What Happens When You Try to Recycle a Video Game?

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@TransSappho
@TransSappho 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Chris just walked up to a guy at a recycling plant and somehow ended up getting an interview with one of the highest up higher ups in this field
@PeopleMakeGames
@PeopleMakeGames 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously, the best thing you can do with your unwanted games is to resell or donate them, however... we're interested in what happens if that's not an option. What should you do with your broken discs and boxes? We try to find out.
@TheOverArchiver
@TheOverArchiver 5 жыл бұрын
I have a another option: hoard them!!!! HOARD THEM ALL!!!
@theDegausser
@theDegausser 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving the effort you two put into these videos. Great stuff! But I would’ve really liked a section about game cartridges... I know they are out of date for the most part, but what about physical copies of Nintendo Switch games? Really loving the channel, but would love to see a follow up video, or possibly an article we could read from PMG about cartridge recycling. Keep up the great work!
@milesjacobson3596
@milesjacobson3596 5 жыл бұрын
Short term, donating them is great. But doesn't solve any problems mid/long term, because once the hardware is defunct, no one wants the discs any more, so they still need to be recycled or sit in landfill. See VHS videos as the best example of this - given to charity shops, now the hardware is hard to get hold of to play them, and even harder to still be working, so all those videos that no one wants have to go somewhere. And not everyone will think to turn them into furniture...
@DrakeDaraitis
@DrakeDaraitis 4 жыл бұрын
Pin your comment. (:
@zodayn
@zodayn 4 жыл бұрын
I quite like the football manager box. It looks more sleek and luxurious when all of it is printedon all sides rather than a piece of paper behind a layer and in a generic plastic case. Props to Sega for rolling it out to other studios.
@PeopleMakeGames
@PeopleMakeGames 5 жыл бұрын
Also, for those of you thinking about it: that Football Manager code has already been redeemed. You cheeky git.
@traggeydatroll
@traggeydatroll 5 жыл бұрын
It's still a good idea to censor them, as someone could take a screenshot from the video and send it in to steam/whatever to try and prove that they own the code, it has happened before!
@PeopleMakeGames
@PeopleMakeGames 5 жыл бұрын
@@traggeydatroll Oh no.
@traggeydatroll
@traggeydatroll 5 жыл бұрын
Quickly, smack an annotation on top of it, that'll do the tri- hmm.
@midasmagnezone4282
@midasmagnezone4282 5 жыл бұрын
@@traggeydatroll rip annotations :(
@eldrago19
@eldrago19 3 жыл бұрын
Can't you just stick the paper and case in your recycling wheelie bin?
@BudgetBuildsOfficial
@BudgetBuildsOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
In 2030 I fully expect a playthrough of Big Family Games
@etlttc353
@etlttc353 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@connors3356
@connors3356 3 жыл бұрын
yo its budget builds official, the official channel of budget builds. what a legend
@mattturner7461
@mattturner7461 5 жыл бұрын
Animations were phenomenal on this vid
@spinballwhizzkids
@spinballwhizzkids 5 жыл бұрын
I think the problem lies more with wastage from retailers than with consumers. How companies like Game cut disks and sever cables continuing to bin them, rather than donating overstock to charitable causes upsets me. This problem is also prevalent with US companies such as GameStop. Whilst old games still hold a value in regards to nostalgia and backwards compatibility it doesn’t make sense to bin them.
@spinballwhizzkids
@spinballwhizzkids 5 жыл бұрын
A very well made video btw :)
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 5 жыл бұрын
Also the boxes are a lot bigger than they need to be. Remember the square format of the PS1 disc cases ? Or the cardboard boxes of GB, GBC and GBA games ? Reduce, reuse, recycle, in that order.
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 4 жыл бұрын
What about launch/day one versions of games that become redundent due to Game of the year editions/reprints?
@neenaw
@neenaw 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect a football game to pioneer environmentally friendly game packaging 😲 big up to Miles from Sports Interactive 👏🏾
@bazahaza
@bazahaza 5 жыл бұрын
Would be better if digital only.
