People Are Moving (Back) to This Deadly Wildfire Site

[@fredr6587]

Lol as a Brazilian I just can't understand the people in America who brag about "the government shouldn't interfere on private contracts and such", people complain that here in Brazil the "judicial system" intervenes a lot, but the way the House Insurance and Health insurance companies deals with the ordinary people in U.S. is crap. The guy on 5:51 misses a single month and the insurance company don't cover his losses, this is absurd. Here in Brazil the "Superior Federal Court (that is differente from the Supreme Court) made parametrers about how insurance works. It's common to the contract to self renovate after 12 months, and if u don't pay a month or so the COMPANY NEEDS TO SEND YOU A LETTER AND NOTIFIES YOU THAT YOU'RE LATE ON A BILL, and THEN NEEDS TO GIVE YOU 30 DAYS TO PAY THAT, only after that period they can end the contract and not cover your losses. But if have an accident on that 30 day period, they need to cover (and you need to pay it), and it's THEIR JOB to PROVE that THEY NOTIFIED YOU. It's a matter of god faith, you can't expect that every one is not going to have an extraordinary event where they forget or don't have the money to pay on that month. That said, imagine you have a insurance for a period of 12 months, and you need to pay that monthly, if you pay 8 months, don't pay the 9th and then sh*t happens, the company can't say "ohh no we won't cover his losses, after all he didn't pay the 9th check" I mean WTF. After watching many decisions on courts on the U.S. it's obvious to me that judicial system is rigged from the ground up to keep those scummy companies prey on the weak part of a contract. And I see some americans like "ohh the market regulates itself, both parts are equal", yeah, one is a multimillion dollar company and the other part is an average joe, don't you think there should be at least some "advantages/protection" by the government/judicial system on the weaker side?

[@bookbeing]

Well said! I hope many read and learn from your post.

[@daniellee9763]

Insurance companies are the devil

[@izang5800]

I didnt read it all but they likely gave him a cancellation notice of at least 2 weeks. He didnt pay by the cancellation notice date. He had plenty of time and plenty of warning. Its like the electricity bill. They dont turn it off the second you are late. It takes a few weeks and a few notices. With insurance usually you are "ahead" of your coverage date by a few weeks. When you first sign up you make a payment covering you 3 to 4 weeks ahead..so when you are "late" on a payment you have coverage for andel few weeks. Bad timing to not pay. Upside is he can build his own home for cheaper and he has good work for several years

[@kalui96]

It's simple. Brain rot. I have a theory about lead pipes, lead fuel, lead paint, and all other harmful chemicals white people love to use and abuse til their kids are all autistic... but I might be wrong on that

[@chexmix0101]

Yup same for health care insurance. Imagine being a healthy person who has minimal medical issues paying 20+ years and missing one payment, all that money went to waste.

[@TrentenHiggins]

I lived about 20-30 minutes from paradise at the time. Woke up that day feeling like I was in a dream because it was a strange reddish twilight at 8 in the morning. Ended up lasting for weeks, and it would rain ash like silent Hill. It was truly insane.

[@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm]

I honestly think there was something suspicious about the camp fires. From what I saw it makes absolutely no sense how the engine block of a car would be burned yet the bush right next to the car was completely fine. 🤔

[@joshboss5962]

Grass Valley here. Was truly horrifying driving through Paradise afterwards as a service man for that area.

[@nickm4974]

@@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm don't ask questions Close your third eye.. Getting people out of rural areas and in Cities is a big plan of The elite

[@nickm4974]

I was in SF during that time and the sky was red also

[@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm]

@@nickm4974 Did you take that last comment down or was it KZbin? Can't expose the elite on a mainstream platform like this.👁️

[@jacksonong2576]

This is honestly terrifying seeing so many people with the attitude of “oh it won’t happen again”. I’m sure nobody ever expected paradise to be burnt to the ground the first time. I totally get not wanting to leave a place that’s your home, but to build back in the exact same way without any thought of the threat of future blazes is illogical! I don’t understand how you can survive something as horrific as that and simply have the attitude of “we’ll be fine now”. This poor community

[@DR-54]

no the mentality is that natural disasters happen if you don't live somewhere where you've personally faced wildfires then your perspective of what should be done is likely false

[@jacksonong2576]

@@DR-54 I understand the mentality but the reality is natural disasters don’t happen everywhere and with this kind of intensity. This is going to happen again, and building back without any planning for future events is what is scary. I live in Australia and our country faces these extreme fire threats too. I can tell you now the number one thing on my mind when I go to buy a home is always going to be what threats this area faces from natural disasters. Seeing people lose everything this way is terrifying and I would never want to be naive to the dangers of natural disasters and lose everything I own because of it

[@googiegress]

Well every time it happens there'll be fewer people who say it won't happen again.

[@Thecardiffkook]

Sure there will be more fires in paradise but because it burned so recently there won’t be enough fuel for a fire of the Camp Fires magnitude for a decade or two

[@JustOneAsbesto]

Welcome to Earth, Mr. Alien. That's what humans do. We've spent about 100,000 years perfecting the art of wilful ignorance. We're pretty good at it.

[@johnnyc.3261]

6:30 this man is in denial. He thinks that the fires won’t be back. Welcome to climate change, its definitely coming back sooner than a hundred years, I give him maybe a hundred days.

[@jponz85]

Not only that... insurances seem to not want to insure houses there anymore.

[@KellyPashade]

Its called land management.

