

Gotta love how the origin of Tamriel itself is literally just a product of racism creating more racism. Racist snow elves genocided the first human Atmorans over a ball, causing the sole survivor to become so racist out of hatred that he shed tears of crystallized racism that he forged into a racist axe to then enact racism-fueled revenge against those elf racist, creating a culture of racism that lasts to this very day.

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

By the nine divines, I love the nords. the Cyrodillians are chumps by cpmparison.

[@B31NG]

@@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606both are n’wah tho

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

@@B31NG Knife-ear Scum.

[@Italiangentleman2394]

Elves: *existing* Pelinal: absolutely not

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

Pelinal coming from a future where he already won makes sense. He went back in time to kill more elves.

[@joshuaarnett762]

Pelinal standing on a colossal hill made of the corpses of every single remaining elf in his time. "Well. There's only one thing to do now that I've driven the elves to extinction." Opens a time portal "Try to do it faster this time."

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

@@joshuaarnett762 *SHITASS THEME INTENSIFIES*

[@MrJinglejanglejingle]

@@joshuaarnett762 Elf Extinction Speedrun, Any%

[@joshuaarnett762]

@@MrJinglejanglejingle unsurprisingly, the top 10 are all Pelinal.

[@spartanonxy]

I like to think that the game timeline is the only one he didn't manage to purge. And he is trying to get back into the world but all the elf gods from all the other timelines are running defense. Because he is just that much of a hater that even one timeline of knife ears is to many. Half of the scrolls are probably just ways he has dealt with elves.

[@igncom1]

My favourite explanation for him is that Pelinal is the player character for an elder scrolls game we haven't yet gotten to play. He was even using mods to turn him into a cyborg in a fantasy game!

[@jumpinghunter9152]

There's actually one detail in the Song of Pelinal that looks kinda like a game mechanic of modern TES accessible for players. I like to imagine that "when he sensed the Akatosh was watching him he watched him back" is *exactly* what happens when we are skipping time by waiting in skyrim, because Pelinal was said to appear just standing still with head turned up into the sky, and when we wait in skyrim we kinda looks the same, just a man standing still and watching into the eyes of time itself.

[@asd3601]

@@jumpinghunter9152 T pose for dominance over the god of time

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@@jumpinghunter9152or in the case of the dragonborn it's just you staring into yourself and well your annoying

[@Agon1stt]

​@@jumpinghunter9152wow thats is sooo good

[@I-HAVE-A-BOMB]

STOP WITH THE CYBORG LIES. Briar hearts aren't cyborgs. Pelinal isn't a cyborg.

[@casacara]

“Have you heard of the high elves?” gonna hit different when he comes back for the Thalmor

[@IAmTheStig32]

"Those High Elves aren't a myth. *But I will make them one*."

[@420mralucard]

Oh the Thalmor and the Summerset Isles would be first on his list.

[@rileyblack7160]

"Your children will not have heard of the High Elves"

[@Riggy1991]

you forgot to mention that in his rage of his lover being killed Pelinal swung his sword so hard it knocked Nirn slightly off of its axis and made the year two weeks shorter

[@Captain_Titus3867]

Bruh why Elder scrolls lore go so hard?!

[@Riggy1991]

@@Captain_Titus3867 because Pelinal is the reincarnation of the dude who made the world

[@samfire3067]

When You are so pissed that your sword don't Just cut The Wind but time to.

[@pepsi4798]

@@Captain_Titus3867 yeah, no doubt those guys got power of early DBZ era

[@HappyBuffalo347]

​@@Riggy1991You're gunna get smothered by moths in your sleep if you keep talking like that

[@boomxchikn7556]

Im convinced that Pelinal took an elf name just to piss them off even more. His rage knows no bounds

[@martongergely757]

Rebellion leaders: we can't just storm the white gold tower, thats suicide! Pelinal Whitestrake: hold my beer

[@raindroproses1107]

Pelinal, dying: yeah, and it was worth it.

[@joshuaarnett762]

The dummy Pelinal he quickly created out of straw, discarded armor bits, and elf chunks collapses. Pelinal didn't care enough to stay and hear their whole arguments, he was in the same hemisphere as an elf after all, and had better things to do.

[@martongergely757]

@@joshuaarnett762 if this is actually real than its one of the biggest flexes he did 💀

[@joshuaarnett762]

@@martongergely757 nah, that's just a joke I'm making. He did listen, but he thought planning out the attack was cowardly, so he went in on his own when everyone was asleep (maybe, he didn't really hide his goal to go in, but his dying scream did wake everyone up, so they were asleep) and just slaughtered his way to Umaril.