@theomnitorium7476
@theomnitorium7476 5 жыл бұрын
@@bazahaza Nope. As hinted at the end of the video, downloads aren't more enviroment friendly at all. Downloads need servers to download from. Servers require a lot of energy and cooling, both things are really bad for the environment.
@bazahaza
@bazahaza 5 жыл бұрын
@@theomnitorium7476 I don't agree. How can one digital download account for more environmental impact than one physical copy?
@tams805
@tams805 5 жыл бұрын
@@bazahaza Try reading their comment, doing some research and critical thinking?
@bazahaza
@bazahaza 5 жыл бұрын
@@tams805 ok critical thing cap on..... Read research. Still don't agree. In my opinion physical copies will encur more environmental impact than a digital download. It's common sense.
@PortlandMan
@PortlandMan 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think that a bus shelter you're standing under might be made from some of your recycled games
@dusty2366
@dusty2366 5 жыл бұрын
So I went to the CeX website to see how much they were selling Prototype for, expecting it to be somewhere around a tenner. It's a quid, so I can't really make the joke I was going to.
@ohnoitschris
@ohnoitschris 5 жыл бұрын
It's five bucks at Gamestop USA so there you go
@kamikazilucas
@kamikazilucas 5 жыл бұрын
still a 10x increase
@piprod01
@piprod01 5 жыл бұрын
@@kamikazilucas but they are also only making 90p on it if you assume their costs of employing staff, and time taken to inspect and store the game are zero.
@nienke7713
@nienke7713 3 жыл бұрын
Reuse is always better than recycle, so if someone wants to buy it second hand, that's better, and those plastic boxes could potentially also be used to package new discs (game or otherwise)
@atfruitbat
@atfruitbat 5 жыл бұрын
Good topic! Interesting to see what happens to these material objects. It's encouraging to see a shift towards sustainable materials in manufacturing. Plus a paper/cardboard case takes up less shelf space, which is handy at home. If you can't recycle the plastic case in your area, some charity shops will happily take them off your hands, because they can house stray DVDs or Blu-rays in those spare boxes.
@chadmichael5700
@chadmichael5700 4 жыл бұрын
If you break something down and attempt to recycle it, to remake the same product, there WILL be waste. If they took what they called waste, and made it into another product, there would be no waste. For example, I used to work in a high tech computer chip manufacturing plant. And the waste that would be vented off to the atmosphere, and then the company just pays EPA fines. A company I worked for, took that gas that would be vented, and developed a process that refined it, collected it, pressed it, and created fire resistant dry wall type of building materials. This material is then sold, and all waste for this process IS recovered......People need to think out of the box these days. And there are plenty of room left for innovations in ALL aspects of our industries, across the world. There isn't any company that I couldnt go into, and figure out a way or means, to gain profits from perceived wastes. More people are needed with this logic/mindset.....
@JoeWalker98
@JoeWalker98 5 жыл бұрын
Love the wall-e lift truck in the recycling company
@nuk3snip3r
@nuk3snip3r 2 жыл бұрын
The team at Football Manager, just wow. I love the guts to say "We are doing this" and props to SEGA for going along. I'd love to see more of this.
@RichGwilliam
@RichGwilliam 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely mini documentary. Not that game related, but for the record: doesn't matter to me a bit. Keep throwing tangentially related knowledge into my mouth please.
@davidwebb1872
@davidwebb1872 5 жыл бұрын
Surely the best solution would be to make digital copies of games the same price or cheaper than physical copies (as they should be) and allow them to be sold on a 2nd hand market. Then physical copies would be obsolete and the waste would be zero.
@endybendy5699
@endybendy5699 5 жыл бұрын
This is just anti-Prototype propaganda!
@mattball8622
@mattball8622 5 жыл бұрын
The game that persuaded me to buy a 360. I have find memories!
@KarolaTea
@KarolaTea 5 жыл бұрын
Huh, I had never heard of that scrunch test! And now I wonder what kind of plastic pops back flat... Really interesting video, thank you! Also a point on the plastic vs. paper thing: We can't recycle things indefinitely, at some point the material degrades. Not much of a problem with paper, trees grow back. But plastic (as of now) is made from mineral oil, which will run out at some point (and also getting it out of the ground/shipping it around the globe is quite destructive).
