Persona 3 Reload Episode Aigis DLC - "MC" Boss Fight

[@idea4965]

I was aware they were never going to peel him off again, but man... it would have been awesome

[@ModestAndElegantJunKurosu]

"i like my makoto yuki skinless, then nerveless"

[@godhelpusall4679]

they didn’t fucking peel him I’m so disappointed

[@Tostiwaffe]

Fr dude

[@icecreamorc]

Yeah that was like the main moment I was looking forward to in the remake, biggest let down of the remake for me.

[@flerken4233]

Personally I don't mind this cutscene, it made it more dramatic and didn't need the peeling. The first few cutscenes of the DLC I feel were a bit of a travesty though...

[@joaolima7131]

​@@flerken4233yeah, I understand people being disappointed, but I think people are making a storm in a teacup, and refusing to be open to another interpretation, I didn't like that they changed Aigis awakening though

[@bloodyidit4506]

@@flerken4233 The original was much more dramatic in tone. Having him literally dissipate intricately showing every layer of his body melting off into words was haunting and horrific, portraying the severity of how the party was effected by his death in a manner that replicates the hole you feel when someone you loved has died or was killed. The way they did it in this romanticizes the moment, removes emotion from it, adds theatrics. There is no raw feeling portrayed here. It has lost it's shock, it's punch, the risk. This is not a personal work portraying death in how it effects someone in a real way. This is a corporate piece imitating the original. The original portrayed mourning and the dread of loss. The game itself may be fun, the rest may be fine, but please do not succumb to the idea that what was done here was "fine". It was an inferior take. That's all. You should confront that mixed feeling you avoid and accept this complexity. You know you're telling lies.

[@DavidWhat-j9s]

This actually makes more sense to me because at the end of the day this shadow was a manifestation of their desire to see Makoto again. So when they beat it, it disappears like a butterfly showing how they are slowly moving on from his death. Of course not all of them fully moved on as shown by the endgame part.

[@recordkeepertype0662]

Half the complaints about Shadow Makoto: No OG PS2 Peels The other Half: *Burning their Breads with emotional damage that hit for 9999 damage*

[@leomaguetta7873]

Jnpei is just like: "We all should just FUCKING CHILL THE FUCK OUT"

[@thatoneguy5347]

You know it’s bad when Junpei’s the voice of reason

[@neutralplayeroflol5722]

@@thatoneguy5347 I'm having major Deja vu vibes with this reply. Its been 15 years atleast

[@ApexGale]

​@@thatoneguy5347Junpei was never bad...he simply played the comic relief because to him it was easier than being honest about his feelings. that's the whole point of his arc. the reason why the answer is so good for him as a character is because he starts to understand the weight makoto had to manage while being a leader, and he tries to step up to some extent because nobody else is willing to

[@thatoneguy5347]

@@ApexGale I literally never said he was bad

[@ApexGale]

@@thatoneguy5347 "you know it's bad when junpei is the voice of reason" implies junpei is normally unreasonable. a bad trait.

[@unknowed5048]

This would have been cooler if the boss uses a Theurgy but only if the player uses Metis. That would make up for the spot that the protagonist does not have anything for metis specifically. More important, OG players will actually go WTF that shit ain't there in the original.

[@davidparedes1415]

Imagine the MC doing theurgys with two personas of SEES showing off that hes better in using their own personas that could have been so cool.

[@imhangryforpizza9053]

Dude the dlc just got out not even here yet. And there’s already a boss video

[@arcalas]

well as you can tell the player has no idea what they are doing most of the time so its someone from an area that gets stuff early than the rest.

[@SoulHero7]

It literally just dropped.

[@LongTran-kp3kz]

Ngl, but now, and just like then, I really, REALLY appreciated exploring the idea of literal clashing ideologies between a group that got so close and been through so much over how to move on past the MC's death. I love P4 and P5, but P3 really did the series justice by actually exploring that... and not just with shadow selves like in P2 either but with the party themselves. It's one reason I love 'Heartful Cry' so much. It really strikes you in the kokoro with the fact that they have all come to a point where they have no choice but to beat the shit out of each other anf force their views onto the losers...