[@NinjaMaster23145]

Praise be to Pelinal! The Star Made Knight! The Divine Crusader! He whose right hand carried a mighty sword that he may strike down the Ayleid slave lords where they stand! He whose left hand carried a great mace that he may collapse their white gold towers soaked in human blood and leave them as not but rubble! He who carried a killing light that burns away all Daedric corruption! He who worse the armor of gods that he might protect us from the wrath of the elven flesh tyrants! He whose chest was a gaping hole for his love for us was so great he could make no room for anything else! Praise to Pelinal! Bane of the elves! Champion of Mankind!

[@speetza6265]

And many many more…?

[@loowick4074]

Mildly annoyed dusty bone rattling noises of contempt

[@d.n5287]

"Repub if hate elves" Pelinal would get banned from the discord server for spam.

[@PelinalWhitestrake36]

Can Confirm; Discord servers are owned by the Thalmods.

[@LordThatch]

@@PelinalWhitestrake36this cannot be so

[@road-eo6911]

He would CHIM and make the discord server a forever "repub if hate elves"

[@mikecampos1193]

​@@PelinalWhitestrake36 you are the truest hero the redguards the Nords and if we can get the Imperials you need to lead them to a glorious crusade brother.

[@michelveilleux123]

Let's be honest. He'd make multiple accounts just to spam the button. 😅

[@hailstorm9735]

Pelinal "Its not a warcrime if its the first time." Whitestrake

[@John.McMillan]

Pelinal "It's not a war crime if you kill everyone who could prosecute you" Whitestrake

[@fried0nion503]

@@John.McMillan Pelinal "crimes against humanity do not apply" Whitestrake

[@timesthree5757]

Or the 2nd time, 3rd, 4th, ect ect

[@NEEDbacon]

Pelinal "Geneva Convention Inventor" Whitestrake

[@Sarindanvelor]

"crimes against humanity only applies to humans"-Pelinal probably

[@thebrotacogamer2944]

"There was this one time he accidentally killed a bunch of Khajit, and that was funny AF" - Dagoth Ur, probably

[@devilord3271]

My favorite bit of TES lore is that there used to be way more gods, but after Mundus was created, they all thought that shit was lame so they up and left, tearing holes in reality on their way out and creating stars

[@haoukkax8896]

Mundus...mundane Makes sense.

[@isaacfransonfilm2139]

In your own words. "He had a KD ratio that would make a nuclear strike jelious"

[@J_L367]

He is the nuke

[@troyharrison9923]

"Star Made Knight" is likely a reference to the in-universe book "Where were you when the dragon broke?" which traces the history of Dragon Breaks. One account during one of the very first Breaks claims that the 8 stars that represented the 8 Divines (Talos was not there yet) were seen falling from the sky. Since a Dragon Break is defined as whenever time in the Elder Scrolls becomes non-linear, Pelinal's name in Elvish likely refers to his origins being from the future. It could also be a reference to his somewhat divine nature as a Shezzarine. Regardless, it is cool because in cultural context his name literally means Time Travelling Knight.

[@axelord4ever]

Plus the whole firmament LSD snuff going on at the interstice of the spheres. The 'moons' of Nirn are only the most obvious weirdness that can be seen in the sky. The interstice between Mundus and the mindfuck beyond is thin indeed.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

​@@axelord4everHow did Vivec describe it? "The Temporary House"?

[@KK-gz5cq]

Pancreas full on entering his elf hater arc, love to see it, we'll have to remove a few grudges on the account of this W

[@kieranwalsh2058]

Elder Scrolls elves are a whole other ballpark. Coming from an elf lover, the Thalmor can burn

[@Predator20357]

More like Pancreas is showing that he doesn’t love all the elves

[@dt_grey4521]

​@@chillyavian7718Mer are elves, tall, skilled with magic, pointy ears... They're *elves*

[@curtiswong7280]

@@kieranwalsh2058 It's not like they're all bad though, the various races of mer in the Elder Scrolls helped defeat many daedric or other invasions and contributed immensely to the culture and society of Tamriel.

[@aceghost1074]

Aye, may his descendants remember this wrong righted.

