Perpetual Motion from a Magnetic Array?

[@KarlAndres-l9m]

Really intelligent! Did the last configuration have a “repulsion “resistance point” at the very start as well ?

[@abdullahtaibani]

Why dont you try this in circular motion by using the track to lift the wheel and and take advantage of gravity to slide down half the circle. I hope you understand

[@PerpetualMotor]

The hard part with this set up is getting the wheel to turn (change direction) without introducing excessive losses. I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

[@llahneb10]

I think the energy input was getting it past the initial energy barrier that it resisted. You should try to make a loop to see if it continuously rolls around, though I think it’s probably unlikely it would happen

[@NathanCoppedgeVideos]

I'm not clear on the longer tube: 1. Is there entry resistance? How is it not a perpetual motion machine? 2. If it is a perpetual motion machine, you may be the inventor of significant horizontal velocity. Typically I'm disillusioned with magnets, however, since I feel there will ultimately be some device that works, I may as well consider your idea valid too unless there is evidence to the contrary.

[@PerpetualMotor]

There is entry resistance. What I found, though, is that the magnets, collectively, act like one long magnet. The mid-point interactions are weak, so the longer the magnet track, the less willing the moving body is to make it all the way to the other end. However, because there's enough force to drive the wheel on an incline, I found that I could potentially have the wheel drop into the next set of magnets with much less entry resistance. I ran out of magnets, though.

[@NathanCoppedgeVideos]

Above average talents in magnets is surprisingly hard to find. Like your experiment. If you want to build perpetual motion, I recommend using magnets as an attracting force of >0.5 to

[@PerpetualMotor]

I did try that before I posted this video, and it does seem to work. There's not a lot of extra force, though, for the amount of material needed to make it happen, so I've been hesitant to keep going.

[@pedroantunes896]

Finally someone experimented the same sort of idea I had since child. For those who are telling about the losses on doing the curves: Why not imagine streets with adapted vehicles that rolls though these magnets on straight roads, then when they need to do a curve, they leave the magnet track and use their own electric battery plus the speed they already gained before to do the curve and join the other magnet track? It would represent a great economy of energy.

[@robertneighbors3520]

Lot's of experimenters build very similar straight LINEAR arrays like yours, however, once you construct your same array configuration in a circular path, the rotary piece will not move.

[@jesusischrist1527]

Unfortunately if you made a circular track the little magnet wheel you have made would run around one rotation and lock in the neutralization field just like every single other perpetual magnet motor does no matter what is done to it ...

[@PerpetualMotor]

True. That just means you have to keep the acceleration linear. So, then the challenge is how to create a closed loop with linear components. The best I can come up with is some type of pivoting assembly, track, tube, or rail that can reverse the direction of the wheel in order to roll over a second linear accelerator.

[@jesusischrist1527]

@@PerpetualMotor that may work im not really sure .. Ive thought about what would happen if you made a closed track sort of like what you have here and once the magnet made one rotation and neutralized could you mark that position and take one magnet out and replace it with an electromagnet gate with a dead mans switch set before the neutralized point so when the magnet wheel or rotor came to that point it would trip the switch and reverse the magnet momentarily to allow the magnet wheel to pass and immediately switching polarity back to its first state to keep the linear force forward ... This may not work either but ive never heard or seen anyone do it but this idea along with every other theory sounds good until its attempted haha .... Either way im sure someone eventually will find a way around magnetic neutralization its just a matter of who and when ... Anyhow keep trying and good luck 👍👍👍

[@jeffkroeger946]

Just wondering where did you find the rubber boots to put around the magnets just curious, thank you for your time Jeff

[@PerpetualMotor]

Good question. It's self-fusing silicone tape. a.co/d/hViPElV

[@jeffkroeger946]

@@PerpetualMotor Thank you

[@ShootingOutside]

Have you tried arranging magnets in a wheel shape array, to achieve constant circular motion? The diameter would have to be large enough so as not to oppose one another in the actual wheel design array, while opposing the magnets inside the wheel on a separate axle, which would be providing power to a machine

[@PerpetualMotor]

Yes. It doesn't work because there are no end poles to generate acceleration. I would have to take the exit momentum and create another system that would allow the wheel to re-enter the magnetic array.

[@bencarignan2711]

If the system requires the initial push/pull to generate the forward momentum, but it doesn't gain any speed when travelling through the arrangement of magnets, then it will always eventually stop.