[@oxygenenjoyer8440]

is this toned down from the original yes does this let my man rest in peace as the man who gave his life for all of humanity instead of getting peeled like an orange yes

[@jacquespaught]

But he DOESN'T get to rest in peace, that was the whole point of his sacrifice. His soul is trapped as the Great Seal, and he accepted that fate to save everyone.

[@jacquespaught]

The boss in this video isn't even related to the real guy, it's a manifestation of SEES's regrets.

[@DragonFists1337]

@@jacquespaught Tbh actually His soul is a Schrödinger cat situation, He’s neither alive nor dead. Which is why Elizabeth embarks on a journey to grant his well deserved rest as promised.

[@ChiangKai-Shrek]

I kinda don't mind this change actually, this just seems like a different take on it. FES' take was more creepy and unsettling because this guy was just a shadow (heh) of the MC, so seeing him stripped down to his organs shows all of SEES his true self. Reload's was a more beautiful one, notice how unlike in FES, Aigis and the gang actually eeact to his disappearance, Reload shows how SEES clearly misses the MC, Aigis especially. So they wanted him to stay, even if he wasn't real.

[@Hyp3rSonic]

@@ChiangKai-Shrek agree

[@raulrojas9253]

Man the OG PS2 cutscene was way way way creepier and kind of...messed up, this one is so tame by comparison but a bit more appropriated? whatever thanks for uploading the answer since I wont be playing it

[@Plz8662]

Where can I watch the cutscene? I wanna see the original I never played it lol

[@kishinsa-x5861]

​@@Plz8662just look it up. Persona 3 FES The Answer

[@Anonymous529]

@@Plz8662just search “P3 FES ??? Boss fight”

[@chickenkur90]

​@@Plz8662 just look up persona 3 the answer protagonist boss

[@Hollow009]

They did all the cutscenes dirt even the persona scene from the start of the game looks dogshit same goes for chidoris death and shinjiros death even movies looked better

[@vietnguyen2293]

now that we see his model behaving without the skills menu popping up, i wish they kept it like the OG where EVERY TIME he summoned a persona, he would spin his evoker. yeah he does it when he switches and its a small little detail but it was always a nice touch 😭

[@thatoneguy5347]

I just noticed, that idle animation where he stretches his neck at the beginning of the battle is from his boss fight in P5 Royal

[@conicthehedgehog9166]

17:30 its not a gore death anymore but at least aigis actually cares about shadow makoto dying now, in the original she didnt give a shit

[@LolloGamer95]

Its a sad death.

[@Jdogjaden]

Lmaooo this representation really has no emotion. Korumaru pouts and the other teammates gasp.

[@dialga236]

i swear some people in this community have object permanence issues, "if we arent directly shown or told it happened it didnt happen"

[@SpideyfanX]

​@@dialga236 What else can you expect from the "Modern Audience"?

[@conicthehedgehog9166]

@@dialga236 someone you were searching for months has just died again in front of your face, you arent just going to move on like "yeah lets go friends 🥰"

[@meloncat5900]

Omg shadow Mc persona awakening thing is so cool. The blood shot eyes and the red droplets over the background is cool as hell. 9:48

[@RiazAhmed-cr1re]

Im not entirety disappointed about it, just a different feel ig. Still kinda prefer the whole creepy skeleton one.

[@reicho3034]

I am SO glad that shadow MC doesn’t get peeled like before.😅 That scene was disturbingly creepy. Here it feels more like the group is getting closer to closure with him? Letting go of their regret, but not forgetting him.

[@kevinmark6389]

It's going to be a unpopular opinion but I feel like the new animation when the MC vanishes is more fitting for this game's atmosphere. The prior was more horror supernatural while this one has a more somber supernatural that better matched what the characters are feeling Edit [Warning, I infodump]: The prior invokes feelings of fear, of how they were so sadden by the loss of their friend they couldn't see how their 'friend' they chased was a shapeshifting monster that took their form and are forcibly reminded of the harsh truth of how their fallen friend is gone The newer version invokes sadness, of how they chased their friend only to find out it was just a 'memory' that faded into dust that gave false hope, leaving only a harsh truth that their friend is gone, a memory that they may fear will fade away as they grow older I guess I like the new version because how much more (the fading away, the music, the reaction) captures the sheer devastation the party feels about their lost friend and how they're gone with nothing to distract from it (no shock of 'oh my gosh, he's peeling away!')

