5 Times Survivor Players Made Incredible Moves... that Backfired

[@PhillipOnTakos]

I like how despite Keith saying "Stick to the Plan" it still took Natalie telling him to play the idol to save himself.

[@SpanishFly120]

What I always love is that when Jon responds with "are you sure", she basically throws her hands up, exasperated, like "fuck it, I tried", lol.

[@Exz84]

They were so clueless, she still had to explain it to them after the votes were counted.

[@berrybaby1570]

RIP 🕊️

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

Malcolm scerwed himself by saying we're voting for Philip.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

I think he was screamed regardless, final 9 and a major challenge threat for Brenda, Andrea and Cochran At best I think the alliance safe votes Phillip or Sherri out of Malcolm doesn’t name anyone

[@ryanjustin1676]

@@XanderMatthews-nv9zfbut by saying he’s voting for Philip he didn’t even give the other alliance a chance to turn on each other yet which could have reshuffled the deck thus making them valuable key swing votes instead of the ones to be picked off. He definitely should’ve at least waited until they were about to vote to grasp what the other people were saying

[@pogodziej]

Yeah, he should've been like "You guys tell us whom to vote. We're listening. "

[@SmoothCriminal12]

What he should've done is not reveal they had idols, play the idols as he did, then only vote for each other to cause it to be a no vote tribal. Now the majority have to cave in on each other and give the three amigos a good chance going forward.

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

@XanderMatthews-nv9zf By saying Philip he gave everyone to get out of your free card.

[@sammywurtman6302]

About Chet’s vote off I’ve always said they can force him to vote Ozzy out. Ami, Erik and Tracy votez Ozzy, Cirie and Amanda vote Chet. And Chet can vote for anyone because he can’t vote for himself. If he doesn’t vote ozzy on the first vote on the revote it won’t matter because he can’t vote and ozzy would be voted out 3/2

[@harrdeeharr]

This is a really excellent point yhat I’ve never realized. Maybe Erik and Tracy wouldn’t have been cold enough to force Chet to stay in the game if he really wanted to quit, but if they were, this would have been amazing.

[@feasible]

All of these plans have inherent flaws EXCEPT Reed's. He just got screwed by Keith being a dumbass.

[@NYChica23]

I'd argue that relying on Keith for pulling off any big moves was the main flaw in Reed's plan

[@supermish8912]

Amie’s plan lowkey would’ve been a banger

[@crosscourttennis1796]

Highkey

[@SpanishFly120]

One thing I hear suggested about Malcolm's Caramoan move is that they should've split their votes among three different people. The idea is if Malcolm WAS going to say anything about their votes, saying they're splitting, not changing, and refusing to give names, would've not only forced the majority to think on their position, but potentially led people to not vote for Malcolm/Eddie.

[@eagerturtle4791]

I feel like if the Amigos left it up to the rest of the tribe, they probably just vote Sherri out and stay together afterwards. I really am not sure what could have done!

[@thesuperfan2457]

agree with this idea, especially if they tell the rest of the tribe that the people they vote for are completely random. This would lead to people worrying about whether they are the one to be voted for and whether they would get voted out on a revote

[@Stay_Zerose]

This is what I though when I first saw the move, forces the majority to turn on each other, because they can stab each other in the back first and protect themselves, or stay strong, flush the idols and still have to turn on each other. Even the worst case scenario gives room to make moves in the next round.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

This plan just run at a severe risk of being outplayed by any random votes, had someone like Andrea got paranoid or had they picked a bad 3 with an easy consensus this plan falls apart

[@SpanishFly120]

@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Not necessarily. If they vote for 3 different people and keep their votes the same, then yes, it's making someone like Andrea, as you said, go into paranoid self-preservation mode.

[@shadowninja6689]

Sarah should have NEVER been allowed to give that advantage to Cirie in the first place, it's a clear violation of the rules, and just leaves everyone looking very scummy all around.

[@starskunk]

With the way Survivor handles non-transferable power/idols, even if the advantage itself is nontransferable, the token/clue representing it can still be passed off to another player, as there are valid reasons to do so - aka if someone is snooping through stuff for proof someone has idols/advantages, you can hand off said advantage to someone else that is not suspected of having it and have them hand it back later. The only rule is that while it can be given to someone else freely by the owner, the receiver MAY NOT use it if it specifically says whatever it does cannot be transferred, and as it may not be stolen, if the original owner asks for it back, it MUST be returned.

