Personal Protection: .38 Super Auto vs .357 Sig

[@beargillium2369]

I love it when I find a Paul Harrell video I haven't seen yet! Unfortunately I usually realize I have seen it .. just forgot to give it a 👍 ..so I watch it again, and give it a 👍 and a comment. Thank you Paul.

[@roryhertzog5282]

I used this video today to educate an "expert" on 38 super +P at a steel target shoot. You are alot more convincing than Wikipedia and I didn't want to see his lips move when he read it. Thank you.

[@104thDIVTimberwolf]

"Remington never heard of me..." I'll bet they have now.

[@ratagris21]

Same for Sig Sauer.

[@calebh7902]

May he rest in peace

[@jwdundon]

​@@calebh7902may we continue to learn from him. -- I am interested in the 40 super, brought me to the 38 super... And Paul is a 38 super fan... WHY? (SO, HERE I AM).

[@StephenPoor]

​@@calebh7902 rest in professional.

[@GunSam]

I love Paul's videos because he does not trend with everyone else and compare nothing but new cartridges and firearms. He compares classics and modern of both back to back, which really brings up the nostalgia at the same time showing that classic is still as good as modern!

[@Stevarooni]

Yep If you inherit your grandpa's .38 Special snub nose you know you can find out how good it is from Paul's videos, but can also see .357 Sig.

[@MrBonebus]

makes my collection feel relevant lol

[@dugroz]

1:14 -- "Well, I don't have a Glock (or a Colt) in 9mm." -- Several people faint.

[@MrSGL21]

i own 3 glocks. none in 9mm. infact, while i have owned more glocks than any other brand,other than smith and wesson and i've owned more 9mms than any other caliber, the majority of the glocks were not 9mm. infact just 2, a 17 and a 19 neither of which i own now. i've owned a 17, 19, 20,22,36,37 and 39.

[@taggartlawfirm]

dugroz friends don’t let friends carry 9mm para. 😎

[@MrSGL21]

@@taggartlawfirm ok boomer.

[@dobypilgrim6160]

@GYPSY KING FURY How many gunfights has he been in? Answer: He watched a lot of KZbin videos.

[@ratagris21]

Forget the salt tablets, bring the gun powder tablets, or brown brown as back up.

[@kamelionify]

Rain or snow, light or dark, Paul Harrell educates and entertains.

[@domesticatedwolverine4152]

I think I found my new ballistics expert. No bull, no politics, just straight answers. Cool vids!

[@tig3r_lily]

Hey Paul fellow Marine here and patreon supporter just wanted to let you know that I really appreciate all the content and all your videos are really well made man thank you for this stuff.

[@PaulHarrell]

Thanks. New video out next week.

[@georgejohnsmith]

+Paul Harrell. How is the fellow in the hospital doing?

[@chouyi007]

Ammunition availability must vary wildly by area across the country; here in Virginia .357 Sig is pretty easy to find, as our State Police use it, whereas the .38 Super shows up about as often as 7mm Mauser! Badass video as always, by the way!

[@RivalsCartel]

My local store here in Western Pennsylvania has it in stock

[@brianc9374]

Yes!!! Finally a .38 Super video. Thank you Paul 😊

[@crazyirishmedic9535]

I took a deer with underwoods loading of the 147 grain XTP 357 sig from my p250c at about 5 yards. It was stuck in a fence and the poor thing had pretty much torn its leg off so it was the only humane thing to do. Regardless it was fast and humane, I would see no issue with using the same round to hunt a deer with if one was hunting with a handgun. (Note, meat was not wasted it was processed and then donated to a local homeless shelter)

[@silvereagle90000]

Where was it shot?

[@scottstewart5784]

upstate new york

[@SINESTERSERPENTSIXXX]

i too have taken a deer at 50 yrd with a beretta 92f compact hit in the spine just below the tip of the ear animal was killed on the spot and never ran. like taking a broom and sweeping the legs out from under it. i have also hit a deer with a 300 weatherby mag the damn thing too of like a shot with a single leg near blown off and the opposing short completely destroyed. and yet it was able to run over 150yrds befor laying to die finally. goes to show power without good shot placement means very lil.

[@LibertyPrime1982]

Good man

[@goodtimeshere97]

Thank you for posting the .38 super vs .357 Sig video Paul.

[@garyalensr]

I can't figure out how you only have 85 thousand subs, You sir deserve a shit ton more subs. Your videos are more educational than half of the vids on KZbin. Keep up the great work Paul.

[@georgejohnsmith]

+Gary Allen. You have just called his videos mediocre. It is an insult.

[@BallisticStigmata]

Seems he did well in one year. At time of this (my) comment he has 351k.

