Perception Outlaw 11.5 New Steering System and Trolling Motor Speed Control

After using my homemade steering system on my Perception Outlaw 11.5! I noticed some flaws with the design. The joystick was hard to control and speed hard to find the correct speed I was needing (See previous video). So I came with this new idea of steering my yak and I am loving it. I may change the parachute cord in the future for steering cable! But definitely this is the system I love to use on this setup. The speed is now control with a PWM DC motor speed control ordered from EBay and is the bomb.
The trolling motor mount was homemade and designed by myself. I can make you one if needed and I’ll give you all the information you may need to install and replicate my system. Feel free to contact me with any question you may have.

[@samuelbrooks8199]

Like the steering system. Good job sir. Also, you're definitely handy if you made that plate yourself! Outstanding fabrication.

[@spanglishangler]

Thank you sir. Glad you enjoy the video and appreciate my skills. Thanks for watching and the comment my friend.

[@conductor4Christ]

That variable speed control is an awesome idea. Looks great!

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks my friend. It makes my life easier to be honest. I am not running the old speed control! but I think I want this one back. Love to be able to hit a certain speed and able to track bait when using my cast net.

[@k9kayaks]

Very creative on the hand steering. Over all excellent set up 👍🎣

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks Benjamin for the kind words.

[@alan_leblanc]

Carlos this is badass! Looking forward to seeing your next video showing the motor controller.

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks Alan. Just got my GoPro and took it out last Saturday. Made few clips of me fishing! but been a new toy and having something else to worry about now! I forgot to make a more detail video of the steering and speed control. I should be out on the water soon and will definitely make another video trying to explain better the system.

[@anhl5091]

I've been looking for a simple steering mechanism for my trolling motor. This is it! Thanks Carlos!

[@spanglishangler]

Awesome Al, glad you like it. It works great and easy to do. Comments like this make my day.

[@MyChaoticFishing]

How has it lasted with using it a while?

[@davidmanevich1040]

That steering system is awesome. Thank you for this video. This was the main thing I've been looking for to add my trolling motor on my perception outlaw. I like your speed control also. I'm sure an extension could be added to steering also to use while standing up. Best outlaw mod I've seen to date. Thank you again

[@spanglishangler]

I am glad you like my modification. I really think is a great system and it works great. Yes,, I was thinking to add a longer PVC pipe to the steering to be able to steer while standing up looking for bait and cast the net. Sorry for the delay responding and Happy 2021. Stay tune for more videos soon. I am installing a Yamaha 2.5hp now on my Outlaw 11.5. It should be interesting.

[@waltermiller4071]

This is the one I've been looking for! Great setup brah! Going to email you for the bracket setup. This is a game changer setup my friend.

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks brother. Is a great system, you will love it. I received your email and request and I will be working on your order. Thanks

[@jklavarta53]

Simply awesome A very creative solution, thanks for sharing

[@spanglishangler]

Thank you sir. I really miss that setup. Super easy and simple and worked great. Maybe I can get my hands on another one and repeat the process. Thanks for watching and the comment.

[@davidmanevich1040]

I do Love your joystick steering system

[@spanglishangler]

Glad you like it my friend. Works great too. The perfect part is that attaches to the seat with two hose clamps with ease and not dameging the seat or yak.

[@f.a.r.outdoors6094]

Great video brother awesome idea

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks my friend. Now the struggle is getting a gas motor mounted. I have a Yamaha 2.5hp and it should be interesting.

[@jsanchez4652]

Like the setup I have the same kayak. Looking to install my motor soon just getting ideas

[@spanglishangler]

J Sanchez yes sir. Great kayak and value for the price. I tried different setups and this is definitely the winner for me. Cheap and easy to accomplish. Good luck my friend.

[@sadiamond7]

Great job so far......

[@spanglishangler]

Dave Salas thank you sir. I want to make sure I come out as the regular Joe that I am! and not the KZbinr kind of guy. The purpose of my videos are to help others having same issues like me and hope they learn something from my tryouts and failures. I want to make in more detail videos and on the water! But I have to wait until I get a better camera than my iPhone lol. Plus editing is not my thing and I want this to be fun and not just more work for me 👍🏼

[@sadiamond7]

@@spanglishangler ....I hear ya. Same here. Never did KZbin before till I got my Outlaw 11.5, And its been fun so far. I use both my phone and GoPro. My 1st few videos were from my GoPro 3 but I recently got a new GoPro 7 Black and it's amazing. I am learning as I go. I do plan to put a trolling motor on my some time but I have been seeing this Bixpy motor and I am seriously thinking about getting one....maybe next year. It's a bit pricey but so compact...and that's what I want. For now...it's just a thought.