@CongaMann
@CongaMann 5 жыл бұрын
Huh, didn't know there was a recycling compound behind homebase, and I've been there a couple times because my mum used to work in an electronics factory right next to it, the more you know I guess.
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 5 жыл бұрын
Conga Mann honestly you raise a good point. More needs to be done to make people aware of where local recycling facilities are.
@0hate9
@0hate9 3 жыл бұрын
ok, not only is that paper game box eco-friendly, it also just looks better. like, a lot better.
@Alex-nl5cy
@Alex-nl5cy 5 жыл бұрын
The latest episode of the podcast Reasonably Sound "The World Remade" talks about the environmental cost of different music formats, including disks and streaming. I'd highly recommend it.
@brunothepig6902
@brunothepig6902 5 жыл бұрын
Great podcast. And if anyone wants to hear more about the costs and "physicality" of data, the first episode of the podcast Failed Architecture has a great discussion on it. Bonus, their second episode is about video games.
@inesre3689
@inesre3689 4 жыл бұрын
@@brunothepig6902 thank you
@captain_rewind
@captain_rewind 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for this, truly. It’s so awesome that you were led to some of these interviews. It’s funny how a lot of people don’t know how doing just basic journalism can sometimes quickly lead you to interviews you never imagined getting!
@nutcase6443
@nutcase6443 3 жыл бұрын
We used to have cardboard boxes. It’s not just that plastic is just cheaper. It’s what consumers, especially collectors, want. Hopefully we’ll see less and less shovel-ware releasing physically and the only people buying physical copies of games are the ones that will never get rid of them.
@sylvy16
@sylvy16 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an excellent solution to this problem. I personally like to buy games physically, and only do so for triple A games. Most games under 15$, I end up just getting digitally, especially since they go on sale way more often than triple A games. I hope more video game manufacturers can reduce their physical releases to only their big,anticipated games and release the rest digitally.
@greenhowie
@greenhowie 5 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone. Slight tangent but if you have the means to set up a colony on the moon or the bottom of the ocean then all packaging should not only be standardised so they can be re-used with little processing, but also the packaging should be considered as literal units of money. Collect them, deposit them and the value goes straight into your account. If the society grows enough then recycling will become simply a way of living. Good video, hope this gets the attention it deserves.
@cubing7276
@cubing7276 3 жыл бұрын
6:15 hey 2 blue center pieces! That’s illegal
@Mmmm_tea
@Mmmm_tea 5 жыл бұрын
I gave my old games to a charity organization's to resell, pretty much 100% recycled without much hassle +bonus points for generating money for a good cause _/
@topilinkala1594
@topilinkala1594 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Helsinki, Finland. We got a plkastic bin on our apartment building's waste area. Now I produce mixed waste one small bag a year, everything else is recyclabe in our own waste area. There's now paper, cardboard, metal, glass, plastic, bio and mixed. Plastic is the biggest waste amout in my household. Almost everything you buy from shop is packed in plastic. There still some glass jars and tins and flours are still packaged in paper bags and cereal in cardboard boxes. But all meat, cheese, pasta etc. are in plastic.
@suntannedduck2388
@suntannedduck2388 5 жыл бұрын
Choices: 1.Selling to a local store, 2.Learning how recycling works, 3.Keeping the game or 4.Selling it to a friend/on amazon or ebay for a good amount. I think I'll choose option 3 or 4 (can't beat personal meaning or better deals for it) but still a good video to see how things are done with recycling. The idea of recyclable cases is cool but the platform branding/telling the customer which platform it's for, I think would need to be good so people don't think it's some knockoff (or doesn't seem like a limited edition like case).
@user-vn7ce5ig1z
@user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 жыл бұрын
12:37 - Donate it to poor kids. There's _always_ someone who'll be willing to take stuff no matter what it is. Recycling is a second-last resort and the tip is the final option.
@ChildOfAnAndroid
@ChildOfAnAndroid 4 жыл бұрын
Do these poor kids have a wii in 2030 they can play this on? Unlikely...
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 4 жыл бұрын
Why is recycling a last resort?