[@dakotrondakota9084]

@@BallisticStigmata yo 398k now

[@andrewg.3434]

718K now 4.16.22

[@jwdundon]

2024.... Out with a bang and 1 million subs. (I was one of the first 100k). Man I miss Paul, BUT, I have pop tarts more often now. (Especially at deer and elk camp)!

[@masterof1]

There's a good idea for a t-shirt. "Lets ask the meat target."

[@darthkek1953]

Let's go crunch the numbers. We're at the range today so please ignore any gunfire you might hear. Seems okay to me. To answer that we have to back to the 1800s. You be the judge. Where it hit a rib SHATTERED it. (Also available in PULVERIZED).

[@bktkutistaja2805]

Don't try this at home. I'm what you'd call a professional.

[@chrischiampo8106]

Could not Agree More

[@masterof1]

Have a picture of pork chops on the front saying "pork chop pectoral" and on the back "high tech fleece bullet stop." Put that on a fleece range coat and you would sale a lot I'm sure.

[@chrischiampo8106]

Thatoneguy overthere That is Genius I Totally Agree 🥩🥩🥩😎👍🏼

[@donhoggard604]

My late father loved the .38 super from a 1911! He was a 1911 guy anyway, but as he put it ".38 super is a specialist's round" hits harder than 9mm recoil compares to .45acp, an extra round in the mag, etc.. It's good to see someone comparing it to its competition, and for a 90 year old cartridge, it still packs a whollop.

[@avrail5seven793]

@LordWhis Buffalo Bore has some pretty hot 38 super ammo.

[@gutadin5]

Don Hoggard they said 40 has more recoil than 38 super

[@marblemarble7113]

@StringerNews1 imo if you've got a 1911 just get it in .45

[@danphariss133]

@StringerNews1 The old late 1930s loading was 130 gr at 1300. It was developed in the 1930s because the 45 ACP was not great at penetrating car bodies. And all the bad guys were driving cars. Many lawmen carried including some Texas Rangers. But in later years its been loaded down since its the same case as the 38 ACP and the early Browning autos in 38 ACP were too weak for 130 gr at 1300. The newer chambers head space off the case mouth and are more accurate than the early guns. A TRUE 38 Super +P would move a 124 gr over 1350 as it will do with ease. Instead the factory stuff is about 1150-1200. Was popular for a time in competition because it would make major power factor with less recoil than the 45 ACP. At 50 yards its a one shot stopper on a four legged Coyote with a shoulder shot. With Starline brass it will exceed 357 sig easily with no pressure signs or bulged brass. The velocity makes it an effective 100 yard load or even a little farther. There were even Thompson SMGs made in Super.

[@paulfuelling6829]

Hey Paul, did you ever find my Luis Vitonne leather jacket that I forgot and left at your place the last time I visited? With the price of fuel, I don't know the next time I will get out West to pick it up. If you need to wear or use it, fine, but for sentimental reasons I will try to get by sometime to pick it up. Thanks, very informative and helpful comparison.

[@Sedan57Chevy]

Few things get me as excited as a new Paul Harrell video!

[@johnd4348]

I pee all over myself when Paul comes out with a new video.

[@monkeyabattoir8501]

I like his videos cause he tells it how it is. no boosheet!

[@CheifDegenerate]

"new and improved high tech fleece bullet stop" Love it..... Love everything about it.

[@CB-68-westcreations]

Anyone else notice the very minimal muzzle flip? Thats just "some" evidence of how many rounds this man has sent down range. Ill take his advice over most others on KZbin.

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

Yes sir, specially with the .357 Sig Glock 31, oh and let's not forget he put about 20 rounds through a Chrony while being 7 meters away or so and not only the Chrony didn't even flinch (haha!), but also, he was able to read those results from that distance, too! This fine gent certainly gathers most if not all of the important qualities I'd want to see in a gun instructor.

[@Turtletanks]

What’s muzzle flip?

[@ILLUMINATION313EVO]

Lol muzzle 'flip"

[@ferna2294]

+Chef Boyardank Muzzle = the tip of the barrel (where the bullet comes out) Flip = the upwards movement of the gun when the bullet is fired.

[@ILLUMINATION313EVO]

ferna2294 yeah..... We know. The term "flip for me means a full turn. How could flip be even close to not even a 40 degree angel in which the gun recoils. Please tell me how the guns vertical recoil has anything to do with a "flip" is your gun doing a back flip? Do you say I flipped my car when it raises off the ground if you have excess horsepower to lift the front tires of the ground? When you flip a coin do you just raise it to a angel higher of its original position? No. There is no "flip" involved. Correct or not it just sounds ignorant. Let me just flip my gun. Think about it. Either way I wont ever say flip.

[@Satchmoeddie]

Breakfast at Paul Harrel's: "Are those pits in my orange juice?" "No, just bullet fragments, leather, and pork bits."

