Penuel The Black Pen | In Conversation Rob Hersov, Anglovaal, Warren Buffett, Airline, Mining, ANC

Penuel The Black sits down to have a conversation with billionaire and philanthropist, Rob Hersov. Rob Hersov has had an illustrious business career across the globe, is a descendant of the Hersov Family of AngloVaal and is a passionate South African, looking to give back to his country and fix the current ills.

[@sirtechnifiletric4646]

Penuel probably you won't read this but if you do bro, allow your guest to express and finish their points above all let them express their train of thoughts. Rob wanted to share more however he you kept interrupting him. He had this burning point he wanted to share and he did not share. I hope you'll learn from this and grow. All the best bro.

[@modisakgotlabokgosi4714]

Constructive criticism ✌

[@Pimpmykitchen2508]

True and I was waiting to hear that from Rob but Pen disturbed him and Rob never came to that point again.....I think he must learn more from Dj Sbu when interviewing ppl

[@gcinilemabuza5048]

i think he gets too excited...i noticed it with the Rutendo episode..he really needs to work on it.

[@etherlife4231]

he wants the limelight too.. yet he has a podcast and a vlog..smh

[@manqobawayne951]

True that

[@johanweakley2658]

I worked for Anglovaal Mining in their HO for 22 years. What a company to work for! Robs dad Basil Hersov is a complete legend, a genius businessman and a gentleman.

[@bonis3362]

Imagine having Rob, Musi, Gayton, Malema and Steenhuisen having a discussion in one round table..mediated by Pen. Unfiltered honest discussions. That would be a cracker.

[@godpenuel]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@sibusisosimelane9366]

That should definitely happen...

[@Us30_licious_montshi]

He must make it happen

[@thescoop5127]

I don’t think there would be enough time for them to finish those debates/discussions. I can see it already. But that would be really 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@nkosenhlesosibo5037]

Yeah we really need something like that, even if it could take 24 hrs it's okay. I hope God Pen will do miracles😁❤

[@dikozimasile6269]

I commend Rob for mentioning this point that most of us black guys do not have access to mentors. However,what I resorted to do is reading books and using them as my mentors. May God bless you for what you are doing.

[@africaiswealthy.africanson5072]

That's good Diko but what mentors to is connect you with opportunities, with mentors you can easily land a job or get Funding for your business

[@DirkJacobsz]

There is a world and wealth of knowledge in books - well done - those old authors can be your best friends..

[@seikanelosedibane923]

Mate, what a great conversation. People want us to live under idealogies. We want to win, we wnat the country to win and our people to win. This has nothing to do with colour, race or class. Keep up the good work.

[@afd4017]

you can't "win" without a clearly defined identity. The consciousness of black people is rising all over the world finally. We're learning our history and gravitating towards intellect when our whole lives we were raised to worship white civilization and gravitated more towards arts & culture. We just need to now translate this movement into economic activity & nation-building. That's why we need platforms like Penuel's (who reminds me of Lex Friedman's podcast a little bit) to have these intelligent and practical discussions, to tell our stories and rebuild our country for all south Africans & ultimately the world

[@godpenuel]

Blessings Seikanelo 🙏🏽❤️

[@stlouisix3]

@@afd4017 Indigenous South Afcns are struggling because, because, because of you Blacks promoting all your anti-Western, fasco-socialist & communist, collectivistic, backwards ideology. Why do you leftist, socialists hate South Afa so much?

[@Jamluji]

The irony of South Africans not realizing that their struggles are due to nothing other than ideology fused with white capital. Only if yoy understood how global capital flows

[@fanamlawuli6761]

You living in dream land, still being sold " the White dream", we will not go anywhere with weak mentality I'm seeing here

[@roderickbowes2482]

We need more of this -- Two people respecting each other -- working on a solution to fix SA . Please keep it up. I pray to the Lord that you WILL SUCCEED ! ! ! The alternative is too Ghastly to contemplate ! ! ! !

[@cavinfana9958]

This is the most informative PODCAST in South African. Thank you Penuel

[@mahlatsemokete8529]

Man like kholofelo maponya and this guy, this is good shit

[@dk.650]

Have you tried morning shot?

