People Are Wrong About The Feather Cape In Valheim Ashlands

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In this Valheim Ashlands guide, we talk about why you should not ditch the the feather cape when heading to the Ashlands Biome and how you can negate the weakness to fire that comes with it.
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@aldrinharlim
@aldrinharlim 4 ай бұрын
I use the feather cape + barley wine for flametal mining but for normal combat i use the ashen cape for its extra armor and attack stamina reduction, yes i carry both all the time
@kril859
@kril859 4 ай бұрын
This + ask set is so good for Ashlands
@NPC_maga
@NPC_maga 3 ай бұрын
Ok, but the Ashen Cape grants an actually appreciable amount of armor, unlike literally every other cape in the game, and also reduces stamina of blocking and attacking. Considering that jumping and negating fall damage isn't super critical in the Ashlands, but combat buffs certainly are, we have a clear winner here.
@TheSgtpepper111
@TheSgtpepper111 3 ай бұрын
Those spiraly big rocks that are everywhere in the ashlands are amazing to climb and jump off, feather cape makes for easy evasion.
@Davus
@Davus 3 ай бұрын
if you go for warrior, yes, Ashen Cape (imo) is go to, but if you play mage build, where you either want to climb into specific structures to be out of reach or just jump around while casting spells midair + barrier that prevents fire damage...you definetely go feather cape...i mean...what bonus would ashen cape or even asksvin cape give you as mage? you dont attack, block, nor dodge, jump is your friend as mage. There is a reason FireSpark showed mage armor here,
@RationalOrc
@RationalOrc 4 ай бұрын
honestly there isn't actually that much fire dmg in the ashlands.
@isiahaguilar
@isiahaguilar 4 ай бұрын
I personally still use feather cape on my mage setup. The mobility it provides by enabling casting spells while jump gliding is absolutely needed especially considering how squishy mage builds are. I can cast bubble shield while jump gliding towards a direction instead of just standing there casting the bubble shield. You dont get set on fire that much in ashlands since every mob deals mostly physical damage so the weak to fire is negligable tbh. Warrior builds can change the cape since the new capes give a lot of good stats for melle atking builds like more armor or less stamina consumption on attack or dodge
@shiftangles
@shiftangles 4 ай бұрын
The fact that you didnt test in the ashlands tells me there isnt enough things to consistently set you on fire for it even to be an issue anyways. I also wore the feather cape the entire time i was in ashlands and didnt even realize the cape had a fire weakness until much later. Its a non issue imo.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
The campfire was the most consistent source of fire damage I could find. It didn't matter how I was lit on fire or by what I just needed consistency and to know it was only fire damage I was taking. But you are right fire damage in the ashlands is limited. As far as I know it's from charred mage, fader, lava blob, fallen valkyrie and of course the lava. But 90% of the time you are just fighting normal charred.
@kitrozon4422
@kitrozon4422 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@roguereaver634
@roguereaver634 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the Root Harnesk is also still busted
@iamcyndelaq3515
@iamcyndelaq3515 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I feel. When I first got to Ashlands, I ditched the Feather Cape because I figured it'd be a massive liability, because, ya know... the entire biome is on fire! But, my entire playstile relies on the maneuverability that the Feather Cape provides, so I put it back on and was happier for it.
@lalm7849
@lalm7849 4 ай бұрын
It seems like a lot of people are still having a hard time understanding why this happens and why you don't need to throw away your feather cape while you're at Ashlands. Basically, after some testing as well (counting only the first fire damage, not what you receive over time), I concluded the following: The damage multipliers (Very Weak, Weak, Neutral, Resistant, Very Resistant), are not cumulative and/or they do not subtract or add to each other, they overlap, if and only if it is better than the previous one. What is the case with the feather cape, which is very weak against fire, when you take the fire resistance mead, the Very Weak to fire status is replaced by Resistent to fire, simple as that. The same happens with Root Armor, which has Resistant to poison and Weak to Fire, as the poison mead gives you Very Resistant to poison, the Resistant to poison status is replaced by Very Resistant to poison instead of adding together, the Weak to fire is replaced by Resistant to fire like the Feather Cape if you take the Fire Resistant mead as well. What changes is the damage reduced by armor. So the final test I did was with the Troll Cape with the same armor and I compared it with the Feather cape with the same armor (without other armor) and the Fire Resistant mead and the first damage was identical. Remember, the continuous damage you take from fire is not the same as direct damage from fire, damage over time is considered absolute damage and cannot be reduced in any way (This is why the damage doesn't decrease if you take a resistance mead while already taking damage over time, only after), however, it is influenced by the damage that applies it and this damage can be reduced by status multipliers attached to the armor. Espero ter ajudado e desculpa qualquer erro de inglês, pedi ajuda do Google Lol
@kril859
@kril859 4 ай бұрын
Nice testing but that's a commonly known information. Google search would save you the time testing
@lalm7849
@lalm7849 4 ай бұрын
@@kril859 Thank you, the data I compared was with the Valheim wiki (using the armor and damage reduction/increase formulas), it was more to check and make sure that everything I was doing was correct and corresponded with the wiki. But I didn't know that it was common sense for the majority, I imagined that few knew because of the video. Perhaps my interpretation of 'bunch' in English was wrong regarding the number of people mentioned in the video, as it is not my primary language. Anyway, thanks again anyway.