[@robosbabydoll]

My family lived in Paradise for 67 years. Never had anything like this happen here before. It's easy to say that you would'nt move back to an area after something tragic happens, but when it's the only place you know as home, you'd feel differently. The military took us away from home 18 years ago, but it's still home. We plan to retire in Paradise/Magalia. But, I tell ya what I am tired of seeing is "Gentrification Homes" pop up all over Paradise now. Housing is becoming unaffordable in our small little town. It wasn't before the fire. Watching predatory Contractors come in and screw people over, it's sad. The Paradise Town Council & Mayor need to do better to protect Paradisians cost of living expenses. I'm glad that the powerlines are going underground. We need to make sure PG&E updates all of their faulty equipment too! To any Paradisians reading this... I hope you're doing okay and please go enjoy some LaComida Chicken Tostadas or Meehos Super Nachos for me!! 🤘🏼🥰🤘🏼

[@whocanseeyourname2699]

Yummmmm meehos is the best Born and raised in paradise

[@SinisterScoundrel6562]

No I would feel differently. Too many painful memories. I go mental if I stayed.

[@xerxezrax]

it's surprising that the town hasn't passed laws that encourage fire-resistant home building

[@deohasslehoff956]

Yeah that must be cheap

[@moneybilla]

That would be retarded just as the first reply states 🤣

[@JosephKulik2016]

Dear anon: The reason why such laws will Never be enacted Anywhere in America is because it would be bad for Big Business, and they won't allow their Paid Stooges in government to do it. Just remember that Capitalism Always values Financial Profit over Human Life. ALWAYS !!!

[@anneg.weaver7749]

I'm from Paradise but do not live there since the Fire. There are new codes in place. Houses must have sprinkler systems installed, wooden fences must have steel framing, and there are other requirements and other incentives to do even more. I'm not saying they are doing it right but there is an imperative for those who are bound to stay to rebuild and get back into stable housing ( a 5th wheel or trailer is not) to build what they can get into in a timely and within budget constraints. Many of our insurance companies are a nightmare to deal with and get them to pay out so that they can rebuild. Many can only afford manufactured homes. When you drive up there you will see mansions and manufactured homes almost side by side. Paradise was a hodge podge from the beginning. Manufactured homes, old farm style, then the doctors' homes that were/are palacial.

[@Dispo030]

mandating fire-safe building is communism!!1! mandated single family zoning isn't. that's America.

[@Mips_2024]

As someone who studies wildfires, it's a complex mix of factors that bring people to return to a wildfire-prone area. Between 2000-2018, nearly 15 fires burned in or nearby the Camp Fire Perimeter, casting doubt on the ideas that this is a one-off event. While risk from disasters *is* everywhere, there is a big difference between building in a place where a high-damage low-probability event (earthquake) might occur and the California Foothills, where there are high-damage high-likelihood wildfires. Ultimately, the variables that influence the decision to stay or go differ between families - do they have the money to build elsewhere? Are there too many fond memories to leave? Do they have family nearby that can watch children? Ultimately, the reasons for staying or leaving are complex, but people should take care when they casually conflate hurricanes on the other side of the continent with wildfires, or ignore the hard-learned lessons of recent years.

[@zkring]

Well said. I believe real estate agent was the main person conflating hurricanes with wildfires. She obviously has a vested interest in people buying and prices rising.

[@streamlabssupport266]

STUDY WILDFIRE?????????????????

[@streamlabssupport266]

PHD IN WILD FIRES??????

[@Mips_2024]

@@streamlabssupport266 Yes, as it turns out. Although there are other things that I study alongside the fires themselves.

[@streamlabssupport266]

@@Mips_2024 BACHELOR IN WILDFIRE???

[@thewholeworldisbeautiful]

The non-combustible house is beautiful who wouldn't want a house like that.

[@scottjones8406]

No such thing buddy

[@IWantToBelieve1]

@@scottjones8406 bullshit

[@the_notorious_bas]

The big plus is that it's design provides safety, but it only has small windows at the front and maybe on the rear, so it's def a different experience.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@the_notorious_bas My guess is that the rooms are set up on either side, so they get some light

[@timothyletwin5911]

As long as there isn't anything combustible within 150ft of the non-combustible house.

[@BSPKtube]

I was born and grew up in paradise I now live 40 minutes away (due to the fire) and I can tell you first hand the only people who are moving back are people who where either extremely well off when the fire happened and got a large amount of insurance money or people who moved in with family and put their PGE lawsuit money together to buy a modular home. Everyone else is either in Magalia (just outside paradise) or Oroville/chico and the ones that didn't stay in California are in other states with family.

[@anneg.weaver7749]

As a former Paradise resident, I agree

[@wegohamm7]

Yea im right down the hill and it's all these sf type ppl now dam shame

[@admirationlakes8994]

@@anneg.weaver7749 I wish v i c e would do a story covering the origin of the ajenda-Twenty-1 (then and now). India is very privy to that proposed plan ... and has been working relentlessly to ensure their agricultural independence since it's inception.

[@admirationlakes8994]

@@wegohamm7 there are vids on the web (sorry, if I try to post l inks it will likely get deleted by the Al gore rythm ). one can find demonstrations of the various types of direct Dee E W (DEW) which currently are in existence

[@admirationlakes8994]

when the Tubbs and the Nun fire(s) broke out, we opened our home to friends and friends of friends......one thing in common was the talk about those crazzzzy high/speedy winds. more than just the santa ana type winds. and, you know, it was the same thing in paradise when it all went down

[@bakeddulce5451]

The contractor guy really didn't learn a thing. Just done speaking about losing his home but then calls it unnecessary to build with concrete, fire proof material. I lived in apt that got so many cracks after an earthquake, wondering in the back of my mind if another one hits if the upstairs will collapse on us. Was so glad to move into an apt later on that had steel foundation to prevent such things. Building with disaster proof material should be standard by now.