[@brianmurray1734]

We’ll said. Pen has just made me a subscriber

[@emptycell]

No it’s not. Rutendo was more informational

[@nombulelombhele621]

South Africa needed a person like Rob to tell it like it is .

[@bongasomhlahlo9686]

Great interview Black Pen, Rob is a true patriot. The fact that he is white and privileged should not overshadow that fact. We need more people that care about this country whether black or white. And yes we should vote out the thieving ANC in 2024 if we want to build a decent nation.

[@fanamlawuli6761]

Reconciliation was a con, white and black in South Africa will never work together, the sooner you get over that utopia, the sooner black people take charge of there lives

[@geraldkrupanandham162]

Thank you Rob for having the courage to stand out and say what needs being said and also for being such a decent human being. We need more people like you in the forefront.God bless you Sir.

[@sirg4575]

Rob seems prepared to do the work of getting SA going, with or without anyone. I love his honesty

[@zulu_mafia]

He's just a Spoilt Loud Apartheid Billionaire Has Zero Interest in fighting Racism or for Black Economic Freedom He's fascinated by Coconuts like Musi and Herman

[@rubensteinrabinowitz1836]

I was born in Mayfair. My Dad had a fruit and veg shop. Making average of R45 per month. My mother worked for R31-50 per month and walked to Hillbrow to work and back to Mayfair 6 days a week. I am a white man.

[@Sphaman1000]

I admire this mans honesty. No rags to riches bullshit lies people alway tell. Good show Penuel 👏👏

[@anilenk2103]

I am so tired of all the stone throwing and negative discussions on the web that this is really refreshing to see people who are positive and passionate. People normally like to bring positive and passionate people down to their own level of complain and murmur. Rather be active and try to get things done and in the process making mistakes than doing nothing! God bless!!!

[@sizwenkosi8882]

Rob a true South African ,thank you for your bravery and truly inspirational man .

[@mphojames4547]

There's a handful of dry content out there that's trending but Penuel is a valuable thought leader that we as south africans should protect like a treasure, I am pleased to say that I identify with this fellow, and i am behind you all the way, willing to even extend my support financially , thanks brother!

[@godpenuel]

Love and blessings, Mpho 🙏🏽

[@mzoxololucky4104]

This guy and he makes it look easy

[@inganomanzi4389]

Great interview. It's inspiring to hear productive conversations about the future of South Africa. A lot of us are tired of the anger and pointing fingers, we just want to move on and make this country the best it can be.

[@michaelralph5472]

well said!

[@m.x.refrigxolani8365]

@@aginn9506 no, you shut up!!! There's no sense in your brain at all!! What kind thinking is this!!! Yerrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

[@philipbanda6637]

@@michaelralph5472 you can not Move On without an apology from Colonialists /Apartheid pigs, and Land issue remains unresolved , no reparations yet :- there shall never be the so called lets "move on " . Germany appologised and paid reparations to a group of people they killed and they're still looking for the murderers who by the way are mostly over 91 yrs old .

[@thembi9645]

I’m tired too I just want to be positive and move forward to build a better SA for all of us SAns

[@thembi9645]

@@aginn9506 are u not tired coz Anc is doin nothing and nothin will be done until we die 🤷🏽‍♀️ We only live once bethuna. Okwenzekileyo kwenzekile

[@nathimbele]

Great conversation, well done Penual. Rob is one of many people we need, he's talking about an uncomfortable truth that we do not want to hear!

[@ndofiretv]

Black Pen, when you invite someone to your show; let them talk more. Then you can ask follow on questions and get clarification etc.

[@landcore4817]

Black Pen. Let the guy talk, dont cut him off dont lead him. Let him rant!

[@brianraliphaswa5220]

😂😂😂For Real

[@nomfunekonosilela3895]

We've been telling Penuel even during Virtual Mkhukhu sessions, he doesn't listen.

[@sabelomaqala6288]

Yerr he puts himself in everything, it's like he's trying to prove he knows the guest personally, very irritating but great information from the guest.