@NbKXStorm
@NbKXStorm 4 ай бұрын
The only time it can even begin to be a problem is on fader, but you're gonna have your wine anyway, and if you stand in that mess long enough for it to hurt you, you're probably dead anyway. Same goes for stepping into the lava, even if it's just your pinky toe. You're just vaporized.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Yea lava is a timer. A very short timer. You can be in it for like a split second then you just dead lol. Even with bubble on. However like I show in my fader guide. The bubble will protect you from most of his attacks even his fire. Your only concern is the spike. They just hit way too hard.
@Sockie82
@Sockie82 4 ай бұрын
So Firespark, do you use Ai in yourt thumbnails?
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
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@madtitan9639
@madtitan9639 4 ай бұрын
I was already carrying barley wine in the Mistlands in case of gjall, so no real change.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
I do not miss the mistlands.
@alexderksen1213
@alexderksen1213 4 ай бұрын
my wife played all of ashlands with feather cape. She didnt have any issues. that being said we always keep fire resistence potions on us
@CorsThe
@CorsThe 4 ай бұрын
Would lava blobs explosions not have been more consistent without the smoke damage?
@Kannushi5
@Kannushi5 2 ай бұрын
Bottom line is playstyle. I noticed in the videos, you're going magic. So yes you'll have the shield bubble and don't really need the new cloak that gives the stamina usage effect. If you go melee you absolutely need that new cloak as it makes you more efficient in combat and that extra swing or block is often the difference between life and death. Good video overall!
@monsterbash9758
@monsterbash9758 4 ай бұрын
I haven't even been using the barley wine. Those lava blobs are easy to dodge and apart from that what else even sets you on fire?
@Jalbesbe
@Jalbesbe 4 ай бұрын
Fallen Valkyries have a special magic fire that does a crazy amount of damage, same with Warlocks. You also take increase damage if you enter lava and are set on fire, but lets be honest the lava is killing you anyways.
@blo5980
@blo5980 4 ай бұрын
Yes, not many enemy. Olny Skeletons mage, fallen Valkyrie, lava blob and fader (boss)...may be bonemaw...but its fire dmg is almost negligible...
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Bone maw doesn't give you fire dot. Pretty sure it's poison damage. I'd have to double check though.
@blo5980
@blo5980 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 what i know is , bonemaw's range attack do both fire and poison damage.
@IsThatDrak
@IsThatDrak 2 ай бұрын
i always use the feathered cape coz i like what it does and how it looks. and lets face it the game is easy anyway so who cares if i take a tad more damage i dont get hit much anyway lol
@imreszilvassy9591
@imreszilvassy9591 4 ай бұрын
The variables (at least partially) come from health regen, you can see it triggering at slightly different timings during the tests
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Yea but they should all happen at the same time providing consistent results. At least it was like that for many of the tests. Not saying you are wrong or anything. You are actually probably correct its just strange there were so many differences.
@anjairis
@anjairis 4 ай бұрын
Jusht get shome drunks and *hiccup* and float on by in the Asshlandsh. I don't have a drinking problem, I drink I get drunk, I put on cloak, I fall down, NO fall damage no proObleMh!
@Lum1nus
@Lum1nus 4 ай бұрын
This campfire test is absolutely useless, you need to review fire damage sources from ashlands, i.e. green flames from fader and warlock Also extra armor from feather cape argument is not smart, people dont change feather cape to nothing, they change it to lox cape before entering ashlands, and to ashen cape later, so the comparison should be feather vs lox vs ashen, not feather vs nothing A very dissapointing lack of due diligence for a "testing" video that tries to prove a point
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
You can't be resistant and weak to something at the same time. The amount of damage taken doesn't matter. If wine negates the weakness it negates the weakness. It's a pretty simple concept.
