All about Reverb and Vocals - Pensado's Place

Dave drills down into an all-tutorial show! We start off with Part 2 of last weeks ITL on drums with Erik Reichers and a 30 minute deep-dive into vocals and reverb effects with Dave.
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[@Andybaby]

Reverb and Vocals talk starts at 12:50

[@jacksonprinceful]

Andybaby Thank you

[@geamase]

Thank you!

[@fairekennings2347]

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[@LucasVallimZero]

+Andybaby Thanks!

[@Twelve50TV]

yeah boy !!

[@Matt.Ice06]

The hardest part about watching Pensado's Place is finishing an episode! I can't seem to finish in one sitting without running off and mixing because of the ideas you share. Thank you so much Dave, Herb and co.

[@sassypanda7543]

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[@sassypanda7543]

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[@sassypanda7543]

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[@dissidentsound]

dont be afraid to add effects to your effects!

[@soywaris]

You can watch the video at 1.25 speed.

[@inarisound]

XD

[@johnt529]

1.75

[@sunnydeyaliofficial]

i was confused why the reverb sounds funny than i realized i read your comment and speed up the video.I have to watch it again in normal speed now.so Screw u

[@simpleguitarchords4030]

'man this lady can sing' , I love how he really feels the music he mixes.

[@FRANKRICECOLD209]

NICE Thanks Man Dave are you using the New Mac Pro your using a lot of Plugins on one Vocal that is a lot of processing going on i am on a older Mac Pro i don't think i can get away with using that many plugins ( YOU SHOULD DO A ITL ON YOU COMPUTER AND PROCESSING NEEDED AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE COOL )

[@andrewpulley98]

frank rogers You shouldn't have too much of a problem with that amount of processing on a single vocal if you increase your playback engine buffer to 1024 samples while mixing. Dave also uses UAD plugins, which utilizes an external DSP. Even with that much info, I'd love to see how much external DSP he uses.

[@andrewpulley98]

frank rogers​ I try to run the buffer as high as possible when bouncing online, as this tends to reduce the chance of error during bounce. Offline bounce doesn't care about the buffer setting, because it renders the audio only as fast as your system will allow. In fact, the only time I run a low buffer is during tracking. It's only then that you can hear any latency, because you have a point of reference to work from (the sound of the instrument you are recording vs. the sound coming out of your speakers).

[@jastacruz]

haha 35:06

[@zabtej1645]

so much gold in there 22:04 Uhmmmm.. ........ CHUHUIWIHDUSILKHF:JJLRFUHW

[@myriaddsystems]

There like a couple of sports commentators - but just what ARE they going on about for the first 10 minutes? I couldn't watch anymore. Bore!

[@iancopelandgreen]

Hey i just wanted to say thank you so much for doing these Mr Pensado you are such a blessing and so humble, you are a true inspiration God Bless you !

[@cisco0430]

So you are saying to add multiple reverbs to a vocal through different aux tracks ?

[@mariospavlou8421]

where he said that? i want to see it

[@jamesrobinson529]

Much respect Big Pen! I clicked on the pre video ad to show some love! I haven't gone to the grocery store to buy some Tillamook medium cheddar cheese yet, because i'm going to watch the video first! Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge!

[@mauricemoore.]

whats the reverb hes using on his desk ?

[@jayc6201]

Where do I sign up for the 2-day reverb seminar?

[@MattySagz]

12:40 "If i say sometimes one more time....." 2 seconds later "He likes to do that sometimes" xD

[@kaykaliah]

His mic is way too good for him... picks up all his old man noises and amplifies studdering. 16:37-16:57 I can't stand how much producers ramble on about nothing.

[@Minorhead]

+Kaykaliah Smithalus laughing at this for the past 5 mins hahaha

[@peddlebreaker]

Thank you so much guys, it means so much to me personally to be able to share in your knowledge and philosophy of mixing and music in general. I hope to be able to pass on the love to others too.

[@dominicdrummond2233]

Y'all gotta get Ali on an episode after the new kendrick album. I would love that

[@InXLsisDeo]

That reverb is more like delay+reverb to make an echo.

[@rohanshahmusic]

That treated vocal sounded unbelievable, amazing, Dave is a true master!! Loved the sound of the Bricasti too!

[@JayPeek]

Jill Scott "relates ALOT to my sensibilities and my tastes!" What a privilege to be entrusted with her voice.

[@samknaak]

Hey guys question! I know Dave goes in and out of Protools for some parts of his mixing, the 500 series or outboard effects... what converters does Dave have there at his spot? Is he just using Avid?

[@arboraudio]

Dave, I get inspired every time I watch your videos. Thank you for sharing your hard-earned skills, and for sharing your excitement about the artistry.