[@AV-jh2ss]

One more problem with the Three Amigos blindside was that they decided to vote Phillip out because he was annoying. They completely ignored Andrea and Brenda who were great at challenges, and Cochran who was running the whole game. One thing to remember is to keep the annoying player as long as possible. They don’t win - Sherri (Caramoan), Angelina (David vs. Goliath), and soon Q (46).

[@dna507]

To be fair, I think Phillip still beats Dawn and Sherri in a final 3

[@MrWanton16]

I think Dawn would have been the optimal target if not Cochran because its thru her that he was able to maintain so many relationships to begin with

[@AV-jh2ss]

And now Q (aka “Q”uitter) is officially voted out!

[@silentassasin-q8l]

Correct me if I’m wrong, Dom’s flashy fake idol “play” in ghost island that caused Sebastian to switch his vote which led to him being voted out should be an honorable mention, it ended up costing him Sebastian’s vote

[@uglyaniimals]

great call

[@cheese4013]

Still think Reed's plan would have been one of the most epic moves of all time. Shame that it didn't work out, even though we still got an iconic moment/tribal.

[@josabby474]

I can’t fault Aimee for her plans, but I’m glad they didn’t work. Cirie made the merge in Micronesia one of the best.

[@hannahfaithshyer]

I count this as a move but maybe others won’t - Mikayla using the rocks & sticks to explain the vote to Will & Jay in Millennials vs Gen X. Her plan was great, she had the numbers and knew where to put them but in explaining it freaked out her Allies and she was sent packing.

[@NYChica23]

I'd say that move backfired more on Jay than it did on Michaela, because there's another good example of making a big move just so you can say you made one without giving much thought to what comes afterwards. By taking out Michaela too soon, Jay loses Hannah as a number, since she wasn't going to work with him after he'd just left her completely in the dark, and in saving Bret, he just gave all the numbers to the Gen X + Hannah/Adam side, because Bret wasn't going to side with Jay and Will over his number one ally in Chris

[@noahstein6990]

I've always thought Malcolm should've said nothing, played both idols, and then the three of them each for a different person to cause maximum chaos because then everyone would through each other under the bus.

[@liamthompson7853]

I mean when youre causing this much drama at a tribal council, you might as well mention that now's the time for somone to make you an offer for your vote, tbh. Similar effect, but might actually spark something if someone desperate or ambitious enough tries to make it happen in front of everyone.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

The question then dons on which 3 you’d be picking, being in the minority means your view of the game is always going to be skewed. Phillip wasn’t the head of the snake, the trio/quartet of Erik Dawn, Cochran and Brenda were. One wrong vote on Phil, Andrea or Sherri gives the majority an easy pile on target

[@ximenaramos9295]

Heidi in Season 44. When the merge tribe was split and she had the power to control a vote. If she had either forced Lauren to vote for Jamie or vice versa, YamYam and Matt could have taken that as a signal to vote for one of the two, making the votes 2/3, saving both YamYam and Matt and taking out a majority alliance player (while the third alliance member won immunity). zit feels like the producers had that move in mind when designing the episode, but instead Heidi threw a vote on YamYam. If she did this big move, she might've won

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

That’s actually really easy to counter from the Ratu side of Brandon, Lauren and Jaime Lauren’s extra vote undoes basically anything Heidi can do, if Heidi plays the advantage against Jaime or Lauren, Lauren is passing that advantage to Brandon eliminating Matt or Yam Yam 4-2 or 2-2-2 and getting Matt on a revote.

[@jamesvincent4458]

So hyped for this episode! In Qs words, Making what you thought was a big move.....Big mistake!

[@78konjo]

Idk how we can say Jesse's move on Cody was wrong? I think Jesse's game was as optimal as he could, he just didnt win final challenge and firemaking.

[@viliusvaisvila4510]

In my eyes Jesse and Cody could finished similar like Dom and Wendel. I don't think Jesse move was very good and I doubt that other players should have somewhat similar mentality in that situation.