@ChildOfAnAndroid
@ChildOfAnAndroid 4 жыл бұрын
@@unicorntomboy9736 because its basically just throwing it away. Have you not heard 'reduce, reuse, recycle'? If it can be reused that's a lot better than throwing it away to be made into something else.
@unicorntomboy9736
@unicorntomboy9736 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChildOfAnAndroid It's not a bad thing if it's reused to manufacture something else But really, who is going to play Big Family Games in 10 years? It's not even a good, or noteworthy game like Nier Automata or God of War.
@ChildOfAnAndroid
@ChildOfAnAndroid 4 жыл бұрын
@@unicorntomboy9736 I agree with you! I was just answering your question. The reason recycling is a second last resort to landfill is because it's just a slightly less bad version of throwing something away. Estimates range between about 70-90% of things that you recycle are just sent to landfill *anyway*, as they aren't able to be used in remanufacture. For a variety of reasons from being a little dirty to being the wrong kind of material.
@MrUkraider
@MrUkraider 5 жыл бұрын
really insightful Chris, thanks for this. Really has opened my eyes on where any unwanted stuff goes from gaming we no longer want or need
@erikcorno
@erikcorno 4 жыл бұрын
this is super interesting! I just finished up an internship with a plastics recycling company in Canada and we were in the beginning stages of talks with Sony to supply them with recycled polypropylene-copolymer (ppco) pellets for game packaging. My co-op term ended around the first trial stage so I'm not sure if they ended up ordering any gaylords, but this is a really neat issue and I'm glad to see it being covered!
@Echodonut
@Echodonut 2 жыл бұрын
Now I am curious if they did end up ordering any of those.
@LootFragg
@LootFragg Жыл бұрын
Two years later, do we know if they ended up ordering any gaylords?
@CaptainHoers
@CaptainHoers 5 жыл бұрын
the first minute of this video is just "if you want something done right the second time, call Chris Bratt"
@Arshink
@Arshink 5 жыл бұрын
Best video you guys have put out yet IMO. It was informative, interesting and funny. Keep up the good work, you're smashing it!
@Robinson_Crusoe
@Robinson_Crusoe 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that most plastic actually can't be recycled. The 3 arrows forming a triangle symbol don't mean that it can be recycled. The symbol was chosen by plastic manufacturers as the plastic designation symbol (the info inside the triangle shows you what type of plastic it is). Why would they do that? I mean.... Do i really need to explain? :D
@dominateeye
@dominateeye 5 жыл бұрын
Climate change is an industry problem, and I'm glad you touched on it in this video. Putting your recycling out every week is helpful, but nowhere near as helpful as the manufacturing plant where you work limiting its emissions, or the office next door using digital copies of documents instead of paper copies, or the restaurant across the street letting employees take home uneaten meals and serving what's left to local hungry low-income people free of charge and composting the scraps for garden-grown produce, or the power plant outside of town switching at least partially to renewable energy sources. Our personal lives do impact the environment, but all the people in the world making minor changes to their lives can't measure up to what could be accomplished if industry put people and planet over profit. Also, I appreciated the shout-out to the Green Party! We in the US aren't anywhere near as successful as our European counterparts, but we're working on it. (Here's hoping they come to their senses about that basic income policy plan that has it replace all or nearly all other financial support though. UBI would absolutely result in cut wages, even if that's made illegal, because business is all about maximizing profit, and so people who get financial support right now but see it removed under UBI would get their wages cut and then not have their current government income either, effectively leaving them in a worse position than they were in before. Write your local Green Party leadership!)
@ltamha
@ltamha 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video from you, I miss you still on Eurogamer but it's great to see you progressing and doing interesting pieces of investigative journalism. All the best from Yorkshire!
@phil6853
@phil6853 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Thanks for drawing attention to this issue, Chris. Looking forward to the next vid - hopefully answering that question posed at the end!
@op-up1645
@op-up1645 2 жыл бұрын
Dam mad props to SEGA, also props to "People Make Games"
@mattball8622
@mattball8622 5 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting! Recycling has always fascinated me, especially recently since, well, everything seems to be on fire. Good to have a little insight. On another note, of course the game on the top of that stack is Fire Emblem, if only because I don't think they do physical Switch copies of Into the Breach.
