Personal protection: .357 SIG vs. .40 s/w

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[@vxy357]

Uh...No honey dear. Are you sure you didn't leave them in the car or back at the supermarket ( as he slowly tip-toes out the back door)?

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Yes dear I just applied the tenderizer to them.

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If the cashier were paying attention, he'd realize Paul is too in shape to drink that much soda!

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That's is truly laugh out loud funny (and when I write it out, rather than the usual "lol", it means I actually and literally laughed out loud - I suspect at least 7 out of 10 "lols". I think most of those people didn't even laugh in quietly).

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"I guess technically they're bottles, but I like saying jugs." Me too.

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Paul is the only man buying jugs of soda, pork chops and watermelon and not having a bbq.

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I wouldn't want to have BBQ pork ribs at his place.

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[@Peakfreud]

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[@Prepper319]

As - salamu alaykum (May peace be upon you) Paul , many of your videos have saved the lives of my fellow country men here in Pakistan. We use the info you provide in your video to train our local police & militia so that we can fight taliban oppression , may god bless you brother keep up the great work !

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Your local police and military Are the taliban. Pakistan is a terrorist harboring country

[@MrBonebus]

@@mattdg1981 my same afterthought. but on what he said Harrell is probably one of the best people on here for beginner and intermediate information he covers almost all fundamentals for the topics he speaks about

[@stevenunyabidness]

there really aren't a lot of free, in depth industry references in the gun world. Paul does a LOT to fill that niche from a practical perspective so i'm inclined to believe.

[@770Barney]

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[@crandall777]

I was confronted by cinder blocks recently but they backed off when I dropped your name. Thanks for keeping the videos flowing

[@sdlynch1770]

A 10 lb sledge hammer is my weapon of choice against cinder blocks.

[@zechnarwilliams8019]

Lol sir! incredibly witty!

[@TheWartHawg]

Same thing happened to me with a meat target.

[@ashton564]

Randall n Bandit damn right they did!

[@minnesnowtan9970]

Those sons of bricks!

[@lukewarm1740]

I love how Paul nonchalantly pulls handguns and boxes of ammo from his magical pockets.

[@JettBlast]

He is like a combat Captain Kangaroo...

[@ratagris21]

Secret Stash or Cache.

[@RabbiSteve]

@@JettBlast Perfect description!

[@SKUBA215]

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[@HaveRandomQuestions]

its a high capacity jacket

[@catlover1986]

I do love my .40 cal. I always love this guy because he's one of the only one that isn't biased. Some of these guys actually label 40 as the "worst round" you can buy. Outrageous and laughable.

[@beargillium2369]

@Jason Vorhees should watch his presentation of the Miami Dade shootout, he goes into a lot of detail about 40 vs 9 especially

[@jas4everchanged]

I love my .40 too!!! I also love10mm and 9x25 Dillion!! I’m sure the .357 is awesome as well but do not have hands on experience with that caliber. .40 however is definitely a great round for me!!! Best wishes!!!

[@robertmosher7418]

I have never heard the 40 S&W was the worst round. I've only heard how 9mm is the best because of quicker target acquisition on follow on shots and the modern bullet weights and design make the ballistics nearly parallel. Though, since they make the same bullet designs for the 40, 45 and 357sig...so I am not sure how they can say that. Bottom line is that 380 is not recommended due to very little development of that particular round and it's 9mm short. The 40 is a great caliber as are 10mm, 45, 357sig and 9mm. I can only ponder if those naysayers about the 40 think poorly of the round because you do not have any +p rounds possible due to the pressures of the 40 are already very high.

[@beargillium2369]

@@robertmosher7418 gotta consider that the entire fbi and many other agencies made the switch to 40, only to later switch back. When the entirety of such a large agency can't reliably train on a caliber, it's safe to say at the very least that it's not the best one out there?

[@robertmosher7418]

@@beargillium2369 except that they were using S&W model 36 five shot snub nosed 38 spec when they got into that firefight in Miami. They then developed the 10mn because they were too good to use the 9mm or 45 and felt they needed to make a statement to bad guys. Once the issued all their agents 10mm they found it difficult to control and that though it would penetrate through car doors like they wanted, it also suffered from over penetration and the pistols were not all that fun to shoot...to the effect that agents complained of minor injuries and most, other than their HRT unit, disliked it. So S&W went back to the drawing board and developed the 10mm short or the 40 S&W. Because, once again, they refused to switch to a 9mm or 45. Once they issued the 40 they kept it for years (which had almost every police agency switch to the 40 cal) until the 357 Sig came out and they, like hundreds of police departments switched to the newest, shiniest caliber. They didn't carry that long and decided to go, finally, to the 9mm...but not because the last two were deficient, rather because they had an easier time keeping their Sigs on target, modern bullet development increased the 9mm terminal ballistics and they could squeeze 17 rounds into the gun. Since they don't carry but two magazines and one is the spare, unless they are serving a high risk warrant (which, other than their local SRT or national HRT, they never do without a taskforce with LLEO and US Marshals) they felt they needed the extra 5 rounds in each magazine. I will give them this caveat about not going straight to the 9mm...back when they were going through this whole process no 9mm had a capacity over 9 or 10 rounds. Most were at 8 still as a slim profile and lightweight pistol were on vogue. It wasn't until the midway point of the 10mm issue that Glock released the G17 and that caused everyone to develop a 15+ magazine. The FBI switching to the 9mm caused every other police department, who hadn't already, to also return to the 9mm So, that's sorta, kinda, the story as told to me by my close friend who is retired FBI and former HRT operator.

[@timothygottmann1327]

.357 Sig the only caliber Jack “BigDick” Wilson carries

[@beardedbjorn5520]

Is he the Chad that domed the church shooter?

[@DM-mi4je]

@@beardedbjorn5520 yes the doomer never knew what hit him... In between the eyes

[@vladmordekeiser1054]

@Earl Lee Try that with .25 acp and then tell us...

[@vladmordekeiser1054]

@UCWExawCLbF9cvDLjtYLIFEA I wouldn't trust a .32 acp for that. Wouldn't work 100% of the time. Once when I was a policeman here I took a guy to the hospital with two .380 shots in his head, both near each other, right above his ear. He was OK, conscious. Just lost lots of blood. Later the nurse told me the projectiles just got stuck in his skull and didn't reach the brain. Anecdotal, of course.... But still.

[@RandyNewmanFan]

@Earl Lee actually he only took a headshot because it was his only clear shot.

[@Chieflywaze]

I was saving up for some 2A body armor, but instead I'm stocking up on high tech fleece blankets!!

