Perky Engine with Big MPG - 2023 Nissan Rogue Turbo Review and Buying Guide

[@limitedreach4446]

Nissan got it right with this new Rogue. I picked up a 2023 Rogue alongside my 2020 Accord. Q1 of this year, it outsold the CR-V. Of course, people will come circlejerk because it’s a Nissan.

[@KirkKreifels]

Congrats man!!! I like being on the inside of a Rogue more than a CR-V Turbo. Looks better inside and out. Now if Nissan only brought their e-power hybrid to the rogue it would be insane!

[@limitedreach4446]

@@KirkKreifels Being a huge Honda fan, I went to look at a CR-V hybrid and was left disappointed with how many missing features it had in comparison, while also costing more. Not only did the Rogue exhibit better value, it had a better interior, the quality is much better than the CR-V. On top of that, I got the Rogue under MSRP, while my Honda dealer wouldn’t budge on the $3k markup on the CR-V. The 3 Cylinder-CVT matchup is surprisingly good and I’m not as concerned with longevity in terms of reliability because I have a lifetime powertrain warranty!

[@bigd7386]

@@limitedreach4446 I’ve noticed that and have been saying the same thing. The new CR-V is a huge miss for Honda to say they were considered the benchmark in this class. The feature content is lackluster, especially considering the price premium. I feel like the Rogue really is the best all arounder in the class now while offering a premium feel, and the new engine really elevates it. It was refreshing to see Motortrend give it the top spot in their most recent big comparo in this class. I know Nissan has had a rough run, but I also thinks it’s fair to consider the rest of their past and acknowledge that they have the capability and know how to build rock solid powertrains. The VQ is a legend and I’m happy to have one in my garage.

[@MSZsama]

I bought a 23 Rogue SL for my wife in February. The interior style, quality and features are way better than RAV4 and CR-V. And I don't really worry about the longevity of the 3 cylinder engine since she doesn't put much mileage on the car each year so this will last many years before problems appear.

[@limitedreach4446]

@@bigd7386 Honda knows that they didn’t need to elevate this generation CR-V because they know it’ll sale regardless. Since, the CR-V, despite being a inferior product has reclaimed the lead sales over the Rogue and matched the RAV4 for the last 3 months. I was really impressed by the Rogue and disappointment in the new CR-V. Honda has a bigger R&D development budget than Nissan, which makes it even more impressive for the Rogue.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

I like it. It’s one of the few cars we were heavily considering and we even went to the dealership when it first came out. This Rogue and Mitsubishi’s Outlander cousin really nailed it in terms of value for money. Ain’t hearing any bad about the Jatco CVT because those stories are often exaggerated.😉

[@Mr6384]

Interesting. Those were the two I looked at! However Nissan was offering a much better deal so we went with the SL Premium model

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@Mr6384👍

[@reddeserted13]

It's a surprisingly good vehicle. Peppy with good mpg. Lots of extras on the platinum model.

[@toyota420xp]

The best trim is the SV with the premium package

[@goatmonkey2112]

If they would just get rid of the CVT it would be pretty good. Just pop in a good old ZF 8-speed and everyone is happy.

[@hynsum]

Even new '23 Jeep Compass buys 8-speed automatic from Hyundai.

[@MSZsama]

The ZF 8 speed is for longitudinal engine only. The one you want is the ZF 9 speed which is designed for horizontal layout.

[@goatmonkey2112]

@@MSZsama Yeah, you're right. But I would like that too really.

[@occckid123]

​@@goatmonkey2112have you driven a cherokee with the 9speed or patriot? I'll pass...

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

@@Brian_Eugene_Leewhy? Jatco actually designed the cvt that Subaru uses. Jatco hasn’t had a major failure since 2013. The other companies you mentioned all have had major issues since then. Honda in 2013-2015. Subaru in 2014-2017. Toyota in 2017. The issues from all of these companies were corrected and there are no longer any cvt issues from any manufacturer.

[@CapELarry]

I live in Arizona. It would be a contender if it had ventilated seats, especially for that price. They’re a must down here.

[@KirkKreifels]

On the flipside, it has incredible Air conditioning.

[@KirkKreifels]

And if you get cloth seats, that helps

[@limitedreach4446]

They’ll likely add them for the refresh next year. Along with the 12.3 inch infotainment!

[@eleanormassaro5195]

If it offered rainsensing wipers, power, folding mirrors, and the ventilated seats. I might have seriously considered it, but for leasing only.

[@santoslorenz]

I live in tucson and I just got 2023 Rogue SV last week. IM AMAZED

[@onepunchmantolkienfan5383]

Have Nissan CVT transmissions reliableity improve dramatically or a little from their last batches?