@exe2543
@exe2543 3 жыл бұрын
Bro for the first minute and a half I was thinking this video was about when game developers use the same game idea and mechanics and just have different art.
@UpTheAnte1987
@UpTheAnte1987 5 жыл бұрын
3:53 Doggo returns to the mothership
@nightcatarts
@nightcatarts 5 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling Anni had a lot of fun doing the animation on this one.. Back when I had several hundred DVDs & PS2 games I had to get rid of due to the amount of space they were using, I managed to empty all the cases & get them to a proper recycling centre, putting all the discs themselves on 50-disc spindles instead. This condensed my collection enormously &, since CeX won't take games with even the tiniest of cracks at the spindle (thanks, Slim PS2) this seemed like the best option. Then, once I finally decided to get rid of all the spindles, I took them to a different place & a guy working there saw them & practically grabbed them out of my hands along with all my PS1 games because he happened to be a retro nerd. With other items, I've found that leaving them next to the pavement with a little note saying "Please take" works really well around here. Scrap collectors drive around in their vans & will pick up bulky items for free when they see them (whereas they might dump them if you have to pay or ask them to take something away), sometimes neighbours will take things they can use, etc, & then there's stuff like Freegle too. It'd be great if all this plastic packaging stopped at the source, but at least there are options.
@FlorSilvestre12
@FlorSilvestre12 2 жыл бұрын
That U.K. paper recycling figure makes me want to cry. Only one of the four neighborhoods I've lived in here in the U.S. - the most affluent of the four - has offered any kind of recycling pickup at all. Recycling centers are often remote enough that they're not accessible to poor people without cars or gas money. Recycling is basically a luxury here and I don't understand why it's like this.
@jamyskis
@jamyskis 5 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why people quote GameStop/Game/CeX prices when trying to argue that you get nothing for used games. Commercial resellers are there to rip you off, the big ones in particular. Sell it on eBay or local classified ads and you'll easily get the actual market value (about 4-5 quid) plus shipping minus 10-12% marketplace fees. Of course, Prototype 1 & 2 won't fetch you as much as incredibly common games - 360 games won't start gaining in value for 4-5 years yet. Also: Never understood why 360 games go for so cheap whereas PS3 games have gained so much in value.
@ohnoitschris
@ohnoitschris 5 жыл бұрын
I figure it's because older 360s have incredibly high mortality rates, and the final UI the 360 ended up with is terrible. Though, PS3 games weren't worth much for ages, but now they are, go figure
@jamyskis
@jamyskis 5 жыл бұрын
@@ohnoitschris It does usually take two generations for a console's back catalogue to find value, especially as many shops continue to stock last-gen titles for a long time. Also, PS3/360 disc games won't start to really rise in value until online connectivity for the 360/PS3 is disabled, given that many of these games are still digitally available.
@DenisRyan
@DenisRyan 5 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video doc! Well done! Where I live, Vancouver BC, we have a zero waste center near us that recycles everything from the usual paper and cardboard, to Styrofoam and plastic bags and wrapping, scrap metals and fabrics, electronics and more. We're down to emptying our actual garbage bin once every month, if even and usually only because it's started to smell, rather than the bin being full. It feels really great, even if I haven't investigated how much of that is actually recycled to the point of positive environmental impact.
@MrJonyish
@MrJonyish 4 жыл бұрын
It is really cute and relatable as a video creator myself that you were acting in the opening scene. To either pre recorded or pre stolen footage as your LCD TV has a hard to record screen. Faking that attack and all, also PS I don’t do my work on this channel only old YTPS, from my early teen days. Love your videos I aim for your professionalism and style lovely content!
@DanTheGirMan
@DanTheGirMan 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe, the Football Manager series could make their box bigger, and have a big manual detailing everything and pretty artwork and we'll come full circle to 90's PC game boxes!
@milesjacobson3596
@milesjacobson3596 5 жыл бұрын
we were the first PC game to move away from those huge boxes and onto the PS2 style cases at the start of the century. Got a lot of flack for it back then. But those boxes had no recycled materials in them at all, were printed using toxic ink, and had CD's/DVD's in the same plastic cases that music companies use, which are the worst of the lot for recyclibility.