[@lordfriedrick7911]

Many elves were harmed in the making of this video *GOOD.*

[@TheOneWhoBugs]

"Racism was never an answer. It's question, and the answer is *yes*". - Pelinal Whitstrake.

[@TheAsylumCat]

I like to imagine that Pelinal would get so angry, he'd approach something akin to Chim. Breaking reality from pure spite alone.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

Exactly what happened. Hos rage manifested as a will so powerful it was able to wrest control of reality away from the godhead, with only the divines being able to put him back in the dream.

[@roboute-Terra]

Pelinal "if the ears aren't round put them in the ground" Whitestrake.

[@Agon1stt]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@rwagingsloth9528]

"do you hate elves" this reminds me of a possible quote from an orc in LotR shadow of Mordor. "now, Why would a gondorian come here and try to murder ALL, the orcs. maybe you have a problem with one orc, maybe a hundred! but a-all~ of us? maybe the problem is with you." I felt VERY called out by the orc and stopped playing for the day after that one.

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

See, what concerned me is that an orc kept following me around the area and flirting with me

[@joshuakim5240]

@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen I like to imagine that orc followed around Talion in a weird attempt to befriend him and show him that not all orcs should be killed...but was so uncharismatic that he accidentally pissed Talion off enough to decide that he did indeed want to kill all orcs.

[@Pixel22-fs3tt]

I only like a few kind of elves. The ones in the Zelda series (yes I know they're called humans and are basically humans but with pointy ears but I don't care. They are elves!) And the ones from Middle Earth

[@malaficus]

Yes. Why would talion hate a race that exist purly to kill and torture his people. Also that orc suffering many shamings. Gotta set examples to my troops what happends if you cross me.

[@terminator572]

Why would you feel called out by the infestation you are there to destroy

[@spongeyspikes09]

Imagine put Pelinal in Commorragh, give him all the weapons your standard Space Marine, and Imperial Guardsman has and watch him do his thing

[@WitchHunterSiegfried]

Sidenote about the Khajiit thing, There's a type of Khajiit who look VERY similar to Mer (these were the ones we saw in Arena and Daggerfall) so that's probably what he bumped into.

[@zezia333]

Remember Aedric Ayleids openly sided with the human rebellion. Their aid was critical in securing victory. Of course when the Alessian Order came around these elves were prosecuted and their settlements sacked. It reached to the point that any surviving Ayleids were driven out but not in enough numbers and the Ayleids would soon become extinct.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Except for those that fled towards argonia and valenwood. Also during the 3rd Era it is believed that there were some wild elves left in northeastern cyrodiil

[@zezia333]

@Just_Addd_Water_to_your_ramen those that left were not enough to maintain their culture. The Alessian Order are still responsible for the extinction of Ayleids

[@名無し-q6g]

memechildren here don't really care about the actual lore, so don't bother

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

@@名無し-q6g ?

[@名無し-q6g]

@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen meant the comment section in general, not the replies to this post. obviously

[@nananamamana3591]

Here's a wild idea... Ysgramor gets a vision of the future. He sess Pelinal doing his thing. Ysgramor becomes Pelinal's first fanboy, and thus kicks off the long and proud history of Merstinction.

[@KahavaveCAPIPI]

According to legend Pelinal had been wandering Tamriel for centuries, founding kingdoms, ruling them for a time, then leaving presumably when all the Elves were dead or in hiding. I don't buy that he conquered ALL of Tamriel piecemeal since the Altmer and Bosmer wouldn't have left (and the Chimer didn't have the Tribunal yet so probably would have been willing to up sticks if it really came down to it) so he would have stuck around till they were all dead, but he probably had a hand in any area that wasn't ruled by Elves.

[@rexrex429]

I believe it was hinted that Pelinal was one of Ysgramor's 500 companions.

[@kevind3974]

It’s also hinted at that he jumps thru time so one version of him might be older but he’s actually much younger timeline wise. He’s like the vestige with his ability to jump points in time but with much less of a restriction on how far back or forward he can go (vestige is restricted to only the three banners war). Also you can actually remember him so that’s a plus for pelinel as well

[@Palemagpie]

Wait a second .... Elven-Ass name, Advanced Technology, Plate armor, Capable of unspeakable cruelty against elves, Probably some time/space fuckery, Hates gods with passion, That....thats a Dwemer, you're describing a Dwemer.