@jrossbaby141
@jrossbaby141 4 ай бұрын
Naw bro. Have you actually played it in Ashlands ? I defeated fader first try deathless with the feather cape. As long as you have barley wine you basically still don’t take damage. You know what’s actually useless? Your opinionated comments based off emotion and zero facts
@Lum1nus
@Lum1nus 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 so the point of the video is "just drink wine lol"? Then what was all this "testing" about? You are right, this concept is simple enough it doesnt need 9 minutes of demonstrations And elephant in the room, being constantly on potions is a questionable solution at best
@Lum1nus
@Lum1nus 4 ай бұрын
@@jrossbaby141 1 - how a random guy's achievent in the game has to do anything with topic of my comment or this video? I know ppl who can beat fader naked with frostner, so what? 2 - i also played ashlands with feather cape and also beat fader using wine, i never said feather cape is bad, i only expressed my dissapointment in testing method. 3 - constantly drinking potions is a questionable solution. The real reason why feather cape is not as bad as ppl think is that there are only a few fire damage sources in ashlands before bossfight, and they all can be avoided easily. 4 - please read twice and think twice before trying to insult someone, otherwise u embarass urself
@jrossbaby141
@jrossbaby141 4 ай бұрын
@@Lum1nus you’re the only one that’s emotional. The point of all this testing is to drop facts. You’re mad at a KZbin video showing simple facts that’s what’s embarrassing. Resistance and weakness is percentage based. Even if he tested it on fader my point is the same in the original comment. And yeah it’s not hard to see his video is drink barley wine and it basically completely negates the downside of the feather cape. It wasn’t supposed to be a super deep message lol. Let the man make a video about whatever he wants. You’re the one being angry
@mateocastillo7251
@mateocastillo7251 4 ай бұрын
Why not just use whatever you like in whatever biome and stop being so meta abour everything? I get some people like that but geez have some fun around and stop being such speedrunner wannabes
@TheFearGrizzly
@TheFearGrizzly 4 ай бұрын
Brother with how bad fall damage is the feather cape is a must for me. I yeet my dude off to many things to wear any other cape
@The_Man_In_Red
@The_Man_In_Red 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, i love jumping off high things with no worries
@i__am__who3544
@i__am__who3544 4 ай бұрын
I play melee solo and if I forget to take my fire resist pot I get easily destroyed by warlocks of any star, and valkyries can be more difficult if I get cocky. Doesn’t make the feather cape not worth it. The jump buffs are just too good.
@JoelTallman-q2s
@JoelTallman-q2s 3 ай бұрын
You get smoke inhalation damage because if your shield was air-proof you'd suffocate 😆
@Turbodog-do7tc
@Turbodog-do7tc 4 ай бұрын
this reeks of root harnesk energy. if you know, you know.
@theashenverdict1629
@theashenverdict1629 4 ай бұрын
I really hope in the future they add upon the imbue/enchanting from the weapons in ashlands and put it toward armor to give either resist types or bonuses even being able to add it onto older types of gear.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
That would be awesome!
@solson223
@solson223 4 ай бұрын
I've worn the feather cape throughout the Ashlands. Never took it off from start to finish. Its benefits far outweigh any additional fire damage you might take, and obviously that's significantly reduced with barely wine. Jumping higher and being able to jump and glide into areas (like fortresses) are a huge advantage.
@dhycampbell
@dhycampbell 4 ай бұрын
If you want to test with consistent fire ticks, build a roof over a surtling spawner, dry out, stand in it and then look at where the ticks stabilise. You shouldn't take smoke damage with the surtling spawner and it doesn't take damage and go out.
@xpelestra
@xpelestra 3 ай бұрын
Or stand next to fire pit. That thing is cursed :D
@berrylongname
@berrylongname 4 ай бұрын
Its ok if you want to chug wine or play on normal only time I die to fire is the fallen valkyries and the wind run on new cloak works at most angles I use both on a hotkey in combat I switch it off. SO basically you take 3 x to fire with it but you can run evade little better in heated fight. I wonder if the difficulty make a difference and mobs most likely hit with a difference then a camp fire only reason I say this is only time I die is when wearing it on my second run melee only no range but bow with feather cape you are dead magic were you only range ya ok use it.