[@eriklorentzen6510]

Best no BS informative caliber war videos on KZbin. Love your historical knowledge, standardized testing, and unbiased assessment of results. Personal to me, I've been debating my work carry .357 SIG pistol for carry, but have stuck to my commander 1911 in .45 due to fears of over penetration. So this was a real eye opener for me. Side note, Sig Sauer makes 1911's chambered in .357 SIG in commander and full size.

[@tubewatcher5012]

I got a .357 sig Forest Lake match grade conversion barrel for my .40 Glock G22 one Christmas from my father-in-law. Even with the difference in expense for ammo, I'll never go back to .40. The difference in accuracy is night and day and it just fees so much more satisfying when firing the .357 sig.

[@stormshot119]

Nothing better than watching one of Paul Harrell's videos at midnight

[@A.Clifton]

Jeremiah Garza Seconded.

[@chrischiampo8106]

Could not agree more

[@Stigstigster]

I got this one for breakfast before work which is also nice.

[@toddy2519]

I'll third that!

[@bktkutistaja2805]

First thing in the morning. Well early noon but i have a day off from work.

[@andrewwaterman9240]

Thanks, Paul! Another interesting video. I would have thought the 38 Super would perform better than it did, but that's why your videos are so educational. The Sig-Sauer ammunition was very impressive.

[@markfletcher8084]

I love the .38 Super, I have a Colt 1911 Government, Taurus PT 38, and EAA Witness. I think it is a great self-defense round. I wish Glock would do a .38 Super. Keep up the good work. Great presentation, I love your work and style. But I do wish you would wear eye protection all the time while shooting, it sets a good example to younger shooters.

[@earthdog1961]

You're awesome! Down to earth reviews and logical reviews. So glad you didn't get screwed on that ...thing. I'm an NRA pistol/shotgun/home-defense instructor (with 30 years as Navy Spec-Ops), and I "unofficially" recommended your channel to all my students. Your info is as good as gold. :-)

[@flightparamedic505]

Excellent video. This really answered some questions I had about .357 sig. without a doubt the best channel on KZbin. Thanks Paul for all that you do for the firearms community. Outstanding !!

[@levergatnation8959]

This is easily one of my favorite videos that Paul has done. Is it weird that I've watched it like 4 or 5 times

[@tylerleavitt2715]

Happened to me too- face it: It’s time to look at 1911s in .38 Super. 😎

[@joogullae3456]

dude ive rewatched all his 357sig videos at least 3 times each

[@robertgiggie6366]

thank you so much for using the sig sauer hollowpoints, I picked up some of them for my 9 mm carry gun (that's what the store had) and am very pleased to see the kind of performance that they gave you in the meat target.

[@midnightAlchemistOfficial]

As always, Paul delivers in all ways with a very concise and informative knowledge. Paul, Two thumbs up! I have been watching your videos for 8 months now and had to go through your play lists to garner even more information. I have just become a Patreon supporter, as I feel what you offer needs to be supported. Thank you Paul and to the many subscribers you have that also divulge enormous amounts of information in the comment sections of each video. I feel like a "Pavlovian dog" every time I see a new video from you. I got to watch! ;) Thank you alll!

[@davidharris5795]

Videos like this are essential for "old fogies" like me to stay current with new developments. .357 Sig "approaches" the .357 magnum performance levels, using a bottle neck case. I had no idea that it was so much more powerful than the 38 Super. Thanks for all the work on this Paul, we really appreciate it.

[@ActualHumanPerson]

Remington better start sending you ammo. If they know what's good for them. Dun duuun duuuuuuuun dramatic reverb! Straight to the point, informative and sometimes amusing videos.

[@762gunr]

More like .357 vs 9X25 Dillon. .357 vs 357 SIG would be no contest.

[@JustAGuy85]

I'd imagine it's hard to get a company to send you free ammo without any strings attached.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

It's best that he doesn't accept any freebies. That would cause many to question his integrity. Unfortunately, among the You Tube audience it seems most people can't accept that if you accept anything from anyone you can still speak your honest opinion of their products, or their competitions products. It's very unfortunate but true. So long as he isn't being gifted anything, other than from a viewer, nobody can really question his integrity with any integrity of their own.

[@roykiefer7713]

Paul, thank you VERY much for this EXCELLENT video. I was one of the guys who asked for a .38 Super - .357 Sig comparison, and your demonstrated analysis really answers my questions and provides precisely the information I was hoping to see. So, again, I thank you. Please permit me to offer two comments: 1. If you believe the marketing folks at Remington’s ammunition division have never heard of you, well, I believe you’re modest but incorrect. Your credibility, expertise, and honesty are clear as well as INFLUENTIAL (for example, the reason my H&K USP Tactical, which is about a foot from this laptop, is loaded with “old fashion” 230 grain, .45 ACP Golden Sabers is Paul Harrell). 2. I was impressed with the velocity differential - substantially favoring the .357 Sig - which you documented. It seems potentially noteworthy that the Glock’s barrel is somewhat shorter than either the 1911’s or the Beretta’s. Of course, that would likely mean - with equal barrel lengths - the comparison would favor the .357 Sig even more (as you noted in your summary remarks).