[@hynsum]

Even if Nissan did, I'll spend my money elsewhere. Turbo 3-cyl. + CVT combo is very unappealing to me...

[@mrgurulittle7000]

New Jatco redesign.👍

[@James-eg3nf]

I unfortunately rented a Nissan Altima with the CVT recently. I’m still cringing from that experience.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Jatco, who Nissan purchases their transmissions from, hasn’t had a widespread cvt issue since 2013. This got tons of media attention. From 2013-2015, Honda had major cvt issues with their vehicles, and this went unreported. In 2014-2017, Subaru had major issues with their cvt’s. This went mainly unreported as well. In 2017, Toyota had major cvt issues that went reported, but only on specific car sites. My point is that only the Nissan cvt problems were widely reported. Jatco and Nissan corrected the issue almost immediately, and by 2015 the problem was resolved for 99% of owners. Nissan cvt’s are very reliable now, along with every other company that makes cvt’s. There are no unreliable cvt’s anymore. Period. Nissan makes perfectly reliable vehicles. If you like them, buy one. Don’t rely on decade old nonsense about cvt failures. Source - I’m an executive extended warranty administrator in charge of claims and risk assessment. In other words, it’s my job to know which cars have problems.

[@hynsum]

@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Good info, Thanks for sharing 👍🙏

[@user-iz3gv5vo6b]

Looks like a nice little SUV but it's too expensive. I can't see myself shelling out $40,000 for a 3 cylinder, unless it was for a GR Corolla.

[@occckid123]

So would you shell out 40k for a rav 4 with a 4 cyl?

[@user-iz3gv5vo6b]

@@occckid123 Perhaps. That would be enough to get a Limited Hybrid with AWD. As Kirk points out lease for Rogue. Toyota on the other hand you can consider purchase.

[@alengreen589]

nice interior.

[@KirkKreifels]

It's excellent. I would be happy for a long time inside.

[@bigcrowfly]

If you consider that Honda/Toyota/Subaru have ADMs & mandatory accessories, and Nissan has more features at lower trim, real life cost of Nissan is only 50-60% of H/T/S.

[@LeoTheShortGuy]

Excellent

[@taserface9073]

Looking at a new Rogue now. Our 21 Rogue had the 2.5L in it and we got 35 highway.

[@onepunchmantolkienfan5383]

I see anything built in Japan, I'm buying!

[@CarsTechWood]

I probably would have bought a rogue. It drove nice and had plenty of power. Problem is I don’t trust the VC engine technology. The forums people are having quite a bit of problems on their rogues

[@2seep]

Keep in mind people with problems tend to pile up in forums, this goes for almost any car. Also remember theirs always warranty if anything does happen.

[@TinoMiller]

Trust me their not talking about this model Rogue

[@LegalEagle117]

Great review Kirk! Is the platinum the only Rogue trim built in Japan?

[@KirkKreifels]

Yes for our market I believe so

[@welcometoboredom]

@@KirkKreifels Not exactly. My grandmother has a 2023 Rogue SV without the premium package, and it was made in Japan. At the local dealership, there are about 20-30 Japan built rogues.

[@arneldimla3920]

Check the VIN number, if it starts with letter J definitely it is made in Japan but if it starts with a number it is US made.

[@welcometoboredom]

@@arneldimla3920 it’s starts with a J. That was the first thing I looked at when she first got it.

[@hamidmghazi]

Anything with 3 cylinder turbo is built in Japan. So is my 2023 SL

[@JDMSwervo2001]

Anybody have experience with the newer Nissan CVTs? Are they still bad?

[@KirkKreifels]

It's a new CVT with the VC turbo...but jury is still out long-term

[@nunayobiznass]

Cvts are all bad.. droning

[@Eugen-E]

There are a lot of Nissan (Jatco) CVTs. Not all of them are bad! This is a myth that all of nissan cvts are bad. The same with the VW DCTs.

[@jamesmiller113]

@@nunayobiznass I drive a standard GM 4 speed auto from the 00's - it sounds so much better than this

[@mrgurulittle7000]

@@Eugen-ENow Hyundais transmissions are the real crap.

[@bfwaring]

Hi Kirk, did you experience a lot of wind noise coming in while cruising down the highway? Thanks for your time 👍🏼

[@notsodelusional]

In my limited experience, Big Altima Energy occasionally bleeds into Rogue drivers.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

All the time.😂

[@TinoMiller]

This is sometimes true

[@bigcrowfly]

Fuel economy you got is better than testers are getting with CRV Hybrid. WOW.