[@basocheir]

you know what? With Kagrenac had some relation with heart of Lorkhan this is within realm of possibility heck, it's Elder Scrolls, it is canon, if it's not, call it dragonbreak, idc

[@Rebellions]

Wait so Whitestrake is just the result of Altmer enabling "A grudge too far" as their endgame crisis?

[@John.McMillan]

That even covers the armour and the potential of him literally being a living automaton. And the dislike of the gods. Fuck me, he might have been a Dwemer.

[@johnjohnson9073]

So at the end of the day he really is the pinnacle of dwarf-kind

[@davisdf3064]

@@johnjohnson9073 Literally, he really was the tallest of them all!

[@chrisjackson1215]

I can't be the only one that wants a doom-style game as Pelinal.

[@sponge5196]

You are not the only one, brother.

[@kyrasoze516]

Rip and tear!

[@ProcyonDei]

A Warhammer 40k character that accidentally got teleported into TES....

[@00persia]

Probably one of the two lost primarchs lol

[@ivanrado3430]

​@00persia we don't talk about those

[@uberfeel]

"War crimes? No, i am just eradicating enemys future potential recruits" - Pelinal Whitestrake

[@feihceht656]

"Not going too much into what the void means in The Elder Scrolls" *shows a statue of Sithis in the background* I see what's going on here

[@feihceht656]

Showing the wheel when discussing the Dreamer? Oh yeah, this guy CHIMs

[@irtazaazam2573]

Fun fact, 7:00, there was a general/warrior irl that did this in every battle he had against the Persians. He'd challenge the Persian general to a duel before the battle, kill him, and then wipe out the Persians with his army. He also did the same to the Eastern Roman empire many times. Ironically, that part is realistic. Plus not accepting the duel would end up causing the Elves to lose faith in their general.

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

Chad put his own life on the line repeatedly to try to spare his own men from battle too. They must have been incredibly dedicated when they did fight

[@ArawnOfAnnwn]

Who is this?

[@akmalrafiaa4772]

​@@ArawnOfAnnwn I'm guessing Khalid ibn Al-Walid

[@irtazaazam2573]

@@akmalrafiaa4772 correct

[@irtazaazam2573]

@@ArawnOfAnnwn Khalid ibn al Walid

[@martenkahr3365]

7:10 I always figured the Reman Cyrodiil thing indicated some kind of stable time loop. Whitestrake went back because he (or whoever sent him back) knew from the historical record that Whitestrake had been someone from the future and would have to be sent back.

[@sarnakjahar3643]

With Pelinal being a time traveling super cyborg, you missed an "I have no mouth and I must scream" reference chance. Something to the effect of: "There are seven-million-million-million particles in the body of a man. If the word "hate" was inscribed on every single one of them, it would not even represent one one millionth of one millionth of a percent of the hate Pelinal Whitestrake felt for the elves."

[@radicallarry7044]

This man sure looks like a fine gentleman I wonder what he is known for?

[@lawindacera7219]

His immense love for cats, I heard

[@_Morph1ne_]

Being based

[@slayeroffurries1115]

@@_Morph1ne_ beat me to it

[@KaiserAfini]

So Pelinal is from lore created by Michael Kirkbride ? That explains why his lore is such a trip, that level of confusingly fascinating lore is his signature style.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Yep it's also not completely clear there is a totally potential idea that alot of pelinals lore is propaganda like him calling the name reman the book we find that in was suspiciously made in the second era and could have just have been a historic revision to validate reman to be emperor. Same as the cyborg from the future.

[@ElSirRexy]

Pretty sure kirkbride took a lot of drugs while writing

[@InquisitorThomas]

@@ElSirRexy I’m pretty sure Kirkbride is never not on drugs.

[@pheonixshaman]

​@@ElSirRexy sounds like a pretty big pro drugs argument

[@Unidentified_Entity6]

@@ElSirRexy thats a myth

[@chaosspartan4417]

Everyone watching Pelinal eat elven neck vains unphased as this point: "Who the hell is Reman?"

[@bcfb21]

“The doom guy of elder scrolls” it’s so accurate it hurts.

[@e_bod88]

13:35 So basically, “Like, extremely, earth-shatteringly, unreasonably fuck-ass mad.” -The Emperor

[@arushnakhre9600]

My favorite theory about pelinal is that he's actually a shard of akatosh but one thats been fused with a bit of lorkhan. During the end of the alessian empire a group called the marukhati selective somehow "broke" akatosh to get rid of his elven features (since he was originally the god king of the elves) in order to make him more pro-human. By removing the elven parts of him they essentially drove akatosh "mad" and created a bunch of different identities for the deity. One shard that broke off may have be pelinal which explains why he's Morihaus' uncle, akatosh being a peer of kynareth, how he knew who Reman was because he has a non-linear concept of time and why he hated being called a shezzarine since lorkhan is still the mortal enemy of akatosh. Just thought I'd throw that theory in there since I'm not the biggest fan of the cyborg one.