[@teague9910]

A) Still in a fire-prone area. B) Insurance for homes is probably insanely high for the value.

[@johnsnow5955]

"It wont happen again" Tell your insurance premium that LOL

[@katelynchanslorfineart572]

These wealthy people just pay the high premium. It’s one of the most disgusting parts. We see it in floods. Handing out a quarter mil for some old farts second home and next door is a young family who is without. Building these houses where it’s definitely going to flood and saying eff you to everybody else is why normal people can’t afford it.

[@johnsnow5955]

@@katelynchanslorfineart572 500k homes in California isn't wealthy fam.. LOL

[@jessiec1194]

Lately fire is being removed from coverages, same as they did for earthquake.

[@MMOStars]

They live in wooden houses, they get burned down, they keep building houses from wood again in the same area. Fantastic choice people.

[@PushyPawn]

That man really thinks this was only a 1 in a 100 year event.

[@johnsnow5955]

I mean the same guy didn't even have home insurance sooooo gonna go with not the sharpest pencil

[@jjordanbaird]

I’ve visited there a handful of times since the camp fire went through (and many times before). It is a 1/100 year event. It will take at least that long to have that much build up again. There are very few trees in that area, and before they were EVERYWHERE, touching just about every house. The quantity of buildup that they had there prior to the fire can’t be overstated.

[@jacksonong2576]

@@jjordanbaird it might take decades for that kind of buildup to happen again, but another fire could EASILY happen much sooner than 100 years, even if it’s not as extreme. Only 2 years the initial fire paradise was under threat again in the 2020 fires. An inferno like 2018 might not be as frequent but fires are going to happen here again.

[@robertbrown8896]

@@jacksonong2576 Only 2 years later...under the fire threat again...Yep. Why? Because BOTH of those fires were caused by PG&E conscious neglect. Fires in Northern Ca. Do some research. Look up how many fires they have caused even, just in the years they have been on Felony Probation for blowing up a block with gas in San Bruno. Odds of more fires? As long as they remain in business.....

[@ragdump]

Dream on I live 3.5 miles from the start since 2008 I've gone through 4 Mega fires

[@UngoyPrime]

It’s smart to build a combustible home in a area with a history of fire outbreaks…🙈

[@J_Clean_1996]

I think that it's good to have reinforced cement homes in places that have that many Mex*cans.

[@ykMMD]

@@J_Clean_1996 Damn, don't cut yourself on that edge boi

[@bachvandals3259]

@@J_Clean_1996 like your own comment? Lol thats a new low

[@kaligrownbudz6200]

Some idiots in this world are just a glutton for punishment😂 They just never learn.

[@J_Clean_1996]

@@bachvandals3259 This one too.

[@type14film]

Her assumption that everywhere in the US has severe climate risk so you might as well live there is so dangerous. And so completely false.

[@oceandrop7666]

Yep, she's a salesman though so she's BSing like they all do.

[@krazykyfan]

You are correct. I live in south Georgia where we COULD get hit by a hurricane. However, I've lived here over 13 years now and we have had one storm that was bad enough to knock out our power, but certainly wasn't strong enough to destroy my home. California seems to be one giant tinderbox, where nearly every community that is near forest is at risk of wildfire year after year. We rarely see hurricanes here - even in the coastal communities. There is a huge difference in what she said and what reality is.

[@ragdump]

Paradise is not a risk anymore

[@michaelarrowood4315]

@@ragdump Not until people let the pines and the vegetation grown up again, or build wooden fences that touch their homes. The Sierra Nevada foothills areas like Paradisse and Megalia and Concow traditionally had 40 ponderosa pines / acre, as wildfire and Native-set fire kept the area clear. Modern methods of living created areas with 10 times as many trees in some areas. The Camp Fire tragedy resulted in part from decades of overgrowth. Paradise won't be a "risk" anymore until it changes the ways it builds, clears and maintains vigilance.

[@MiZZVMN]

@@krazykyfanI live in CA where we could get a fire but I have never had a fire.

[@katem2411]

It's just weird to me that people building don't realize that these wildfires are not just a one off and build accordingly. Also, the towns/cities in wildfire zones don't make fire resistant building materials a mandatory part of their building codes.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

They're also in low water zones. Building accordingly doesn't give you water

[@SirEnzo371]

Is it really that weird lol? People are constantly building on ocean fronts of the gulf regardless of how many hurricanes happen. People with money will take the opportunity to build cheap.

[@kylegray3838]

its very hard for forest fires to reburn the same area as there usually isnt much left.....

[@noneneed]

I was there that day, spent my whole life up there. It'll never be the same

[@oACE20o]

i will never forget that day paradise was lost. i did not live there at the time i moved to chico where things was more easy for me. My family tho did live in paradise. hours and hours went by before i got word they was safe and ok. but sadly every house i lived in and house i spent my teenage years in all burned up. it still hurts today when i drive thru just remembering what it once looked like.

[@scottlaakso9372]

Just insanity. Who, in their right mind, would pay 400k plus to live in a wildfire prone area?

[@neeneko]

'always a risk'? Yeah,.. I live in an area of the east coast where 'risk' is low enough that my 180 year old home is not even the oldest one on the block. While all areas have some form of risk, that does not mean they are all equal. But the person is a realtor, so their primary motivation is trying to downplay risk factors to get a sale.