[@berseker704]

Damn on point. The PS2 version has its horror charm in all cinematics. Now its more of a ups and down journey rather than the feeling you get from how they decide to do the art style and direction from the old one

[@Krysta1Rose]

I saw the og cutscene by accident as a kid in 07 Thank god I don't need to be psychologically damaged twice 😂

[@raiseasato]

Honestly I'm okay with this version. It's a more melancholic take of the Shadow MC vanishing. I like the peeling version more but this version was perfectly okay.

[@Jdogjaden]

Just no… the cutscene of him appearing has no shock factor or symbolism. Bro when he disappears it’s just korumaru pouting and the other team members gasping after he disappears.. feels very shallow.

[@raiseasato]

Cool but I didn't ask

[@Hyp3rSonic]

​@@Jdogjaden🤔

[@Hyp3rSonic]

​@@raiseasatoI also enjoy this version!

[@gamerbeast3616]

​@@Jdogjaden why cant you just accept an opinion lol

[@MintyCoolness]

Man, are people pressed in this comments section... Both are good, in my opinion...

[@CGInferno]

Persona fans for you

[@karakuruunknown500]

That's exactly what I'm saying the only thing hear when those type of people who complain is that teenage edgelord phase that never dies and, it has purely blind them to the point they can't realize both scenes have greatly depicted the team's grief after losing Makoto.

[@4oki_Tatsuy420]

I understand that the OG is scary…. But seeing my boy being peeled in 4k will definitely traumatize me

[@irsyadiaryadiva9430]

Daym this still hurts

[@ApexGale]

they really kinda missed the mark when it came to the horror elements of p3. the og had so many unsettling cutscenes

[@kison7715]

guess atlus doesnt want to traumatize children anymore

[@petergriscom3431]

​@@kison7715I'm not hyped for the PG era of Persona.

[@kison7715]

@@petergriscom3431 me too. genuine let down for an M-rated game

[@SpideyfanX]

​@@kison7715 Exactly. It's disappointing how much they try to appeal to the modern audience, trying to censor everything and make it PG in an M-Rated game.

[@anakmaganggaming]

9:47 Jesus that's menacing and cool at the same time....

[@simplypablo6506]

He didnt tweak the fuck out

[@LightKing1237]

man i cannot tell if its just nostalgia but i cant tell if I like the OG answer better or this better.

[@elisabethnunez4569]

16:58-17:33. Glad they made the shadow Makoto vanishing less scary and more beautiful

[@-nova-6939]

Took away from the symbolism tho, and its less impactful now..

[@MinhLe19303]

@@-nova-6939 Tbh I do wonder what kinda of symbolism they tried to show in that scene.

[@GABiHatchiiwa]

@@MinhLe19303 it was also supposed show him turning into the seal, it's not just a disappearing act

[@Jdogjaden]

L take ngl. That’s immediately followed by korumaru pouting and the team gasping lol what a joke. People have no media literacy these days

[@DoubleStrike-ye6tw]

​@@Jdogjaden Dude, the scene was fine. You don't need to make things up to get mad at. They acted like this in the original PS2 version.

[@Woody515]

You’re not real, you’re not me! Fine, I’ll face myself

[@YaBoiHandman]

The game just came out...I can't even get a spoiler warning when I scroll

[@Pleoxz]

it came out in 2007

[@cocoabeanzwantstopuzzle]

​@@Pleoxz There will always be people who experience a story for the first time, wanting to be blind when they go in, no matter if it came out the day the person starts, or before the person was even born. We should be considerate to those new people.

[@fakenayhn]

​@@Pleoxzmaybe they werent even born in 2007.

[@eggsnorter2332]

@@Pleoxz so????

[@rebirth2526]

so MC become Noob Saibot

[@MartinKobeCOriel]

Otokam Ikuy

[@darthvigilante]

This should have been the final boss instead of Erebus.

[@nazimkhan6322]

I personally like this version more. The shadow MC disappearing scene I mean. More emotional than the FES version to me.

[@SpideyfanX]

Of course a fake fan like you would like the watered down PG Version of a scene meant to symbolize death.

[@yattatheghost]

@@SpideyfanX calling someone a fake fan cuz they like the disappearing better? You are Hilarious. I too played the OG when it got released and like this one better as whatever the fuck the OG one was, so I'm fake fan also then? Everyone to his own which version they prefer and has nothing to say if they are "fake" fans or not.