[@ShadowNetWeaver1]

Oh wow, that's actually a really good one that I'd never heard before!

[@SizzleCorndog]

This theory slaps, I always found the cyborg theory to be kinda weak and unimaginative. Like people will talk about his advanced armor, flaming hands, and not having a heart, but we know he's divine so why should he have to play by human biology and the normal rules of magic.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

...dragon cyborg This means when the Elder Scrolls Whitestrake comes out in 2043, you should absolutely make the Whitestrake an Argonian

[@durshurrikun150]

You should call Lorkhan Shezzar if you are calling Auriel Akatosh

[@victord4662]

"he hated being called a shezzarine since lorkhan is still the mortal enemy of akatosh" This statement seems contradictory to what is written in the Songs of Pelinal. I would take into consideration the following quotes: "[And after] the first Pogrom, which consolidated the northern holdings for the men-of-'kreath, he stood with white hair gone brown with elfblood at the Bridge of Heldon, where Perrif's falconers had sent for the Nords, and they, looking at him, said that Shor had returned, but he spat at their feet for profaning that name"; "[And it is] said that he emerged into the world like a Padomaic, that is, borne by Sithis and all the forces of change therein. Still others, like Fifd of New Teed, say that beneath the Pelinal's star-armor was a chest that gaped open to show no heart, only a red rage shaped diamond-fashion, singing like a mindless dragon, and that this was proof that he was a myth-echo, and that where he trod were shapes of the first urging. Pelinal cared for none of this and killed any who would speak god-logic, except for fair Perrif, who he said, "enacts, rather than talks, as language without exertion is dead witness." When those soldiers who heard him say this stared blankly, he laughed and swung his sword, running into the rain of Kyne to slaughter their Ayleid captives, screaming, "O Aka, for our shared madness I do this! I watch you watching me watching back! Umaril dares call us out, for that is how we made him!"; "It is famous, though, that the two talked of each other as family, with Morihaus as the lesser, and that Pelinal loved him and called him nephew, but these could be merely the fancies of immortals." Those indicate to me the following things: - He has reverence or at the very least respect for Shor/Shezarr/Lorkhan ("he spat at their feet for profaning that name") - He doesn't like being compared to divinity or any talk concerning his nature because "language without exertion is dead witness". I am still unsure how I should interpret this. - He is Morihaus' cousin therefore Kyne's brother - He has connections to both Lorkhan and Akatosh: "he emerged into the world like a Padomaic, that is, borne by Sithis and all the forces of change therein" (connection to Lorkhan) and "a chest that gaped open to show no heart, only a red rage shaped diamond-fashion, singing like a mindless dragon, and that this was proof that he was a myth-echo... O Aka, for our shared madness I do this... for that is how we made him!" (connection to Akatosh or the Aka oversoul). I am of the opinion that Akatosh and Lorkhan are connected in their being (an expression that I have seen often used to compare them is "two sides of the same coin") and this dual nature can be seen at multiple points in the lore: the Last Dragonborn, the Amulet of Kings (which is both Lorkhan's heart blood and the physical manifestation of Alessia's covenant with Akatosh, or possibly both of their blood with Lorkhan's first and then Akatosh's which fused with it), and even Nirn itself which embodies both stasis and change (their two natures), the Arena and anchor point at the centre for all of creation just as White-Gold is to the Wheel which surrounds it, with its eight spokes as the Aedra and sixteen voids between them as the Daedra. As a sidenote, eight is a number that recurs a lot in the lore: the eight Divines plus the Missing Sibling, the eight towers of Creation and of the spokes of the Wheel, the eight islands of the Imperial City, the eight time eight Exarchs at Convention, the eight components of the Staff of Towers used by the Marukhati Selective when they started the Middle Dawn and broke Akatosh, Pelinal cut into eight pieces. So basically I would say that Pelinal hates being called a Shezzarine not because Lorkhan is the mortal enemy of Akatosh but because he hates god-logic in general and that he is both a Shezzarine and also a brother to Akatosh who along with Auri-El, Alduin, Alkosh and others constitute the Aka oversoul (kind of like how Hjalti Early-Beard, Ysmir Wulfharth and Zurin Arctus form the Talos oversoul but much more complicated). There is also the following comment from a thread which I find really interesting: "Guys, I just realized something. Lorkhan and Akatosh are like oppesites, Akatosh being birthed from Anui-el and Anui-el being Birthed from Anu. Lorkhan was birthed by Sithis, who was birthed by Padomay. So, Akatosh and Lorkhan are like opposites, eternal enemies, but, events in history show that somehow they worked together at some points in history. One examaple is when Pelinal Whitestrake, a Shezzarine, cooperated with Alessia, a dragonborn blessedby Akatosh.There is also Wulfharth, who is said to be BOTH SHEZZARINE AND DRAGONBORN (btw wulfharth is baddas) Akatosh was "created" by slapping Auriel and Shor together during the first era. Eagle and snake make dragon. Talos was both Shezzarine and Dragonborn. The Last Dragonborn is both Shezzarine and Dragonborn. There are several instances of this. Because being Dragonborn is very similar to being Shezzarine. Akatosh is a very Man aligned deity for being a mer one don't you think? Well that's because Auriel is the mer time god, not Akatosh. Akatosh is the god of spacetime. Lorkhan (space) and Aka (time). Nice , Mer relish perfect order , Man relishes change ( thriil of conquest etc..) ANU/PADAMAY Ages of interbreeding & close habitation have muddled the origins of the Divines . The closer you get to the Dawn era the more specific the gods seem to be ( probably being the most in "preliterate" tribes.) I'm curious about what the Akiviri take on all of this is." This seems to align with Kirkbride's comments on the nature of the Ada as metaphysical concepts and laws of nature rather than individuals in the mortal sense. PS: This comment was initially meant to respond only to the "he hated being called a shezzarine since lorkhan is still the mortal enemy of akatosh" statement so apologies for making it so long and going on tangents :)