[@harrdeeharr]

I loved the move, l especially with the idol to get through final 5. The problem was that it made him so blatantly the biggest threat on the board at final 4 that he had to win one of two challenges, and he had done nothing all season to instill confidence in his challenge prowess. I think the video lays it out well- if he had taken out Cassidy or Gabler at final 5, considering they’re the ones who beat him in the final challenge and firemaking, he would have had a better shot. Higher risk of letting Karla reach the end, but higher chance of winning himself.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Flushing Karla’s idol was a major waste since Owen and Cassidy were way bigger challenge threats, Jesse probably could have beaten Karla at the end and would have a better chance at the immunity challenge

[@junkerinhistrunker]

I think people get caught up in the drama of the move. It's very much the poster child of new era resume buiding take out your number 1 BIG moves, but to me it showed very little foresight into how the rest of the game would transpire and I still say Jesse beats Cody in a final three. (if nothing else, compare their stories: Jesse escaping a gang to then go on to be a father and fight for social justice. Cody- "livin'")

[@HQofrandom]

Notice how the title is moves that backfired. His move was great, but it still backfired

[@janejones7638]

I've got an Applebee's gift certificate. Can't wait to use it and watch Survivor tonight.

[@dinohall2595]

The crazy part is Applebee's is getting some of the best advertising it's ever gotten as a Survivor sponsor and it doesn't even feel forced because it really is part of the season's narrative.

[@JuanRodriguez-tf7fh]

Karishma, that you?

[@NYChica23]

@@JuanRodriguez-tf7fh Nope...it's Liz

[@primalmagikarp269]

2:03 no he wasn't? at final 6 when Jesse made the move, cody had 1 individual immunity win, gabler had 1, owen had 2, karla had 2, and cassidy had 2. karla was injured but owen and cassidy were both clearly emerging as the biggest challenge threats on the season

[@nicholasmarotta2107]

I've rly been getting into reality TV shows solely because of you and some of the other big channels. I anxiously await uploads. Great job!

[@johndebono1870]

I think the underrated pick here is the Four Horseman's plan in Fiji to blindside the person least likely to have an idol, only to for the other alliance to have the exact same plan.

[@JuanRodriguez-tf7fh]

Cirie couldnt use the steal a vote, but non transferable doesnt mean that Cirie had to give it back to Sarah Cirie could've just held onto it, refused to give it back, making it lose its power

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

If she tries that then she’d burn her bridges with Sarah and likely becomes the secondary target over Aubry at the final 6 It really doesn’t benefit her at all to piss Sarah off

[@deltagolavista1]

I disagree with the Malcolm assessment. If he didn't say Phillip, the alliance would be just voting out Sherri at that point instead as she wasn't part of the original alliance, and the only potential person of the seven who might have flipped to the three amigos if some other twist of fate saved them. If this was done prior to Tribal, and it forced the entire tribe to scramble and become paranoid, then it might have caused more chaos. But at tribal, it's always the easy vote. i think at that point in the game, Malcolm just wanted to show Phillip that he wasn't Boston Rob and he was never in control of the game like Phillip thought he was. Malcolm knew his days were numbered because of his threat level and just wanted to outlast the joke character.

[@NoLucksGiven]

What do you think of Sandra's exit in W@W on this list? I think it's one of the best plays that should've happened, but didn't. Tony winds up winning, further vindicating Sandra's plan.

[@NYChica23]

Definitely, because that's a clear example of making a big move just as a resume builder without thinking of what happens next. Denise was so blinded by her own ego in being the one to take out Sandra, but she didn't stop to think that having Sandra as a number would be a much smarter play in the long run

[@TDRyan]

I'm here early for once!!! I'm excited to watch another great video!!!

[@Ren_Davis0531]

I would actually push back against Malcolm’s move being an incredible move. Like you said, Malcolm neutralized his own power during the move that predictably kept the status quo the same and got him booted next. To me an incredible move that backfires is something that maximizes the odds for victory, yet still ultimately fails because in the long run the worst case scenario still happened. If someone increases their odds from a 4-1 chance of losing to a 5-1 chance of winning, but the one still happens that makes them lose then I don’t consider that a bad move. It’s just that the lower odds prevailed. Malcolm undercut his own maximization during the move, thus it ended up not being incredible. It was a flash in the pan. Exciting to see for a split second, but nothing to show for it after it’s done.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Emily Flippen style language 😂

[@teamsteed1]

Thank you for posting the video.