@pepanovakno
@pepanovakno 3 ай бұрын
i wore it everytime but when i see something that would set me on fire i take the cape down
@yourbrogio_9744
@yourbrogio_9744 4 ай бұрын
I personally bring the feather cape just so I can platform easier on the lava
@axios7773
@axios7773 4 ай бұрын
People. There is a VERY limited sources of fire damage in Ashlands. Is it that hard to change your cape when youre figting it? Valkyrie, blob, boss.
@АрчибальтРомуальдович-м7ы
@АрчибальтРомуальдович-м7ы 4 ай бұрын
you don't even feel the damage from valkyrie's shots under effect of wine. so i don't understand what a big deal about the cape
@axios7773
@axios7773 4 ай бұрын
@@АрчибальтРомуальдович-м7ы I didnt even use the wine in Ashlands at all, besides biome boss. I have two capes and switch the feather one when I face valkyrie. There is multiple ways to play. Cape is indeed not a big deal.
@Blakkrazor69
@Blakkrazor69 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. The wine is a great consumable for the Ashlands regardless of what you wear but the Feather Cloak is hard to beat for what it lets you do in terms of being maneuverable on the battlefield.
@Voksdov
@Voksdov 4 ай бұрын
could be wrong, but i think the variation you were getting in your tests is due to a few things such as passive healing per tick as well as when in a tick cycle you step into the fire, causing slightly different numbers. also cape vs no cape isn't a fair comparison, as you'll likely have a different cape on if you choose not to use the feather cape. shoulda tried lox or wolf to keep an even armor value when naked. i get that the damage from the fire is negligible in full armor with wine, but you're not dealing with campfires in the ashlands
@gmeroxx
@gmeroxx 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. It scales by multiplying (very weak vs fire dmg x2). if u take even 10fire dmg from campfire x2 it's 20, but when Gjall throw fireball for 80 fire dmg with cape u take 160 raw dmg. In addition fire dmg can stack, if u get firedmg from several enemies its getting even worse.
@PhilippMehr
@PhilippMehr 4 ай бұрын
Totaly agree. Shure, if you go and tank everything, stacking fire dmg might become a problem. But as a mage or archer, nothing comes even romtely close to you. I finished ashlands, got the sword, killed Fader and didnt even notice, that the valkyries deal fire dmg 😅 and the blobs are so slow, the mages are far far away...
@mtbman2479
@mtbman2479 4 ай бұрын
Evertime I try to use the Ashlands capes I end up take way more fall damage which more than negates any fire damage reduction. The worst are the valkeries which will blast you no matter which cape you're rockin....unless you run barley wine. It's such a cheap recipe that you can run it all the time without any extra grind. Also, I'm a jump dodger so the other perks really are op.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Gravity sucks
@josh6_66
@josh6_66 4 ай бұрын
look i usually like your videos, but i think this damage test was pretty bad. with the campfire dealing so little damage, the extra 4 armor you got from the feather cape had a big impact. if you would compare a lvl 1 feather cape with a different lvl 1 cape, you would get the following results: with a feather cape you deal double damage, compared to without and if you use barley wine, it would be the exact same with or without feather cape, since barley wine overrides the fire weakness. meaning yes if you are a mage using staff of protection, or if you drink barley wine, you will be completely fine, but the second you get hit by something like a gjall or a valkyrie without either or those two things, you have to pray to not get killed in one hit
@Otazihs
@Otazihs 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, people are shitting on comments pointing this out. Even in the myst if you get blasted with a Gjall fireball without a shield and wearing the feather cape you are done as a mage. The fact that we are dealing with percentages mean that the bigger the fire damage the more noticeable the feather cape weakness is. Now don't get me wrong, I still wear the cape where ever I go and accept the risk, just don't get hit. We are playing on hard world preset and that 150% enemy damage really shines through.
@mannemannen7211
@mannemannen7211 4 ай бұрын
i always wiegh pros and cons, it was evident to me that the feather fall is way to important to loose even if the firedamage would ahve increased significantly.
@danielservice1736
@danielservice1736 4 ай бұрын
I like the buffs that the capes give you but I hate putting them on. It think they makes my avatar look stupid
@CatfishMan131
@CatfishMan131 4 ай бұрын
I have played though all of the ashlands and the feather cap is still the goat in my opinion. The only form of fire I’ve found that does a significant enough amount of extra damage is the ranged attack from the charred warlocks. It does a TON! But they only spawn in the forts so all you have to do is bring the flametal cape and equip it right before you jump in. Also the valkyries might do a lot but I don’t recall ever getting hit by the fire attacks but they’re so easy to kill it doesn’t really matter. I also use melee not magic so take that as you will.