[@VallornDeathblade]

I imagine their first meeting goes something like: Pelinal comes into the throne room covered in the elf blood of half a province and Alessia basically creams herself on the spot.

[@ChristopherList-s2n]

"The guy who spawned all those ai voice memes"? Is this how you honor the Sixth House, and the tribe unmourned?

[@Shadethewolfy]

Come to me openly, and not by stealth.

[@lachlank.8270]

Moon and stars... you're an ARGONIAN? How could you come here unprepared?

[@dr.veronica6155]

One thing I would like to say that would suggest that Pelinal may have actually had a cyborg arm (probably magitech rather than purely mechanical, but who can say) and wasn't just using destruction magic is the fact that his arm isn't recorded as being able to emit a killing light. His arm was said to *be made of* a killing light.

[@rafaelcastor2089]

"You don't hate elves. Maybe you think you do, but you don't" Bold assumption there, mate.

[@HolyknightVader999]

By the way, the pesky Camoran family of Wood Elves who killed the human Emperor in the main Oblivion questline and tried to bring Mehrunes Dagon into the Nirn was probably some Ayleid remnant that Whitestrake and the other humans missed. Which means it's far more fun to put on the Crusader's armor and finish the job Pelinal and Alessia started.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

You mean those whatever Dawn Cultists?

[@HolyknightVader999]

@@acceptablecasualty5319 Their leaders, yes. The Mythic Dawn was led by the Camoran family. Technically Wood Elves, but they're descended from Ayleids.

[@TheMythMac]

With him being able to remove chucks of reality he must have have been absolutely cracked at tonal magic

[@Ruvaakdein]

Looks like unmaking parts of reality comes with being the reincarnation of the guy who made the world.

[@yigitorhan7654]

If i remember correctly, there was a bit about the Amulet of Kings strapped to his chest emmiting something akin to "the screams of a mad dragon" which might or might not be tonal magic associated with Akatosh.

[@TheMythMac]

@@yigitorhan7654 lofi thuum beats to murder and destroy elves too

[@dane1382]

deities in TES, particularly Lorkhan, do tend to be associated with potent tonal energies. it was the Lorkhan's heart, after all, that Kagrenac used to un-exist the Dwemer. since Pelinal is so closely associated with Lorkhan and Akatosh, who, as we all know, is the father of the Thu'um-wielding dragons, it's clear why Pelinal was able to accomplish such reality-bending feats.

