Andrew Scheps - Pensado's Place

Andrew Scheps (Red Hot Chili Peppers, Adele, Metallica, Jay Z) returns to catch up with Dave and Herb on the 218th episode of Pensado's Place.
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[@senadinfaze]

....."The hardest thing in the world is not to get a good sound, but to know what a good sound is!"... Well said, Dave!

[@perrypelican9476]

Scheps is so open and honest. It's a pleasure listening to him because there is no bull and ego.

[@pibayprodgineer5695]

Agreed! He really is a pleasure to hear in and interview.

[@freddy7171]

The most friendly and modest engineer out there. Even the bit where he said he was surprised that Waves wanted to do a plugin with him just shows you how modest he is. Awesome.

[@GARZA_ICMG]

"Fat and Wide, sounds like the magazine you had at your place the other day" LOLOL

[@thekaratesuit]

13:20 Andrew Schepps bit starts

[@morganwright1131]

thnk u

[@BoilingJD]

Yes, do a Mix-Off!!! Tow world-class engineers mixing one song head-to-head !!

[@insidemusician]

BoilingJD THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!

[@delirium6109]

Really love listening to Andrew when interviewed by competent peers. Intelligent answers to dumb questions is pretty interesting.....but nothing like intelligent answers to intelligent questions. Great stuff.

[@kaiyuVFX]

man this guy just knows audio, very insightful interview. hes becoming one of my favs really fast.

[@QCnicdem]

This guys a pure genius

[@kelvynification]

It really seems like Andrew Scheps is so in the moment and spontaneous in the way he mixes. A natural talent that has a great philosophy, a down to earth , uncomplicated way of doing things. Man! He mixed ‘Ride’ Fantastic job, my favorite Del Rey song. Color me impressed:))) Also... Andrew is a technician who understands the technology so his take on ad/da has its merits.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

"It was all .bip." Experienced: *HAAHAAHAAHAAHA* Intermediates: "Heh... There's something funny about that." Beginners: "...Wut?..."

[@austinlevine7038]

Dave and Andrew's banter was great when discussing A/D conversion. Pretty much the 2 best guys in the game having an awesome conversation.

[@BenJ.G]

The man is a genius! Thanks to all of you for giving away some of your knowledge and career experiences. It can be much more valuable than any gear suggestion or technique.

[@JakeSharpProfoundStudio]

Love Andrew Scheps AND Pensado's Place! Thanks soo much I knew this one was coming!

[@kristofferhogberg8011]

This was such a great episode, so very helpful!

[@abrahamchapman3332]

Herb. Love what you are doing. Making music what music is really about. Making the world a better place. Thank you.

[@lextildeath]

Dude, this ITL was simply amazing. I didn't realize that stereo modulation could be so transparent. I can't believe that I didn't think of this. I LOVE you, Dave!

[@matrixate]

35:43 - Holy moly. I had no idea. Wow. I am so glad to hear him confirm his theory on the conversion. I totally agree.

[@GreenJake33]

TheChosenOne such cool news

[@jimdough2018]

...you do realize that the tracks he works with have all been recorded through hi-end boutique hardware and his master probably run through another batch of hi-end boutique hardware? I strongly believe mixing is moving ITB now, though. Mastering without hardware? Not gonna happen anytime soon.

[@eggaiug]

Jim Dough Even people like Sylvia Massy that mix in a console says the most important stuff is just having nice mics and PAs

[@Zisch2]

He is great and a great teacher as well. One little suggestion: it would be great if you could list the mentioned albums in the description so it would be fast and easy to know what is talked about.

[@committments]

Awesome show! Great episode! Keep inspiring cause you both are amazing and i wish you years of success! God Bless!

[@DNAMediaGroupSarnia]

DNA Media LOVES Pensado's Place. I think Andrew is one of the coolest guys in the industry. Thank you so much!

[@keithandes1]

Love Andrew Scheps!! Great show guys!!

[@bahanijeannot3572]

I love this place

[@MegaTreeBark]

These episodes with the legends on them are so different than the currently popular fellows that have been popping up on the recent shows. At least by my eye/ear

[@beeftheheat]

Yee Hah! You guys have class and style. Not to mention tons of know-how. Another world class lesson for Free on KZbin. Subscribed.

[@MariusSperling]

"hey man your beard is great can we make a plugin?" :DD

[@adrianallen5347]

On DA conversion, I thought the exact same thing when it came to preserving sound quality so now I’m smiling. it’s 100% in the box for me . I record a lot using a Fractal AX8 which can be recorded direct into your DAW by using the SPDIF out. This also cuts out the DA conversion aspect of guitar recording.. if you use a guitar modeler like so many do these days .. Def Leppard etc. it’s a winner

[@miss.antidote]

Love you guys!

[@joelonsdale]

Brilliant interview - some really juicy theories/facts/ideas from Scheps and a little resistance from Pensado!

[@2dollarcrew]

It would be so cool for PP to do a 'Rig Rundown' for their guests. I am so curious what Andrew's mixing rig set up is, front to back. Great interview.

[@baronvonbeandip]

Best episode ever.