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

Would be interested in seeing a comparison between .357 Sig and the .357 Magnum, just for fun.

[@JohnLloydScharf]

Now those two are very close in powder capacity and chamber pressure and both seem to out perform other pistols in self-defense.

[@toddy2519]

Chamber pressure for the .357 magnum is 35,000 PS___ 357 Sig is 40,000 PSI..they are not anywhere close!

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

toddy2519 Maximum chamber pressure doesn't mean all that much. .357 Sig has a Max pressure higher than a 10mm (35, 500 I believe), but the 10 is generally a more potent round. Max pressure just relates to the thickness of brass on the casing.

[@toddy2519]

" Max pressure just relates to the thickness of brass on the casing." Brass thickness has nothing to do with chamber pressures. Chamber pressure is established by SAAMI as the maximum average safe operating pressure before a possible chamber failure. Consider the .357 magnum at 35,000 psi which is the same as for 9mm Parabellum. The .25 Auto has a SAAMI pressure of 25,000 psi. Chamber pressure means a lot and 5,000 psi difference is very meaningful! If you are a reloader, please be sure and let me know ahead of time before you head for the range, as I don't want to be there when you are!

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

toddy2519 So by your estimation the .357 Sig is a more powerful round than the 50 AE (36,000 psi)? That is a hell of a round then if it's out pacing a Desert Eagle.

[@downhilldaddy9346]

Never thought anyone would argue about the ammunition you use. I’m here for the reviews and research you do for us. Love the content

[@Zundfolge]

.38 Super suffers from the same problem as 10mm ... its an awesome caliber if you hand load, but 90%+ of factory loaded ammo in those calibers is severely under-loaded.

[@galen1183]

Zundfolge Sig Sauer's Elite Performance ammo is pretty good, but, imho, Underwood Ammo's 10mm ammo is top of the line in both performance and price.

[@davidcalderwood1]

If you want the 38 Super updated to modern specs, try the 9x23 Winchester. Similar in size, the 9x23's SAAMI average pressure is 55,000 psi, same as the 223 Remington rifle cartridge. The 9x23 delivers the 357 mag performance in a straight walled case.

[@PARR53]

You are correct. There are a couple manufacturers that put out decent loads up to .38 Super potential or At least close. It can and does keep up with the .357 Sig given the right ammunition

[@BillMcGirr]

Of course the same can be said of the 357 sig. Underwoods loadings are more in line with intended velocity and energy. But I have to admit I was pleasantly surprised with the Remington loading for 357 sig here. I didn’t think it would be as hot as it was.👍

[@demetrioshristovski4518]

@@davidcalderwood1 Movie really should be a comparison of .357 Sig and 9x23 Win. The cartridges seem to go hand in hand in performance, age, and velocity, and available bullet weights.

[@robertriggs4704]

You are still 1 of the very best on the internet. You need a full line of " let's ask the meat target" items. Bumper stickers, shirts, hats, range targets. Etc.... Great video as always

[@hssportsinmichigan]

I enjoy, you videos more then most. No swearing and professionally laid out..nice work

[@Mike-wh9dq]

Mr.Harrell, Your work is much appreciated and at the top of many viewers list! I know this because I see your name being referenced within different video's comment section. You are respected by the viewing community. Thank you Sir! Now, I have searched the world over for true love :) looking for a real world comparison of the .357 SIG vs .45 ACP and come across every possible combination but this one. So, as a humble viewer who is very seriously considering moving from .45 ACP to .357SIG for carry, I would respectfully ask and appreciate at least one of your comprehensive, thorough and real world test comparisons i.e. meat test, between these two calibers. You are the only reviewer that I have come across that actually 'matches' ammunition to be as close to equal as possible and you clearly to us exactly what you are shooting along with your providing data in chart form for us to comprehend. Thank you again for all of your work!

[@Mmyers1177]

Mike If you are the type of person who doesn’t put cost or price before your life and family safety the .357 Sig is a really great choice for self preservation.

[@theeasternfront6436]

Paul I like your videos so much I've decided to finally get off my butt and sign up for a parteon account so I can help keep your videos going. Thanks for the great videos.

[@Belano1911]

I can only repeat what other people have said : this is the the best channel on KZbin re firearms topics. You research topics that everyone wants answers to, in a clear and concise way, and without any B. S.!