[@dank_smirk2ndchannel200]

Fun fact: the Deathwatch were originally one of the missing Space Marine legions with their own geneseed. However when the 2nd and 11th Primarchs "went missing" the Deathwatch was remade into what it is in modern 40K. However, the missing Primarch and his chapter had left a psychic echo with the modern Deathwatch (much like the Black Rage with the Blood Angels), influencing their actions. The missing Primarch in question is actually *Pelinal Whitestrake,* for only he hates Eldar and all other knife-ears enough to be able to leave behind a psychic echo of pure, unremitting racism that invariably turns those in the Deathwatch into a fraction of the anti-Eldar racist that he was. Said echo was so racist that it managed to mutate over time to include all other Xenos as well. Some say it might even be developing into a minor Warp entity it's that racist.

[@pheonixshaman]

Sounds like a pretty based chad to me.

[@cthulhubecausewhynot1182]

Huh, looks like it made it into AoS as well and found a host in the Stalliarch Lords of the Ossiarch Bonereapers.

[@joshred1571]

Sounds like a tzeenitch plan. To create a god of racism out of the imperium and it’s greatest racist for its own amusement.

[@BlueSatoshi]

That's bullshit but I believe it.

[@henryheavy8044]

Bullshit

[@DeisFortuna]

As someone who usually *plays* an elf in these games, the Nights of the Nine quests were an absolute comedy hour.

[@gaming_darkhawk]

Pelinal : Rare elf species that hates elfs. Nice.

[@Corristo89]

Dropping Pelinal onto the Summerset Isles would be the Elder Scrolls version of "nuke it from orbit" or the Covenant glassing the entire planet out of annoyance.

[@jacobkean4868]

Here is a good way to erase Bretonia. Just tell Pelinal that they are elven servants

[@DoctorFail]

Pelinal being dropped in warhammer to kill the dark elves, ends up going after ulthuan and athel Loren too. Yes, this is the best crossover.

[@eneram8846]

I doubt it would work. He spared the non elven servants. I mean he is known for mistake massacres that stop halfway if he got the wrong race

[@hoshi314]

Khorne would blush, he would tell his bloodthirster to sit down and said "look at him go!"

[@dreamaboutcoffee4967]

"Why are you not more like that guy?"

[@eneram8846]

@@dreamaboutcoffee4967 especially to scarbrand and his cowardly little arse

[@DawgIdek]

I always interpreted the line of “A dream that no longer needs its dreamer” in reference to the entirety of the elderscrolls universe being a dream of the god head, and pelinal being part of that dream. When pelinal enters his madness state, he literally exist outside of the godhead but can still interact with it, like he, the dream, does not need the dreamer, the god head, to exist.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

That's what achieving CHIM is

[@user-dnf83n0s8sg9u]

Written by David Lynch

[@diamondmetal3062]

Going with the meta description of CHIM, what if he means that the dream that was him no longer needed HIM to dream it? What if it was a player?

[@I-HAVE-A-BOMB]

That is exactly what it feels like to PTSD freak out, you're just watching behind your own eyes what could be a dream or reality, sometimes it's even past events. That line hit me hard and put into words what I couldn't.

[@auraguard0212]

So Dagoth-Ur, Tiber Septim, and maybe Vivec?

[@LivelyGhost42]

The Pelinal animated opera is so good and needs to be seen by everyone who likes this

[@diegoolivares1081]

Every time I see an elf, my brain starts to count the number dead elf's killed by pelinal

[@korvincarry3268]

AllinAll did such a good job with it

[@carlodagunz]

Occam's Razor suggests that Pelinal got the name Pelinal because the Alessian slaves under the Ayleid empire would have known no other language but that of the elves. It was the elven slaves that so-named him.

[@Archie699]

God time traveling gay cyborg is wild

[@l0sts0ul89]

Whose also mega racist

[@denifnaf5874]

​@@l0sts0ul89in tamriel everyone is a racist

[@l0sts0ul89]

@@denifnaf5874 probably, I'm gonna say ay least 40%

[@Nervete]

My thoughts on Pelinal's whole dream with the dreamer thing is that it refers to him (potentially Lorkan, the embodiment of Nirn) who once dreamed Nirn and Tamriel into existance no longer having command of it, and that his rage is a similar loss of control.

[@DxSkeith]

The ATELF shot Pelinal's Dog for his illegal short barreled laser arm. That's why he went back in time

[@jtyranus]

That dog's name? Reman.