[@onlybuhle]

Right cause I didn’t even get to understand the Patrice point

[@msizimagaye9406]

Gotta love Rob. He's frank, bold and doesn't give a damn. Man is honest about him and his family being wealthy. Very interesting wealthy guy, keen for SA to Prosper.

[@sasaz6084]

Great conversation by all means. Pen, Keep doing this. Great to know Rob you aren’t part of the club and you aren’t Mr Global. You are truly giving SA hope and kind of fresh air listening to you. SA’ns got to wake up !

[@weymouthesterhuizen1145]

Loved this. Thank you. Keep on moving and doing good. Love this. God bless SA.

[@rotshidzwamudzanani1210]

Penuel is a real deal and his platform is definitely going places.

[@patmartens4751]

The balance has really surprised me and gives me hope for our beautiful country that I haven’t felt for a long time

[@alanfanaroff124]

Thanks to Pen and Rob for your honesty and integrity and we need lots more like you guys to save SA

[@johnjoseph11]

Only recently started listening to Pen after a few months of seeing his content and i must say watching the full pod was one of my better choices.

[@Stefan-nn9zo]

Dude respect i salute both you these are the ppl we need in our land .thank you !!!

[@christinemeyer9160]

What a brilliant interviewer! You are on top of your topics and guests. Very balanced attitude

[@matsobanekekana9994]

This has to be the coolest and one of the most influential podcasts we always needed!

[@Straightdeal]

The big business issue is a real issue, and touching a very sensitive nerve. Good for you Rob; we need more of your ilk.

[@tshepisombata]

Pen is about to be the biggest asset in SA, and the wealthiest young man, too

[@WorkingOnPefect]

Good Afternoon King, I am 20 minutes in. I have to Take Time and tell you. You Amazing !, I am Proud of You as a young blackman right now, ngiyabonga and I See You🙌 Following you, has done for my Mind... Life Changing, literally breaking Generational Bondage. Thank You Gentlemen. This is beyond wealth for me its self worth. Happy Monday

[@godpenuel]

Sibusiso... thank you for being a blessing. You're appreciated 🙏🏽❤️

[@hrlwww]

Penuel, this was a very thought provoking discussion. Thank you very much. 🙏

[@samanthaholm9634]

Thank you so much. All these discussions open more people minds. Self reflection I think is key. What part did I play not improving my country or myself. Imagine it's like being a grown up.

[@siyandarasi8494]

The South Africa I envision 🙌🥇🇿🇦 Gold Stuff to both of you Pen and Rob 🥇🤝

[@MegaArmien]

What a conversation !! We need more of this . Wabafet.

[@pulemotswiri1261]

Hi Pen, you just made me feel like I lost couple of years of my life, your conversation with Mr Harsov honestly not only opened my eyes but got rid of the myopic way of looking at south african politics. Im informed. You have gained a subscribe. Disappointed that i should have joined you earlier. I managed to catch up on couple of your conversations,really impressed bother keep up the great work.

[@kateseverein7650]

Excellent excellent excellent - pls more interviews like this to educate ALL of us South Africans - we SO need this for our amazing beautiful country to succeed

[@jonolavender]

This needs more views. It was a pleasure falling into this conversation Pen. Thanks for facilitating this and sharing with SA.

[@mondlism]

Great chat.....we need more of these insightful conversations Penuel keep them coming.

[@nkolisa8337]

Thank you Penuel , the show was very informative and powerful. Remind me of Gevin Mkhari the giant.

[@justanotherearthling1062]

I hate that this is needed in South Africa, but I agree with you. We have to talk about the things that people find uncomfortable. Keep up the good work!

[@nontandozondo1880]

Penuel you are doing a good job. Involving good people we would never know about, alleviating ignorance and unnecessary hatred that has been sung in the air and dropped into our ears. Hearing people boldly expressing how they view the falling of the possible beautiful country.

[@jezzaj4579]

Thankyou for this great platform that challenges all our thinking however controversial it may be. Cut the emotion, step back and have honest open discussion. This country can explode with growth!