[@scottlynch1411]

This deserves more likes.

[@ecoaide3]

@Ryan Kiesow r/whoosh

[@skysthelimit6495]

Level 2A! I know your joking but you need 3A

[@bob15479]

This guy isn't tacticool at all yet he'd wreck all the tacticool youtubers in a gunfight.

[@Troacoli]

he won one in real life.

[@akman45304]

Absolutely I just stumbled onto him and I'm a fan already a fan

[@Mr.Highway]

Even Superman was an everyday Man, just incognito like Paul....

[@boomerisadog3899]

Jerry Miculek could shoot circles around Paul. I like Paul and really enjoy his videos but Jerry is a legend in his own time.

[@istinklikebutt45]

Boomerisadog I think you missed the point. Being a great shooter doesn't necessarily equal being a great gunfighter either.

[@af7119]

From all of Paul's videos, I've come to the conclusion that every caliber has it's advantages and disadvantages. It's almost like there is some form of tradeoff that people must make.

[@naturewatcher64]

Paul gives you the data that will help you make the best decision for your self.

[@af7119]

@@naturewatcher64 hope you picked up on my sarcasm.

[@ratagris21]

"You be the Judge!"

[@franciscodanconia3551]

@@ratagris21 I don't wanna be the Judge. I've seen his videos on them. The Circuit Judge was particularly disappointing. I wanna be the Magnum Research BFR in .444 Marlin.

[@RabbiSteve]

Yeah, almost.

[@Ammo08]

I wish I could give you multiple thumbs up. Praying for you.

[@millibarman]

"I like to say jugs..." LoL There's at least one moment in every PH video that makes me belly laugh out load! Thanks.

[@joewarnstrom3600]

I'm very impressed at how professional, straightforward, and well spoken you are in your tests. Great work.

[@mefirst5427]

Noticed the 40 S&W had less felt recoil muzzle rise than the 357 sig. At the range, 357 sig is much louder than 40

[@keithgraham9547]

I bought a Glock 33 this summer. Subcompact 357 SIG, shooting mainly 125 grain flat nose, 59 cents per round. (Edit July 2023, now 46 cents per round.) Love the Sig, I find complaints about recoil greatly exaggerated. However, tough to get ammo and it's expensive. I can get a 40 S&W precision barrel around $200 including tax and shipping. 40 S&W 165 grain jhp same brand as the 357 SIG, is 32 cents. Pays for the barrel in under 700 rounds. My question is for 40 cal shooters - in a subcompact like this, am I giving much away carrying 40 cal jhp? Would you be happy with the trade-off? What would be the drawbacks if I carried in 40 sometimes on a subcompact? Edit July 2023: I bought a SIG P229 and have 40 and 357 SIG barrels. Both shoot great and I'm very trustful if either with normal ammo, usually flat nose and 165/125 grain. IMO, oddball ammo tends to be highly unpredictable and I don't see the point in these calibers. Standard ammo will take down anything as well or better than hyper(expensive)ammo.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

@@keithgraham9547 In a short barrel there's probably not much in it. Maybe a slight advantage to 357 in that you're taking the guesswork out of your HP expansion, they're definitely going fast enough. That said remember that your barrel doesn't need to be flush, nothing stopping you throwing a G23 barrel in there. I reload so it's all the same to me, a primer is a primer. Haven't really shot anything but 357 SIG, 10mm, and 45 Super for the last couple of years.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

@@robertg8565 You'll get 1400 out of a 125gr no bother. You start hitting diminishing returns with lighter bullets very quickly, you can push a 115gr at 1600, 90gr at around 1700 - problem is JHP just explodes on contact, doesn't penetrate for shit. It really is very heavily optimised for a "sensible magnum" 125gr load.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

@@robertg8565 Bit of a stunt load in 357 SIG, much like Barnes TAC-XP. Might as well just get a 5.7 out at that point.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

@@robertg8565 Not any more they don't, and your POI is going to shift significantly if you're changing between 68gr screamers and normal loads.

[@Coyote-wm5op]

Since .357 Sig is expensive and hard to find my .40 will do just fine. After shooting a lot of .40 ammo the Hornady Critical Defense in 165 grain is a nasty one.

[@spaceshuttledoorgunner1154]

No one is saying your .40 is bad. But... if you had selected a .357sig, it would have been better :)

[@largol33t1]

@@spaceshuttledoorgunner1154 The ONLY thing I like about .357 Sig is its reliability because of the shape of the case. It is too loud, too expensive and too difficult to find. Switched the barrel to a .40 and haven't looked back since. I think this caliber will be very hard to find in the future. The prices are ridiculous. While a box of .45 ACP by Winchester sold for $24, the .357 Sig ammo by the same brand cost $10 more!

[@usa-rb5fi]

The tables have turned in my area, I can find sig, and 40 is hard to find

[@paulscountry456]

That is maybe the best choice, 500ftlbs, they expand to a massive 7 tenths or better , they dont clog and jacket separation is not a issue, penetration in gel is perfect.I like Dots too.

[@marquesridley2464]

usa2012 same my local spot has been having plenty of sig

[@Gigaheart]

So would you say they are SIGnificantly better?

[@randycollins87]

Scheefinator yes

[@jorgeu111]

good dad joke

[@Banshee365]

You be the judge.

[@eince03]

Nah

[@anvilhammer9026]

@B real you don't have to buy a new gun just a barrel

[@jamessmith-ow1bf]

Thank you for talking about anything besides a 9mm!

[@ethanp7183]

@Ethan Mac agreed man I love .40. My first pistol was a walther pps in .40 and I will always love that thing

[@KJK_ATX]

Amen and no shit! I agree.

[@KJK_ATX]

@Ethan Mac I believe the video was just to differentiate between the two calibers. FPC is definitely a decision that you have to make when going with a certain caliber. I have all three, 9, 40 and .357 Sig. Honestly, I wouldn't want to get shot with any of them.

[@northernninety7]

@Ethan Mac Sounds like 9mm being popular troubles your soul for some reason.

[@northernninety7]

@Ethan Mac For most people it is. For typical self defense, there is not much difference in terminal ballistics between 9, 40 and 45. The most notable difference is penetration which is the most important factor of a bullet after accuracy. 40 would probably win that but 9 and 45 both qualify in that regard. And 9 gives you the most chances to hit someone and make more holes. Afterall, blood loss is what kills them if the round doesnt hit the brain, spine or something to instantly kill or incapacitate them.

[@spacebear49]

You sir go through a helluva lot of soda. I'd be curious who goes through more, Mr. Harrell or Hickok45...