[@spanglishangler]

@@sadiamond7 great. I will definitely check your videos. Yes, the Bixpy is a nice little motor and with the battery pack is definitely out of my price range. I can almost buy 9 of this Minn Kota 30lb and keep my cardio and exercise going lifting the 50lb battery I have now lol. About the GoPro! the 7 Black is what I have my eyes on. My friend have one and tells me the battery doesn't last much! but the quality and technology is the best (after the new 8 Black). Tight lines

[@grassCrow]

You are genius.

[@spanglishangler]

Wow, best comment that I ever received? Maybe Lol. Thanks brother, I try to think out of the box for sure and make my life easier.

[@edgarhall1799]

Very Nice 👌

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks brother. Work in progress for sure. Soon I will have a GoPro and be able to do on water videos.

[@chrisjandebeur9563]

I have to say the is the best trolling motor setup I've found. I've researched the Island Hopper DIY and tried to find a Slipstream Mach 1 or 2, but had no luck. I really liked the Slipstream for its ability to be removed easily, but it's no longer in production and never could find a cost for it. I'm in the same "boat" as Domingo in that I'd love it if you could replicate the plate for my Outlaw. i don't have access to a welding machine so makes the construction more difficult. I'm in NC.

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks my friend. I am proud of what I was able to put together especially been new to "powered" kayaks. Corp office is in Charlotte! and usually travel to the 10 SE states. But since March due to COVID I been stuck in FL. Send me an email to [e-mail] and I can send you some information. I am not really selling this mount! but would like to help others and obviously want to cover the cost of materials. So hit me up and I let you know the cost of the material.

[@joshknight456]

Carlos Rosa 1978 hey I sent you an email inquiring about getting these plate mounts from you. Look forward to hearing back thanks!

[@spanglishangler]

Josh Knight awesome Josh. Check your email for my response. 👍🏼

[@bethsmith1003]

“I’m not a super handy guy...” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@spanglishangler]

Well I am not :-) lol. You can asked my wife. I have a Honey Do List that is over 2 years old lol.

[@coleparkhurst8962]

Really like the steering set up but I would cross the lines so it aint backwards, u can push stick right and it would go right

[@spanglishangler]

Awesome man. Glad you like it. I was thinking to do the same. But after you go out 3 times or so! It gets easy to maneuver. But overall! Not a bad idea.

[@adhdandme]

thanks for the idea check out the link of my kayak I just put in the comments.

[@spanglishangler]

That is sweet man. Glad I was able to help somehow.

[@adhdandme]

@@spanglishangler yeah man thanks for the idea. that 2.5 outboard you now is dope!

[@spanglishangler]

@@adhdandme yes sir. That Yamaha is a bad a$$ little kicker. Makes kayaking/fishing more fun now for sure.

[@destineeone]

Hello I have a Crescent Litetackle 2 that I am looking to add a trolling motor on. I like your motor mount. Looks very clean, I’m curious… do you have any issues with the motor angling up out of the water when you have it on higher speeds? I was just wondering because I didn’t see any locking system for the mount to prevent tilting at the hinges when being used.

[@spanglishangler]

Hello there and glad you like my setup. I was planning to add a pin/locking mechanism to avoid the lifting of the motor while going on reverse. After the water test, that was not needed. The weight proportion of the trolling motor is perfect, and no lift motion happened during the period I use this setup. Good luck with your setup my friend.

[@peterpham4846]

I hope you got a back once the PWM blow. I went through 2 already from Ebay. They were all rated at 60AMP. I got an line fuse installed with 60AMP also...I am running a 40lbs Minn Kota motor...I had to setup an emergency hook up straight to the motor now if the PWM blow again. Its nice to control the motor with the PWM, but most of them are junk. I would not go without an emergency setup if you are using a PWM.

[@spanglishangler]

Indeed Peter. This PWM came with a cooling fan integrated and so far is working fine. But I take my regular Minn Kota 3/5 Speed Control with me in case I had any issues. But now I am mounting a 2.5hp Yamaha 4 cycle and definitly no issues with PWM blowing out :-). I am posting some videos of the Yamaha on my Outlaw but runign behind with the seatrial deu to the holidays, cold weather and family in town. Should be able to take it on the water this coming weekend.

[@DirtyCoastYakFishing]

Agreed! I’ve gone thru three and two were in the same day with some really rough 2ft chop on the bay I was crossing. Heat and load management kills them. Try running a cooling inside your box. A simple CPU fan for computers. Or vent your box. But a quick disconnect set up for easy plug and play in the event you have to go to your back up while on the water.