[@lunganingwabe2261]

I guess I just needed more time to hear what Rob has to say and I have to admit I am quarter to captured. You two gentlemen speak a lot of sense. I'd like to see more conversations with people like Rob and Pen

[@kobusvanstaden3747]

Wow, why did I find this channel only now? I totally share the passion for creating a network for cooperation and connection for business! Let's get that done ASAP!

[@fezimathumbu5753]

Thanks again Penuel for another good conversation, I'm so happy to hear this and my hope is:we as South Africans we will be happy again,smile again🤞 😍🙏

[@jamesxanthios1317]

Another great conversation with Rob. He is a solidly honest man, withholding nothing. The political class should heed his advice and turn around the country…the great RSA. To work with you gents would be great and fun too. But Pen you have so many things on your plate. Are you spreading yourself a little thin? Nonetheless a great conversation evoking feelings of self actualization by doing what matters to one’s self and life in general. Cheers from Canada Pen….oh I also saw Rob drop your name on BN…fantastic.

[@mandlenkosiharike6597]

Thank you very much for this intelligent interview Pennuel. You are great , an intelligent hardworker who will continue to be blessed by God.

[@itumelengmotlhale2431]

I am beginning to like Rob. Such an honest guy and the always ready to share his thoughts regardless of how the land. I appreciate his time on your behalf. He's always available for you every time you shout.

[@mandlenkosiharike6597]

Please Rob Hersov, get the Independent Western Cape for us. We are tired of being part of corrupt South Africa.

[@kingsiphonhleko5914]

Great interview as always Pen,your insights into different topics is highly commendable! Shout out to you !

[@stlouisix3]

@@mandlenkosiharike6597 bruv, you and your parents are probably from outside the Western Cape. How about we kick you out to Soweto. Stop trying to insult South Afa.

[@dumisani1329]

Brilliant interview Pen, I am only unhappy with not letting Rob drop names 46:36. Podcasts are uncensored. This sets a bad precedent for other high profile interviews. I believe people like Rob cannot be intimidated by defamation lawsuits against them should things go south. Thank you for giving us a seat at tables with individuals that we might never be invited to

[@godpenuel]

There's uncensored... then there's stupidity. Let's not use podcasts to drive lawsuits, destroy families and put targets on people's backs.

[@Dude-1689]

Bro go check his recent speech on BizNews 👌

[@siyabonganxumalo4574]

Its the ANC current top 6.

[@onketshotsho1395]

My take on this conversation is that "I can and I need to do better' not just for myself but for the greater society. Watching you, Penuel, sharing yourself with the world and how you have built yourself ground up has left me inspired. I struggle to answer the question: What is my purpose in life? You are truly blessed and previladged to be in such close proximity with such individuals and mentors who are grooming you to be alike. Love the show. Big up to you champ.

[@dibamokou8071]

Hi Penuel i love your podcast im learning a lot from you and your guests

[@godfreythwala6123]

this is magical we need to find ways to get such messages to the ones who cant hear

[@johannesbenade6601]

I dont normally comment, but i really enjoyed this interview! Good job young man!

[@mike660722]

Hi Penuel just got fed this interview and I commend you for an excellent show! I shall certainly be subscribing. Love your brutal honesty and openness. SA needs more like you. Keep it up!

[@fortunebulunga4838]

I like this Rob Hersov guy. He unapologetically speaks his mind.😍

[@MickJaggerr1]

44min into this. Use to follow Penuel when he would shoot videos from inside his car. Remember the one where he spoke of Rob... then KZbin suggests this video of him interviewing Rob on his own Podcast! ... I am white 37 year old, writing this message in the UK, I can relate to what ROb mentions of white guys dying to come back to SA - I am one of them, but just dont see a future for my twin (white) girls. Excellent podcast, well hosted, excellent interviewing skills Pen!

[@stlouisix3]

If you are friends with influential people, get them to help destroy the ANCommunists and inEFFectives. The governments of the UK nations🇬🇧 need to help eradicate socialism from South Afa.