[@o01chris10o]

Harrel by fat

[@may2888]

Hickok45 smokes way more pot

[@bertg.6056]

@@may2888 Hickock doesn't like little clay pots or steel cowboys.

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Hickock's ants build statues in his honor. Every Christmas the ant children hear tales of Hickok Claus.

[@chuckvt5196]

Great info! The .357 Sig has been my favorite for a few years now. Love that caliber! Not to mention, with a necked cartridge, the chance of a failure to feed is much less!

[@monroetoolman]

Who else was impressed by the amount of abuse that 3A vest took and was still stopping rounds?

[@PaulHarrell]

And that vest had been shot several times on a previous occasion.

[@monroetoolman]

Kevlar. Good stuff.

[@TheTAGriffin]

Not with a 357SIG & a RIP round, even at 300 feet.Now that's a combo I love! @@monroetoolman

[@jspears2320]

I'm surprised it didn't penetrate, mainly because he was able to penetrate with a 9mm PCC, which was putting out relatively same velocity and mass.

[@onemoremisfit]

Taking deer at 50 yds with .45 auto impressed me.

[@whiplash8277]

Reading many of the below comments, I must say Paul is the real deal, and that is not a slight to any other RL gun guy or KZbin gun channel. Paul has 20 years military, the CIB, tons of marksman and higher badges and real world experience of a gunfight with another civilian, which Paul won. He is super knowledgeable and proficient. I like the guy a lot and i take his presentations as straight forward, no BS representations. Been a gun owner for 45+ years, and while being no way an expert, I know what i know, and Harrell is, as stated, the real deal. Thanks for another outstanding presentation, Sir. BTW, big .357 Sig fan...it's my EDC.

[@factsoftheconfederacy7151]

The only issue with .357 SIG is price and availability. I see no other realistic issue with the cartridge.

[@vversusv1364]

@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 And perhaps shootability, depending on who's using it and how much practice they have.

[@toddy2519]

@@factsoftheconfederacy7151 That's exactly why I reload all the ammo for my Springfield XD in 357 SIG.

[@toddy2519]

I'm with you on that one as the 357 SIG is one of my favorite calibers! (my top favorite is .45 Colt!!!)

[@factsoftheconfederacy7151]

toddy2519 the funny thing is that availability is actually better now than it was, at least compared to 9mm and other more common cartridges. I always find a box or two locally and online. People ignored it for its price, now it’s one of the only rounds you can get.

[@professorbland]

"the downside is that when i go to the store to buy .357SIG ammo, everyone laughs at me" LOL

[@area.man.]

The upside is when I go to the store to buy 357 Sig, it is always in stock. Especially right now. Good luck 9mm'ers.

[@area.man.]

@Crown Commando Right now at my Cabela's 357 Sig is $2 cheaper than 9MM for 50 rounds, and actually was the only handgun ammo they had on the shelf. At Sportsman's Warehouse 357 Sig hollow points are $10 cheaper for the 25 round boxes.

[@area.man.]

@Crown Commando Nice, I got the Sig Sauer brand last week when I was there FMJ 50 box was $16. $18 for their HP box. That is the cheapest I've ever seen it. I'm going to be ordering a can from Georgia Arms.

[@ilcctinstructor6870]

I actually had a clerk legitimately make fun of me once for carrying .357SIG. He said I needed a 'man's gun' like .357MAG. He had a snubby .38Spl on, so I just rolled my eyes and did my thing. I just don't get the resistance to .357SIG. It's an overall great cartridge for more experienced shooters to handle. Too bad it's not more popular since it would bring the price down a bit.

[@paulhomsy2751]

@@ilcctinstructor6870 If it was more popular it would bring the price UP.

[@QbutNotTheQ]

The range must have a lot of happy ants. 🐜🐜🐜

[@1582881]

All I heard is the sound of freedom.

[@BigRudy53]

You're an idiot

[@svenfigueroa312]

zagorith14 haaaahaha! 👍👍👍👍🤣

[@MasterBlaster220]

interstingly the european round sounded louder like freedom then the US one. Very strange.

[@scottyfox6376]

Yes I'm totally envious of your freedom guys. It's been 24yrs since my rifles were subjected to my government's dropsaw. This is my only realistic way of enjoying my extinct hobby & hunting. Have a gr8 day everyone.

[@bosspierre7794]

Chris Armitage u

[@eduardovillalon7496]

This is BY FAR the best gun channel, I love it ! Congratulations Paul !

[@frankcastle9691]

Eduardo Villalon no I'd say hickok45 is the best gun channel.

[@eduardovillalon7496]

Frank Castle I respect your opinion, and I do like hickock45 too. But Paul Harrell’s is the most professional and objective channel here without any doubt. Long live to Paul !

[@paulhomsy2751]

@@frankcastle9691 No, he doesn't hold a candle to Paul Harrel.

[@jayyoung5423]

Hey Paul, well done. I've owned a .357 Sig for many years and is my favorite handgun of many..well thought out and presented, thanks.

[@belowme70-1]

his conclusion is exactly why i haven't switched, ya gotta pay for that special hot ammo to exceed what .40 is already doing. both respectable rounds though imo, but ill keep the different flavors of .40 thank you!

[@JustDefense]

Buy a .357 Sig barrel for it and have both.

[@belowme70-1]

@@JustDefense g29/30 and g27/29/33 😉 one with 10mm, one with 357 sig rn. I've since allowed my son to inherit the .40s lol.

[@1978garfield]

A moment of silence for all the vintage leather, pork,beef,produce and tasty Shasta that has been sacrificed for science. Seems like we should pour a drink on the ground in memorial but I think Paul has that covered.

[@cbr600rrturbo]

I like the word ( jugs ) better to

[@justinv3080]

Tactical I never even noticed he says jugs in all the videos until he pointed it out

[@rickbarton8092]

Mmmm...jugs. :)

[@JuggoJuggo]

He has mentioned to me in the comments that people were attempting to give him the business about using the word jugs instead of bottles, which is why he mentioned it. Ahhh KZbin, good times good times.

[@sethtenrec6476]

soda jugs!!

[@bldlightpainting]

Grow up little boys and learn to communicate respectfully and intelligently like real men, not spewing disgusting filth like some uneducated street thug raised by drug addicts. Your parents must be so proud. How pathetic. "Profanity proves neither toughness nor intelligence, only a lack of self-control, morals, maturity, language skills and character." BLD

[@cameronnorton5898]

I'm so glad you're here Paul. Your videos are the best videos out there when it comes to comparing ammunition effectiveness. The meat target makes much more sense than ballistics gel.