[@f.a.r.outdoors6094]

Can you tell me which speed knob you got for your kayak so that I can get one as well, thx, Paul

[@spanglishangler]

Here is the description of the PWM I purchased on eBay for my Outlaw. DC 10-55V 60A PWM Motor Speed Controller CW CCW Reversible Switch 12 24 NM. Hope this was helpful.

[@andylam83]

Amazing video . I was wondering how you do the speed controll instead of 5 speed ?

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks man. You will need to find a PWM on Amazon or eBay. They are great, but usually don’t last an entire season of fishing. So keep your regular speed control handy.

[@Kingmytyt104]

Hey I’m in the Tampa area to I got the same kayak and I got a Newport vessels 55lb trolling motor but want to do the remote and steering upgrade like you’ve done is there a way I can get a plate made I have already for mine but that looks like a nicer set up

[@spanglishangler]

Hello there my friend. I just received your email and I did send you the information. I am looking forward to hearing from you and help with this project. 👍🏼

[@Robert-bz5yn]

Nice setup. I have the same kayak. What size battery (amp hour) are you using, and how much runtime are you getting out of it? I'm considering going with a Minn-Kota Endura Max and lithium battery, but that setup will cost more than the kayak. What would you do differently if you could start over? Thanks for the video.

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks Robert. Great kayak in my opinion. Are you enjoying yours as much? I am using an Autocraft Deep Cycle Marine battery (Advance Auto Parts carry them). Part # 24DC-1 with Cold Cracking at 550amps and Reserve Capacity of 140. This battery should last me 2 hours and 30 minutes of constant use. But I been out for 2 to 3 miles trolling and the battery still have 75% of power. I love the battery for the price and what you get. I can by 3 of this for the price of one of the Lithium! but definitely if weight is a problem then Lithium is the way to go. This one weights about 46lb. Not a problem for me at this time and the kayak love and can keep up with the extra weight. What would I do differently if I could start over? Maybe not be so afraid to install the plate and guides and cut the floor for the space of the hatch, nerve wracking lol. Trust yourself, is only plastic,, no need to lose sleep over it :-). Also if you see my previous video I had another system (joystick style). That was a waste of time! but at the same time! that needed to happen, for me to be able to come with a better solution like is this now. Tight lines

[@timadams3975]

Just wondering if I used a similar bracket without the hinges if the tip of the trolling motor would miss the back of the kayak if the trolling motor just raised up and down? I love the joystick idea but would prefer the trolling motor to have some depth adjustment to it while out on the water.

[@spanglishangler]

Not sure exactly what you mean by not having the hinges. Do you mean a solid piece extending pass the kayak? If so, you can control how high the motor can go by installing a bottom C clamp on the bottom of the trolling motor shaft to the max ditance you want to raise. Thanks for watching and the comment and hope I was able to help.

[@timadams3975]

@@spanglishangler Yeah I meant one solid piece. Unfortunately the building I keep mine is only 12ft so I cant go that route because it will be too long to store it. I thinking I'll have to make the transom mount in 2 pieces. Probably a slide in type style will be what I will have to make. Thanks for your help.

[@spanglishangler]

@@timadams3975 I understand. Good luck my friend. 👍🏼

[@roberthubbard7827]

Okay, just thinking out loud here as I steal your joystick concept for my canoe 😀 Get the proper size copper pipe hanger, so you can attach it to your seat leg without damaging it. Add an eyebolt vertically. Through the eye bolt past the axle of a front hub assembly off a bicycle rim. ( Junk yards are full of them) Using the nut system already on the axle and some washers should keep it secure horizontally. Attached your steering cables to the holes where the spokes went.( I'd find something that would clip into the holes) as you'll most likely need to pack the bearings occasionally. Either fabricate or purchase one of those hand grinder wrenches used to tighten and remove the grinding wheel. May have to grind the prongs. Figure out proper placement to the outside hub section, drill proper holes that allow you to also mount it to the spoke area with nuts and bolts. You now have an easy L&R joystick. Now the fun part. Disassemble and dip all exposed parts in liquid rubber, pack the bearings and reassemble. Again just thinking out loud for my canoe, but see a fix for your kayak as well. Maybe. 😀

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks brother. Sounds great! But back in school I remember a professor telling us, the more components or parts any system haves! The greater the chances that something will go wrong. But I would like you to work on it and make it happen. Sounds like a great idea. I am now rocking a Yamaha 2.5hp outboard on my Outlaw and no need for this steering system at this time. Send some pics if you ever make this work on your canoe. Good luck and thanks for the comment and watching my friend.