[@hikarukinomoto]

I really hate how Sarah said "Actually that's MY advantage" she sounds so whiny

[@crazyinsanepenguin]

i FUCKING HATE IT when people claim their belongings 😡😡🤬

[@hikarukinomoto]

@@crazyinsanepenguin It's not that, it's her tone "That's MY advantage" really she sounds uselessly whiny and petty

[@freddytang2128]

Can you blame her for being whiny? Cirie tried to play her advantage against the rules. Keep in mind people that’s been starved and sleep deprived for a month, tend to be more moody and irritated by everything

[@hikarukinomoto]

@@freddytang2128 oh yes of course I Can Totally understand the emotions being more intense and that people can more easily annoyed and frustrated and I understand when they cry because they miss their family even when just a week of game left....but I still think that Sarah sounds whiny and annoying

[@NYChica23]

@@hikarukinomoto Because everyone's gonna be in a good mood and talk in a polite tone of voice when being sleep deprived and starving, right?

[@freddytang2128]

Its unfortunate that in Micronesia everyone knows idols are only found on exile island. If this was a new era season, Ami could have told Ozzy Cirie and Amanda "who knows if Tracy found an idol in a tree, lets split our votes to make it 2-2-2"

[@enderdude13]

You are so right about Jesse needing to keep Karla around till final 4. Im shocked ive never seen anyone else say this

[@yoloyolo-bj3by]

thank you for calling gout jesses bad gameplay... the move was flashy but he lowered his chances of making the final 3 by so much by not keeping karla around... and he acted like a baby when Cassidy didn't want to give up immunity which made me lose respect for him

[@dinohall2595]

Not "bad gameplay" per se since he did at least take out his main competition and, in so doing, effectively guaranteed his win if he did make the Final 3. The logistics just didn't quite work and he ended up against one of the best Final 4 fire-makers we've ever seen.

[@NYChica23]

@@dinohall2595 He would've still had a win guaranteed against Karla though...if he takes Cassidy out at 5 instead, he eliminates one comp threat and by going against an injured Karla in immunity. he realistically only has Owen as his main immunity threat, so that would've left him in a scenario where either he beats Owen at the final immunity, or he goes into fire against an injured Karla, which either option results in him ending up in F3

[@dinohall2595]

@@NYChica23 Was it really a guaranteed win against Karla? She easily gets James's vote and has a good shot at the other Coco members'. Jesse could beat her, but she'd give him a hard time.

[@NYChica23]

@@dinohall2595 I meant guaranteed win in the sense that he could beat her either in an immunity challenge or firemaking easier than he could any of the other three, not that he was guaranteed an FTC win against her

[@MrWanton16]

I've always wondered who goes home at the Phillip vote had the 3 Amigos kept quiet about their plans. My guess is Sherri or Andrea

[@NolanDoesNotCount]

An interesting thing I think the 3 amigos could have done in their situation is not reveal that they had 2 idols. The majority still splits votes that will ultimately be nullified and Malcolm, Reynold, and Eddie split votes amongst 3 players in the majority (maybe Andrea, Brenda, and Cochran). Therefore on the re-vote, the majority has no choice but to vote for one of those 3. Not saying this is the only way to do this but it still causes a mad scramble and potential fractures afterwards with no easy way out.

[@nvm9040]

Honestly the Reed plan was brilliant to blindside John and he got his numbers but ofc Kieth screwed the plan so Natalie made John to use his idol so it became her game basically

[@eythorh092]

bro im like a million times as humble as you are

[@mississippitornado6842]

doing everything perfect and still losing, this is usually my luck in life

[@JamesMeyer2]

The best thing the Three Amigos could have done would have been to nullify all the votes (Malcolm, Eddie, and Reynold all vote within their alliance), not bring up anyone to vote out, and make the majority alliance vote out one of their own. It could have led to cracks in the alliance and new allies could have been available. Instead, with them saying they're voting Phillip, the majority alliance had an easy out.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Keep in mind a no votes tribal had never occurred so there was no expected result out of nullifying all of the votes. Phillip was just a bad target

[@nvm9040]

Micronesia is the most exciting season pre HvV’s grabbed two medical evacuations and a Kathy quit brings down the season a bit but the Micronesia is still great The gameplay is cutthroat and moves along nicely especially post swap when dynamics change so the black widow brigade Forms

[@CalumFahey]

Great analysis! More please

[@glennservito299]

Gabler donating ALL of his winnings to charity makes him the MOST ULTIMATE SURVIVOR winner.