[@7gone]

@@PerpetualMotor I have idea, if it's have enough acceleration, maybe this concept will work :) take a look i.gyazo.com/f9b4cfaa18bf074622165206ffa986bb.jpg

[@accountingcoach3739]

​​​@@PerpetualMotor you can do as per my idea. Do one thing keep little distance between two arrays making circle and it will never stop

[@ecogreen123]

so intriguing, you did a good job explaining it too.

[@jean-paullefaivre1161]

IMPORTANT: Try this out. I once had seen a paper that had information on how to build a FREE ENERGY/MOTOR GENERATOR. The motor/generator once started would keep running and you would get Free Over Unity Electrical Energy .The person had used Permanent Magnets and Electro Magnets with High Voltage Capacitors. With electro magnets and capacitors you can have a controlled magnetic field that stops the moment the capacitor is drained of its energy. With an all permanent magnet system you need to physically move one of the magnets away from the other or you get a clogging effect where motion of the rotor stops. By using electro magnets and capacitors or super capacitors you can have a controlled intermittent magnetic field. You can control the magnetic field with by an optical switch or better still with a solid state Hall Effect Sensor Switch. The electro magnet can be used as a generator to recharge the capacitor. You may need a diode to ensure the capacitors get the proper charging polarity. By switching a magnetic field on and off you can stop the clogging effect therefore the rotor can keep on turning and keep gaining momentum. I Reply

[@manwar999]

fail...magnet from start must enter field and exit on its own...you are pushing magnet into field

[@BuilderTrevin]

Bro, you just broke magnet physics! I'm so excited I have been studying perpetual motion machines, for ever! This has to be part of a solution in some way!

[@PerpetualMotor]

LOL! Magnet physics is not quite broken. What I found, though, was that there was enough force to have the wheel go up a slight incline. What this means is that it could drop from the end of the incline to start the process again. The problem was that you’d need a long row of magnets, which starts to get expensive. There is the potential to do it in a circle, but there just isn’t a lot of power produced. Although, it would be more than zero.

[@Joao-uj9km]

Very intriguing. I'm wondering if the exit velocity is to put the car inside another array. Then one can put these arrays in a circular arrangement. Should that work, heavy implications would be had.

[@PerpetualMotor]

If that circular array consists of multiple straight arrays, then It could be possible. Once you start curving the relative orientation of each individual magnet, though, you can create some significant deviations in the magnetic field.

[@225fabry]

​​@@PerpetualMotor that's a fancy way to say that perpetual motion can't exist and the only thing you can do is to trade magnetic potential energy with kinetic energy,wich is the same as physics says;pretty interesting for a non perpetual physics -defying motor

[@francoisjubault4539]

J'ai fait la même expérience mais avec des aimants en forme de U prévus pour ramasser les aiguilles de couture

[@CrosswireHunter]

thanks ... 1. the roller need to get pulled during start without you having to feed it, 2, even if the linear model works as intended, when you wrap a circular path every thing gets wasted. IT WILL NOT WORK.

[@CCLJunky]

What if you lined up the magets in a circle instead of a straight line and used a ball in a tube instead of the wheels? Wouldn't it be possible to make that ball go forever in circles?

[@PerpetualMotor]

The way this seems to work is that the array acts like one long magnet. Once you close off the other end by looping it, you close the magnetic field. Once you close the magnetic field, the effect of moving something across the length of the array disappears.

[@CCLJunky]

@@PerpetualMotor I know that the laws of thermodynamics state that closed perpetual motion systems are impossible, because you always lose energy to friction. But what I keep wondering about is that you have 2 permanent forces that don't need an energy input; the magnets and gravity. So what if you could design a system that uses the magnetic force to lift an object to a certain height and then gravity takes it back down again, completing the cycle. Like, magnets pulling a ball up a curved ramp, giving it enough momentum to break free from the magnetic field, to come down by gravity on the opposite side of the curve, to enter the magentic field again and be pulled up again. But I don't know if this makes sense? lol

[@DrHarryT]

1:20 What you mean is "softens" is actually "blends the transition" removing the definitive line between the changing poles. Who cares about the exit? Put it in a circle so it never has to exit with the moving magnets on a rotating axis.

[@PerpetualMotor]

You are correct. What I meant by "softens" was exactly blending the transition. However, if there is no exit, there is no end pole to create a magnetic potential difference to cause acceleration. I actually did try that experiment, but it didn't work. To have something that works, I would have to create a completely separate mechanical infrastructure that could use the exit momentum to enter into another magnetic array.