[@FlaviusRaymundo2go]

He is ITB because all the tracks was being recorded with full of analog gear already ;)

[@BukanIbuMu]

Flavius Raymundo the mixing process is still itb

[@TheGurner1]

Cool insights for sure

[@bentyreman5769]

I'm going to have to write a song called mascara meltin' now, love that saying

[@andrewjoseffcovers]

Awesome show! :)

[@Hexspa]

Process: Andrew speaks. Pause video. Open new tab. Google. Bookmark. Press play. Repeat.

[@DeeJayBrand0]

i wonder how much Andrews hair messes with his frequency response perception.. lol

[@TheJoeGizzle]

Hairmonic distortion definitely gives his mixes a unique edge.

[@kaiyuVFX]

good one lmao

[@golddee2040]

100% in the box.... WOW! That just broke the production world.

[@pascute118]

Scheps is a fuckin beast! His plugins do wonders

[@zeepster]

[@67Rec]

Awesome intro today :D

[@coreyreynolds3585]

Wow that modulation totally made those tracks come alive without sounding like a cheesy chorus!

[@moano3271]

"if your precious little studio caught fire.." haha

[@Thatroublemakersbeats]

Which album did you use the telescope on.....? All of them. lmao Love the play on words.

[@dippedincustard]

Love Schepps and love the beard jiggle

[@alices.5713]

Great job on Sound Parlor's - Can He Sing Like Me.

[@neuron05]

Whoha!! Nice shirt change Herb!

[@pedder123]

some guys want megan fox and jessica alba, but when andrew scheps said he hung out with joe barresi for 2 days, i got a little excited.

[@bloodlord1989]

Analog Digital Wars!!! lol . I'm all in "the box". Hardware is too expensive for me.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

Software is too expensive for me as well...

[@illmatic1official560]

Michael Angelo H. yet cheaper and more affordable than their hardware counterparts

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

It is, but you're not buying the same and it still doesn't lower the price. - It's a lot of money for a lot of people.

[@conanliquid]

Went totally ITB in 2005. Sold all my analog gear. Never looked back.

[@hyperluminalreality1]

Blood lord. I guess you missed the part where Sheps says he is 100% in the box now. What AvD war? He said he can mix anywhere in the world with a backpack and his Tannoys. Conan..Every time you use any plugin based on vintage gear you are definitely looking back. Looking back with respect to the gear that made more platinum than PT ever will. Haha...Do you still use primitive microphones to capture the sound? That tech is over 100 years old dude. Just an example of our ironic nature. I am 100 % in the box now too, but enjoy what companies like Waves has done for us with the retro feeling and sounding plugins. I always look back, especially when plugging a vacuum tube condenser into my interface......

[@edoardoallertsen]

Between interview no.218 and interview no.73 (both Scheps's interview) there were 3 years. It's now three years since interview no.218... Time for a third one?

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

40:38 "The 1073 (hardware) makes my stuff sound like it was recorded through a pillow." That's kind of ironic considering that I find the plug-in to cause a lot of high-end build-up. Although, I use it in a weird way where I use multiple on the same track to hit multiple bands. Which I'm probably not supposed to do exactly for that build-up reason. But still, I find it to be quite "bright". But OK. - And yea, I know, it's an emulation and possibly improved in clarity over the hardware, as it's digital anyway.

[@RobertLStrupe]

"Hey Cole, throw all my $4it away when I get home!" ` Dave, I want your Shadow Hills compressor!

[@int3533]

I agree. I love sending the telescope to an aux then...

[@michaelsykes4309]

What headphones does he use whilst working in hotels on his laptop???? I must know this to copy him immediately! lol

[@MiguelNoyola1]

Going to have to agree with David converters like plugins have gotten way better and some of the high end ones actually improve the Sonics. I understand though if your slammed with work then a laptop is a good solution.

[@nkarfootTv]

So you're on the Macbook Pro. Where are you plugging in your headphones? Are you lugging around your HD Omni in your back pack?

[@davidvalens3337]

which tannoys does Andrew like to use?

[@JunkyardSam]

SGM-10B

[@johnmullan7454]

H delay the way Pensado used it, Classic Eventide?

[@adriangel143]

I'm interested about the music math app...does anyone know?

[@snapascrew]

sick ITL today boys.

[@michaelangeloh.5383]

11:06 That's not "amount of analogue noise". Settings 1-4 are four different characters of analogue emulation. But... It doesn't make a lot of difference, it just gives variation. Unless you're EXPECTING noise (or more or less of it according to the numbers), that's not really what you'll get or what it does.

[@michaelskyrealm]

have you had Andy Wallace on the show? I'd love to see that!

[@Mystified2012]

Love the show Dave, but you mention a website and an app without providing links, or enunciating the words in a way which we can understand them!

[@jinjer9313]

+Michael Cordell I'm not sure if I missed the website or if he mentioned a second app, but the only one I caught was Smart Math. You should find it just by googling "smart math app" It costs a few dollars, but it's convenient if you are either too lazy to calculate the ms/hz or just don't know how. It offers quite a bit for what it's worth in the long run but I haven't bought it, just checked it out a while back. If there was another one then my bad. :P Hope that helps, though!