[@nazimkhan6322]

@@SpideyfanX first of all, just because I like this version more doesn't mean I dislike the FES version. Second, calling someone a fake fan just because of a minor difference in taste like this is really telling of your character.

[@GojoTheGyattDestroyer]

​@@SpideyfanX shut up and grow up man let the new gen enjoy the Persona series

[@ehhhehhh5079]

@@SpideyfanXhorrible opinion never have an opinion again

[@SpectralNapper]

I miss his horrifying peel away cutscene...

[@fishngamestv5817]

There's nothing wrong with changing it but i feel they did it for the wrong reasons. Maybe to appeal to new fans or they didn't have it in them bc of how the public would receive it nowadays, but reload and the original have completely different atmospheres and feelings to them. I really prefer the original but i do wish it had an updated gameplay

[@thelastsamuel5040]

Something i like it's the fact that Shadow actually thinks, idk why but in the Og usually atacks the same character that he copied making his turn uselles, now he can think to use it better now, i even saw one time it literaly combo Junpei two times

[@kokoakat]

idk guys i think i'm okay with him not being peeled

[@sammychristopher7850]

We should just be able to have Elizabeth on the team, the mc wouldn’t stand a chance 😂.

[@smoker5989]

Can't the MC fight against her alone though?

[@sammychristopher7850]

@@smoker5989 yeah but it’s really hard though.

[@General_C]

​@@smoker5989You HAVE to face her solo. She won't throw hands unless you go alone.

[@sammychristopher7850]

“When in doubt…Megidolaon.”- Elizabeth

[@darktyrantkingsonicofhell8117]

Actually, igor called p3mc the strongest guest he ever had and he didnt say that to anyone else

[@dwililith]

ITS SOULLESS PEEL THIS MAN RIGHT NOW

[@0MujaKina0]

( In a different universe ) Shadow FEMC / Kotone: 😐 (8:33) Akihiko: Oh no! It's her!😖 Shinjiro: DAMN!😠 Ken: Big sis?😭

[@palamecianrider7385]

They fixed the script with this one. The last one was a bit out there but this time Yukari's feelings on the matter is on point. The loss of a loved one is different for everyone to cope. Just like a mother who would gladly exchange her life to have the chance to save their dead children is the kind of feel I get this time.

[@KazKusuo]

Thank GOD they didn’t do Makoto dirty like in fes 😂

[@smoker5989]

Apparently everyone here wanted to see my boy getting peeled off again.

[@0Z4ND3R0]

Idk why but it finally clicked for me that the reason that Aegis is wearing armor is she sees herself as a human not a weapon anymore so that makes sense or am I digging too deep?

[@dialga236]

nah nah youre cooking i think, like i dont think in universe thats what the characters were thinking but its def symbolic, atleast imo

[@0Z4ND3R0]

@@dialga236 yeah I was thinking a lot about it since pre-the Answer, Aegis sees herself as a weapon and her protection is already her "skin" shell

[@fresh9530]

such a shame they didn’t do the original cutscene

[@aldrednieto8448]

I remember watching the OG Walkthrough of Persona 3 The answer this looks exactly the same

[@LolloGamer95]

I can smell a shitty joke.

[@aldrednieto8448]

@@LolloGamer95 huh what is it?

[@Jdogjaden]

@@aldrednieto8448bro this is a terrible representation of the plot. it’s mid now good to know this isn’t worth.

[@connorharnage6697]

@@JdogjadenAh yes "new is mid" even though this is identical to the original besides the MC not being peeled like an orange

[@Crashman-1005]

4:29 makoto got some fast ahh walking speed or she got some slow ahh running speed… or both.

[@precascer8221]

I came here to see the creepy peel of Minato and they made it a sad instead of creepy tone. Dang it, I had such high hopes lmao

[@Dreagohalo]

Yukari loves Makoto!! That’s for sure, she was willing to go back to the past to save him, that’s what I call loyalty

[@pablo-k7w5f]

I literally predicted they'd change "that" cutscene to him exploding into butterflies with a friend the other day. Why can't we just have raw turmoil in our Persona 3 anymore smh

[@SpideyfanX]

Because unfortunately we gotta deal with tourists who want things to be PG in an M-Rated game.