[@africaiswealthy.africanson5072]

We are working on our country mick. Young people are standing up against the government, we are standing up against Gender based violence and all social ills. But we need you guys who are in other countries to contribute too. Get involved in conversations about building this country and pass my greetings to your family. Cheers mate

[@bungane_omkhulu]

Fix apartheid issues first and than the rest of the issues will follow

[@pieterduplessis6906]

@@bungane_omkhulu This is naive at best. Apartheid is only ONE of the issues we face. The main issue is that the ruling party is actively NOT fixing the issues. So, it is not just the past anymore but the incompetence of the present as well. Liberation is one thing, but actually governing is not a skill the current puppets have. We need new people not riding on the liberation owning bandwagon as their only claim to fame.

[@moafrikapartners]

I'm halfway through the conversation and I can't help but commend the wealth of knowledge here. Thanks a lot for this Penuel (and the team).

[@marrw2824]

Pen am so proud of you. This was a very good interview. Both of you and Rob are my favourites. Good job pen🙏 love to listen to stuff like this. 👍

[@Joey-lu3be]

Please tell Rob I was one of a few people who wanted to buy the fisantekraal air space. We had a blue print in how we wanted to develop that area. I'm in Kenya now and a friend of mine send me a message, reminding me that about 20 years ago , I had plans to develop that airport. It's amazing that money came on board and in my time I couldn't fine financing. I'd really love to be part of that. So, it's not a new thing Rob. I was one of the pioneers.....but it's unknown information

[@siyandarasi8494]

As a person who likes American plartforms like these I must say this is at the same level if not above a few when it comes to the quality of the content 🥇🙌

[@godpenuel]

Blessings 🙏🏽❤️

[@henda1538]

Usuke usufunani ko America wena ngoba use South

[@joshuajose4395]

This was seriously a podcast worth watching from beginning to end! You are such a brilliant host, definitely have a bright future ahead of you! Kudos to Rob too for his excellent display of character and charisma. Keep up the good work!

[@lebogangmonareng4129]

I respect both of these men 👌🏽 they make me want to become a better person and help drive this country forward

[@sibusisokhoza871]

Eitah daar....Another supaaa discussion Penuel.👏👏👏The Rob & others are willing to help; and that is good to hear. It look like now is the time to hold hands and venture different business spaces that will built this country of ours. Most of the Politicians narrative is poisonous and suppressive to us. We truly need to hold hands, and allow those like Mr. Hersov(s) and (willing) Black Businesses to assist us in giving direction(s) and mentoring us in re-opening businesses that were closed (i.e. Clothing Factories, etc.) or start new businesses in small scales. Big up to U again, Penuel. If possible, sivakashele nase malokishini or sitshele ukuthi utholakalaphi la kuboniswana khona ngama-ideas.🙏

[@Siyambonga_Mbasane]

You know he is genuine when he could choose to live comfortably in a first world country but chooses to be part of reviving a struggling SA economy .

[@willx8422]

False. Black people are so brainwashed. In England, United States, Switzerland or Australia, he would NOT have the same socio-economic advantages he has as a white man living in Africa. He would just be another middle class businessman. The people living comfortably in first world countries are aristocrats

[@phelelaninkabinde8522]

I don't know if you know this but this man lives in CPT/Stellenbosch which is one of the best places to live in, in the world. Basically his still living in the first world luxury, nothing has changed. Also there's too much wealth in SA for white people to leave, the opportunities are endless all you need is access and he has that access and that is why he will never leave.

[@devol_1]

^^ How do you get access to that wealth as a black person ? This is a serious question btw

[@phelelaninkabinde8522]

@@devol_1 well firstly you have to be close to the powers that be... basically what I'm tryna say is, it's all about your environment and who you know. It's very hard to access any knowledge about wealth when you live in an environment like a township where millionaires aren't accessible. A good example of having access is Penuel, he has access to Hersov and the chances of him landing financial assistant for a business venture are very high just by his association with the guy for example. There are many other ways to access wealth but having access to a mentor like Hersov is one way for example.