[@ryanlove7150]

I feel their pain. We just had a bad fire here in Aromas California. Burned the forest down around us and melted our water tank for the house and the shed that the pump was in burned down. Haven't had running water in about a week now and since my family and I raise lots of different animals we are having to fill up big water jugs at the neighbors house and carry them to each of the animals to keep them watered. Still trying to clean up and it's just devastating. My heart goes out to all the victims of wildfires.

[@stevenbrooks1243]

Hope you can get back up and going Ryan

[@ryanlove7150]

@@stevenbrooks1243 thanks brother. It's been one bad thing after another. Just found out my dad has cancer, my younger brother got sent to a mental institution cuz he got messed up in the air force, my woman left me for some wannabe gangster/pedophile and now this fire. I just need a break. The universe is kicking my ass in all directions. This is just too much!

[@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm]

🙏 Sending love and prayers ☮️

[@ryanlove7150]

@@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm thank you brother!

[@ryanlove7150]

@@BreakOutOfTheAlgorithm I need all the love and prayers and good energy I could get right now!

[@MS-qc3rh]

CA should buy these people out and return the land to nature. It will be increasingly unsustainable to live in these areas as warmer, dryer seasons continue to lengthen and water scarcity intensifies. It’s irresponsible to expect fire fighters and emergency response to continue to put their lives on the line unnecessarily.

[@abab1388]

Disgusting that these vultures are asking $500K for these little shacks in the middle of nowhere.

[@TrilogyNjStorm]

even worst where win at central jersey and in by the water beach homes they were u know people r asking and getting 300+

[@veganpotterthevegan]

If they were $300k, even more idiots would move there. Those houses should cost double as a deterrent

[@TrilogyNjStorm]

@@veganpotterthevegan I have lived here for 41 years and yes by the water the ones THAT FACE THE WATER AND HAVE, 3 -4 FLOORS BALCONY FACE IN THE WATER YES THOSE GO FOR FOUR FIVE SIX SEVEN EVEN BUT THE BUNGALOW HOME THAT MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF LAURENCE HARBOR AND CLIFFWOOD BEACH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FROM HERE THOSE WERE BOUGHT THE 100,000 AND LESS 80,000 AND WE'RE TALKING IN 1990 SO YES NOW THEY ARE 3-350 which is crazy they are bungalow homes some have basements one floor two bedrooms one bath again not by the water and not all the houses that are facing the water are getting that type of money cuz it's the ones that have the extra floor or have the balcony or have more property cuz again bungalow homes very little property

[@squidwardo7074]

California for ya. You should see SF

[@Tsukonin]

It's the market price, they won't willingly sell to a loss because the buyer will make profit off of it by selling it immediately at market price. The problem is zoning laws in the US, which only allow in most cases to build single family detached houses, with plenty of restrictions. That's why most of the housing in the US is made of overpriced shacks in the middle of nowhere.

[@michaelbowers451]

Every single day my head is filled with thoughts of paradise and moving back, raising my kids in my old stomping grounds, camping, fishing, shooting, days at the river, cutting down xmas trees every year up in the snow, drive down the hill to chico for weekend races. I can say 100% if money wasnt a factor id move back today.

[@greyfells2829]

Hubris, we should stop wasting public resources fighting these fires that threaten only spoiled families who insist on living in a fire zone.

[@Keepskatin]

Facts, only wealthy privileged people can live there, let nature take its course

[@liamsire]

you have no idea what you are talking about. hubris? you got that right.

[@madeinthegetto]

Literally like booo hooo your million dollar home burnt down while you’re a slumlord leeching off actual hard workers

[@MrKFess]

Spoiled? They didn't choose to be born in that town. These are real communities. They aren't living out there just because.

[@rickson50]

@SolBronzed those places don't get destroyed like this because they adapt to the environment and build different. It's why we collectively made fun of the hurricane Katrina incident afterwards. It's because of how they built a seaside city below sea level.

[@ernsthaft919]

US citizens realizing there are non-wooden houses that can withstand fires and hurricanes: 😧

[@pulse3732]

God I love my country, for the amount of humor it provides lol

[@sebg6865]

But then you can’t complain about it and Americans love that

[@FCM415]

Yea but Northern California is an earthquake Hotspot also

[@Lancaster22]

The real estate lady saying, “ if it’s not fires it’s hurricanes or flooding” is just so untrue for most of the United States. Natural disasters are a low risk for like 75% of the land in the US

[@cancerino666]

Shes there to sell and make money, not speak the truth

[@MiZZVMN]

That’s actually very false. Natural disasters happen everywhere.

[@h.r.hufnstuf4171]

There are entire towns in Queensland Australia that flood pretty much every year. Each time it happens the people are waist deep in water being interviewed on TV all like "I cant believe this happened again" its kind of funny

[@Barnabas555]

Kinda like building towns in deserts and then scream the water is running out like in the US...then they'll expect bailouts cuz thats what out of control govt does !

[@Machead92]

Worked up in paradise for years clearing trees for PG&E right up to the Camp fire, it was devastating to see this but it wasn't surprising. PG&E neglected the fire hazards their power lines presented up there for years and we had safety meeting daily regarding those fire hazards but PG&E rather save money and put more money in their pockets then the safety of their customers.

[@gocynthia]

ya but any little thing was going to set off the fire. if not pg&e, it would've been something else soon enough. it's too dangerous to live there.

[@whiskeykilmer1866]

Into the greedy shareholders pockets.