[@LolloGamer95]

The death its sadder now

[@m3tl1kv3e9]

Shadow MC I didn't see that coming.

[@loaky6313]

This thumbnail and title honestly ruined my day and my playthrough of the DLC. Thanks for the spoiler.

[@ULTDAM]

The games been out since 2006 it's called persona 3 *RELOAD* for a reason

[@loaky6313]

@@ULTDAM Not all people played the old versions. So many people are just now coming to the games.

[@saj9972]

​@@loaky6313we shudnt make concessions for those ppl tho, its the internet u ainy supressing shit and no one is obligated to keep a nearly 2 decade old game spoiler free. suck it up or cry bout it.

[@Bunke987]

@@loaky6313 bro is turning up late to a party and then complaining 😭

[@loaky6313]

@@Bunke987 Yeah nah I’m sorry I didn’t have a PSP to play the game bro 💀💀💀 You can’t be serious. Many people in this comment section complain about that too.

[@garmering]

At least he didnt get fuckinh flayed this time

[@Sam0ura1]

imagine if Labrys from P4A/U would come then replacing Aragaki in there

[@MDFAPS]

They dont have balls for doing peel scene again 😂

[@Persona1996]

Why do none of them recognize Makoto

[@zerefdragnell8756]

This is another reason why I prefer playing Persona 3 Fes to Reload. The original Persona was much scarier and more brutal. Just when the false main character disappears, the old version was much more violent and brutal than the new one. There he broke up in a brutal way, unlike here. Also, the old openings are much better than the new ones. Burn My Dread fits Persona 3 much better than the new one.

[@SpideyfanX]

It's funny how this game claims to be M-Rated, but then it doesn't even have the guts to do what the original did, instead censoring it till its PG, so that the babies that came from Persona 5 don't get scared and crap their diapers lmfao.

[@Hyp3rSonic]

I enjoyed this version as well 👍

[@bradleyvenardi434]

Anyone getting a persona 4 last izanami dungeon vibe from this music!?

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

😴 Months later and the only thing I see on the comments are APOLOGISTS!

[@kopicopium6304]

....god it wasnt the peel version, kinda sad since i feel that really represent the who atmosphere better but the animation really improved and is hella good, i just wished they kept it tbh...but again this also feels..more right? idk ahahaha but he really did well..we'll miss this dude fr

[@Arexion5293]

Aw man Reload didn't keep the peeling. Like sure, Reload kinda ditches the surreal horror atmosphere of P3's anime cutscenes entirely and the new version goes more for character emotion, but I think the old one still works better. The emotional character reaction from Aigis as she's reminded of his passing again is expected, it makes sense but it is very simple mood wise. The old one meanwhile is haunting, disturbing, makes the whole aspect of mortality and death show its gruesome side in a surreal and quiet manner. We're all flesh automatons powered by neural transmitters, and yet that whole creates a person who leaves an impact in one's life. Call me a boomer, but I prefer the old way more.

[@KuroYamigetsu]

Peeling mod when?

[@Hello_There57]

I really like that they didn't peel him off This cutscene had a different vipe than the original This cutscene felt like makoto was there and wanted to stop them before hurting themselves fighting Erubos and he disappeared a the blue butterfly that symbolizes the spiritual guide went forward before it disappeared Its like he was the shadow

[@AloyImpact]

Why ? Why did they change the scene when he phased out of existence-_- what is the point the ps2 scene was way better.

[@waygraph1920]

Deym, the shooting their head with the special gun is not so impactfull anymore, unlike in the OG.

[@itsyaboiguzma]

Damn they really downgraded the MC becoming the seal cutscene. The original was both haunting and impactful this is just an overwhelming meh. The revamped and new music is great but they did the cutscenes dirty.

[@ArcRay20]

tsk tsk, the original was far more jarring and left one hell of an impression with the post fight cutscene.

[@foodmr2022]

They tamed his skeleton and instead showed aigis trying to reach boss mc 😢😢 kinda sad in away.

[@Kazeki001]

No cutscene or anything for the most impactful part of the story? The ps2 ver had an entire anime cs dedicated to this. This remake of ep aigis is a joke

[@prismaticstars7587]

Guess they thought having the peel scene was too much for modern day people. rip.