[@LionelMessi_10-d1l]

Lol... there is money here that's why, don't get it twisted

[@bavannaicker4466]

Love the reference to Maslow's hierarchy of needs. When those who have reached self actualization, and who extend a helping hand to those, who are still struggling at the bottom rungs of the hierarchy, then you know they have truly "actualized". Rob appears to be one such person. Because he gives a "damn" about the beloved country Loved the way Pen, conducted the conversation. He is a very intelligent and refreshing, young man and I'm hoping that , the majority of the young people of this country would catch his "fire". Where he's at, at the moment, is way beyond the malignant rhetoric, the obsolete paradigms, the failed ideologies and the emotive and destructive chants, that takes us nowhere pretty swiftly. So a big shout out to both you worthy gentlemen. Hoping there are going to be more and frequent pockets of constructive engagements like this one, spontaneously, occurring, across the republic which would turn our country right side up.

[@rmbraun51]

I am a South African living in Australia. I was once walking in Milnerton with a friend and his dog. In front of us was a woman with a dog. The dog made a big pile. The woman walked on leaving the poo on the beach. My friend had asked me many times about the difference between Australia and South Africa. I said to him. In Australia, we would have pulled out a poo bag and put the poo into the bin. However there is a sting to this tale. You see, everywhere you go in the World shit happens. In Australia, we hide it away in the bin. In South Africa, it's in your face.

[@nocturnalrainbows6167]

Very well said

[@RSVPrr]

lol that's funny

[@modsa8901]

Quite brilliant Robin. Truly. So simple and "in your face". Pity you left SA. The country needs people like you - with logic, common sense and integrity

[@thapelotsotetsi8434]

Love this episode, really enjoyed it Rob is intelligent. I think Penuel needs to let His guest finish their thought without interrupting. But overall beautiful 👏🏿

[@matimbabaloyi2585]

Keep doing what you are doing big man,I loved your conversation with Rob.

[@Pfumoreropa]

Mind blowing! Well done Penuel

[@carl4017]

I really hope we can turn this country around🇿🇦 I’m voting for change!

[@itumelengrammike3872]

Finally we have someone who proudly accepts in public that he is rich and it's a wrong thing, Big respects to Rob on rebuilding South Africa

[@stlouisix3]

Being rich is good☦⚜✝

[@lu881]

There's something to be said about South Africa. South Africa is a unique country in that, it raises rich people that want to make a difference, whereas America just has a culture of profit at all costs. I like how sincere this guy is, and how involved he is in wanting to fight for this country.

[@Rbb0828]

Rich philanthropy was once considered a unique American phenomena. You don’t know American history.

[@pieterduplessis6906]

@@Rbb0828 Not even Americans know their own history. And we always seem to put forward an overly optimistic version of history. And seeing that we are living here, American history is irrelevant. What is coming out of there CURRENTLY is much much worse.

[@cassiousmodise6]

Great show,great guest,great conversation. Well done pen👍👍

[@aviweguzana2129]

What a show so insightful and sharp-witted, the type of conversations we need.

[@mogadimetsosanele2285]

Rob makes me happy when he says that he grew up in a wealthy family so unapologetically. We only ever hear of people who made it coming from disadvantaged families and sometimes people make us, who come from well-off families, feel like we are spoiled brats and do not deserve our success. We are also people who want to become independent and create our own prosperity.

[@diresithole4322]

That is the content we need and hardly hear about , discussing real issues . big up Brother Penuel 👌

[@mbusosiera1648]

Great interview, we need Herman Mashaba on South Africa ,Politics and Entrepreneurship

[@thamiduma2925]

Done i think, check on KZbin

[@s.tkhanyile9743]

One of the best interview i have watched🙌. Thank you very much 🙏

[@mphomofokeng871]

Black Pen, you doing a great job man. I love, admire and enjoy what you’ve brought to this world of podcasting and internet. Thank you for always willing to share information and knowledge. This interview was awesome, enjoyed it very much.

[@mzothulezulu1998]

Great conversation. Thank you for the honesty Rob.

[@johnpress6811]

Rob I have watched your meetings and you are an amazing forward looking person. And this particular session is particularly important. At 82 years old, I wud still like to contribute to the success of South Africa. I spent 35 yrs of life training and educating people in 3 different industries, I vote DA not sure how to go about contributing. 3 of my 4 children have left SA only 1 daughter still here

[@lethiwesithole]

Thank you God Pen for this interview, it’s amazing how we can judge someone by just their skin colour without hearing them speak, I believe it’s because of the propaganda we have been fed over years which has been planted to try and divide us, when you can listen to the person and just hear what they have to say, you realise you are more alike than what you have been told. We needed to hear from Rob, and we need to hear from many others like him, that is how we build a better future based on values not skin colour.