[@dang3]

357 Magnum Bear I totally agree.

[@jabbafo]

He is by far my favorite firearms related channel. All substance, no fluff. He isn't trying to sell me anything, just giving me information, sometimes for questions I didn't even know I had.

[@wayneparker9331]

Totally agree with you about Paul's videos in general and the meat target in particular.

[@elmateo77]

I think it'd work better if he just shot it once with each round though, 4-5 rounds of pretty much anything is gonna tear somebody up the difference is whether 1 round will stop them or not.

[@bigsean2473]

@@elmateo77 whether 1 round will stop them or not.?? im shooting whoever at least 3x just to be sure there dead and not getting up. that 1 round stop not for me triple tap out the gate

[@rcruz003]

Great video Paul. Rest easy my friend

[@evilnineteen]

I carry .40 S&W and I will continue to carry it. Its a good compromise between 9mm and .45 acp. The round is proven no matter what anybody says about it. I think practice drawing and shot placement is much more important than the round ypu carry. I can do a lot of damage with a .22 just from placing my shots in effective areas on the target.

[@acid6urns]

40 isn’t even a compromise on 45. most .40 sw loads (particularly 165gr loads) have a LOT more energy than .45, unless you step up to .45 acp +p which even then you can get .40 ammo that competes with the +p too. .40 also gives you the same capacity (or larger capacity) as the .45 but is almost always in a fair bit smaller gun.

[@jtoker9758]

357 sig is very underrated. Not sure why it isn't more mainstream than it is. Almost comparable to the big dicked big brother 357 Mag.

[@jorgesolis9468]

Very comparable is full sized pistols and duty revolvers both launch 125 gr bullets at 1450 fps only thing is that's about where 357 sig maxes out while 357 mag can still go more powerful

[@justusbryant7366]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@SuperD00D]

.40 is actually more powerful. When you get the hottest factory ammo for both, the 135 gr Underwood .40 nosler, and 124 gr Underwood .357 sig nosler, the .40 reigns supreme. So .357 sig can not claim to be more powerful, no matter how many big companies load .40 and 10mm way under saami spec and load .357 sig pretty close. The 135 gr and 155 gr underwoods are rated from a 3.4” barrel too, AZ AIRGUNNER just proved that with two recent videos of .40 vs .357 sig. He got exactly 589 ft lbs from the 3.4” barrel with the underwood 135 gr .40 nosler. The .357 sig nosler from them had 540 ft lbs. from the 3.4” From a 4.9” barrel the .40 had 675 ft lbs. The .357 sig had 640 ft lbs from a 4.5”. Gun Sam tested the .40 from a 4” and it got 610 ft lbs. Needless to say I picked up a fex boxes. It’s in saami spec and it shoots great from my Glock 23, not uncomfortable at all.

[@justusbryant7366]

@SuperD00D 357 sig is more powerful than 40. If it's not then it's not loaded right. It should be.

[@livewithnick]

it got fairly popular about 15 years ago. Like the .40 cal its dropped in popularity. Even more so probably.

[@a.w.w.728]

75k subs congrats! Channel has really exploded over the last year or so. Well deserved.

[@MrSGL21]

year and half later he's at 250k

[@onpsxmember]

@@MrSGL21 3 years later...639k

[@AllenBePro]

Great information that will be useful to me. Always perfectly presented. Thank you Paul.

[@CaptainXanax]

I am throwing out the ceramic and putting high tech fleece in my plate carrier as we speak!

[@georgejohnsmith]

+CaptainXanax. Oh no, you have got it wrong! You have to keep the ceramics, it is the plate carrier that gets replaced by the fleece.

[@yi-tzaistoyreview4576]

the 357 sig beat the .40 in every single way, right? That is what I saw. Did u see it? thx. I have a 27. I am thinking about getting a 22 and cut the grip. But, maybe I should get the 31? And cut the grip? thx. cut the grip down to a 27 size, so I can have a 27 long barrel in a 31 upper.

[@playerzero2236]

Allen BePro I love that paul doesnt just throw numbers at you from charts. He actuallly does field tests with different loads and handguns of the calibers he's discussing which is something his competition does not do. If he sold t shirts with a picture of a meat target i would buy two of them.

[@bldlightpainting]

The 357 SIG is just a 9mm bullet in a necked down .40S&W case, so you can think of it as a 9mm magnum.

[@gurugoguzhanson]

I think they would have sold a lot more guns in 9mm magnum than .357 SIG. Would have been easier to relate too.

[@gurugoguzhanson]

@Ish Naphtali Yes, I meant for the .357 SIG to have been named or renamed only as a 9mm Magnum round instead.

[@ejv0wjc08gtsnoj0]

10mm. not 40SW.

[@edraith]

It's a 10mm auto case necked down and slightly shortened. If you were to neck down a 40sw case to .355, you would obtain a shorter case than the original one, while on the contrary the .357sig it's actually slightly longer than a 40sw is. Plus, the 10mm auto and 357sig cases are slightly stronger than the 40sw.

[@paulscountry456]

Good name good point!

[@jamiesloan5902]

I still can't believe that after all of these years, .357sig hasn't became a mainstream cartridge. I really wish it would have taken off. But, I guess I'll continue to wait and see. Because as of right now, it's too expensive. I think it's the best carry option available. It's just very impressive, in any type of test that you wanna throw at it.

[@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303]

In the timeline where I’m from, it did! 🤓

[@carscigarsscotchnwatches5158]

good review as usual. The good thing is that the gun that is 40sw can be easily converted to 357sig with a barrel change only. Best of both worlds.

[@410Governor]

And .40 cal. mags work with .357 Sig cartridges, at least Glocks do. (And vice-versa)

[@SuperD00D]

.40 is actually more powerful. When you get the hottest factory ammo for both, the 135 gr Underwood .40 nosler, and 124 gr Underwood .357 sig nosler, the .40 reigns supreme. So .357 sig can not claim to be more powerful, no matter how many big companies load .40 and 10mm way under saami spec and load .357 sig pretty close. The 135 gr and 155 gr underwoods are rated from a 3.4” barrel too, AZ AIRGUNNER just proved that with two recent videos of .40 vs .357 sig. He got exactly 589 ft lbs from the 3.4” barrel with the underwood 135 gr .40 nosler. The .357 sig nosler from them had 540 ft lbs. from the 3.4” From a 4.9” barrel the .40 had 675 ft lbs. The .357 sig had 640 ft lbs from a 4.5”. Gun Sam tested the .40 from a 4” and it got 610 ft lbs. Needless to say I picked up a fex boxes. It’s in saami spec and it shoots great from my Glock 23, not uncomfortable at all.