[@SpideyfanX]

That's exactly what it is. They can't handle the idea of an M-Rated Game having M-Rated elements. So what do they do? Censor and water down everything. I'm laughably amazed this game even HAS an M Rating still.

[@moomer2675]

He doesn't spin the gun in battle after all. Lame..

[@zaqareemalcolm]

Only when he switches Personas like in the Journey

[@Makidei-su]

Well... that's fast af.😅 first day of release and you already clear the game.

[@fresh9530]

it’s so tame and pathetic compared to the original. Rather than makoto just disappearing into butterflies, symbolizing the their want for him back, the original’s peeling of the ideas away from him was such an interesting way to visualize loss, as if the words fading into the atmosphere were all they had left. While the reload version focuses on the goal, the FES version focuses on the pain and shock of loosing a loved one, which is far more impactful when they all face each other. Such a let down, but it’s kinda what I expect from modern Altus.

[@theonewho...1298]

Y'know I don't know why but i liked Metis explanation in the previous version. Maybe because there was more emotion in it? Edit: in that one she sounded aggravated by the teams ignorance despite using persona themselves here she's calm

[@Random_gamer_w]

Watching this cuz I got beat bozo turn 1

[@thesecond1a]

16:46 bro wtf is this? This is not what happened.

[@MarK0-D4c]

Omg, is DOOR KUN

[@Parlance]

Metis's line delivery at 18:20 compared to P3FES is so bad imo. Im not sure if they removed her bitchy attitude throughout the whole DLC but it's a shame if they did.

[@tensaazzangetsu8684]

35$ 🥲

[@saj9972]

wat do u mean by this?

[@LovesickMisanthrope]

Kinda sad that the og shadow makoto getting depleted it was one of the most disturbing scenes, and seeing it axed is disappointing.

[@c_Cashman]

Common atlus L

[@SuperMandibleclaw]

There's nothing L about this

[@LolloGamer95]

Atlus W

[@Jdogjaden]

@@LolloGamer950 emotion. $35 dollars for korumaru to pout and team members to gasp when he disappears 🙏

[@Jdogjaden]

@@SuperMandibleclaw$35 btw 😐

[@connorharnage6697]

@@Jdogjaden0 emotion? Ok now I know you didn't pay attention. Especially with Junpei and Yukari, they've put in more emotion than anyone did in the original. Koromaru pouting isn't the whole game. Also $35 for essentially a whole seperate game is fair

[@finnewar]

i will never buy persona 6.

[@Yusei255]

they really need to stop with this Kiddy level of difficulty.

[@jakerobert5374]

Trash dlc

[@gamerbeast3616]

We dindt ask for your horrible opinion

[@petergriscom3431]

That's lame, they P4'd it. Can't have anything standout or unique, it's all mediocrity from here on.

[@SpideyfanX]

They gotta appeal to the Persona 5 fans, after all. "We can't scare our modern audience or we'll get cancelled, so we gotta turn our M-Rated Game into a PG Game!"

[@petergriscom3431]

@@SpideyfanX It really is a monkey's paw wish that Atlus was saved from bankruptcy.

[@Broski26]

I truly thought and wished that that they would change “The Answer’s” story to fit the main themes of the main story. Its still makes me deeply upset that they had to digress Yukari’s and Mitsuru’s character so low for plot fodder.

[@joaolima7131]

Then you completely missed the point of the Answer in both stances, it fits the main theme perfectly fine, The answer was always about how grief affect those left behind and that they should move on, the main story mostly embraces Memento mori, while The answer embrace Memento viveri, the full phrase was always Memento mori, memento vivere, remember you will die, remember to live, meaning you shouldn't stop enjoying life because you will die one day AND when someone close to you dies, and it was only 1 month after, even if they lost someone before, it's not gonna stop hurting when it happens again, they were even more upset because they didn't know why he died, thus, the regret, thinking it could be preventable

[@zeroskaterz92]

It's literally fit the theme of death, grief and moving on. Wtf are you even on about?

[@vivid8979]

Bro wants his headcanon to be canon. 🤣

[@LolloGamer95]

​@@joaolima7131Atlus decide whats canon and whats not, not you.