[@TheMurrmursonbottle]

it makes him generous, idk about all that though

[@GamingFanactic911]

He just wanted a million hearts...oh wait wrong person😅😂

[@HQofrandom]

Nah, it technically makes him the poorest

[@crazyinsanepenguin]

it makes him a sucker. jetski > charity

[@cadenparker35]

My sister was PISSED when Cody got blindsided

[@benjaminh8681]

It's hard for me to judge Jesse's move because... could Jesse have beaten Cody or Karla in front of the jury? Was there an option where both Jesse/Karla are in F4 and Karla is the one that loses the final fire-making challenge instead of Jesse? But I agree with Peridiam that at F6, playing the Idol for Owen (thus making Karla waste hers), he fully commits to Karla being gone at F5 and puts himself in this timeline where he becomes the obvious threat to win the jury but is still not favored to win any Immunity Challenge and the biggest fire-making threat (Gabler) is still in the game.

[@MrCveedub]

1:27 thank god!

[@lucrative6477]

jesse made the right move. his chances to win without making that move were incredibly low. he couldnt predict owen and cassidy basically handing the game to gabler.

[@NYChica23]

He made a good move taking out Cody...it was his move afterwards that sealed his fate, because judging by the track records in challenges, it was a safe bet to assume that either Owen or Cassidy would win the final 4 immunity, so by letting both of them stick around there, he just decreased his odds of getting himself to F3. What he needed to do was follow up the Cody move by sniping one of Owen or Cassidy at 5, and that gets him a better chance of making final 3, because either he wins his way there, or whichever one of Owen and Cassidy sticks around at 4 wins it, in which case he goes into fire, and in both scenarios, I'd say having an injured Karla around greatly improves his shot at making endgame, because he can definitely beat her in an immunity, and with a broken hand, not like she'd be particularly skilled at making fires

[@survivorturnover]

malcolm & andrea, just nostalgic & players that couldve win a season tho

[@elizabethclifford6726]

This video could apply to this season. Are we at a record for most people going home with an idol in their pocket?

[@darriusbethea2373]

Jesse did try to work with her at F5 but she kept acting shady & said I’m voting you.

[@studymusic2558]

I’ll never recover from Jessie blindsiding Cody

[@alpha_gem]

If you ever did a big brother version of this, i would say that one that sticks to my head would be cody (as much as i despise him) when he convinced elena to not take the veto during the yankee swap competition in big brother 19. With her both winning the competition, AND being a nominee it should have been an easy decision to take the veto in the situation, leaving Cody to be an easy backdoor, but since Matt had the veto and being a third nominee not controlled by the HOH, Matt winning was the best circumstance for Cody had he chosen to use it on himself. The downside was every being under Paul's control and doing whatever they said to do, leading Matt to use the veto on Jason instead of himself to once again backdoor Cody

[@JedLawrenceSapida]

Kishan saying Hi to this episode.

[@kamerlort]

So will Genevieve since she’s now on the bottom after voting Sol out 😅

[@potterbonzzort]

Taking out Cody was not a good move, even with retroactive mental gymnastics. Jesse wasn't looked at as a strategic force and voting out Cody was an act of desperation that left him vulnerable as was well illustrated in this video. Jesse needed to play a better game, and instead actively chose not to. How did he fail to account for all of the other variables, including playing the idol when he didn't need to? I would argue that even if there was a viable path to the end for Jesse that voting out Cody was unnecessary had he only played smarter. Cody would likely not have won the final challenge and it would have came down to Jesse and Cass in the end regardless. Gabler beats Cody in fire 10 out of 10 times. The only thing Jesse did in the eyes of the jury was vote out Cody. And the thing that everyone seems to gloss over entirely is that everyone else would have wanted to take shots at Cody moving forward too. You can map out many paths to the end for Jesse leaving Cody in as a shield in front of him while simultaneously having 2 idols and several allies. You can map out one path to the end with one variable to it by taking out Cody here. This is an illogical argument. Jesse didn't play well in the end game.

[@junkerinhistrunker]

not many people will agree with you but you are spot on. people have their "new era resume builder big move" blinders on

[@Quatrixjs1]

Not even close.

[@NYChica23]

@@junkerinhistrunker It isn't just new era Survivor that started that trend...the big moveitis has been a thing since at least Cambodia

[@corndog7813]

JAKE AND KATURAH!

[@dinohall2595]

Facts

[@ncjuppiter9595]

Why did Ami do all the weird backtracking after FvF acting like she didn’t do what we saw her do.

[@UnbreakableBloke]

Malcolm could have played with them by either saying nothing or giving them decoy names.