[@KirkKreifels]

I think I got 38-40 mpg on the CR-V hybrid. Flat and warm here in FL

[@tinhinnh]

nissan’s best seller.. or is it the altima? i seldom see new altimas, i havent seen the new frontiers yet either 🤣

[@KirkKreifels]

Rogue

[@TwiZtiDTeXas]

We averaged 30 mpg around Texas really romping on it in the 75 mph speed zones. It's a perky little engine for sure. We had a lot of fun with it. Small back window. The sport mode is not impressive. A good tune and maybe bigger turbo and it has potential.

[@Cheapchase]

I like the Rogue but I’d take CX-5

[@TheFlashyWeasel]

When working with the Divide N Hide-patience is a virtue-it's one of the more clever cargo scapes, you just have to chill...you raced through everything too quickly IMO

[@lilpeppa117G]

It gets better gas mileage then my 2023 Hyundai Tucson hybrid awd in real world driving

[@wardellward]

They totally reinvented the Nissan rogue

[@AutoEnthusiastJC]

I just couldn’t bring myself to test drive one due to turbo and CVT. I’m sure it has good power and mpg, but long term reliability is too uncertain for a $30,000 vehicle for me. Good design though.

[@KirkKreifels]

It's a great car to lease for that reason.

[@faheemabbas3965]

Apparently someone in the comments got a lifetime powertrain warranty for this car? The CVT still kills it for me though

[@hynsum]

Same here, car looks great. I think majority overlook this powertrain combo with marketing of marginally better mpg and bit more torque. Regular RAV4 also got 200-hp, no CVT and nearly identical MPGs. What's the reliability of turbo 3-cylinder with CVT after 150/200k miles?

[@mattdirks7896]

I wish they would put some of these VC-Turbos with a manual in the sentra + altima...

[@naveenthemachine]

If this had a Toyota or Honda cvt it would instantly be a hit. The JATCO cvt is an easy nope

[@arhamkhakwani5851]

Or just an 8-speed automatic. Sometimes it gets annoying with the CVT noise.

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

Ignorant comment. Jatco hasn’t had a widespread issue with their cvt’s since 2013. Honda had issues in 2013-2015, and Toyota had major issues in 2017. All cvt issues have been corrected from all manufacturers.

[@toyotaprius79]

No ePower in the US. That's a problem worth noting

[@KirkKreifels]

I mentioned it in my video, but it was getting too long so I had to trim it out. Really wish we got e-power on Nissans here too mate

[@toyotaprius79]

@@KirkKreifels im only lucky that here in Ireland there's second hand JDM imports of Note ePowers. Sleeper hot hatches and still unknown. Just need to wait ... 3-6 more years for my budget EPower is brand new to the EU (but 7 years old in Japan). The smallest new car they fit it with is the Juke, not the Micra, so it's already a let down.

[@LegalEagle117]

@@KirkKreifels Yes, an e-Power model here in the States would also assuage people's fears RE: Nissan CVTs since there are only electric motors, no trans.

[@occckid123]

​@@LegalEagle117hmm I think they still use a cvt? Kinda...

[@LegalEagle117]

@@occckid123 it's called E-CVT but it's not really a CVT in any way.

[@user-jo4en1zl7b]

I like the new look but I like to do my own oil changes then Nissan put this splash guard over oil pan and filter with 18 plastic clips and 2 bolts to remove there must be a better way 😩🧐🤨

[@occckid123]

33.8 is good for something that's rated at 34mpg for the hwy. Drive easy and get good mpg...

[@byhsu6140]

Nice engine specs, but $40k for a Nissan Rogue is insane.

[@occckid123]

At 10:09 10:10 you can see where where you floor it the power surfe when the tq kicks in by looking at your devices move lol

[@occckid123]

You get the SL for the bose audio system and real leather seats wkth the better wheels but you get kess mpg with the bigger wheels

[@justinphillips5043]

What about the murano is it dead?

[@KirkKreifels]

Not yet strangely

[@limitedreach4446]

They’ll eventually phase it out for the Ariya.

[@James-eg3nf]

A 1.3L 3-cyl for an SUV? That engine is gonna have *issues* and will need therapy.

[@KirkKreifels]

1.5L 3cyl.

[@glsracer]

I think this is another missed opportunity. Nissan should have used the 2 litre turbo engine here. It would have improved performance of the vehicle and economy of scale for that engine. Now they have one more engine in the lineup and the vehicle will be less competitive in the segment.

[@BigAltimaEnergy719]

That 2 litre would outclass the horsepower on the crv and rav4, so that’s why they put this 3 cylinder instead.