[@deltap3479]

Great work in getting smoothly past the lock up. Now just need to make it continuous loop. The answer is in Mag energy... just need the right counter to keep it flowing... and it's most likely simple Mag Gravity & Momentum with some separation & altering of the Mag field at the lock point. Very Cool!

[@runtime1976]

Block the field should be about 80% blocked on exit

[@runtime1976]

Also your system is not looped, once you loope it you will not have the rotation

[@jodi9295]

if you put it on a loop track will it go forever?

[@PerpetualMotor]

No. Once you close the magnetic field with a closed loop, the main drivers - the north and south pole of the collected group of magnets - no longer exist.

[@jodi9295]

@@PerpetualMotor what if you made it 90% loop and then cut it off but it would roll down the empty area still

[@PerpetualMotor]

@@jodi9295 When the end point of one array is close to the beginning of another it weakens the entry and exit, which reduces the maximum amount of inertia that can be generated.

[@alexandermarcussen557]

@@PerpetualMotor I would argue that if the loop is big enough then it would work. You need a pretty big circle though so it costs cash to make.

[@bobwilson1511]

no, I don't think you have it notice how it was pushing back when you were trying to start it that was the sticky spot.

[@PerpetualMotor]

You are correct in that I had to push back against the sticky spot. However, I was able to make the wheel go up a grade, which means I could create an array where I could drop over the sticky spot. My hope was to get back to this experiment once I figured out how to make the wheel turn, so that it wouldn't need so much space.

[@chriswiebold]

I like how u got figured out what most idiots in lab coats can't figure out.

[@Patamonster1]

I heard your fart at 8 seconds in. Why does it feel like I suddenly have sand in my teeth?

[@alainhelautre2167]

Transformer une force telle que celle des aimants ou de la gravité en une énergie exploitable les lois de la thermodynamique nous disent que c'est impossible. Mais si on ignore que c'est impossible il est possible de réussir....qui sait!

[@godwinsboom]

You either are going to have the stop and the beginning or end of the array.

[@SabcatPrinting]

Exiting a magnetic field does not mean perpetual motion can be achieved, Exiting and re-entering a magnetic field is the trick. Is the "exit velocity" high enough to re-enter another identical arrays magnetic field? I expect not, part of the energy in the exit velocity came from you placing the axle in the field, a bit like loading a spring or catapult. but hey.. magnets is fun, no harm in trying!

[@PerpetualMotor]

Actually, if the acceleration happens on an incline, you can create gravitational potential and drop into another array, which would allow entry into the magnetic field at a similar start point with start velocity. The issue that stopped me was that to create enough additional energy to be useful would take much stronger magnets and much heavier masses.

[@SabcatPrinting]

@@PerpetualMotor I'm not saying it can't be done, but If you make it go up a hill using stronger magnets, exiting the field uses more of the momentum energy. Re-entering a stronger field also requires more energy. The potential energy from gravity (height) came from that magnetic field raising it, and that same magnetic field will slow its exit.

[@mauricewright9887]

Correct on all points. This is why I’ve backed off on improvements until I have a solid way to reduce the exiting magnetic field. This may be possible with a magnetic switch similar to the Mag-Switch product.

[@SabcatPrinting]

@@mauricewright9887 i think you may be better moving away from magnets on the axle, the working method you refer to doesnt work like how yours does.

[@clancyimislund5783]

@@mauricewright9887 Could you vary the strengths of the magnets in the array? Perhaps a very weak one at the entrance and exit?

[@fmlogic]

Thanks, PM. Very interesting. Like you, I am also interested in magnets. I’m thinking of starting a You Tube channel to share what I have used magnets for in every day things.

[@PerpetualMotor]

You should! Let me know when it's live.

[@off-gridhillbillystyle3735]

Dude take a look at my magnetic fan I'm about to upload something big.

[@PerpetualMotor]

I did. Nice work.

[@beydlercnc]

Cool stuff!

[@businessteam2491]

Never work !

[@manwar999]

7.50 you have success...!!!

[@Hyperbole77]

To answer the title question: no.

[@runtime1976]

You are on the wrong track, I know how to pass the sticky point

[@SteveC38]

Nice!

[@David_Mash]

Did you really fake rotate the track @06:15?

[@Alec_Woldt]

ya as soon as i seen that i was like this dudes table is on a slop to make it look like it works

[@johneygd]

Can’t wait till you will come with a perpetual motion machine,whether it will eun for 20 minutes,20 hours,20 days or 20 years,i don’t care, if you will come with one,we can then finally shove away all those annoying BS fake videos about it,so let’s count on you.

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[@PerpetualMotor]

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