[@joaolima7131]

@@LolloGamer95 it's not me moron, it was always this for 18 years

[@SpideyfanX]

They ruined this DLC, and made it for babies. Glad I never bought this game.

[@gamerbeast3616]

No they dindt lmao

[@FluppietheRockruffFan]

The fact you and went and complained on most of the comments yet never played the Remake itself kinda shows how much a hypocrite you are, in order to prove me wrong explain about 10 to 15 new things the Remake added. No searching up, just do it rn.

[@SpideyfanX]

@@FluppietheRockruffFan I can tell you what the Remake REMOVED, especially from Episode Aigis: 1. Yukari's scene. She was meant to showcase just how DESPERATE she was to go back in time to see MC again, to the point of even trying to snatch the keys from Aigis even AFTER she lost. Her and Mitsuru's characters got watered down and sanitized to the point that the emotional impact of the scene is gone. 2. Shadow MC's death was gory, sure, but that's how it was meant to be. It was meant to not just show what it means to actually did, but it also shows HOW Makoto slowly became the Great Seal, and hammer it in to SEES that he's dead and gone. The gore is meant to show them how scary death is without trying to sugarcoat it. By having him disappear into just butterflies, it takes away from the scene and makes it GENERIC. 3. The cutscenes. While they may look better than the original, what it lacks in terms of animation is fluidity. The characters all seem stiff, with more focus being put on how they look rather than how they ACT. Even in the main story, the fact they couldn't re-animate Shinjiro's death by hand, and instead had to use the in-game engine says a lot about their lack of faith in their animation team. But of course, a tourist like you wants to think that they've got the upper hand, so let me prove you wrong. Most of the additions to the remake can easily be summed up as "from Persona 5": - Online Network to help give the best possible answer - Theurgy is the Showtime equivalent for Persona 3 - The original Social Link System, while flawed, actually gave the player consequences for screwing up and didn't have a rewind mechanic where they can go back in time to redo it. - Removal of the fatigue system, which forced players to think about how they want to manage their in-game time. - Removal of the Swim Club, Kendo Club, Photography Club, and Music Club. - Level 99 not making stats 999 anymore, which back then showed to the player that their efforts to reach that level brought great rewards. - The random floor generation for Tartarus doesn't happen every floor anymore. This was meant to show how unpredictable the dungeon can be in-lore, by having it continuously shifting, even if you were going down a floor and making it a consequence for the player if they did not explore the entirety of the previous layout of the floor. - The voice cast. They're all okay, EXCEPT for Akihiko's English voice. That was not the right choice, and it doesn't even sound close to how Akihiko sounds in the original, nor is it a good way of adapting it. With it not matching Liam O'Brien's performance, it lacks the emotional depth it could've had. Another VA I feel did NOT do so good would be Yukari's new VA, who is MASSIVELY toned down from the original one, and again, watered down and sanitized, to the point that they're not even the same character in Episode Aigis. The original Yukari was meant to showcase how desperate someone can and is willing to get while trying to process grief. Yukari's attitude in the original was justified given the losses she'd suffered. And Episode Aigis has NONE of that emotion. Yukari is meant to be flawed, she saw the one person who was by her side after her father passed away, she saw him die, and wanted the chance to see him again, just so she doesn't have to feel the agony of loss and pain again. By over-correcting what shouldn't have been a problem, the Remake practically made Yukari far more generic than she should be. - Scripted Events in boss fights. Nobody likes dealing huge damage, only for most of it to mean nothing because a certain scene has to happen in said boss fight, especially for anyone trying to do New Game+. - The lack of Margaret. Having her as a secret boss fight would not only be a good way to kick down players who think they've had the game beat after defeating Elizabeth, but it would also be a showcase of what's to come if they try out Persona 4 Golden. Margaret's inclusion is meant to link both games together, and even show that while time may pass in the real world, it ever so slightly crawls within in the Velvet Room, and that the Velvet Room works with its own rules. - Plumes of Dusk being removed. They were meant to serve as a special item that are meant to be used only in emergencies for Beginner and Easy difficulty. And even in higher difficulties, you only get one from Elizabeth, because of how important it is. By having only one Plume of Dusk, it raises the stakes for the player because they only have the ONE revival item that they can only use once, so they should not allow themselves the chance to lose in a fight and waste it away.

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Ayo, Atlus got their potato peeler revoked :v