[@andrewbrasuell8589]

Dude, nooooo. Cody was Jesse's ONLY chance of getting to final 3. He was constantly trailing in every challenge and never came close to winning one, and he knew he couldn't make fire. His ONLY chance was for Cody to win the final challenge, take him along, and then argue that he was the brains behind the operation. Without Cody, Jesse had no path to final 3 and was never going to get higher than 4th place.

[@Dmnthygtshlds2]

hey bud! lets party

[@Ren_Davis0531]

Jesse keeping both idols at five to single-handedly decide who goes home still makes him the biggest threat at 4 that needs to win immunity or fire. He might have a better chance with Karla at 4, but this is still a big risk that could easily backfire. I think all of Jesse’s options were a risk and any path he took would make his decision look like the correct move if he had won or a misplay if he had lost.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

It looks worse because he lost, had he successfully idoled out Cassidy at the final 5 maybe he wins immunity maybe Owen wins and the same thing happens. Had Gabler or Jesse won final immunity then Jesse wins the season handily, it being a balance challenge was also the challenge that both Cassidy and Owen excelled at

[@Ren_Davis0531]

@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf Another good point. People forget that Gabler flat out said in his post season interview that he would have taken Jesse had he won immunity. Jesse still had a path to the FTC without winning immunity. It’s just that Cassidy won immunity and Karla prioritized taking Jesse out at 5 as opposed to bettering her odds for success.

[@myperspectiveisimnotblind]

5:55 Uh on You mentioned Chet's realistic failures and waster spot as factual as possible??? Bad idea! Chet will now be coming after you as he's built this idea of himself playing a good game back in s16

[@energeam6284]

HE IDOLED OUT HIS SON!

[@lerdog]

Are we sure Cody would have beaten Jesse at F3?

[@Kyler.Mellen]

I think it's close enough of a call that if you're Jesse playing optimally, it's something you probably do.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Absolutely, if Cody blindsides Karla he wins the game hands down if he makes it there

[@Sliacen]

Jesse was the smarter of the two, but Cody was the face of that alliance, while also being just a super likeable guy and a great speaker. That's super dangerous at FTC, and Jesse was correct in taking him out.

[@szekesfehervar2230]

​@@Sliacen NO because JESSE IS A LOSER

[@billfeld5883]

I haven't been watching this for a decade now, so it's the same old same old, where is Russell when you need him!!!

[@Reality.juiced]

I haven't seen most seasons of Survivor. I have seen most of Peridiams videos though.

[@Kyler.Mellen]

What seasons have you seen?

[@danbalbino]

Loved it

[@Shutterbun4]

"Cody wasn't bitter at all". Au contraire. He was VERY bitter, we just didn't see it on the show.

[@rilenaveen5695]

I VEHEMENTLY disagree that Jesse taking out Cody was in any way a good move. It is arguably the dumbest move of the new era (and probably in the top 10 of all time). 1) Cody was not a lock to win if it’s him and Jesse sitting at the end. Jesse’s resume was stacked and he could make a pretty good argument that Cody was just doing whatever Jesse told him most of the game. 2) taking out Cody took out his only route to Final Tribal. Cody would have taken him to the end if Cody won the final immunity (which he probably would have). Without Cody, Jesse’s season played out exactly how many of us predicted the night he blindsided him. 3) this isn’t revisionist history for me. The night of the Cody blindside I called what would happen. I am shocked at the people who try to paint this move as anything but terrible.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Cody absolutely crushes Jesse at the end from my point of view so a lot of this doesn’t hold up, it is always better to swing for the fences then wait too long to make a move And truth be told had he gotten a final immunity challenge like simmotion he could have pulled it off, Cassidy and Owen really only excelled at the balance challenges If Jesse doesn’t take Cody out then Karla likely gets blindsided actively inflating Cody’s resume

[@JJackson.13]

Oh boy. Too many people give Jesse praise for his move against Cody. IMO, it was amazing for the audience, but it was his worst move of the game. Cody was the ONLY person who would have even thought of taking him to final 3. And given his lack of challenge ability to that point, relying on winning the final challenge or building fire was absolutely unlikely. So he sabotaged one of his 3 paths to the end by voting out his closest ally, all for classic “new era resume padding”. Had Jesse made it to the final 3 with Cody, I think it’s more likely he wins. Again, we will never know for sure, but it was more likely he can beat Cody in the end than it was that he wins at fire or final immunity.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

I don’t think Jesse would’ve stood a chance against Cody, Cody was the more active game player and a lot better socially

[@JJackson.13]

@@XanderMatthews-nv9zf ya I get that. It’s all perspective for sure. We can only imagine now. But I saw it different personally

[@jaimeabaya6728]

I know this is a unpopular opinion but Ami would have won Fans vs Favourites if the Ozzy blindside plan had work in the pre merge

[@JaredTVW]

I don’t think Jesse played poorly, honestly. But he sure didn’t have good abilities in the challenges. He just needed to win final four or win in fire making, which he did not.