@CruelViper88
@CruelViper88 4 ай бұрын
Now I wanaasee you go ham with that other armor set....the archer set
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
But the charred are resistant to pierce.
@dwillis24
@dwillis24 4 ай бұрын
Great video!
@JPooger
@JPooger 4 ай бұрын
i had afree spot on my hotbar so i just put my capes up there and swap between feather and the ashen one
@davidconway6344
@davidconway6344 4 ай бұрын
3:55 its "true" damage like trees falling and u can not lower it.
@mickyspyres458
@mickyspyres458 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Sparkie
@ronniepowell3686
@ronniepowell3686 4 ай бұрын
I keep one feather cape and one of the flametal capes for the armor rating.
@bl8388
@bl8388 3 ай бұрын
Similar to having the harnesk early on, but switching out to padded armor when not fighting deathsquitos.
@ronniepowell3686
@ronniepowell3686 3 ай бұрын
@@bl8388 heck yeah that’s how you do it
@360lootgoon3
@360lootgoon3 4 ай бұрын
The only time the fire weakness on the feather cape may be a hindrance, is if it’s also paired with the root harnesk, and you don’t use barley wine. I run carapace helmet and greaves, root harnesk and feather cape for Mistlands. Before the ash update, I didn’t really *need* fire resist, cuz the Gjalls are pretty few and mostly easy to manage. But, after the update, I didn’t realize the cape was *very* weak, paired with the weak to fire root, and i tangled with a Gjall while mining some stuff. Dude took over *half* my health with a single fire ball, and the damage ticks were quickly eating the other half. Popped a health potion and tried running to the nearest body of water, but got clipped by a second fire ball and…. Died. That’s when I checked my gear and found out the cape was now very weak to fire. Still though, it’s better to run them both and just *drink fire resist* meads in the mists than run full carapace, as the pierce resist is more important than the weakness to fire. Long winded explanation, but I may ditch just the root chest when I finally end up entering the Ashlands. Kinda figured fire resist meads were gonna be a *must have* in a land full of boiling water and fire… lol
@gillesvankralingen66
@gillesvankralingen66 3 ай бұрын
elemental weakness do not stack (and neither do buffs) the strongest weakness (cape) overrides the smaller weakness from the root
@blickybear
@blickybear 3 ай бұрын
Bro defending my loyal feather cape. Respect
@Orwrath2010
@Orwrath2010 4 ай бұрын
How about testing out the fenris armor next with the feather cape and how viable it is in the ashlands as it has this ability to walk through fire?
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
It gives you resistance right. I can't remember at the moment. If that is the case it should also cancel out the weakness.
@Orwrath2010
@Orwrath2010 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 So far while my search for the queen I have been running around mistlands and the damage from fire does happen as I would also like to see if the fenris armor negates lava :P will prob test it with my low level char once I am able to set up in ashalnds as I need to find the new location for the queen as the one I had was deleted from the ashlands update :/
@giwrgosdavola74
@giwrgosdavola74 4 ай бұрын
the test is dumb. the problem isn't only that you take more damage with fire, but that its way easier to catch on fire, and you are caught on fire for longer. this last two do not get effected by the barley wine. the problem with the cape isn't for the mage class, because of the protection bubble, but if you are a deferent class and still use the cape, that is the problem.
@berrylongname
@berrylongname 4 ай бұрын
I did a test cape off stepped into fire one hit of fire damage cape on took 3 hits of fire damage. 3 with wine for about half
@janpetrasek1976
@janpetrasek1976 4 ай бұрын
ok, shut up
@themorganrobertson
@themorganrobertson 4 ай бұрын
Thats not true. At all. And with barely wine, its completely insignificant.
@giwrgosdavola74
@giwrgosdavola74 4 ай бұрын
@@themorganrobertson it's not thought... have you tried to fight a fallen Valkyrie without it? the lava slimes set you on fire after they explode if you have feather cape, and if you touch lava even once with the feather cape on you are also set on fire, there are also the guys from the forts that set you on fire. barley wine is not insignificant it has helped me many times survive this 3 enemies and not wearing a cape also helped couse when i realized the cape was the couse of most of my damage taken when i was in melee class i removed it and used wine. my death rate was abou 3 times an hour and after i changed cape and used barley wine i died only about once every 2 hours. so don't you dare say it's insignificant.