[@thekaiser7555]

Retired Military Police here. Been everywhere. Seen it all. Did even more. This guy is more knowledgeable than anyone any armor or range instructor I have ever met in the US Army. Paul is fantastic. I look forward and looking at all of his new videos he puts out. Watch these. You’ll come out to be damn near a professional - after watching his videos. He’s great. Pelosi’s filthy hygiene is a national embarrassment.

[@richardlooch2109]

i agree. that was a great time to drop in your political opinion. fuck politics. fuck it all. its a sick joke meant to divide the people.

[@bnease007]

I respect Paul Harrrell’s ability to stick to the point without adding additional and unrelated narrative. His presentation was based entirely on comparison/contrast. I noted he added nothing tangential; i.e., unrelated to the topic. Many could learn much from his well thought out presentation smile and his thorough focus on the relevant tasks at hand. Such is the skill of a consummate professional. I do not understand the need for your irrelevant non sequitur. Neither your allegations of another’s alleged hygiene, nor your lack of writing skills have anything to do with the merits or deficiencies of either the .357 SIG or the .40 S&W. Those with bad hygiene can easily take relatively short daily showers; those with have poor writing skills would be best served by repeating grades six through twelve. I sincerely wish you the best in your educational endeavors.

[@mcut2714]

​@@richardlooch2109 Lol... Because politicians never try to divide people 🙄.

[@richardlooch2109]

@@mcut2714 nice try. however people tend to take you more seriously when you read a comment before adding condescending replies.

[@gunnarpaternal7495]

Technically these are called bottles, but I like to say jugs.

[@42sconley]

I'd much rather talk about jugs than bottles :)

[@georgejohnsmith]

+Shawn Conley. Way too often go the two together.

[@Saved_Sinner0085]

5:35 the most gorgeous shooting range ever!

[@Nebula_Ultra]

Newtype 0085 i know!

[@HaTiinHD]

Why?

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Reminds me of those majestic golf holes on the Xbox golf game.

[@paulflannigan888]

Yeah, and he pointed out a deer just ambling by in another video. Gorgeous country.

[@TheWalterKurtz]

This proves you wouldn't want Paul Harrell plinking at you with a .357 Sig or a .40 S&W. When I bought a Sig P226 .357 Sig over 20 years ago I got a .40 S&W barrel too. No regrets.

[@craigbenz4835]

Sadly Sig no longer makes any 357 or 40 handguns. It's used or bust.

[@EricAssaf]

First time seeing a video from this channel. Simple quality comparison. Watched through the whole thing. This channel seems pretty underrated!

[@joep5627]

Love both of these rounds. So glad you did this video. I do hope to see more in the future. I throw money to your patreon account whenever I can to help keep these videos going. I like the way you present information, and I love your videos.

[@midnight4540]

Good info, 357 sig by far is a better performance round, but your point "availability & Expense" Key words. Keep up the good work.

[@imbluz]

Sorry, but your assertion is wrong. I welcome you to visit Ballistics 101 online. If you can read ballistics charts properly, you will find that the 40 S&W has loads every bit as powerful as the best 357 Sig loads.

[@berettaxd7566]

Average. 357 Sig is 500 ft lb. .40 is around 450 ft lb average.

[@berettaxd7566]

I use .40 though because better ammo choices like Ranger T.

[@videomaniac108]

I like Underwood Ammo's loading of the .357 Sig, as it very nearly achieves the ballistic performance of the .357 Magnum.

[@michaeldaltonsr8954]

TY! for 411.

[@onpsxmember]

Compared to a 125gr .357 Magnum load, sure.

[@followthegrow108]

Yup.

[@followthegrow108]

They're extreme penatrator .357 Sig has a muzzle velocity of 2100fps with 68gr and their 115gr at 1500 fps. Absolute nasty rounds. The 68gr has 700lb/ft of muzzle energy and can defeat all level ll and most basic level lll. Only need Glock to make a FN 5.7 with their 19 slim slide and their 17 frame like the 19x and underwood ammo to make their extremely hot ammo with an AP tungsten core. Just imagine having 32 rounds of that ammo no extended clip needed shooting armor piercing bullet at 2900 fps. FNs stock green tips are already hitting 2600-2700fps and I know under wood ammo could at 200 fps maybe even 300. That pistol with a red dot would have some amazing reach, no drop and could easily beat level lll a. Glock do it!

[@johnstockton8138]

@@followthegrow108 I made a 357 sig rifle out of glock 23, got 16 inch 357 sig barrel and a glock pistol brace with rails for flash light and optics, Shooting the 65 grain underwood 357 sig out of the 16 inch getting about 3000 fps. You can snipe things out to 200 + yards with an optic.

[@macpac3803]

I was gonna say should have tested the 9mm with the .40&357 but it wouldn't be fair because the 9mm blows the lung out of the body!

[@hamlinhobbyist7507]

" I guess technically they're bottles, but I like to say jugs". 😂

[@newdefsys]

Who came for the meat target ?

[@christopherneelyakagoattmo6078]

I was excited.

[@georgejohnsmith]

I thought I was the only vulture here with a smart phone and the ability to read and write. Shit, it is getting harder and harder to be unique in this crazy world.

[@princeofpickles9765]

Titties brought me to this channel🤔

[@brandonbowerstx]

"Horde of concrete blocks. " - Really wish I could hit that subscribe button again. LOL

[@scottschmidt7517]

Woods carry the G32, home defense carry with the G30 has been the method to my madness for years. I can reload for both and shoot both quite well. If there was a manufacture that produced a 1911 in 357 Sig (that isn't a jam-o-matic) there would be one next the G32 in the gun safe. 40 S&W is no slouch by no means and is part of my carry options. Another awesome video please keep em coming

[@SuperD00D]

.40 is actually more powerful. When you get the hottest factory ammo for both, the 135 gr Underwood .40 nosler, and 124 gr Underwood .357 sig nosler, the .40 reigns supreme. So .357 sig can not claim to be more powerful, no matter how many big companies load .40 and 10mm way under saami spec and load .357 sig pretty close. The 135 gr and 155 gr underwoods are rated from a 3.4” barrel too, AZ AIRGUNNER just proved that with two recent videos of .40 vs .357 sig. He got exactly 589 ft lbs from the 3.4” barrel with the underwood 135 gr .40 nosler. The .357 sig nosler from them had 540 ft lbs. from the 3.4” From a 4.9” barrel the .40 had 675 ft lbs. The .357 sig had 640 ft lbs from a 4.5”. Gun Sam tested the .40 from a 4” and it got 610 ft lbs. Needless to say I picked up a fex boxes. It’s in saami spec and it shoots great from my Glock 23, not uncomfortable at all.