@danielarraj753
@danielarraj753 5 жыл бұрын
Liked just for the "is... Is there?" Line at the end
@strawberrylemonadelioness
@strawberrylemonadelioness 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason my first thought was about asset flip games rather than actually physically recycling it.
@KyrstOak
@KyrstOak 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer, this video hurts.
@Y81715
@Y81715 Жыл бұрын
Ja Chris and Co. Let's not forget the UK scheme recycling direct into Malaysian landfills - that not unlikely either
@theDegausser
@theDegausser 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving the effort you two put into these videos. Great stuff! But I would’ve really liked a section about game cartridges... I know they are out of date for the most part, but what about physical copies of Nintendo Switch games? Really loving the channel, but would love to see a follow up video, or possibly an article we could read from PMG about cartridge recycling. Keep up the great work!
@iNerdier
@iNerdier 4 жыл бұрын
My local dump in Lambeth won't even let me in because I don't have a car.
@h4724-q6j
@h4724-q6j 2 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather own a nicely printed cardboard game box or case than the same plastic one used by every other game.
@OriginalPiMan
@OriginalPiMan 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what recycling options there are in Australia for this. I'd guess it is supposed to go in with the curbside recycling (paper, plastic, metal, and glass all goes in the one bin here), but a lot of that is stockpiling ever since China and several other Asian countries stopped accepting imported waste for recycling. We don't currently have the capacity built to recycle everything inside our borders, but that is very slowly being rectified.
@f4rr3r
@f4rr3r 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo have certain rules for the designs of game boxes (standard logos, standard size etc) so would their guidelines potentially prevent console game publishers from moving over to more sustainable packaging?
@callum2474
@callum2474 5 жыл бұрын
10p?! For a classic?! A CLASSIC! Last time I have Cex!
@richardtickler8555
@richardtickler8555 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of industries still refuse to use recycled plastic in large quantities. The mechanical and optical qualities are lower than in new plastic and in some industries (eg. med tech) its basically banned
@konakuma1289
@konakuma1289 4 жыл бұрын
The big question: What happens when you accidentally stand on the paper case? PS1 cases were the worst to be stood on
@EmceeJoseph
@EmceeJoseph 2 жыл бұрын
For people who do want to get rid of their old games, eco-friendly packaging that isn't going to stick around stubbornly is needed, but for people who maintain digital archival collections meant to last more than decades out of a love for the medium it's really important that DRM be not so egregious that archivists are unable to make and use working archival copies. A paper box might need a little more attention to archive long-term than a plastic one, but archivists can handle that much better than DRM that actively fights them.
@scruffopone3989
@scruffopone3989 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a fantastic video on a subject that I care quite a bit about. Very well done Chris and Anni~
@HockeyRup
@HockeyRup 5 жыл бұрын
Time was if I heard someone say granulator I'd think "Mmm, sugar (lumps)." Now I think of a terrified anthropomorphic disk being fed into a machine full of knives. Crumbs!
@Montagne1234
@Montagne1234 3 жыл бұрын
For a lot of games you will immediately launched into hell
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 4 жыл бұрын
In Canada (or rather, my little corner of it), we have a system that gives people a reason to go to the city's recycling stations once in a while for the stuff that can't go to curbside pickup (the biweekly trucks that go around and collect recycling and garbage and compost), and it's actually a system that helps get money to the more enterprising among the homeless people to help them make ends meet as well....if one that's rather exploitative. Most packaged drinks, as part of the price, have an environmental protection deposit - it's handled much the same way we handle PST and GST (types of VAT) - the company selling it collects the money and sends it off where it needs to go - in this case, it goes to the company that handles the recycling centers. They then pay that money back to whoever brings them the empty drink container (bottle, jug, whatever it is). In cities large enough to support it, there's a subset of the homeless population that goes around to various places, collecting people's leftover bottles and turning in piles of them to the recycling center - it's definitely not enough to make ends meet, but it makes things a bit easier. In most cities, if you, as a more well off person, are out and about, you generally leave an empty bottle of whatever you were drinking next to the garbage bin rather than throwing it in - Vancouver's bins are actually built such that you can stick about 2 dozen bottles on them without blocking access to the bin itself or having them blown away in the wind. When I was attending university there, my undergrad society had worked things out with one particular guy who'd drop by on his wanderings and collect all of the bottles left behind at our clubhouse. (This is definitely not how things should be done, but in the shitty system we have for the poorest folk in Canada, it's at least *something* going their way.) Aside from that, most people collect their bottles in a separate bin at home, and eventually take it in when they've filled it up. But these recycling centres also cover all the stuff that doesn't have the environmental deposit on it, and since they're taking a bin of stuff there anyway, people usually bring along a smaller collection of other specialized recyclables. Not everyone, and even those that do probably don't know everything they should be collecting for that purpose, but there's enough people who bring a few things along with the bottles they're getting paid to bring (technically, having their deposit refunded, but...not how most people see it) that I suspect they're only bothering to take that stuff in because they're getting money for the bottles and they might as well recycle stuff properly since they're already going there. All in all, they get about 75-80% of the drink containers back through this system. It's not perfect, but it's a much higher rate of recycling than most products have, even the ones that are covered by curbside pickup.