[@chrischiampo8106]

It’s 2:00am And The Best Firearm Channel On KZbin Paul Harrell Uploaded a Video!!! I can’t Go To Sleep Yet!!! 😀😀😀 It’s The Video I’ve Been Waiting For. An Early Christmas Present Thank You Paul.Really Significant Damage To The Meat 🥩🥩🥩🥩 Targets. I’m Impressed by Both The .357Sig n 38 Super Like You Paul I like the 1911 Platform..I Really Like the Very Thorough And Detail Explanations Of The Cartridges And the History or Them Thank You Keep Up the Astounding Videos Your The Best. 😎😀😃👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@thatguy22441]

I couldn't sleep, either. It must have been a disturbance in the force. That sometimes happens when another Paul Harrell video gets uploaded sometimes.

[@LTVoyager]

Chris Chiampo Something is wrong with your keyboard. It is capitalizing every word. Very strange.

[@EBB47]

i was watching at 2 am also!

[@jdessell]

Holy Book Title Punctuation Batman !!!!

[@raskolnikovsghost2701]

I Think It's Probably His Phone Doing It Because If It Was Keyboard You'd Have To Toggle Shift With Each Word, whereas phones have an auto capitalize feature that works at the beginning of sentences. It's kind of hard to do with a keyboard. But he may be older, not all of us are young computer enthusiasts. Maybe he's spacing twice or something on his phone and it's thinking each word is a new sentence. I see this a lot and its just my thoughts on it. Now, for the part you won't like. I don't think Paul is as big a fan of the 1911 as you may think. He's been pretty critical of it and explained that for about 98% of us, there's no reason to have a 1911 when you can get much better capacity in 9mm or .40 S&W. I like the 1911, don't get me wrong. It's the original American auto loading classic. It was the standard of firearms for many a year. But I think today, in most cases, you'd be better off carrying something else. However, 1911 has a huge fanbase of collectors and shooters. And they are also used very often in competitions. So obviously I'd never say it's terrible, it's not. But I remember Paul talking about 9mm being better for most people to carry, which is true, unless you're a comp shooter carrying a regular caliber space gun with upgrades the equivalent of the original purchase price. I'm a .40 S&W G23 with the 24 round mag kind of guy. I carry 24+1 and then two other regular sized mags, one in the console of my vehicle, one in my inside jacket pocket.

[@TheBuckStopsHere480]

I appreciate Paul's unaffected and objective analysis. He gives pertinent, qualified information and doesn't let any personal preferences come into play in this vid. It is obvious that this man shoots a lot and well, and has studied and considered all aspects of what he's doing. Thanks for a great vid paul, and extra thanks for doing a vid that includes the .38 Super - a competent but often ignored round.

[@kunichuck]

To hell with work, I'm staying in and watching Paul this morning.

[@matthewdockter2424]

I hope you write a script, because if you're ad-libbing this stuff solo then you have an amazing ability to reach into the mind of the sceptic and smoothly address questions that will come up. You do a great job. Thanks!

[@chumccurry1765]

Best gun education channel. Always learned something.

[@dgilly6704]

How can anyone thumbs down a Paul Harrell video !?! Best channel on KZbin by far . Another great video!

[@thinman8621]

Very informative. Good performance cross section. Recoil and muzzle blast from the 357 Sig would be breathtaking if shot indoors.

[@galen1183]

Paul's thoroughness and clear presentation of results never fails to impress.

[@verfugbarkite]

Always have a hankering for a bbq after these uploads.

[@enlightenedjuan8332]

Paul answers the important questions with tests and experiments not just words but actions and numbers. Nice work keep it up.

[@bpri9880]

I had to use my pistol chambered in .357sig in a defensive situation and yeah it’s very effective. I’m surprised this round hasn’t caught on. It’s better than 9mm, more versatile than 10mm and .40.

[@grayrecluse7496]

Price price price.

[@sfreak451]

If you don't mind me asking, what were the effects?

[@permanenceaesthetic6545]

Mind expounding?

[@deanjroberts1970]

Love the way you review guns and ammo in a clear, calm manner. Just taken over Hicock45 as my favourite reviewer!

[@badazz99]

I have shot a deer with my glock 32 in 357 sig. I used underwood 125 grn bonded rounds and it is a devastating round. It blew the lung out of the entrance hole and it died very fast.

[@adambilge2834]

It's always impressive to see Paul shooting through the Crony. If that was me shooting that far away from the Crony I would be replacing 2 or 3 dozen of them every year.