[@glsracer]

@@BigAltimaEnergy719 in business just being average isn't a great way to become a market leader. Mazda and even Ford (arguably the worst first world automaker) have higher output options. Nissan and Mitsubishi should not continue to fall behind.

[@bigd7386]

@@glsracer And the Mazda and that particular Ford make a up small percentage of sales in this class. The Rogue with this new engine is among the most powerful base engines in the class and offers more power than some upgrade engines while maintaining good economy and a pretty nice engine note as a cherry on top. It is very competitive in this class.

[@glsracer]

@@bigd7386 competitive but not the leader. I'm just saying that companies should strive to exceed, not just match, the specifications of their competitors.

[@bigd7386]

@@glsracer You're looking at it from one perspective... Being the leader doesn't mean you have to have the biggest and greatest overall number. Wih this engine, the Rogue is the leader when it comes to standard horsepower and torque. While it may not have the most power overall, a Rogue will now have more power than most of the cars in the class on the road, while still matching the efficiency of others base model engines. Nissan aimed to be the leader where the majority of sales are in this class.

[@TinoMiller]

Why review the vehicle if you're going to be bias and downgrade it ?? Also why recommend getting an SV you drove the Platinum why not tell them get the Platinum .. That's weird ..

[@avdp9095]

3 cilinders worst of the worst engines, never ever buy a car with a 3 cilinder. In Europe almost all ice cars have 3 cilinder turbo charged engines, after 3, 4 years now on the market...... awful oil consumption and very poor reliability. Some engines are finished after 50k mls.... . Vw, Stellantis, Ford have massive legal claims same for Nissan and Renault. Simple advise.... go for a big 4 cilinder or 4 cilinder hybrid.

[@aaronjaggan]

And toyota to?

[@hynsum]

100% 👍👍

[@avdp9095]

​@@aaronjaggan no problems yet recorded for the 3 cilinder Yaris. But the smaller, A segment, Aygo has also engine reliability issues.

[@spol1622]

At the time I was growing up in one of the European countries, one of the very popular cars was small Fiat that had only 2 cylinders in an air cooled motor. They quit building them like that decades ago, but some of them are still on the road. 3 cylinder cars are nothing unusual in other parts of the world. If they are built properly they last as long as V-6 and V-8.

[@avdp9095]

@@spol1622 but they are not build properly....the Puretech 3 cil engines from Stellantis, never ever consider...

[@Eugen-E]

I'm sure Forester with the 2.5L and with a way better AWD system gets the same MPG as this 3-cylinder Rogue ))))

[@KirkKreifels]

Subaru has a better CVT, but this engine is fantastic vs. Boxer 2.5l

[@Eugen-E]

@@KirkKreifels Yeah because it has more torque down low and a little more HP. But on a highway pull it won't be faster than a 2.5L RAV4 which also will get the same MPG as that 3cyl Rogue ))

[@haroldbeauchamp3770]

I drive a Subaru and I am extremely loyal to them. But the Forester is widely considered to be extremely homely. This is why the Outback is so popular. We’d rather drive a wagon than be caught dead in the Forester 😂

[@henryfung888]

Can get over 40 mpg with eco drive

[@1976axerhand]

With that vc engine when it fails will cost a fortune to fix.....

[@MrNiceGuy500]

These days you just pop a whole new engine in anyways

[@hamidmghazi]

It's called pro pilot assist not safety shield

[@double__de7387]

Good review but i have to stick to the Rav4 or Corolla Cross hybrid.

[@mrsteve4313]

Built in Japan so it's better quality than their American built ones! Lol

[@Seriously140]

No ventilated seats! Immediately off my list. Too hot in Texas to do without. Huge mistake Nissan.

[@hynsum]

Turbo 3-cyl.+ CVT combo just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth... It's only 3-4% better fuel efficiency than non-hybrid CR-V or RAV4. That's just nickel-and-diming to me. If I want better fuel efficiency I'll buy hybrid one. What is really the real reason for all these new turbo 3-poppers!? For instance Ford/Chevy makes their ridiculous turbo-3cylinders... so they can offset and make ridiculous V8- 6.7/6.2L for Raptors and Denali ??? Is that why?

[@trentrizza4572]

A coworker had a Nissan Rogue with a 360 camera that did not work. Nissan refused to fix it.

[@CupidStunt-fs7ie]

$40k for a three cylinder Rogue?LOL….with CVT……LOOOLL…… 8.11 0-60, LOL, ROTFL……old Prius territory…….

[@markallen2984]

CVT? Nope. Never.

[@trentrizza4572]

A 3 cylinder engine. Really? That's a joke.

[@BiPolarBear722]

F Nissan. They need to improve their track record in terms of reliability.

[@m_ianO]

Sounds awful