[@williamantico7768]

Good Video. I appreciate your efforts and comments. How would a 10mm compare to the 357 Sig ? Which would you rather have if you were hiking in the woods and could potentially be attacked by a animal ?

[@Armored_Muskrat]

One thing I've noticed is that the 10mm handguns tend to be larger and clunkier than 357 sig. I have a Springfield XD in 357, and had one in 10mm. The 10mm was huge and clumsy, the 357 Sig is normal-sized. Also, 10mms seem to have a lot of problems. It seem to be a bit TOO stout for autoloading reliability.

[@josephb456]

It's currently a pandemic, so it's hard for me to gauge what the natural state of ammo pricing is, but is .357 SIG ammo usually quite pricey relative to say .40 S&W? Or even 9 mm?

[@josephb456]

Never mind! Just got to the end of the video, and he confirmed my suspicions.

[@mikedambeck7136]

Love the .357 Sig in my P229! I use the Speer Gold Dots. Plenty of options online. Cost is a little higher but not by much if you shop around.

[@joneifer8070]

Also reloading 40 S&W is easier and case life is longer. This allows for more uses of the brass and much less time spent on case prep. Sig 357 does have cheeper bullet options available when lockdowns don't have everything discombobulated. Hard to find 9mm bullets right now. Even harder to find brass.

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

.357 SIG really shines when it has a lightweight bullet. FAR higher velocity, and far less recoil per foot/pound of energy. If you double a bullet's speed, you QUADRUPLE it's energy while doubling it's recoil. If you double it's weight, you only double the energy, while doubling the recoil! The recoil can be measured as WEIGHT x VELOCITY. Energy is WEIGHT x (VELOCITY x VELOCITY) (Better known as [p=mv] and [KE=mv^2]

[@mikesideburns9791]

And yet none of that matters in a practical sense. The .40 S&W and .357 SIG have the same case and powder and they essentially have the same performance. The .40 S&W chooses a heavier bullet to opt for deeper penetration and more weight and the .357 SIG has lighter weight for slightly more terminal expansion.

[@vartkez187]

Yes but that's assuming the bullet stops on or inside the target. Otherwise if it passes through its just wasted energy and a liability.

[@paulscountry456]

Inverse square law

[@johnganshow5536]

I'd rather have the heavier slower bullet ( quality construction ) for Black bear penetration...

[@reallyrightpersonafycta4007]

Vartkez K. All liability is on the aggressor. He whom starts it, owns it. ALL. Collateral or otherwise. Morally true, and that's all that counts when yout life is at stake. The aggressor is at fault, ALL. NOT the accosted individual. NO Matter what the blue line losers tell folks.

[@snappycattimesten]

2023: those $2 cinder blocks are now $5 cinder blocks.

[@theunknownatheist3815]

Thanks, Biden. 😢

[@davidmcdonald4771]

Just bought a SW 40. Been told that I wasted my money... Funny that I haven't even fired it yet. However I have fired a SW 40 a friend has. That's why I bought a SW 40. I don't like 357. I like slower rounds. My preference.

[@edstar1972]

Please please compare the .357 sig to the .357 magnum!

[@wallyyfm]

Wait wait. You’re deer hunting with a .45? Well then. Ok.

[@scty2hty2]

Underwood is the best ammo I’ve seen for the 357 sig ... it’s extremely high velocity and amazing penetration 1700 FPS and 578 ft lbs SKU # 812

[@backwoodsschooling8129]

Underwood has a 65 grain loading getting pushed along a 2,100 FPS with 636 ft lbs of energy.

[@chrisnorris9473]

40isoneofbest

[@atleastimtrying5391]

What are you trying to penetrate?

[@davsny5]

Personally, I would have used my Sig Sauer P229 for a comparison and just swapped out the .40 S&W barrel for the .357 Sig barrel and you would have one gun worth 1 million Glocks in comparison, but nevertheless, nice video.

[@liberty9348]

Great video and data as always. I had a .357 sig glock and a .40 H & K USP. I don't own either anymore as I've moved on to more utilitarian firearms. I really liked shooting the USP... noticeably accurate for my skill level and rapidly back on center after each shot. I didn't like the glock at all... it's jumpy and was uncomfortable in my hand and while shooting. The USP grips feel awesome, but they'll shred your hands pretty quick... so gloves are recommended lol. I have a .357 magnum that I open carry on the property and I conceal carry a 9mm... they just work better for me.

[@MormonMustang_]

Yes sir, Bullet placement and confidence with the firearm you carry is more important than caliber.

[@user-xk5so7wb2t]

6:20 Bullet Placement can/will Change amount of shots needed to destroy block.

[@michaelbezos2969]

I feel I have my own personal firearm educator AND instructor. Thank you Paul for all the work you put into your instructional videos. Your #1

[@dannylandrum7899]

If Paul Harrell is running late, time slows down. It knows better.

[@badplus0176]

Danny Landrum 🤣

[@Peakfreud]

This man can articulately, eloquently & thoroughly compare and break down anything . I would trust him to compare G.F's for potential wives. Paul: This one washes dishes, but if you notice she only washes her own Paul: On the other hand G.F #2 uses the dish washer and does everyone's Paul: So what does the number tell us, here we have a sink full of dishes lets see what happens and confirm the results 😂

[@1789000]

a very important feature of the .357 sig round most overlook is that when the round feeds there's little if any contact with the feed ramp- you're shoving a 9mm projectile into a .40 size chamber--- when you lock the slide back on a loaded mag- look at where the projectile is pointed- into the center of the chamber....whereas 9mm, .40 , .45- all go up the feed ramp...i've been shooting mine for years and have yet to get one ftf/fte....

[@sethtenrec6476]

nice point!

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

Damn... I didn't even think of the improved feed. Cheers!🍻

[@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043]

357 sig is known as one of the most un reliable feeding of all bullets idiot

[@Arman-jx7hu]

@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 prove it

[@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043]

Arman75 u prove it

[@Brett.1984]

You know the lighter .40 rounds are awesome like 135g or 155g that's what I would use with the .40 don't really like the 180g now for 10mm the 180 is ok but not for .40. I don't think the 40 gets enough credit its def. a hard hitting round I like it a lot.