[@dormantmenace]

@@gocynthia no neither fire nore forresty was allowed to do the maintenance required either. My son in law went to the butte fire academy 20 minutes away at the time. Said they constantly informed how bad it was. And wete constantly told no by the county. Said it was extremely disheartening.

[@bakeraus]

Come to Australia, this is normal for us every year. It's insane being in a wild fire or living near one, they are very hard to stop or even slow down if it's dry enough. You should at least put in a small underground bunker with supplies so you can save lives.

[@CountryLivingOnTheFarm]

What a stupid comment made by the guy who is asking the questions. Why move in a high risk area where wildfires are common?! First of all…Paradise has been around for decades and this was the first time a fire went through the town. So it’s not like it happens every year. Second of all, the fire in Paradise was NOT a natural disaster. The camp fire was man made. PGE is actually the responsible party. And Paradise Magalia areas is a beautiful place to live. Can’t wait for the trees 🌲 to grow back!! It’s what makes the place beautiful!! Trees 🌲 🌲 trees 🌲 Trees

[@jazz3799]

I will never understand how someone can go through a tragedy, lose everything on a whim of fate- and then turn around and say that precautions are “kinda unnecessary”. There are so many ways to build more sustainably, and one of the best things about humans is our ability to learn from our mistakes. Imagine if they had continue building bridges and high rises in California the same way after the 94’ earthquake. That 7.0 two years ago would have been devastating. Why do we treat this differently?

[@robertbrown8896]

"whim of fate". What is that? The "whim" was the conscience neglect and profit over safety of PG&E.

[@jazz3799]

@@robertbrown8896 It’s literally just an expression. Also, if the fire was caused by the negligence of an electricity company they should have covered that in the video. Instead they said- out of control campfire, strong winds and previous years of drought caused the fire. Therefore: my comment about the whims of fate. Thanks to your reply I will now see if I can find a video about negligence being behind this fire.

[@SUPPORTYOURSELF]

Respect to the construction worker, rebuilding other's lives and his own. His perseverance is commendable.

[@Dispo030]

Same can be said about his idiocy. He WILL lose everything a second time, being unable and unwilling to adapt to the threats.

[@SUPPORTYOURSELF]

@@Dispo030 highly doubtful. It will take a lifetime, or more, for that forest to grow back to the point of being a fire danger.

[@handledeeznutz109]

@@Dispo030 L

[@timothyhunter4724]

A genius enables other geniuses.

[@rubegoldburg7841]

INSANITY Is : Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results 🔥🔥🔥

[@MirceaKitsune]

"We simply couldn't get enough of the fun we had last time, so we decided to rebuild in the exact same spot hoping we're not too late for this year's fire"

[@brittenyevans1101]

I knew it was paradise, when I saw the thumbnail . I’m happy they’re rebuilding.

[@geraniaceae4470]

People knowingly buy ocean front homes that will eventually slide into the ocean. They buy homes in Florida where areas are prone to flooding due to land sinkage.

[@ryefry]

I'm moving to Cali in the next year, and I'm planning to build with steel. Fire has never been in the area, but I'm planning ahead.

[@dixsy_9779]

buy sprinklers, can't count how many photos i've seen of homes untouched because people had sprinklers running around the house when a wildfire came by.

[@psychose911]

What @dixsy said about the sprinklers is an extremely good idea, building with Steel doesn't seem too smart as it can get anywhere from 105F-120F during summer depending on where you are. It'd cost an absurd amount to get meaningful insulation and air conditioning though I don't doubt it's possible it'd just be a lot smarter to go for brick or other materials I'd feel like.

[@tananario]

Steel can melt, doofus.

[@Fenixswe]

Clay might be good

[@MrKFess]

Manage your vegetation.

[@barcelonachair6487]

The insurance companies just need to deny insurance for homeowners not willing to build a fire proof home in a documented wildfire area. Or the city should not grant a building permit for the same reason. Firefighters should not have risk their lives for a known target. Some people have to live in denial to survive, others don't have to die for it.

[@moonmaiden4197]

I was born here. I can’t believe we made it to Vice!!!! Ptown stand up! 🤗

[@nikkigriffin08]

I love this comment, I don't live anywhere near there, I just adore how stoked you are about your hometown making it on Vice bcz I would and have felt the exact same way before lol

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@nikkigriffin08 if your town goes up in flames, you may get to enjoy being a topic of Vice too!!!

[@cancerino666]

@@veganpotterthevegan yaaaaaay!

[@moonmaiden4197]

@@veganpotterthevegan it’s not really “my town” because I was just born there and raised in a different town but it definitely has a special place in my heart. Luckily I didn’t lose any property or loved ones. Others weren’t so lucky. 💔 please be kind there are others who lost everything in the comments section

[@veganpotterthevegan]

@@moonmaiden4197 living in a place like that is choosing to lose everything you have. Like an idiot doing irresponsible things on a motorcycle through traffic

[@in2thewild]

I lived here d during the fire. My son was born in Paradise as well. Paradise will always be home!

[@evangreenberg1666]

Was a junior at chico state when the campfire happened. I had an 8am that morning and the sky looked like a sunset at 8am. I didn't know it was a fire at the time. Had classes till 12pm and by then all classes were canceled remainder of the week and I had a 2 week long vacation. It was crazy. Went back a week after the beginning of the fire to get some stuff and it was grey and raining ash in the middle of the day. Super scary stuff

[@berri5769]

It sucks that not everyone is able to to rebuild their home.