@SpectreDusk
@SpectreDusk 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid Bratters! Can't help but question the thought process of the plebs who give videos like this a thumbs down. It's very well edited, great information and has a bloody doggo in it! What's not to like? Well except for the Nord sponsor but that's another conversation entirely.
@chandler3616
@chandler3616 4 жыл бұрын
I use to co-chair the LGBTIQA+ Greens and am an Avid gamer. In Nottinghamshire where I live, the council claims we are super advanced, but only clear plastic, and bottles/tubs 1L or less gets recycled. Rest is contaminant. Milk bottle caps need separating too or they throw the bottle given speed work at. I imagine whole box would but chucked for a game which is sickening. Our mayor is Green and a friend and has been to the recycling facilities and is passionate so I hope we see progress soon. thanks for the great video!
@ValleyOfWillows
@ValleyOfWillows 3 жыл бұрын
The way to do it: go to your local pawn shop, ask how much they would give you for the game, then go sell the game online for that price and cut out the middle man.
@dhammano5275
@dhammano5275 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it and wait so the value is good in like 2030
@chilldude30
@chilldude30 5 жыл бұрын
That graph was so cute. Never thought I'd say that
@CheshiraXGrin
@CheshiraXGrin 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think I might try to forward this along to my mom to see if it's something she or one of her coworkers can use-- she's a college chemistry professor and runs a lot of science outreach programs for middle/high schoolers, and even though we're in the US, I think this might be something that could be interesting for an earth day type event or something.
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the energy use of digital games (end to end) is?
@caid0229
@caid0229 5 жыл бұрын
Happy Christmas you two.
@kentslocum
@kentslocum 3 жыл бұрын
It hurts me that manufacturers should design their products to be recycled and made of recycled materials, rather than hoping it will be.
@FilipeGomesDrummer
@FilipeGomesDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
If there were bins like those to recycle games, and dvds I'd live next to it lol
@Kykyotai
@Kykyotai 5 жыл бұрын
Good video with an interesting look on the recycling industry in the UK. However the choice of sponsor might not have been the best because NordVPN had a relatively recent incident where one of their europen servers were hacked for quite a few months and they didn't disclose after they found out either. They weren't transparent with their customers and when caught they downplayed the situation as "Nothing more than a minor incident". Anyways, keep up the good work.
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 3 жыл бұрын
No commercial VPN provider is a good sponsor but KZbin revenue is so unreliable that creators have to walk a murky ethical line to be able to eat. I agree though.
@jimhoffman2009
@jimhoffman2009 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this a year later, and my first thought is "OMG I played Prototype So MANY TIMES!!"
@timhuester7721
@timhuester7721 6 ай бұрын
3 Big problems with plastic recycling: 1. There are many (thousands)different plastic types, which rarely can be differentiated fully by machines. 2. Only a part of it can even be recycled. Or rather can be recycled efficiently, because often, very complex chemistry is necessary, which is rarely worth it, for such a cheap resource 3. Because of impurities, even successful recycling means a downgrade in purity, which leads to worse characteristics like reduced flexibility, which is a huge deal for a resource, that's literally called "plastic". That's also why in his recycling example, the material is not used for cd packaging any more.