[@Juan-Diego-SG]

JUST LISTEN... BEFORE: 14:42 AFTER 37:56 (Almost) OR 39:28 (FINAL with SLAP and INSTRUMENTS)

[@heyrobined]

awesome thanks

[@Juan-Diego-SG]

You're welcome!

[@maticlee8535]

I appreciate the knowledge, I never thought to put a gated reverb on a vocal.

[@EIPStudiosOhio]

In this scenario here the pre-delay is far too long, the bloom of the reverb builds on top of it, and to my ears really drags behind... I would really pull that initial pre-delay almost to zero, and let the bloom effect yield that smooth intake for good vocal placement... You already have "early reflections" in affect set up with that slap delay presence you chained in earlier for width... OR bring in an ER model in as a secondary effect and pre-elay that on its own, and adjust to taste to the hall reverb bloom swell to achieve your sweet spot, and keeps the vocal sounding "sweet" as you wanted it to appear

[@samuelellringmann3424]

Please so more of these in depth tutorials! So useful! I´ll watch them any day and I´m sure 90 % of the guys here will! Thanks Dave =)

[@BRud1976]

Minnie Riperton impression by Jill Scott...ugh

[@joshcoxmusic]

"they make about a million plugins and they are about a nickel a piece" 🤣🤣 Dave is so funny

[@KUPHSER]

can anyone recommend a serious reverb unit for around $1000? even if its second hand but legendary, i just want a legit reverb unit

[@Jjf109nine]

KUPHSER pcm 70

[@Charlyfromthenuclearcity]

TC Electronic M3000 might be round this price.

[@inactiveaccount843]

Great to have these guys giving back to the community.. Also check out Michael White (former lecturer at SAE (9 yrs)) his youtube vids are masterclasses.. Big up Mr Pensado

[@kidkut1]

GREAT ITL! Really good episode!!! THX

[@livingrecordings7480]

gotta keep the plugins happy, fellas-

[@NicoAstegiano]

One of the best Episodes Ever! I can be watching 2 days of ITL with Dave easily!!

[@ward1739]

grandee!

[@lambadalasse]

super tutorial ...thanks

[@anthonyaspromonte4351]

man never knew u actaully use that much processing on one vocal track could barely keep track of all the diff plugins lol

[@georgeellias3604]

Her voice needs a fairchild brah. why you doing her that diservice?

[@stokes111111]

im lovin your videos, im so glad i cam across them. Im wondering if delays and verbs on vocals "should" be mono or stereo? Thanks!

[@tntcheats]

When you said that line about thinking it was a hallway but it's a concert hall I almost threw my computer out the window - I just learned that when you said it

[@doublescore223]

Thank you SO MUCH Dave! Very helpful tips for my new album. I was looking to tweak my vocal reverb and you hit the nail right on the head.

[@LeifBent]

Really helpful! Vocal spaces and reverbs can be pretty difficult sometimes... ;)

[@ryda_music]

Thank you Dave for giving such a great starting point!

[@Fwuzeem]

Is Frank Dave's other name?

[@bobbyarchbold9126]

Any examples of the gated trick at 44:00?

[@hamet1234]

That half an hour flew by... Love listening to this man, makes me feel like everything's gonna be a-o-kay

[@wyldkard4461]

i feel like he just be showing off ..hey guys look how many reverb plugin i got ..smh stick to one plugin and teach ppl how to get the job done .

[@badinibeats5939]

the master at work

[@keychange6231]

he said he likes to keep his slaps between 80 and 120. 80 and 120 what? milliseconds?

[@ProToolsAvidSchool]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 14:45 Dave's face!!!!!! FUNNYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! LOOOOOL

[@RchieD]

31:00 'This is just a hall, a basic standard hall' (£3500 Bricasti)

[@henry-joemurphy2035]

My biggest criticism/frustration with digital recording, mixing and mastering is "DEPTH"... No matter how LOUD it gets, compared to old recordings, I just never get the feeling of things being 3-D... they just seem "FLAT" (not pitch). I've been doing lots of driving lately switching between old records from the 70's and new stuff...and the tones of the old records sound better, richer, warmer, glassier and have the front to back sound-stage as well as that 3 dimensional factor that digital recording just doesn't seem to get so well... your thoughts?

[@jjjuhg]

True. but didn't they have a lot less tracks in a song? now we use too many instruments. to have depth and space we need simplicity, so each instrument will have more of it's own space. you can feel the beauty of the instrument much more. it also has to do with the tube, tape and older gear...even Dave uses 95 % in the box now...

[@jjjuhg]

daft punk tried to re create that beautiful sound and style. I like what they ve achieved. I think the majority of us like it.