[@unemployedrobots]

Cheers to the locals who can rebuild for sure I can not even imagine. 🙏🏽👊🏽

[@unemployedrobots]

@Joe yes absolutely 👊🏽

[@JustOneAsbesto]

This has nothing to do with affordability. Affordability was never mentioned. It's not an issue here, these people are rich.

[@whoisDianaaa]

In the beginning they said home prices have gotten higher in the last 3 years.

[@baconstrips6260]

@Joe That means people can not live there anymore🤯. But people like you can't be reasoned with.

[@baconstrips6260]

Yeah.... Isn't it so sad when people that own $500,000 houses live in a fire prone area, due to droughts since for ever. Those poor, poor, rich people! And they are rebuilding. Fu*k a single drop of sympathy for people like this that have done so well in life and can still remain this ignorant.

[@IBD611]

For a location trying to rebuild high prices keeps that process delaying.

[@rmcq1999]

I lived in Cockatoo, Victoria, Australia for a few years. It's a town that was completely razed by the 1983 Ash Wednesday fires. The house I rented was built on the rubble of the previous build, which was newly built in 1983. The owners built it and the fires destroyed it soon after. So they had it bulldozed and built another house on top. Summers in that town were something else. I'm glad I moved on, it was a worry being in such a fire prone area. Always checking fire information websites and double checking that warning sms messages were activated. My place was surrounded by a white mountain ash grove. Trees that perpetuate via fire.

[@Linaluvv000]

One of the victims here. House was in the hottest point in the fire, i still have issues today. Watching this video was hard, one of the clips was my aunts house and that was my cousins bike. I love these videos

[@thedownwardmachine]

Funny how they could build resistant to fire but they just choose not to. Yeah there are disasters everywhere but people build with them in mind, at least when they’re smart. “It won’t happen again.” With that attitude, he guarantees it will.

[@bookbeing]

Sometimes it's not that they don't want to use more fire safe materials but the local zoning and code requirements prohibit this or they make it so costly and painfully time intensive having to deal with the bureaucracy and endless fees, to obtain variances and special allowances that normal people can't afford it so they're stuck with regular wood balloon framing despite the fact that there are better ways. Code enforcement, zoning and planning can and do make these alternatives and better building solutions that would otherwise offer greater value to the homeowner next to impossible. For example in my area to get some variance to do alternatives building it's $5,000 just to write your plan and have it presented to some unknown City employee who will either give you a yes or no and your fee is non-refundable so it's like a $5,000 gamble to see if you can even get started before you can even break ground or mortar two blocks together.

[@thedownwardmachine]

@@bookbeing I agree, in fact I have a friend who builds cob wall structures, she deals with this exact issue, and her biggest achievements are often related to regulation changes. But in this video, the jurisdiction clearly allows for resilient construction. People even say they want a burnable home simply because it looks familiar. Technology has a fix but the problem here is social. People are strange.

[@thedownwardmachine]

@@jeremyjackson7429 Often it's the people talking about individual responsibility and who want the government off their backs who then demand the government pay for them to make the same bad decision again.

[@robertbrown8896]

@@bookbeing Great information!

[@robertbrown8896]

@@thedownwardmachine It is the Government down to the State and more that protect the company who started this fire and over a hundred more in the last years. Why won't the Government get THEM off of people's backs.

[@Ak-wv7dt]

So sorry that he lost his house, hope hes able to build one again.

[@moneybilla]

Lmfao of course hes able to build a new one dude got a insurance settlement from the last one

[@lmsorenson8503]

@@moneybilla they're probably referring to the guy w/o insurance as the fire hit... 🤷‍♂️

[@PinkAngel1111]

My Moms best friend lost her home and the community has not rebuilt yet. Some time back you could buy lots for 5 and 10k .. still scary and unsettling to live there. She seemed to think this was the only place in the US she could afford .. there are very few places in CA that we’re as affordable as Paradise once was. Sad about the gentleman with AAA homeowners insurance that didn’t cover it. I have them as well snd they allow up to 30 days of the due date. Very sad for him 💔

[@maxsmith695]

Not buying the AAA story. No excuse not a buy a policy if they canceled you.

[@sherirobinson6867]

I've lost my home to hurricane Ike.... I'm still here in a different home now... I get it

[@codyjackman5563]

The people of Lytton BC would like to have a word with that contractor regarding fire return intervals. I don’t think California’s drought situation is going to magically plateau for the next 100 years.

[@batshit_for_ACME]

I have have driven through your neck of the woods a few times, always in August. Each time, there was a fire somewhere between Hope and Cache Creek.

[@botanicalbecca8443]

My aunt, uncle & cousin lived in Paradise when I was growing up in the late 80s/90s. I remember visiting them in the winter and seeing snow for the first time- a truly magical place! So sad for all these folks, but love how committed that couple is to helping rebuild. What a strong sense of community events like this must provoke. Hopefully, California can learn from such a tragic event.

[@NaVaWiLL]

All of California is a potential wildfire risk. Like wtf is this about, this feels like very lazy journalism. It's like asking people in towns where there's tornados, why don't they make their house out of lead so it doesn't fly away. This video bothers me for some reason.

[@rickson50]

I highly doubt what you said is true

[@NaVaWiLL]

@@rickson50 lived in Cali my whole life. Literally covered with dead weeds. During the hottest weeks of the year if you look at a map of Cali that shows all current wildfires the state is covered with them. We had to get loads of firefighters to come here from out of state a couple years back because there were so many fires many went unchecked for a while due to a lack of firefighters.