[@rayburn8282]

Guaranteed I'd hit it on the first shot

[@CurmudgeonExtraordinaire]

But let's not forget that the .38 SUPER can be easily converted (on some firearms) to 9mm SuperCooper (sometimes called .38 SuperCooper). Using cut down .223 brass, it can get around 1750 fps with 125 gr bullets and 2000 fps with 90 gr bullets. "Guns & Ammo" -- December 1973, page 33

[@jeremymeline8129]

I love Paul He breaks everything down and goes slow so everyone can understand

[@mattbrown5511]

Another in depth and excellent video from the pinnacle of professionalism. Thank you addressing all of the salient points needed in this presentation. I enjoy the .357 Sig but the cost of ammunition is prohibitive to say the lest.

[@bear9115]

Just another real-world, common sense review with no-nonsense, dependable information . Paul, you should be crowned king of the FBI Ballistics Department! Thanks again, young man.

[@stevel7501]

I get my g31 barrel for my g22 on Thursday and I already have my Underwood ammo, now I'm excited to shoot some 357sig.

[@bradbowhunts]

steve lemieux I did this a few months back. I'm sure, as you now know, it was one of the best investments you ever made. Target ammo is pricey but I buy it online for .40/rd, on sale and in bulk. I'm saving my brass and have dies to one day reload. Every time I shoot the 357 Sig out of my G22, it puts a splitting grin on my face I can't wipe off all day. So much more felt power, accurate, makes your 40 suddenly feel like it took an NZT pill, right?

[@stevel7501]

Brad Erickson absolutely!

[@d-cat8198]

I thoroughly enjoy these videos. There is so much to consider when choosing a handgun and the ammunition for it. This channel is an invaluable resource to help sort through all of this to help make informed decisions. Oh yes, and the meat target is a welcome bonus. Cheers!

[@bobg1685]

Maybe it was only my own impression, but it seemed that the flash and evident recoil of the .38 super was more pronounced than that of the .357 Sig, even though the chrono numbers suggested it would be otherwise.

[@steviesevieria1868]

+Bob G ...I saw the extra flash on the 38 Super as well, seems like the signature of wasted gunpowder to me. Like a more minor version of what you get from a snub nose 357 Magnum: powerful blast, powerful recoil, but significantly reduced muzzle velocity.

[@loves2shoot]

was gonna add same comment. I"ve never been around much of the 38 supers, but every .357 sig I've seen shot indoors has a HUGE ball of flame and I often joke about being able to read by the light of it. So, I was anticipating it would be more than the 38 sup on this video and was surprised ..... now I need to see the 38 super indoors. I know there are a lot of variables, powder types being the obvious major types..... I had a bare barrel ar15 years ago and normal flash with most mil spec ammo, but the Guat stuff I shot around dusk literally shocked me and my onlookers. After I shot a bit, some wanted to shoot it but even more just wanted to sit around and watch the fireballs! This was in the mid 90's. But lesson learned was mil surplus ammo could vary greatly in flash signature!!!

[@e.kent.d9561]

Your usual great comparisons. Now I have to go back and watch your .357 Sig vs .40.

[@jonathananatrella2964]

Hey Paul, if you're looking for 1911 style 357 Sig I do know that Lone Wolf makes some conversion barrels for .40 S&W CZ pistols. (I would love to get my hands on a P-06 and convert it over to 357 Sig but I'm a little too poor for that.) Also, Sig Sauer makes some 1911s in caliber 357 Sig, no surprises there, you just need to pay them your arm, leg, and firstborn son.

[@jayzenitram9621]

Sig makes the Fastback Nightmare in 357 Sig too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGfWYqtpdrOWm7M.

[@fanofCOH]

Paul is so thorough i really appreciate the work he does in these videos. seriously underrated youtuber here.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Another great video. Thank you.

[@yurinator7274]

The best firearms channel I've found.

[@petermartin7371]

SIG P229 357Sig Rockz!!! 😎👍🇺🇸

[@allengrant]

Yep. Agree 100%. It's my carry choice as well.

[@paststeve1]

I have been considering shopping for a new sidearm for concealed carry and further considering something other than 9mm, .40 cal or .45 cal. Your presentation today has helped tremendously. Thanks again for another excellent offering!

[@TheRevoltingMan]

Paul doesn't have a Glock in 9mm, which is one more reason to love him even more.

[@Jimmy_Watt]

Why?

[@SteamControlValve]

Glock snobs. That's why.

[@connergarlock771]

@ I've held the glock (40?) In 10mm and it felt pretty good, very long barrel it actually looked pretty cool in my opinion

[@pewpewTN]

@@connergarlock771 I have the Glock 20 in 10mm. It's my favorite of the 10mm Glocks. A bit smaller than the 40, but bigger than the 29.

[@pewpewTN]

@@SteamControlValve Not all Glock fans are "Glock snobs". I don't want you to be sour over all Glock fans. Hell, I just bought a new Glock 3 days ago, but I also own Taurus, Sccy & other cheap guns. Carried a Ruger 57 today. Not everything has to be a Glock or some premium brand. Then again, I know not every Glock fan is the same as me.