[@roberthubbard7827]

@@spanglishangler will do. But currently am working on my cardboard removable casting deck with live well and storage system. Maiden voyage or sinking, set for March '22, the height of Striper season on Smith Mt Lake in VA. A bucket list trip over 30 yrs in the making.

[@davidmanevich1040]

Is there a reason why you didn't use a pvc 90 at the top of the motor shaft so that it would stick up so high. Or just didn't think of it at time

[@spanglishangler]

Hello David. To be honest, I did find it kind of cool looking that way. But definitly an elbow would make it look slick now that you mentioned.

[@sparkiekosten5902]

does the motor kick up when in reverse? How is the steering arm with room between the legs? How do you lift the motor if you get shallow? Sorry for all the questions but I really like the way you designed this system and would like to know if I ever copied it!

[@spanglishangler]

Hello Sparkie. The motor will slightly tilt for a second when put on reverse but not enough to cause any issues with the performance. I was going to put a face bolt similar to this (s3.amazonaws.com/harneyshopifypds/34816.pdf) but was no need after all. I have it! but no need to install it in my personal opinion and how I use my yak. The steering joystick is not on the way. I was even thinking to make it longer or have a longer piece that I can put on and off to make it easy to steer while I am standing up especially when throwing the cast net. The motor is lift with the rope attached to the back plate. I just literally turn around and pull on the rope. This kayak is so stable that sometimes I put my kneens on the seat and bend backwards to pull the plate up with the rope. Hpe that was helpful.

[@destineeone]

Can you please let me know where I can get the case for the PWM? Thanks

[@spanglishangler]

Is a Walmart product. Here is the description. Outdoor Products Small Watertight Dry Box, Blue Polycarbonate. Good luck and let me know if you need more information.

[@omarcortez138]

Hey Carlos I love the set up! Curious where you got the plates done. I live in GA and would love to buy one from ya

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks Omar. I personally made it. I have someone else interested and he is in Houston. My intentions was not to sell these, but I am happy to help fellow kayakers. I am still trying to figure out how to make this work for him (payment, shipping, etc). But I think we have it figure out and should start to make his by tomorrow. He is paying with PayPal. Contact me on my email so we can discuss this with more details and make sure is what you want and need and also get further instruction on the instillation and what is needed (simpler than what it sounds or looks).

[@omarcortez138]

Carlos Rosa 1974 I gotcha no worries. Best of luck!

[@markgorrell8097]

Like the box for pwm wondering where to get one like it

[@spanglishangler]

The PMW was purchased on Ebay. And then I purchased the plastic box at Walmart for weather/water protection.

[@vinceh5163]

Can you let me know if you have specs on how to do the steering mod and most importantly what you would charge to do the bracket like the simple design to lift motor. I have a buddy that can do the bracket im sure but if you charge a decent price i like to see what you would charge. Im going to buy an outlaw in a week so i have plenty of time to work on puting a trolling motor cause i have to. I need to get a good battery box.

[@spanglishangler]

Hey there. You will have a blast with the Outlaw. And yes, I will recommend to install a trolling motor if you can. I am still selling the motor mount plates. Just finished 2 sets today, one going to Alaska and the other one Pennsylvania. I use ¼” aluminum with stainless steel fasteners. Is the best for the environment I fish (salt water) and the plate is strong but light at the same time. This is a hobby for me. So I priced it correctly to cover for the material and just a bit extra for my time. Send me an email to crosa1974@gmail (.com). KZbin is funny with pricing and stuff on their platform. Let say that I sold over 75+ units around the entire nation and so far, everyone is 100% happy with the quality of work I do. Let me know if you need more information.

[@vinceh5163]

@@spanglishangler outstanding man will do no worries man all i can say your design is awesome.

[@davidmanevich1040]

Have you done a speed test yet? I'm leaning towards the 62lb thrust motor on my outlaw

[@spanglishangler]

I did couple of videos were you can see the speed. But I did not have a device to find the exact speed,, my bad. a 62lb would be a beast for sure. What battery you have in mind?

[@HunterPlays11]

Max limit on the outlaw is 4 mph any more you would be overloading the motor more than need be or yourself because the bow wake will slow you down and keep you at 4 mph

[@davidmurrin2900]

You need to add a 50 amp breaker to your battery side if your motor ever gets snagged it will fry your wiring maybe catch fire its worth it in the long run

[@spanglishangler]

The breaker is installed already,, not showing on video. Thanks

[@ReelTimeCapt]

Nice Job! What case did you use for your electronics? Thx

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks my friend. I went to Walmart on the camping side and found the box there. Try to google “Outdoor Products Small Watertight Dry Box, Polycarbon with Key Clip, Blue, 8.5" x 5.55" x 2.75". Only $5.88, can’t beat that. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Good luck.