@Niofomune
@Niofomune 4 ай бұрын
i play as an archer, i use feather cape for maneuverability and ngl, i have never had any problems with valkyries and blobs, idk, maybe it's a playstyle thing. i tend to die to starred warriors and lava dogs, they don't do fire damage and having a featherfall makes running away from them so much easier. warlocks are a bit of a problem, yes, but they're only in forts so i can get ready for them. but that's just a different ways of fighting, i rely on getting on high rocks and jumping off them to mess with pathfinding, without feather cape i would die so much more, and blobs and valkyries have been genuinely not a problem, i just avoid their attacks/explosions.
@skar5453
@skar5453 4 ай бұрын
Feather cape isn’t really worth it in the Ashlands imo. The terrain is mostly flat and the new ashen cape provides better bonuses for the biome + armor. The feather cape is kinda ruined for me honestly. Like I actually have to take it off when I hear a Gjall because of that stupid fire debuff.
@Anton_Danylchenko
@Anton_Danylchenko 4 ай бұрын
I wear feather cape in Ashlands. My play style is very cautious so I mostly avoid fire. And the ability to jump higher and longer in Ashlands is extremely important to me. I also entrenched my base in the Ashlands in a way I need to jump to it over the wide trench.
@NickolasSoesbergen
@NickolasSoesbergen 4 ай бұрын
Do you prefer any of the new capes? I’m trying to solo this biome and I noticed the best is mobility with all the enemies so far, with a combination of magic. I died once far away brought my tank armour out and I felt like I was way too slow
@samrice5926
@samrice5926 4 ай бұрын
I'm almost positive that other sources of fire do much more fire damage than the campfire does.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
That does not matter. The effects are still the same.
@jrossbaby141
@jrossbaby141 4 ай бұрын
How are so many people in the comments smooth brained enough to not understand how percentages work. Even if the number is bigger - resistances/weaknesses are percentage reductions. So it is literally the same
@berrylongname
@berrylongname 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 Well I keep dying to Fader with all 3 potions on from a dot and realized I had the feather cape on took it off put ash one on killed him. And I had beat him before on my mage which are kind of cheesy anyway in this game but I like melee combat most fights I am almost dead the extra I would take form fire most likely be dead. And how do you know that were is it written,
@blo5980
@blo5980 4 ай бұрын
​​@@berrylongnamein fact, fader's flame attack do only little protion of fire dmg. Most of dmg is spirit dmg.... Since you have taken fire-resistance potion. The ash cap only help you by its additional def and bonus.....
@rajamicitrenti1374
@rajamicitrenti1374 4 ай бұрын
​@@Firespark81It does make your last example with the Ashlands mage armor on misleading, as you are suggesting that you are basically immune to fire due to the armor and barley wine. But larger fire damage values aren't going to be affected by Armor stat nearly as much.
@CruelViper88
@CruelViper88 4 ай бұрын
The feather cape provides so much utility...any good viking knows how to fight and avoid dmg. In the Mountain I loved the Fenris armor set, but it's weak to fire...making those cultist very dangerous. So I changed my fighting style to avoid the fire dmg, and worked out just fine. Don't just toss it away because of a feature...adapt.
@yomammasaurusrex9571
@yomammasaurusrex9571 4 ай бұрын
Fenris armor is fire resistant
@stevegee9087
@stevegee9087 4 ай бұрын
I agree totally. I have died heaps in Ashlands (just learning the ropes solo). BUT, I have never died from fire damage. Head butts, coup de grace, valkyrie poison, etc, but never fire damage.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Oh man Ive died so much testing stuff I've lost count. My favorite is when I'm not paying attention and a stupid sneaky blob blows up on me. That's always good times lol
@adnjazz
@adnjazz 4 ай бұрын
you're comparing the feather cape to no cape, when in actual gameplay, you'd be comparing the feather cape to the asksvin, lox, and ashen cape
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Im showing that its easy to negate the weakness if you wanna wear the cape. 😁
@frodo9649
@frodo9649 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 But your test isn't fair: You are comparing fire weakness with 4 armor against no armor. You should be comparing fire weakness with 4 armor against no weakness with 4 armor. And with the low damage of a campfire, 0 vs 4 armor already makes a difference. I still agree with your conclusion though.
@delindsay
@delindsay 4 ай бұрын
Great testing, thank you!