[@snapascrew]

+Michael Cordell uhh... he says "music math app" ... the first step to being a good mix engineer is to listen.

[@kezman74]

Burn!

[@rocioaguilarsanchez2472]

Which speakers is he talking about? NS10?

[@JMLRecording]

As always, another GREAT installment. LOVE love love this chanel. However, the intro music is very bland and audience restricting. Dave, you're such a badass engineer and have worked on so much stuff (in so many genres and so well!) Why not broaden the audience by using different clips of genres? Hip hop, jazz, rock, world, etc... open it up guys. Thanks!

[@Hexspa]

I said I wouldn't drunk social media but.. finally Dave's true punk ass self comes out. Love it. Southern competition.

[@kauaipeedee2766]

Program starts at 13:30

[@CutTheBullshitFitness]

Does anybody know what's that lo fi plugin he's talking about?

[@thelab705]

It's a plug that comes with protools. In the harmonic section of the plug-ins list. It's a bit crusher. Great plug

[@adrianlemusic]

Guys, at the beginning of the interview (14:11), they are talking about which band?

[@Fonkemman]

Hozier

[@adrianlemusic]

Emmanuel Bueno Thx! :)

[@Fonkemman]

@@adrianlemusic no prob! Although it was 3 years late haha

[@adrianlemusic]

Emmanuel Bueno It’s true, better late than never lol 😂

[@SubeeKarma]

what is this "telescope thing" they are talking about starting 22:59 ?

[@RomeoRivera2C]

Marsy the Robot they’re just making a joke out of it ha

[@SubeeKarma]

lol. I wasn't paying attention the first I watched the video. Thanks.

[@jimyhustle]

what's the name of the microphone?

[@andreybenassi1]

+jimy hustle RCA KU-3, I think!

[@CasperHomeStudio]

Okay, I know that Dave simply can't win Batterr's Box, but can someone explain me official rules of this game? ;)

[@realraven2000]

36:30 100% in the box - it's all Waves fault.

[@djmoran3773]

Anybody know what speakers Andrew is talking about?

[@kapcsok]

Tannoy SGM-10B if you refer to his studio speakers.

[@stastuhg4212]

Кто нибудь сделает перевод ?

[@monkeyxx]

great episode, great guest, good back and forth. dave the shirt's too pale makes you look grey! I'm an audio expert not a fashion guru, so take that with a grain of salt.

[@peekpen]

Okay why no transcript?

[@felixtoro2665]

Dave's haircut though...

[@FlyingFooBalls]

You make album quality beats with machine bc its 2015, and thats what happens now.

[@MelomanTheNerd]

"...well now lets see what I got: I've got .6 and a depth of one..." That's what she said.

[@duncandistortion]

looks like lee sklar.

[@VicHightaian]

.bip lol

[@kaybizzle2585]

Hhahaha Old Neeve telescope huh

[@duarteteixeiradebarros3555]

Andrew is a definitely a genius - however, he's tendency to abuse dynamic compression ends up compromising the overall sound quality of some of his work. Just look at RHCP's albums where master pieces as Californication lose so much because of compression. An interesting exercise is listening to his albums in LP vs CD where the impact of compression is very noticeable - e.g. RHCP, Metallica or Adele's

[@georgemcnaughton8238]

***** he mentions that he does NOT do the mastering it is not his decision to do that

[@ThrillaPark]

Love the show as many do. But please limit talking over and/or interrupting the guest. They're the star. Also, the under the breath side talk bet Dave and the guy in the middle WHILE the guest is talking makes it hard to hear what the guest is saying. Lastly, inside jokes are so boring for the listener. Thank you and you guys are awesome.

[@youryella]

You are you telling them what to do?

[@thechannelitrollwith1645]

I really don't understand the whole deal with batter's box. Does it rely on some old norm that engineers don't like saying what they use or is the weird hype they give to the competition aspect just...weird? It's not a test of intellect or anything, it's just naming a piece of gear. That's all it is. The info makes for a cool segment for gear, but most of the guests have no idea wtf is happening with the build up. Love the interview, but I've been confused by that segment for nearly a decade now.

[@themotownboy1]

Andrew Schepps contradicts himself. He has been a proponent of analog over digital, yet he is in the box now...

[@bigdrummy1911]

To be fair...I think most of us would call ourselves proponents of analog, but realize the practicality of digital. Cheers to Andrew for at least trying to help keep analog recording an inspiring process for new engineers!

[@christianolmeda]

themotownboy1 He's actually saying this has been a change. I think it's a testament to an open minded and progressive artist/engineer/producer to embrace new generations of technology. And frankly, even 5, 8 years in plugins and processing are quite a leap.

[@fledsup]

themotownboy1 I understand your perception, however, its better to be open to change then be stuck in the past. When Pro tools first came on the commercial market around 1996. One of their main reps my friend (Joel) took the first HD system to Lenny Kravitz. They did a blind test shoot out recording only a drum kit. My friend said the clear winner was the analog tape. Pro tools sounded thin and tinny. In 2003, Pro tools had improved their systems and converters. They went to Lennys studio again, and this time he chose Pro tools. At least he was open to change.