[@caddyshack68]

Vice, what is the name of the insurance company that canceled the contractors policy for making a late payment?

[@womansworkproductionco]

I thought he said AAA.

[@celiajane4250]

They are building steel quonset type houses, but even steel can melt in a blazing fire. And maybe the exterior of the huts might withstand a wildfire, you certainly wouldn't want to stay inside them while a wildfire is going on. The heat would b intolerable, and many things inside the home would melt. You still have to evacuate. Your hut would be color tarnished and ugly. And from what i remember, a MAJOR problem was there was only one way in and one way out. The exit roads were inadequate, and that problem killed a lot of people.

[@admirationlakes8994]

Gov. Gav Newsum made moves with pee gee and ee ... which proved to be a huge disrespect to my peeps in Cali

[@shekharmoona544]

These structures have less exterior maintenance too. They are more wind resistant depending on how the building is faced towards wind currents.

[@thewholeworldisbeautiful]

Who the hell can afford a half a million dollar home these days.

[@carrielopez1728]

Only the 1%

[@obiephillips9174]

Especially simple looking bungalow homes priced at half a million dollars! They actually are priced at 750k here in San Diego.... for the same simple house.

[@brendanknott309]

“Burned down in the campfire” doesn’t look like much of a campfire 🤦‍♂️

[@ChandraNYC]

"Camp Fire"

[@williamniklaus9480]

because its well known that metal doesn't bend or collapse under heat...

[@seanmiller5173]

Anyone moving there should not be supported by taxpayer dollars, no disaster relief dollars should be spent on any potential rebuilds. These policies should apply to all common, regular disaster area. Common sense needs to be more common. Wealthy home owners in the Hampton that rebuilt on shifting dunes, should not be given a dine of taxpayer dollars. Lower middle class or poor people rebuilding in an area annually plagued with wildfires should not be afforded taxpayer dollars to rebuild in high risk area. Times are a changing, these areas are not going to return to previous norms, period.

[@marcelovolcato8892]

People like to lose everything over and over.

[@SirEnzo371]

The money they save on building a home in California will be spent on expensive insurance plans. They probably don't care honestly.

[@americansniper1641]

How much is that fireproof house might be very interesting

[@lglg6950]

Whats the fire insurance like now?

[@Mr.Ramirez95]

As much as I hate to admit it, the realty lady is right. People live in tornado alley, their homes get destroyed and they keep rebuilding. Tropical storms in Puerto Rico, Florida, Louisiana etc. But as the fire coordinator said, *Build Back Better*

[@rickson50]

Difference is that these places build purpose built homes. It's why you don't hear of skyscrapers falling over in nyc when a hurricane hits or even in Miami which happens yearly. I've been to Florida homes their are built different. When things get destroyed they are usually not purpose built mobile homes. These people are not that, they're literally building homes out of timber in a place that gets fires every year and is projected to worsen.

[@shelbywillis4755]

How can you make a video about this and not mention the negligence of PG&E? Yes it's a wildfire area but this was not a naturally caused fire.

[@robertbrown8896]

EXACTLY! I am so tired of reading about this fire and the other PG&E sourced fires where they oops, forget to mention the company at the cause of most Northern Ca fires.

[@justinv12]

This is the same mentality people in New Orleans had/have and look how it turned out for them

[@southwestxnorthwest]

6:30 “What we had gone through will never happen again” _”Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat”_ - Winston Churchill

[@maxsmith695]

Churchill, biggest loser ever.

[@sidneydenton5706]

How could that guy try to sell a house on top of where someone could've easily lost their life

[@gimmeallthebingbong]

Hell ya, i am really considering this instead of building a house. Thanks for the info!

[@mikebeatstsb7030]

They should cover all in dirt, Soil and grasses over the entire roof

[@davidwright873]

500 grand? in Paradise?? really?? nope...Id rather move to Istanbul...

[@pepperonish]

That sheet metal house will still be destroyed by a fire.

[@maxsmith695]

smart meters.

[@MrJlgsaw]

Paradise AKA silent hill. Imagine how haunted that town is.

[@jeremyk530]

I live in paradise still and also lost my house in the fire Pretty cool to see yall here

[@sachaharrison9740]

Good bless you and family!

[@rashad123us]

*The house might not combust, but that doesn’t mean the stuff inside won’t either* 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jesz97]

Ember infiltration is the #1 cause of a home burning down in wildfire. But with proper eaves and ventilation you can completely nullify that issue

[@kodakflaps8267]

3 mins in and the only seemingly logical person with a brain is the first woman that is making her home fireproof but even then wildfires are fucking terrifying so idk if it’s worth the headache especially when we are in a worse drought now then in 2018.

[@maxsmith695]

Take out the smart meter. That is the issue.

[@kincamell2]

Much Gratitude for sharing

[@callspreadzero854]

Quit insuring assets that aren’t built to handle regional risks. A timber frame home in a wildfire area is like having a slab home next to the Louisiana coast.

[@geosync9742]

The truth is that humans are resilient and tend to stay where they've been despite natural disasters. Tornadoes and floods in the Midwest and people still live there. They will rebuild in Kentucky. Hurricanes are a permanent risk along the South and east coast yet people deal.

[@RainCity3rd]

While humans are statistically risk adverse in experiments our human brains also did not evolve to well conceptualize longer terms risk. We do a bad job at thinking about low frequency / but higher severity. We have to make a big effort to build various modeling in engineering, planning, risk management areas to force our human brains to be a better job for these type of things. To be fair for the vast majority of human history we needed to concentrate no not being eaten by a lion and getting enough water and food. The fact there are multi decades or more events just didn't factor.