[@henry-joemurphy2035]

creative media Yeah, I mean, I've been making records in the digital domain since the early 90's. But when I began interning in recording studios ("Southern Tracks"/"Studio 1"/"Web 4") in ATL, everything was still analog, and I recorded my first stuff analog. I don't think the problem is a function of tracks, though the more things you add, the smaller everything gets. It definitely has a lot to do with tubes, transistors, real capacitors and nobs to turn verses plug ins. And to make an analogy digital is to analog what video is to film... There's a kind of "chemical" magic with film that add's it's own character or "thing" with the emulsion of chemicals. Likewise, there's nothing like the musicality and warmth of "tape compression"...And I even wonder if a lot of what talking about is in the realm of "psycho acoustics" where digital can't record the "over-tones" and inaudible octaves that analog does. Regardless, I'm getting ready to do a NEW project of my own with very "sparse" production (8 tracks), and I'm using ALL analog recording, all analog outboard and mixing to analog tape as well. I'll probably send the tape master to Disc Makers to make a vinyl record! But I'll do digital files to send to iTunes, Amazon and Google via cdbaby. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply, my friend.. God bless and peace be to you!

[@jjjuhg]

Great. Exactly what you said, I couldn't say better. The idea to use only analog is like a challenge that many of us would live to try. It is interesting to work like that and achieve a desired sound. Only by watching Dave Pensado and Joseph Puig and others talking about making music and I became like... better... I have more drive now :-D nice talking, cheers!

[@michaelgraflmusic]

I think what you hearing isn't the difference between digital and analog, but rather different production paradigms. All those mo-town records would have a very similar feeling of space if they were tracked on an hdd. But mic placement and signal chains would be a lot different nowadays.

[@bentyreman5769]

can he have a 500 series rack tour? is that a new elysia compressor dave? or the nvelope or xfilter? :D

[@-ayld-]

What I like about you - Dave - ... you make me remember to play - with my daw -

[@EIPStudiosOhio]

Ahh the plate sounds better here.... I like that better

[@JakeSharpProfoundStudio]

Great storehouse of knowledge in these videos! Thanks guys.

[@blacksheep806]

Ooh this was so good! Thanks Dave!

[@thecrashharder01]

Anyone else feel weird about "Dave P Dives Deep"?

[@proverbalizer]

As an artist it's hard to know when you are done polishing your creation. When do you have the right vocal take? When are you done with the production and arrangement? When are you done mixing? When in reality there's ALWAYS room for improvement. Answer: 15:35

[@MrMemyselfandi415]

LOL! I catch myself trying to click and drag things on the screen while I'm watching these vids. I totally just did it @15:53 so I could see the complete plug and settings. Believe it or not I've never used the C1. I'll have to check it out. I usually use the Rcomp....L2...1176....UAD Tubetechs...have recently looked at the C4. But my recent fave to manhandle unwildly sounds is the DBX160. Kind of a "run of the mill" compressor with not a ton of color that can really put things in line. Sounds like live sound kinda thing. Not real musical but totally has it's place. I've heard people say they can make a distressor sound like anything they want though so that's also on my list to check out. I'm all in the box at this point so its plugs galore. By the way...really dig the Klanghelm Mjuc you recommended. Great plug and it's CHEAP. Love cranking the "drive" knob on that baby...but.....you have to use it with something else to really dial things in. But the sound is there for sure. Anyway..love your vids Dave. The fact that this is 5 years old and I'm still here watching says something.

[@manikraina2154]

It’s the third year of me watching this and understanding. Funny how with every passing year’s experience there is a better understanding to absorb for me personally. Now these techniques make more sense in terms of feel as opposed to just the technicalities of it. I am now getting more capable of getting the emotional impact of these reverb/ delay techniques. Thank you for such valuable information. Dave is a legend. Although I am a music producer, you have inspired me enough to look at my production in terms of the mixing result of it. Thank you truly. - Manik Raina ( DOST. )

[@DatAnydeks]

This video captured my attention intently. IMHO I’ve heard so many songs overuse reverb and delay. Dave knows where and how to set the vocal focus in relation to the song. I’ve repeatedly noticed how he often uses multiple plugins, yet each offering minor adjustments. All this makes me smile with him when he smiles at his own work saying, “That’s pretty good!” 😊

[@italsoops937]

Who gives DP a thumbs down? Seriously? You must be mega talented and earning shit loads of wonga. And even then I would have nothing but deep respect for this man. Good luck to you!

[@AntoineDufour]

Thank you! Great stuff. Love you Dave!

[@DAYTON_off]

"Adjusting relationship between early reflections and reverb time" - no clue

[@proverbalizer]

Vadimme I heard the forward/backwards movement clearly. I gotta pay more attention to that in my future mixes

[@proverbalizer]

44:26 wow. My mind just expanded like a double layer expanding reverb

[@TheWriter86]

Wow what great insights on reverb. Thanks so much Dave! You’re the man!!!!!