[@_theerealnono_7694]

Well said.

[@Bakwe2]

This is refreshing, the fact that humans can conversate about real issues that affect everyone irrespective of their color. We are so caught up in race in SA that we fail to even appreciate honest conversation.

[@Fraseri]

This is my favourite interview so far. Really enlightening

[@thandoguntermankayi3613]

What a grateful conversation i feel honored you are mentally changing life's Its about time for blacks to evolve and unite with other race and stop using the race card mode.

[@brianridley3557]

Thank you Pen for a great interview. I agree with Rob, now is the time to start agitating. Get the conversation going, make our young people think of what they want for their future and how they will get it? I agree with both of you, enough is enough. This is the first of your shows that I've watched. I look forward to catching. Thanks for being a light...

[@Irnest]

Great interview @the penuel show - you managed to bring out very good points and great discussion. Looking forward to hearing more about these kinds of topics. Keep it up!

[@mbuyiselombuyazi8096]

This is very infromative and eye opening, hopefully we can have more platforms like this that provoke the kind of thought that helps move our country forward these guys are both true patriots of our nation and want the same bright future for our country yet they are not of one race truly inspiring.

[@schlix101]

Black, White, Brown, Indian (EVERYONE)... Let's pull together and make SA great again!!! Yes, we have our differences............. but we also have our similarities! We can dwell on our past and be forever hateful towards each other! Or we can look to the future together and make this place one of the greatest in the WORLD!!! Let's make this the Rainbow Nation it was meant to be!

[@pikswart6844]

The irony is that most MINORITY communities have been doing this for years, a generation of menial workers gave birth to generations of professionals, barring a few that want to hold on to a victim mentality and blame everything and everyone else, my parents were discrimated against under apartheid and then still discriminated against in a "democracy" but that never stopped us from doing our greater community in doing our best. We don't care what others think or say about us we just get on with the job. Live as a conscious citizen

[@pieterduplessis6906]

Listening to this man, one can see hope for our beautiful country. His platform gives one a glimpse of what can be. And is this not where everything starts???

[@CharlesCohen-l3p]

Rob. You are good for white morale. Nevertheless my take is that you are a whitey talking whitey language to whiteys. That’s the problem

[@hasamatt]

Amazing platform! Great interview. Well done Pen!

[@legalitetongue3276]

Beautiful interview. Fantastic soul -- Mr. Hersov. May the universe conspire in your favour! And Penuel, your podcast rocks! Keep it up!

[@stamonmakhuvele]

Big up to Rob hey, such inspiring conversation

[@gstar3569]

Just found your channel... more power to you. Im an instant fan! :) Lets be on the right side of history and support Rob and others fighting for the people of RSA!

[@vuyolwethumpembela9925]

I used to have negative vibes when it comes to white capitalists but my perspective changed after following this guy Rob damn he changed my attitude he's a Goat. Very few of his kind are this generous in sharing their recipes for success , his even open in offering mentoring he has a platform for that

[@alanfanaroff124]

Huge respect for both of you Well Done guys

[@bilderberggg]

Reading Meditations by Marcus Aurelius got me hooked. Ryan Holiday got me addicted to it and reading Seneca,Cato has changed me forever,thanks for bringing Stoicism up.

[@justinmuller8352]

Thank you for this amazing interview. This gives me hope for our county.

[@kapoea3147]

Great conversation and hope more of these are taken heed of within a proudly South African context. Excited to see what sorts of projects your collaboration comes up with and do hope that you also include the voices of the uneducated which the majority of South Africans speak as a voice of. The old cliché of hearing what only the educated have to say, in my opinion, stifles the raw talent available in South Africa as the so called educated have been trained to think and act within a certain paradigm and afraid to colour out of the lines to actually bring about prosperity or change.