@michealnelsonauthor
@michealnelsonauthor 4 ай бұрын
“…was a little bit on fire…”. Uh huh. I see.
@Groucho92
@Groucho92 4 ай бұрын
I decided to go for 2 capes, so I use the feather one while climbing and the asksvin one while sprinting and dodging :) I find it more practical than using barley wine .... We discussed all the evening with two friends and they are of your opinion :)
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
My issue with the Ask cape is you have to be moving with the wind for it to work. If you are its crazy fast. Like you are the freaking flash compared to someone not wearing it. But if you are not running with the wind its meh. Wish it just made you fast all the time.
@robertfawcett5101
@robertfawcett5101 4 ай бұрын
@Firespark81, have you tried the asksvin cape paired with the Moder power???
@666Daheretic
@666Daheretic 4 ай бұрын
​@@robertfawcett5101moder power only effects wind direction while driving a boat.
@Kessra
@Kessra 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 Some people prefer dodging to jumping and as such the Askvin cloak provides probably more use to them. Look at Embr i.e. she's dodge-rolling like there is no tomorrow :D In the end, we are talking about nuances, probably. The bubble, at least to my knowledge, also aborbs a predefined amount of damage depending on the level of the staff used. I think I read somewhere that the maximum bubble grants a shild that absorbs 800 damage in total. I'm not sure if i.e. the feather cloack ultimately would drain more HP from the bubble than the Askvin cape for the same damage source (i.e. Valkyrie fire).
@robertfawcett5101
@robertfawcett5101 4 ай бұрын
@@666Daheretic , missed opportunity, in my opinion, to give Moder power more utility.....
@Fourmiant316
@Fourmiant316 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the math is wrong when calculating the Fire Weakness of the Feather Cape with the Fire Resistance of the Barley Wine. My intuition would make both cancel out, only calculating the armor as reduction for the fire. The wiki hints at a resistance when adding a potion to a piece of equipment having a weakness (i.e. Root Mask + Barley Wine). But your test seems to point to a math bug where the damage was multiplied by 1.5 for the cape, then divided by 10 for the Barley Wine. I would have expected 100% +50% fire weakness (cape) -50% barley wine = 100%.
@ToniFalck
@ToniFalck 4 ай бұрын
I personally think that barley wine simply overrides the weakness (from 1.5 to 0.5), the damage from cape + wine come from the low damage of the campfire when you add armor (4 from the cape)
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
The actual damage honestly is not important. The only thing that is important is what you stated. The wine cancels the weakness. That and a bubble stops it all together.
@ToniFalck
@ToniFalck 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 It kind of is for clarity, like the original comment of Fourmiant expresses, the perception of damage was way off as a demonstration/informal video. Not everyone runs a mage loadout, but this biome sure does encourage you to with many enemies ranged or not and most resistant to arrows.
@necrovive
@necrovive 4 ай бұрын
personally im not ditching feather cape because of fire damage, the ashen cape give more armor and looks cooler but the ashen cape sometime bug out and became ashen apron.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Yea that cape adds a ton of armor. Fully upgrade it and the flametal armor and you are a walking tank. Get a friend to run mage and bubble you, you are unstoppable.
@necrovive
@necrovive 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 i dont have friends that into gaming 😂 it so sad, i play hybrid, so ashen cape is really helpful for adding more armor, and i still chug some barley wine though because it seem the fire ball from the Valkyrie hit a bit harder.
@Rydlesmash
@Rydlesmash 4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@darion88
@darion88 4 ай бұрын
From my gameplay fire in ashland is not the same as a fire camp. I took lots of damage with potion and shield from Ashlands fire sources. That means this test should be done with dangers in that biome done for example Ashland's lava if you accidentally step on it or Valkyrie fire attack, that hurts way more than a fire camp and you are not going to get burnt by a fire camp in Ashlands. Despite dieng to that I still use the cape, I find it more safe due to gravity and useful for jumping.
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂️It doesn't matter the reductions are still the same. So if the barley wine negates the weakness it's going to negate the weakness no matter what kinda fire you get hit by. Also same with the bubble and same armor. Also lava is pretty much insta death no matter what and other attacks come with other damage. The cape weakness is the dot you burn for. "Fire damage" is a dot.
@ToniFalck
@ToniFalck 4 ай бұрын
I think you could stand in the lava blob explosions, they don't seem to hurt that much with tier 3 carapace, in this test the barley+cape got low damage due to armor so it may not be as big of an effect as the video makes it out to be.