[@flipgunderson1946]

I agree that lighter .40 rounds are better. At the moment i'm really into 165gr just because it's easier to find here than other .40 light-for-caliber loadings. 40 really shines in lighter loadings. Notably heavier than the heaviest 9mm loadings while still getting over 1000 fps. Hell, I even like Underwood's lighter 10mm.

[@spookypunky]

@@flipgunderson1946 yup. 165's are the sweet spot

[@chipsterb4946]

.357 Sig also is more challenging to handload. The case neck is very short. The case typically is full of powder and you need to careful of compressed loads. Both of those together mean that you have to be very diligent about preventing bullet setback in the magazine. The ballistics are excellent. The bottle necked case feeds very reliably. On the other hand, it is a LOUD cartridge. The only time I developed a bad flinch was when I first started shooting .357 Sig. I worked through it, but it is a potential issue.

[@PeterParker-hw5rv]

2022 and a lot has changed now I use 147 grain hornady xtp loaded by Underwood. They are cooking at 1450fps. Love my 357sig

[@brucebelitz3451]

If .357 sig. Is a 9mm magnum, wouldn't that make .40S&W the 10mm special?

[@AjackLee4]

Please test out 165 grain .40S&W. It's the perfect load. The 135, 150 and 155grn rounds are often quite good as well, the 180 leaves much to be desired.

[@khaccanhle1930]

Yes, 150-165 is a much better load for 40. 180 leaves too little space for powder, it's really a weight for a 10mm.

[@aliman3229]

Agreed. I own both a G22 in 40 and a G32 in 357 Sig. Best rounds for the 40 are Winchester Bonded/PDX1 165 gr, almost as good as the Winchester bonded/PDX1 125 gr 357

[@berettaxd7566]

155 and 165 are best loads. 135 is also a good weight for .40. Tons of power.

[@sawtoothmunitions7307]

“I’m what you call a professional” I love it. It looks like your having a lot of shooting stuff.

[@matthewhartup941]

XD .40 service model, by my bedside right now. Very accurate, extremely reliable and powerful enough. Loaded with winchester white box 180 grain jhp's.

[@kgmail7364]

Interesting story on the origination of the .40 cal. After the historic FBI Miami shootout, the .38 and 9mm were found to lack penetration to the vital organs. The result was the .40 cal. I’d opt for the .357 Sig.

[@josephshaff5194]

I'll request a Sassquatch defense video ? lol. Sorry. People keep talking about it! And I want to go look for gold. Now they got me thinking about it. lol. Now somebodys gonna play a joke on me ! While I'm digging away.

[@richardsnyder9767]

I wonder about the difference in accuracy you had between the two. I have personally found the 357Sig to be more accurate.

[@cliffordc9497]

Fleece bullet back stop lmao good work man keep it up! I've been going back and forth on switching to 357sig as my carry cartridge I'm currently carrying a 40 so this vid is pretty relevant to my current debate. Again keep up the good work also good work on the 86 fbi Miami shooting. P.s. Semper Fi!

[@timothymarquez3275]

Clifford C I have a glock 32 in 357 and love it. The 357 is a great round. Recoil is in my opinion about the same as a 40. Maybe a little less. Either caliber you choose you may want to look into underwood ammo. They have great prices for the products they produce

[@cliffordc9497]

Yeah! They do make some good stuff I picked up some of their Xtreme penetrator rounds haven't done any testing on them yet but from the reviews they seem pretty damn legit

[@jamiesloan5902]

Clifford C He always refers to it as "high tech" fleece bullet stop. lol. Love this guy...

[@gadsdenjim8785]

Those guns are absolutely identical in every way, part for part minus the barrel. I swap a G22 barrel in My G31 all the time. Its the only cartridge conversion condoned by Glock because they are the same pistols with differnt chambered barrels.

[@cliffordc9497]

Gadsden Jim I've got a 23 and thought about doing that but have decided on buying a dedicated 31 in the case that I actually and have to go to court because my firearm was "modified". That and I'm pretty damn sure it will be uncomfortably snappy in a compact frame. But I'll never know unless I try it.

[@silentbob267]

If I remember correctly in a video Hickock 45 did about this he said he had some issues with the magazines feeding properly going from one round to the other but not the other way around. May have only been a problem with early magazines though. You might look up his video if you are planning to try it.

[@cliffordc9497]

Craig Arnold I've heard similar things from other people. Thanks I'll have to look it up.

[@gadsdenjim8785]

Craig Arnold Yeah, it's only older 40 mags have a issue with 357 because the follower. All newer 40 mags have the same follower as 357 mags and work fine. I personaly just use ALL 357 mags myself. Also results may vary with trying to use 357 sig in the glock "22 round" 40 mags, I've found in mine once loaded past 16-17 rounds with 357 they tend to bind. I think it's do to the bottle necked cartridge in the longer strait mag, the rounds get to a point and want to curve (just like rifle rounds) so they bind in the strait tube after so many rounds (that's my conclusion I've came up with).

[@Ok-551]

From what I’ve read, gen 3’s are identical, and gen 4’s made before 2012 use the same ejector. G22 Mags marked with a 9 on the follower are good to go.

[@brianbrown7821]

I think instead of naming it .357 Sig--if they had named it 9mm magnum, it might have more success. Just my a thoughts. 357man1

[@D-A-1776]

Love both rounds wish .357 SIG was more available and had more guns in that caliber

[@A1musictube]

"Technically they're bottles, but I like to say 'jugs'." - Paul

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

This has to be the BEST cartridge comparison ive ever seen! Fair, scientific, thorough, it has it all!

[@Redsaber98]

Rip Paul this is one of my fav videos

[@mrhamburger6936]

357 Sig you better pick up some reloading dies and some equipment if you could find primers and the powder

[@chrisgodfrey2846]

Love how Paul still is original with how he does his videos. Doesn’t change things up as he becomes more popular as a guntuber

[@Peace-ju9us]

Have you considered comparing 45 ACP vs 45 GAP?

[@keithgraham9547]

So the .357 Sig really should be correctly named the "9mm Magnum."

[@PerceptionVsReality333]

Or 355magnum.

[@johncar429]

9x25 Dillon. That round is cooking.

[@brucebelitz3451]

So the .40S&W is 10mm special?

[@adamcard9773]

+1 .357sig is 9mm +p+ [and maybe a little more] in a gun DESIGNED for that sort of power.

[@JettBlast]

@@brucebelitz3451 or .40 S&W long

[@greggwoods7173]

Be interested to see 357 sig vs 10mm... Another good video.