[@henryschmidt636]

Excellent as always. Its no wonder that there is more and more talk about your channel on various gun forums.

[@kirksvillehorsepower]

.357 Sig is pretty sweet. It's nice when something is actually as good as promised.

[@georgejohnsmith]

That is rare, isn't it?

[@nickchannel5364]

"That's a lot more"' thankyou Paul for all your instruction.

[@1manarmyguzman629]

Badass video!! About time someone does a review on 38 super! Seems like everyone on band wagon block 19 9mm lol Mexico loves the 1911 in 38 super! Very popular down there! Seemed to me like it had the best fireballs! It's a caliber that is used by many gangsters and drug cartels tho... didn't know 357 Sig traveled that fast!! U should do a 357 Sig vs. 5.7x28mm!!!

[@metayerman]

1 MAN ARMY Guzman 5.7 mm is fast but has nothing on the power of 357 sig. could be interesting though.

[@traumajock]

Isn't it popular because civilians can't have 9x19 in Mexico? I'm not saying its a bad round, but that it got popular because they couldnt have what they really wanted.

[@1manarmyguzman629]

traumajock no it's popular because it's a very lethal and its in a 1911 mexicans love 1911s. 38super round is pretty much a 9mm on steroids and cause .45acp its not permitted by civilians over there. But I mean now a days nothing is permitted cause of the drug cartels. They see u with a gun over there n they either gonna take it away n kill u or rob u. Yes the cops n cartels both. they work together

[@miltechmoto]

Not if you kill them first, I have a feeling most sheep dogs in America can outshoot most cartel members and dirty cops.

[@1manarmyguzman629]

MilTech Moto na man sadly those guys are well trained some even military level and are well armed. With the $ they got they get heavy artillery and they roll up 15 to 30 deep in several pick up trucks from all angles. It's ridiculous and sad

[@someguythatlookslikeme8306]

This is one of my favorite openings. I dont judge based on the intro, but i do enjoy this one. Good to see you, Sir. Im ever a dan of every production you give us. My prayers are with you and yours, Sir. God Bless You.

[@casinbound5894]

Mo... Mou... MOUSTACHE!

[@wheresmyirishwhiskeytullam4326]

CasInbound Maybe he's getting ready for another old west video?

[@casinbound5894]

Here's hoping.

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

Saw that Guns and 'staches were made for each other.

[@Archangelm127]

Very yes please :)

[@hapnewsom9217]

No shave November.....

[@ChrisHersey]

I can't wait for the winter solstice so Paul's videos will be well lit again. thanks for another good one Paul

[@Astorath_the_Grim]

Digging the Tombstone mustache.

[@stephanematis]

Movember Man!

[@wetelectronics7867]

Whooo yeah baby. Bring on the fuitshoot! Thanks for taking requests Paul.

[@Indianarmslover]

Very nice video.i again request please do 7.62×25 tokarev vs 357 Sig I am curious about this.

[@bktkutistaja2805]

surbhit sharma I have fantasized about that too, and why not throw 5,7 in the mix

[@Indianarmslover]

BKT Kutistaja yes sure 5.7 and 22 TCM also.

[@JohnDoe-pk8lc]

surbhit sharma Great suggestions

[@clintwestwood1895]

Thank you Paul Harrell, this was in my view the best comparison vid on these 2 calibers.

[@m0314700308891515]

Underwood makes some absolutely insane .38 Super +p self defense ammo. I'd love to have seen how it stacked up.

[@marksmanshipmatters3482]

Andrew H They also make a 125 grain 357 Sig that clocks 1600 in a 5.3 inch barrel

[@steviesevieria1868]

Andrew H ...problem with Underwood is that it's loaded to the max. Going to be hard on your gun, maybe hard on some shooters, not really the best for comparisons.

[@jefffannin6969]

Do you need a ramped barrel to shoot the Underwood self defense ammo that is hotter?

[@michaelblacktree]

I recently stumbled upon this channel, and was hooked immediately. I love your straightforward, no-nonsense presentation style. And this is the point where I say "I'm what you call a subscriber". 😉

[@BarryNewmanboenairgeez56]

i really like 357 sig. i turned my g35 into 357 sig and love it. Underwood ammo all the way.

[@12c40]

Barry Newman I did the same, it’s The only Glock I own

[@abortedlord]

Thanks for this video Paul, I carry a Glock 32, .357 Sig daily, and yes, I know my gun works, I know that shooting it into a bad guy will make them stop ( eventually, with good shot placement, I understand my ammunition selection is not a magic talisman that will cause evil men to disappear in a cloud of smoke ), I knew it was faster, but I just knew those as factoids, nothing really solid about what that means and really no legal way to test it anywhere near where I live. Short of getting into a gunfight anyway, which is not something I want to deliberately enter. This was very reassuring to me that I made a good selection based on the information I had at hand. You do great work here, thank you again.