@frodo9649
@frodo9649 4 ай бұрын
​@@Firespark81 It's not all the same. If you have no armor (or take a lot of damage with little armor), you take 4x the amount of damage if you are very weak to fire than if you are resistant to fire. But if you have a significant amount of armor, the difference between very weak and resistant can be up to 16x. So the amount of damage you take and how much armor you have actually matter, it's not linear. And in the ashlands, you are probably getting fire damage in single large hit, which is first multiplied by your weakness/resistance, then reduced by your armor, and then applied as dot over the next 5 seconds. But in your tests, you are taking small amounts of fire damage every second, which get multiplied by weakness/resistance and reduced by armor each time, and then stacked on your remaining dot damage, which gets recalculated and distributed again over the next 5 seconds. That's why your dot in the campfire was increasing over time. But that's not a typical scenario for ashlands. Yes, your statement is correct that the weakness doesn't matter if you have the barley wine or the bubble, but the numbers in your test don't really help to judge how vulnerable you are if you don't have the barley wine in the short moments where your bubble is down and you are low hp.
@darion88
@darion88 4 ай бұрын
​@@Firespark81 Both stuff that I told you give a burn debuff and that's what happened to me. 1) I was full life with bubble fighting a valkyrie with a friend and before we killed her, she threw the pink fire ball and I didn't see that due to camera angle. The pink ball landed on my character, bubble broke and I died, I was running potion, 3 magic foods so I had like 100 hp and lvl 3 staff. 2) there was a glitch in the middle of the floor a small lava dot that I didn't see walked through it and the same thing happened, it broke my shield and died. same gear and buffs. I consider those my mistakes that's why I keep using the cape, but the damage I received isn't similar at all to what you are showing.
@connorschamel4662
@connorschamel4662 4 ай бұрын
How do you set a hot key to heal?! Good vid!
@aiugiamos3057
@aiugiamos3057 4 ай бұрын
In console : bind [keybode] [command] (the command is "heal") PS: I've seen people use it to bind emotes and then use emotes to do animation cancel that they use in combat, maybe it has been patched but I doubt it.
@excancerpoik
@excancerpoik 4 ай бұрын
@@aiugiamos3057 is it possible to bind a key to specific potions in the inventory
@tobywang6145
@tobywang6145 4 ай бұрын
This dude using ai voice now
@Samaelx.
@Samaelx. 4 ай бұрын
Just become its weak against fire doesn't mean its bad 🤦🏾. The -100% damage reduction is busted af. Its not like youll be set ablaze when you wear the cape and are roaming around in Ashlands. These kids need to stop crying about everything.
@Pimpemon
@Pimpemon 4 ай бұрын
I have been having no problem in the Ashlands with the feather cape and barely wine.
@tyraelpl
@tyraelpl 3 ай бұрын
I sorely lack a table to show all the results at the same time. Not sure how can you talk about numbers without listing them or otherwise showing em on the screen ;) Thx.
@MuthaTuckaaa
@MuthaTuckaaa 3 ай бұрын
I simply swap between the two as I go, depending on situation. These players are bad. These people are the same ones who think the game is hard. It's not. Cleared through mistlands in troll armor and a knife...and I'm nowhere near the best player around.
@dannave7816
@dannave7816 4 ай бұрын
Firespark81, you are overusing your "F you, I'm so bored, avatar. It's quite annoying...
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
Where I'm setting in the chair? If that is what you are talking about its cause Im not sure how to fill some of those gaps. If I showed my face it would just be me talking at the camera but I don't so its that instead. Thank you for the input and I'm open to suggestions.
@kampradooka5024
@kampradooka5024 4 ай бұрын
@@Firespark81 The sitting avartar is fine, just supposed to be an in game representation of u anyway. Plus i dont think it looks bored, more lost in thought. If u were to show some sort of enemy or something happening people would be less focused on what you say in those segments and more watching whats happening. Your formulas solid, keep up the good work
@Firespark81
@Firespark81 4 ай бұрын
@kampradooka5024 thats my thinking, would prefer people to be focused on my words and not the video in those parts. But I am open to suggestions. Who knows someone out there could have a really good idea that greatly improves the videos. So I am open though feedback as always. My videos are what they are now because of all of you. 😀
@eriandhor7779
@eriandhor7779 4 ай бұрын
Never worn the feather cape ever in the game and manage just fine. it's an OP cape that makes the game rly dumb.
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