[@dang3]

I agree

[@Atombender]

The 10mm would destroy any .357 SIG. Besides, it's an apple-orange comparison. The .40 is to the .357 SIG what the 10mm is to the 9x25 Dillon.

[@zac4775]

white name one thing it can do better

[@Atombender]

@MTrefiner Half the mass? Uh not really. 125 gr vs 180 gr. And the 9x25 is much faster.

[@randomdude7501]

@digital1911 Hate to correct you, but 10mm>>>>357 sig

[@717Chris]

The 357 sig ammo he is using is watered down. Try underwood double tab buffalo bore the margins will separate.

[@ACamaroGuy]

I'll never figure out why the .357 Sig never took off. It should've replaced the 9mm & the .40 Cal

[@Armored_Muskrat]

Name, possibly? Someone here suggested "9mm magnum" -- that does sound more flashy.

[@DaveCraineAccidentalAquarist]

This makes me want a .357 Sig conversion barrel for my G27 🤔🤔🤔💥💥

[@madmax36640]

Me too!!!

[@jonathananatrella2964]

This is a good video Paul. As someone who carries 357 Sig: I have my own experiences, the 357 Sig owners I've spoken to when I worked at a gun range (take with a grain of salt of course), and the data I've seen. Let me explain the pros and cons to people who may find pages of ballistics data to be a bit overwhelming. Pros: 357 Sig is very cost effective firearm wise. You can buy a police trade in .40 S&W pistol for cheap, swap out the barrel, and have your gun. (I did that with my P226). Additionally, it's much easier to train yourself to go between 9mm and 357 Sig than it is to go between 9mm and .40 S&W. The increased velocity of the 357 Sig helps the hollow points more reliably expand and makes it a much more flat shooting caliber than 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP. 357 Sig is also standard issue caliber for highway patrols in most states and Secret Service, so if you carry the same ammo as they do (usually Speer Gold Dot) it will be looked at with a less jaundice eye in court. Cons: Ammo cost itself is going to be a bit higher and you usually have to order online to get any of the premium hyperammunition. Because the caliber is necked down, it has a much higher PSI. What this means is if you convert a .40 S&W over you want a reputable make that's going to live up to SAAMI specs (Glock, Sig, CZ, etc). Because the 357 Sig is flying at a much higher velocity, which pistol calibers aren't really made for, you have to be more selective in your ammo choice. IME and from the data I've seen, that's pretty much only going to be 125gr weight projectiles. Anything under that tends to break apart or otherwise have issues with penetration. (The projectile breaking apart is very good for a rifle caliber, mind you. Not pistol calibers though.) So, is 357 Sig the right choice for you? I would honestly recommend it for just a few circumstances. First and foremost: If you spend a lot of time in your car. I used to deliver pizzas so shooting through auto glass would be a concern for me. 357 Sig goes in a straight line through it. Secondly, if you live in a very cold area where people are constantly wearing more and heavier clothing, especially during winter time, the 357 Sig's velocity can be very helpful for defeating that. You can also conceal a bigger 357 Sig pistol more easily. Lastly, you work in some type of private security or escort where you have a VIP that must be escorted from vehicles and through buildings. Generally speaking though, 9mm is the best caliber for new shooters. There's a 9mm handgun out there for anyone, everyone can handle a 9mm, and you can find ammo everywhere. (Ain't called wonder 9 for nothing.)

[@shawnbeck2303]

I agree! My friend and I bought Sig 239's. I bought mine 1 year ahead of his. Mine was a 9 mm his a Sig .357. My 239 9mm had a stamped slide his a CNC for the .357. We got together to test the difference. The .357 was far superior to my 9 mm. Wish I would have waited to get The. 357 Sig! Sold my 239 9mm. I got the XDS sub compact in 9mm sold it too.. Then bought the Lc9s 9mm pro wish it came out in the .357 Sig Still remember the 239 in .357. Wow what a gun! Shawn

[@zagorith14]

@Jonathan Anatrella That's some good information there, my brother. I'm doing research at the moment, looking for a firearm and caliber for police academy which I'm hoping to start in a few months. The caliber options were basically anything between 9mm and .45 ACP. I wanted something that would be an effective firearm with a little more power than the 9mm but wasn't something like the .45 as I already have a .45 pistol that I'm not going to be using as it isn't from a company authorized to be used by the police in my area (the company is CZ). I remember seeing the .357 Sig years ago but didn't really know much about it. Looking at what Paul and yourself have mentioned, I'm thinking the the Glock 31 or 32 chambered in .357 Sig is going to be the way I go. I'm a larger person, not fat large, so I can handle the calibers that are snappier like the .40 S&W, .357 Sig, 10mm, and so on with relative ease. So thank you for this info. Very useful. Much appreciated.

[@jasonallman696]

@@zagorith14 I would say .40. 10mm is expensive and uncommon(might be an issue in court). Also, .357 SIG runs at a higher pressure and is harder on guns than .40........

[@mikefay9131]

An excellent video Paul. I actually wonder if there is a perfect ammo for self defense. Each individual has different living situations. Homes,farms,woods,city dwellers. But these videos certainly do give us all solid facts, and the rest is up to us. Thanks for the time and work u put into these videos. I'm a big fan.

[@Swampytheroot]

I picked up 5 cases of 125gr Gold Dot 357 recently for 40% less than 180gr 40 could be found. My Gen2 Glock31 is set for Season 26 in our adventures together. Nice to have my old friend riding along again. P229 Elite for times I need something a bit more discreet. Honestly though, these are both fabulous for what they are. Both beat the hell out of 'come lately mega whatever 9mm fodder' Nice presentation

[@The_Conspiracy_Analyst]

7:03 So THAT'S why the range's picnic table was all sticky when I sat down to eat my sandwich that day

[@lockman004]

My Glock G22 loaded with .40 cal. work fine for me especially with the crazy price of ammo, but to cover my bases I purchased two conversion barrels for .357 Sig and 9 mm for my G22. The Glock .40 cal. magazines work fine for both the .357 Sig and 9 mm as well. Now if the SHTF I can use three of the most popular handgun calibers with one small shooting kit. Simple, flexible, efficient, and inexpensive.

[@chaimafaghet7343]

357 followers work fine with .40. The .40 followers don't work so well with 357. Fine for range use but I wouldn't trust them for anything serious.

[@bloopy6166]

357 sig is one of the most popular handgun cartridges? What lol

[@jeffh2125]

Yep, me too. But my original Gen 2 mags get ftf for 9mm. New mags including 22 rd (for 40) work for the 9mm too.