[@TommyboyGTP]

I typically get my .357 Sig ammo online. It's becoming cheaper and more readily available, and to shoot .40 all I have to do is a barrel swap.

[@mattolfson9230]

THANK YOU!! I've been trying to find some quality analysis videos on the .38 Super for a long time now. This is the *first* one that delivered any substance whatsoever. And comparing it head to head with the the .357 Sig and 9mm really added some useful insights. You're the best, Paul!

[@EBB47]

Im surprised that the regular green and white box ammo was in the 1400 fps range for the 357 sig. Almost all manufacturer say 1350.

[@BillMcGirr]

Steve Saephanh I was pleasantly surprised as well... When I saw the chrono numbers... I thought that Remington really made a decent loading for the 357 sig. Good stuff.👍

[@SynchronizorVideos]

Rated velocities for the.357 SIG are often out of 4" or even 3.5" barrels. His Glock 31 has a 4.5" barrel. The SIG's extra case volume, higher pressure, and relatively small bore means it responds really well to longer barrel lengths. Even an extra half-inch or inch can mean substantial velocity increases.

[@OO-qr1ks]

paul harrell your man with a video for everything

[@dnelson7565]

Sig sauer makes a 1911 in 357 sig . It’s called the nightmare.

[@stefsteffe2353]

yes the nightmare carry ,greath pistol

[@RemoteViewr1]

Thoroughly enjoy your cool laid back keep it simple and clear style, just as much as your content. Great job.

[@Jaxon1776]

I wish .357 sig was cheaper and easier to locate. It's a heck of a good round.

[@ratagris21]

Stopped the White Settlement Church shooter of course it was a head shot by a firearms instructor doing security.

[@marlin4448]

Try & find at 38 super. Been trying for months

[@ratagris21]

@@marlin4448 classic firearms sometimes has it stock.

[@chrismoore7359]

I'm quite late to the comments but just want to say the vid was interesting, informative, thorough and delivered in a way that kept me watching until the end! New subscriber here.

[@ruben2365]

I asked about the SIG .357 and my friend said "that's a man's gun" . It is being a better gun compared to other pistols.

[@hamm6033]

Spot on Paul, as usual. Thank you for all your informative videos. I don't think we as viewers say that enough.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

I've used 38 Super for oh 25 years very under rated cartridge. It out rates the 9 mm if one uses hand loads which eclipses factory ammo by a lot. My 125 gr bullets hand loaded over a chrony hit at 1,370 but elevation makes a big difference here in Montana my home sits at 5,700 ft, thinner air causes less drag on a bullet.

[@Gieszkanne]

Some handload data even say 1470 is possible with 124gr

[@montanamountainmen6104]

Yes true the 38 Super is no slouch it can beat the 9 mm and rival it 357 Sig.

[@davidcalderwood1]

Gieszkanne No manufacturer published anything that high that I've seen. Perhaps using cases that are more like Starline brass that might be thicker, but it seems safer to simply switch to the 9x23, which uses the same magazines and is close to the same size. The 9x23 is intended to run at about 150% of the Super's pressures. It's the most underrated pistol cartridge out there.

[@montanamountainmen6104]

True but at the time the 9x23 wasn't manufactured in the early 90's, why I went with the 38 Super. The 9x23 is a under rated round, most even today don't even know about it.

[@Gieszkanne]

On handloads . com Can you shout 9x23 out of a 38 super?

[@mid-misage3416]

Looks like it's time for a .357Sig vs .357 magnum comparison and time for me to get a .357Sig barrel for my Glock 23

[@bigjoesshow5648]

Mid-MI Sage Try Underwood 40 in 155 grain...582 ftlbs at the muzzle...or you could try their 135 grain, but that's on you!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brent3711]

357sig 124 grain was made to mimic the 125 grain 357 Magnum round the 357sig was made to have a larger round capacity then 6 or now 8 in a 357 . This was before the 1911 Coonan 357 Magnum

[@Lexicologist71]

@@brent3711 I think the Coonan came before the 357 Sig cartridge.

[@tombrown8800]

Really enjoy seeing you shoot over the chronograph also like the " boring parts " where you just talk.and of course the meat target

[@ghostshadow9046]

Short winter days make outdoor video a bit difficult.

[@anonymousstranger8766]

Thanks for all the videos and work you put into them. Very informative and well done.

[@Not_Sure_81]

Hmmm....what about 10mm vs 41mag?

[@JohnLloydScharf]

The capacity for the 41 mag is higher and the pressure maxes are nearly the same. It would be good to compare with 30 shots each for velocity and then shoot the "meat target.