[@queenmuzik5010]

dave heres a good question? The vocal lick in this song is great but reminds me of a part from a movie soundtrack? Do you know what that movie is? Its killing me to remember this movie? Love your channel !!! Great!!! Keep it coming!!!

[@KKMcK1]

what is that piece of hardware you are dialing to affect the reverb pre-delay? And yes, more info on the immediate hardware. Computers, Pcie cards, accelerators, monitor control, etc. Thanks Dave!

[@popmasterchoice]

i saw when using Maxx Bass , you put the original bass below 0 its mean theres natural bass you put out and add some maxx bass wich is more like a loundness that goes top frequency, it reshape the tone... let me confirm with you Dave :) if im right

[@helloitsjury]

Thank you Dave, you are a legend!!! Could you please make one on how to mix vocal overdubs? I would be forever grateful!

[@eddiebazil5080]

Would like to see your reverb settings,. preferably a plugin as I don't have the mighty Bricasti.

[@arrowember9743]

Dave, this is really good information. So helpful to gain an understanding of how to use these tools to place things in the mix. I've literally watched this 5 times already. Every time, I pick up something new!

[@malcowicz]

After this lesson I know how to use predelay as musician. Thanks Dave!)

[@rayshontv7451]

lookin good dave. nice hair cut

[@tnunez01]

AWESOME!!! Thank you! Great stuff Thanks Dave!

[@davidhodgin8900]

What are those automation points on the vocal?

[@fujimoriful]

Hey Dave & Herb! Sometimes i come home from a long day at work and want to relax. But if i watch your show on my lunch break, I come home and make Music! Thanks for doing what you do! I Love You Dude

[@MortSubitegoddamnit]

At 15:59, when you bring up the sidechain, are you just using that as a straight EQ, or is that frequency being keyed by something?

[@alohamario3739]

Dude that was really informative as I'm a musician and learning Logic, plug ins and lots other recording techniques and tools. I have two Octavias 300's and set them up to my mixer and into an interface and whoa what a sound but knew there's waaaay more to learn. Thanks.

[@Kebogoddi]

💯💡™

[@Chobed]

Thank you Dave! You are such a great inspiration, so good in your craft, and so humble! You really help a lot!

[@LazyCloud9]

What Episode does he show Music Math?

[@HeyTiGBeats]

Bro this intro is stupid long

[@RedRosamond]

Herbs shirt is fire

[@sammysabbah6118]

So I don't really understand the part in the beginning when he is adding a drum sample to help the ratio between the toms and the bleed. Wouldn't be so much easier just to use a noise gate to help turn the bleed down?

[@Fokseh]

sammy sabbah Easier? Maybe, but you'd get a different result. Now he's able to blend in a sample with it's natural decay time. it gives you a lot more control.

[@metabeard3788]

Not sure I follow what you were talking about with the gated reverb at the end there. Could you do a video showing how this is done? It sounds interesting, but I can't figure it out...

[@camerongawn]

Asmr

[@kingtonghsp]

That guy is way too smart for that skull shirt.

[@TheHouseofTone]

AWESOME episode - I like the longer ITL more info ....thanks

[@carsonkoenig8562]

skipped to the part where he just said "in the butt.....which he enjoys doing sometimes..." just had to run it back to see what he was talking about

[@edsavage6214]

Great insights Dave! The idea of choosing a space because of its relevance to the music, like big and small venue, was very inspiring for me, sometimes one loses perspective and just starts adding fx for no reason XD Also the drum samples tutorial is pure gold!

[@Bagpipemaster]

Wow, learned a ton thanks!!!

[@TrevorHelt]

Dave, you almost have too much swag with the new haircut...other than that, great video!

[@pepefabregues6362]

vaya oidos tienes . eres el mejor

[@jamesfeekes9661]

What does it mean to "parallel"?

[@jamesmeyer3351]

This is really good and covers some interesting principles. Please can you look into remembering to look into doing an episode on 'Chorus' and vocals? Or recording gain structure?

[@hectorjunior7608]

Love you man! Thanx for sharring so much with us ,your a god send,life saver.

started doing real drum samples being played by built in midi in 2006 lol about time i hear it done by someone else

[@farfymcdoogle3461]

Dave you are so awesome for sharing your knowledge with aspiring artists like me. Thank you sincerely.

[@andrewjoseffcovers]

Awesome ITL! Really helpful video! :)

[@ricoladon]

Hey man,good to see ya again...and that's a nice new look for ya. Dig the hair cut too...So, let's get to work...

[@benjystackz1907]

whos frank pensado?