[@chrischase6731]

Have you posted a new video of you newer steering system?

[@spanglishangler]

Hello. I am now using a gas outboard motor on my Outlaw. You can see the other designs on my KZbin channel = crosa 1974. Thanks for watching

[@chrischase6731]

@@spanglishangler gone from " to dang slow to gitty up. 😆

[@spanglishangler]

@@chrischase6731 😆. I can get to my fishing spot in less than half of the time it took me before and now I can cover more area and discover new places. Is fun for sure. I will be going out this weekend (if God permits) and see if I can make more videos of my want to be kayak micro skiff lol.

[@edgarvilmanyi3948]

Hello, great video, i want to do the same setup but passing the steering cable inside the kayak to hide them, do you think is possible? i will email you for the back plate, thanks.

[@spanglishangler]

Thanks Edgar. Yes,, is doable to put the cables inside. I was thinking to do the same to make it look cleaner. I still making the plates, so hit me up if interested. Thanks for watching.

[@Davidfca1]

Could you please let me know what max speed you reach wth the motor. Thank you

[@spanglishangler]

Hello my friend. I wish I could remember that. I will check some of the othe videos where i think I posted that information. 5 to 6 mph comes to mind! but can't confirm.

[@jarrodwagoner8427]

Like those custom mounts! Interested in making 2 sets of em??

[@spanglishangler]

Jarrod Wagoner thanks brother. Making couple for another kayak fellow angler next week. Hit me up on my email for details. Where are you located? The other guy is in Houston and the other one somewhere in GA. I am in the Tampa Bay Area. [e-mail]

[@jarrodwagoner8427]

Carlos Rosa 1974 good deal! Sent an email, may check your junk/spam folder.

[@MyChaoticFishing]

How has the steering lasted? Any updates or changes you’ve made?

[@spanglishangler]

Hello there. Thanks for the question. It did great on my year and a half of use. I sold my Outlaw and now using a Striker Skiff with a 6hp outboard. Last time I talked to the gentleman (last December) that purchased my kayak, he said everything was working flawless. I still making the motor mounts for the Outlaws. I still get request almost every other week about this setup. Sold over 40 of them around USA and so far, it is getting great feedback. Hope this help answering your question. Thanks for watching.

[@vinceh5163]

I just got the outlaw can you send me specs for the setup for the trolling motor steering and im sure ill be ordering the plates from you.

[@spanglishangler]

Sorry for the late reply. If you still interested! I can help you with the motor mount plate. Let me know if you need more information.

[@mprice7676]

Hey Carlos, I also have the Outlaw and am interested in the trolling motor plate you designed, slick! How do I go about buying one from you?

[@spanglishangler]

Hello there. Reach out to me for more information. Glad you like it. Crosa1974@gmail

[@adhdandme]

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[@zark524]

@@spanglishanglerjust emailed you to see if you had any dimensions…. Let me know if you have anything that could save us time redesigning. I am part of a local river cleanup group that uses these kayaks for trash and debris removal.

[@ImVietNamino]

What size pvc?

[@spanglishangler]

Ufff, I can't recall. Sorry. Maybe 1/2"?, again, sorry.

[@tab7759]

What is the price for the bracket?

[@spanglishangler]

Hello T. Prices vary from $150 to $250. Depends if you just need the plates are also wants the fasteners, hinges, predrilled holes, etc. Send me an email and let me know what you need and I’ll send you the difference prices. [e-mail] thanks.

[@Fishing_with_Domingo]

How much will you charge me to make me a plate just like that which my kayak is the same as yours. Please let me know. Thanks

[@spanglishangler]

Hello Domingo. I can make a replica of this plate for about $100. This is not my line of work! but wont mind to help someone else with this project. Plus I don't want to come like I am selling this. But definitely want to cover for the material. All you will need is to buy couple SS hinges and 3 bolts, washers and nuts to install the plate. Where do you live? I am in Wesley Chapel/Land O' Lakes area (Florida).

[@Fishing_with_Domingo]

@@spanglishangler I'm in Texas

[@spanglishangler]

Domingo Contreras I see. Let me know if you need my help my friend.

[@adhdandme]

check out my latest up date.

[@spanglishangler]

Very neat man. Sorry for the delay. Hope things are going great for you.