[@SuperT44]

Vice content is always so tapped in 👏🏿

[@timbeckman1134]

PG&E failed to upkeep vast swaths of equipment and transformers were in disrepair, causing sparks ⚡️ to hit the fan on a rural community due to PG&E’s inexcusable irresponsibility. C’mon Vice, did PG&E pay you to say windstorm & drought conditions?! Total bull 🤢

[@timbeckman1134]

Too often news outlets shy away . . .

[@robertbrown8896]

@@timbeckman1134 NO KIDDING! If people only knew the truths behind these PG&E fires.....but they won't. News outlets shy away.....

[@andreabontempo643]

Curious how the homes burned and not the trees

[@williamhiles7404]

I lived there. You don't. Plenty of trees burned. You have no idea what your talking about. LedHed Pb 207.20

[@cyn_na_mini]

You do know that live trees have water stored in them, right? And why don't you come to Paradise instead of spreading weird conspiracy theories. You'll see countless trees that are still burned and destroyed.

[@andreabontempo643]

@@cyn_na_mini I know all about Paradise . One word DEWS

[@sonatine3266]

I def. feel very sorry for all the people who lost their homes, but I don't understand why you would still build wood frame houses? Maybe it's because here in Germany houses are build with modern, so called "massiv insulation stones" ("Massivbau-Wärmedämmstein" is the wonderful German word for these type of stones with different core materials like concrete etc.) for decades now (the materials have been improved obviously over the last years). Especially a combination with "Kalksandstein" (sand-lime bricks) would be very good for fire protection. It's surely a thing of tradition, but wouldn't it help to at least build a bit more safe against fire or is there no real market for these materials in the USA and importing would cost too much? Sorry for the dumb questions... I just know that the USA is superior in so many things when it comes to building, that's why I'm wondering.

[@tarottman3926]

You honestly think that this perfect storm of dry heat and high temperatures for long periods will never happen again!! I predicted it will and could be worse.

[@Sky-pt6lc]

I live in a state that I don’t worry about hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, Flooding and wildfires. We sometimes get blizzards but not often.

[@MiZZVMN]

I live in CA and don’t worry about those things either.

[@kuromikendall]

The more you love your decisions, the less you need others to love your decisions. ♡

[@ykMMD]

Lmao, that's a very strange life philosophy. What about murderers or assurance companies robbing people. Just because they love their decisions, it doesn't make them great.

[@DimitriTechOfficial]

The more you stick your head in the sand the more you bury yourself alive.

[@MTCali1970]

Have you spoken to the people living in Santa Rosa, CA as well after that fire? That does not look like a 'wildfire' to me..

[@LK-pc4sq]

Sigh!!! the water scarcity will make this city and future cities in californa extinct unless they can some how obtain water from water desalination plant from the Pacific Ocean. BTW, this house construction is what I been telling people for year...a fire reistant house of this type will survive a BIG wild fire.

[@buckmanriver]

I would be curius to learn more about how the reduction in fuel load aound this town due to the fire would affect the problity of an equaly or worse event in the near term futer.

[@maxsmith695]

make no difference, it was a DEW fire.

[@woxineaucrows7355]

No insurance and he moves forward so see it's not the end of the world just a bump in the road of life and to see people building smarter is a great thing because it could happen again Mother Nature has her own timetable.

[@gpopsk]

their house burned down because of global warming and he still drives a ford f150 and another huge pick-up truck. man this is north america in one picture, people complaining but not doing anything.

[@J_Clean_1996]

This is so stupid.

[@juanmack2663]

They say this as happy camp is burning up agian for the second time

[@vikm1341]

im glad it has been raining more in CA lately.

[@ramahdispatch999]

Rebuilding with wood is insanity. Absolute INSANITY!! This is why insurance companies are refusing to offer new construction property coverage.

[@matthewkeating6970]

I'd make a tornado shelter with its own personal air supply.

[@ceufrscio707]

5:07 absolute unit

[@fdfac]

Both realtors are idiots and the contractor is irresponsible to the point he should not be trusted

[@ThestuffthatSaralikes]

“…oh it’s definitely risen in the past few years…” he stammers when asked if $499,000 is “normal” for the area. That really pissed me off. Realtors and developers and builders: *YA’LL ARE THE REASON NO ONE CAN BUY A HOME NOW* let’s be honest. It happened here in Paradise, it’s happened in my town after every flood and hurricane, and it’s happening in Maui as we speak and it will happen wherever the next “natural disaster” plays out. And people see “an opportunity” to make some $$. Realtors and developers: you don’t HAVE to raise you commissions, you don’t HAVE to see a piece of land “as how much $$ can I make off this” you can just let it all stay the same. So the people that WERE there and lost it all can afford to rebuild in their same place. Builders and developers: you don’t HAVE to raise your materials pricing AS HIGH even when the market raises prices. Sure, the lumber prices skyrocketed, prices on “builder grade” materials and appliances from overseas skyrocketed- but then they readjusted and dropped some. Yet the majority of wholesalers and suppliers KEPT prices at the highest level. Which means stores kept THEIR prices higher. (THIS is REAL trickle down economics) Making new home prices spike. Which made old home prices spike. Even undeveloped land prices spiked. And haven’t or won’t readjust and drop. So really the hope of homeownership is just gone for my generation and the two that come next. And yes, I know the FED fucked us all in interest rates, but if prices weren’t as high, a 7% interest rate wouldn’t hurt so bad. imho.