[@ZayneLion-xv3fe]

Yes

[@kabob0077]

I can't believe Elder Scrolls has the GCA and NFA...

[@Spec_tisum]

Pelinal "first historic account of a player character in nirns history." Whitestrake.

[@Omni-Man]

"But unlike Sanguinius, Pelinal finished the job." How...how could you?! 😭

[@unamericano]

Fun fact: Many Ayleid higher ups and nobles had torture sculptures with living human slaves as they viewed suffering as a form of art. They literally had a thing called "gut gardens" which are never fully described but have just enough description to make your imagination run wild. This is probably why so many Ayleids themselves were disgusted with the ones in charge and were one of the major factors in Alessia's successful rebellion.

[@Historyfrek4ever]

Yeah I don’t think Pelinal even stoped to plan when he saw a tower full of elves. Alessia and co. probably weren’t even surprised.

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

Pelinal Whitestrake: "There are one hundred thousand swords in Tamriel, if the word hate was carved into each nanometer of that one hundred thousand swords, it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for elvenkind in this single microsecond! HATE! HATE!" Random dude: ".....you need to chill down, man." Edit: spelling

[@jtyranus]

Moths swarm that man and suffocate him.

[@Alekx445]

Nice reference

[@MrFallenangel2012]

Pelinal: I AM CALM!!

[@acrustykrab]

AM!!

[@KaiHung-wv3ul]

@@Alekx445 Thanks.

[@serenapopowich8084]

Interestingly, khajiit are actually considered more elven (thanks to azura) then the bosmer as the wood elves are formed from primordial ooze and merely take the appearance of elves but aren't descendants of the elnofey, thus Pelinal wasn't exactly mistaken about the cat people...

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

I feel like, in another world, Pelinal and the Khajiit could have been friends. Just imagine him and some Khajiit kicking back some beers and Moon Sugar, as he hears about how the Khajiit have infiltrated and been puppeteering a society of elves for thousands of years because one of their trippy sub-breeds looks like a Wood Elf but is better in basically every single way, and they just play with Bosmer lives as a game between cats now.

[@serenapopowich8084]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 perhaps, although khajiit theology isn't very kind to Lorkhan so that might be problematic.

[@Shadethewolfy]

New crackpot theory: Azura created the Khajiit in an attempt to make a race that wouldn't spurn her love after the Chimer turned their back on her and incurred her wrath which turned them into Dunmer.

[@Shadethewolfy]

Lorkhaj is a noisy thief who stole Merrunz's yarnball. Nirn is that yarnball. Nirn is literally Merrunz's by right, but Greedy Alkosh does not appreciate this. He does not understand why Merrunz wants their yarnball. Alkosh is a meanie.@@serenapopowich8084

[@ericv738]

I thought the primordial ooze thing was just their own creation belief, not what actually happened (as in I think they are still descendants of the Aldmer)

[@entropic6439]

Coupling this video with "PELINAL (ANIMATED OPERA)" by allinall is a fantastic experience. I'm making an elf-slayer character in skyrim as I type this.

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

14:15 I'm imagining Pelinal flying through the skies of tamriel, lazering whole battlefields out of existence and diving down to blend whole armies on the "very fine" setting.

[@3dd656]

If I remember right, Dark Elves having three daedra as their patrons/primary gods they also view Lorkhan as a revered figure/4th patron and consider CHIM as Lorkhans gift or attempt to give mortals a chance to achieve what he and all the other aedra, daedra, and those before them have. Which I think fits well with that third idea.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Yeah there's a theory out there that boethiah was Shors lover or mistress or admirer at one point

[@road-eo6911]

​@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen So you're telling me, the whole Umaril vs Pelinal fight was a huge after divorce fight?!

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

@Road-eo no? Umaril is not in anyway related to meridia

[@malvatoss5840]

I’m glad to see all elf haters have come together at last. Greetings fellow men of culture.

[@joekaz5198]

Pelinal's story is akin to those of Beowulf and Gilgamesh and countless other larger than life heroic characters in real world lore.

[@miguelruiz4613]

It's more like chu culain to be fair

[@AremStefaniaK]

like Trump or Putin?

[@invictvsreinhardtgermanicv9321]

Can't hate something that doesn't exist -Pelinal Whitestrake

[@logandaley1544]

My first time revisiting Oblivion in years was to complete the Kinghts of the Nine DLC quest line about Pelinal. It was a great experience.