@dr_n-t
@dr_n-t 5 жыл бұрын
People make games to people destroy games... the full lifecycle of a game
@clorofolle
@clorofolle 3 жыл бұрын
Oh it would be REALLY interesting to look at how sustainable digital vs physical copies are! I tend to always buy digital to reduce waste but that video ending... 👀
@MozilloGames
@MozilloGames 5 жыл бұрын
Dammit Bratters! I've been vaguely drafting a very similar video (not as investigative as this though) that's like, a call out to next gen games that should be in cardboard sleeves... like vinyls are. S: Anyway, love your work!
@PeopleMakeGames
@PeopleMakeGames 5 жыл бұрын
Aha, I know that feeling!! Please do still make the video, I'd love to see it :) -Chris
@julsmelrose
@julsmelrose 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see more content like this. It reminds me of tv shows called "how it's made" and "popular mechanics for kids" 😂
@JamesMitchellTV
@JamesMitchellTV 5 жыл бұрын
THE DOG 😭😭😭😭♥️♥️♥️♥️
@SnmRecall
@SnmRecall 5 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos, fascinated to think how you actually, come up with the ideas
@SPFLDAngler
@SPFLDAngler 4 жыл бұрын
Also how can you scrap prototype?.. that game is flipping awesome and replayability is top.
@Magic__7
@Magic__7 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the box close so the disc dose not full out
@Hazz3r
@Hazz3r 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! I've actually just been doing some clearing out of my own. I think it would have been interesting to include Special or Limited Editions of Games. I currently have the box of a Black Ops 2 Hardened Edition that I want to get rid of, but I have no idea how to recycle it. I'm keeping the steelbook and the game. It's just the outer packaging and extras that I want rid of. You didn't happen to look into that and left it out of the edit did you?
@BoogerDad
@BoogerDad 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly feels like it should be a cheaper cost. Like, recycled paper obviously should be cheaper right? No easy answer to this one.
@NTSTS0
@NTSTS0 5 жыл бұрын
This is some pretty wholesome informative content, fam.
@Arjay404
@Arjay404 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, so Sports Interactive is going back to what we used to do in the 90s-00s which worked perfectly fine? Seriously those old boxes were much better than the plastic ones, since each of them were unique, the plastic boxes are so generic that nobody wants to keep them, the paper cover is the only thing of any collectible valuer, whereas the paper ones are all unique and because of that are more likely to be held unto by the player. A while ago when I had to clean up my closet, I took all the sleeves out of the plastic boxes and kept those but then threw away the cases. The paper boxes on the other hand I kept those, even some that got a bit crushed, simply because even crushed they are still nicer then just having a sleeve.
@noahgraham7945
@noahgraham7945 5 жыл бұрын
Another stellar episode!
@tams805
@tams805 5 жыл бұрын
Remember when games (PC games at least) used to come in cardboard boxes? Okay, they were comparatively huge and their provenance was probably not great, but it was at least on the right track.
@algi1
@algi1 5 жыл бұрын
So, which is better? Buying digitally or a physical disc?
@deetsitmeisterjd
@deetsitmeisterjd 5 жыл бұрын
Curious to what game you brought to that interview, it wasn't Prototype obviously 😂
@atomicladies
@atomicladies 5 жыл бұрын
And games like fallout 76 are sold in shops as game codes in cd boxes. :(
@ZanderEzekial77
@ZanderEzekial77 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you ever dispose of a video game though?
@stm7810
@stm7810 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, love the animations.
@TheDennys21
@TheDennys21 2 жыл бұрын
Ask Activision, they have been doing it for 20 years.
@bravegrumpy689
@bravegrumpy689 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, the most entertaining thing I got hung up on (living in the US) was that I didn’t know how much a quid or p was worth. Had he said pounds, I’dve understood. Turns out a “quid” is the British version of a “buck” in the context of money. And p is like cents. As an American, I’m sure I could get more than 10 cents for a disk! That is insulting.
@valfson1
@valfson1 3 жыл бұрын
4:20 finaly. Exact place for concole games.
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