[@stephendavis6267]

Putting yourself in a position where you have to win Final Four or firemaking is not a good thing, though, especially when he showed no aptitude for challenges or firemaking beforehand.

[@JaredTVW]

@@stephendavis6267 he showed absolutely no aptitude for winning challenges, so it would have been better for him to take better people with him to win against as well as people he felt were goats. However, he needed to make himself stand out and since he used a sure fire way to secure surviving final 6 and final 5 while showing the jury some impressive management of idols, all he needed was to find a way to either win final immunity or be competent at fire making. He knew early on how terrible he was at challenges, so he should have been competent with fire making, but he wasn’t. That’s on him for not practicing much. That’s on him.

[@stephendavis6267]

@@JaredTVW Exactly. Jesse has no one else to blame but himself for things falling the way they did. A flashy move is not always a good move, and I think the Cody blindside is the most overrated move of the New Era because Jesse failed to capitalize on it. If he had used his idol afterwards to save Karla, he keeps a wounded shield in the game *and* weakens Karla's standing in front of the jury by making it seem like she needed him to stay in the game. Idols are more than just a trinket. They are opportunities to showboat in front of a jury. This is why Rick Devens would've swept unanimously in EoE if he'd gotten to the end. You don't need to be on the right side of the vote all the time, or even driving the votes. You need to make sure the jury thinks you're doing something and making a huge impact in the game. Jesse could have done that. He had the ammo to do it, and he squandered it.

[@JaredTVW]

@@stephendavis6267 I honestly think a lot of Jesse Stan’s forget just how lucky he was. Any other player in his position would say this game was easy. He honestly had so much given to him when he finally had to do something for himself, he messed up big time. He had a chance, but he squandered it, as you have said.

[@danielhoward8354]

Cirie s move didnt exactly "backfire" It still saved Sara.

[@upvotecomment2110]

Click bait hypothetical OK bruh Except the last one, the Malcom one. That's 100% true

[@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849]

20 seconds in!

[@stellaronhunterfan]

I see Cassidy Clark I click !!! My girl is the most robbed player in new era history and I will die on that hill !

[@matsushitathefifth2862]

Womp womp she didn’t explain her game well and didn’t read the jury nor take Karla’s advice. There is no such thing as someone who was robbed.

[@cel.2263]

​@@matsushitathefifth2862 agree she wasn't robbed, but still her game was better than gabler's. one of the most condescending and bitter juries I've ever seen. to be fair, it's the jury prerogative to be bitter, that's not my issue. it was just very annoying to see them denying and not owning their bitterness. they dismissed Cassidy's game and did somersaults argumentation for Gabler's game, even though he was never a target/treat for them during the game, while she was.

[@JJackson.13]

I don’t know how you can watch Cassidy’s edit and think that she deserved to win over anyone. She had little agency from what I watched, and only emerged as a “contender” because the visible players picked each other off late in the game.

[@cel.2263]

@@JJackson.13 right, cause gabler's edit is so much better

[@JJackson.13]

@@cel.2263 ya they definitely hid him as a winner. But the man got 7/8 votes, it’s just hard to say it’s a robbery that’s all.

[@floatinrocktubetalk3768]

Jesse not winning is the worst thing to happen to current day survivor. It was the final realization that now the meta is to be a complaining loser over actually doing anything. It’s now that if you win any challenge or are liked by more than two people, you have to go. Look at the current season. Most of the players left have done nothing and don’t deserve a vote in the final.

[@NYChica23]

What show have you been watching if you think it's a new era Survivor trend to take out the people who have the most friends on the jury? It's been known since the early days that Survivor has been a social game, so why the surprise that everyone not named Russell Hantz will actually focus on that and not take the person with the most friends on the jury to the end in a game where the jury decides who wins?

[@cyrus198604]

I hated Mikaela. Jay should have been brought back.