San Martin Kermit Ghost SN0017G-B Submariner Homage - Perth WAtch

[@anthonyhauser3063]

This watch will do everything a Rolex submariner will do and save you around 20 grand thank you san Martin it’s a great watch

[@PerthWAtch]

Yeah that’s totally wrong. A Rolex will almost always go up in price. Almost no other watch does that 😂

[@anthonyhauser3063]

@@PerthWAtch let me know how that works out for you , best wishes

[@PerthWAtch]

No thanks, you should let me know how this goes with you.

[@paulvon2378]

Great review. I wonder if this is the best homage even at the $1,000 USD range as well? Easy to be the best at $200 buck price. I think this watch could also sell for $1,000.00 as well?

[@PerthWAtch]

Nope, don’t think so… there is essentially NO watch anywhere AFAIK that’s a $1000 with an NH35A movement. It is much harder to be the best at $200, the competition is enormous and you have to shave everywhere you can.

[@trogpo]

Thanks, Ivan, for another professional and honest review! The point behind this specific model is cutting costs and producing the same San Martin quality and the (almost) same proven homage watch, but a bit cheaper. This is precisely why the clasp and the box are old San Martin stock, and the bracelet has friction pins and not screws.

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks. Yep, I thought that’s what I said :)

[@trogpo]

@@PerthWAtch Ooops, sorry. I swear I watched the entire video. Somehow missed it.

[@PerthWAtch]

All good mate :)

[@chriskelly509]

When I got back into wearing a watch again after not wearing a watch for over 10 years, San Martin was one of the few brands that I had heard of. Gonna buy a san martin after my winter vacation

[@PerthWAtch]

How interesting that this was a brand you’ve heard of! Where do you live? I don’t think they have any presence in any physical retail store anywhere that I’ve heard, although perhaps they might in China. For most people here, they would hear of Citizen, Casio, Seiko, Longines, Tag Heuer… then perhaps Tissot, Rado, Swatch… and of course bigger names like Rolex and Omega (but that’s another tier).

[@chriskelly509]

@PerthWAtch I have no idea where I heard of them, probably from another person at some point... I looked online and they have been in business since 2016 so I'm not sure when or where I heard them.. 2024 is when I started wearing a watch again. It's been about 10 years since I wore a watch. I've head of casio,timex,rolex.. I saw a picture of me when I was younger about 10 years ago wearing a watch and I can't even remember what watch I had at the time LOL but I'm betting it was a Casio

[@PerthWAtch]

Interesting - thanks for sharing 👍

[@RampartPh]

It's been quite the minute, Ivan. Nice to see you doing your thing on yt once again.

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha has it been that bad? I posted 4 videos in the last 5 weeks I think… that’s not too infrequent is it?

[@watchalot919]

They are now producing some of their own designs, I have bought a few. The SN0131 is amazing, and I reviewed it recently. They have just bought out a budget range, which come in the old black boxes, so I suspect the one you reviewed is one of those. Absolutely incredible value for money watches, and in reality so much better spec'd than a Tissot or Seiko. Ivan, they do supply a glidelock clasp on many of their watches now, but as that one is a budget model they left it off.

[@PerthWAtch]

Ah very nice - I’ll take a look!

[@paulvon2378]

what about steeldive and addiesdive?

[@simonwright6882]

I believe that this one is old stock spec and packaging. I have a new model and it has screw pins and glide clasp and new packaging.

[@PerthWAtch]

This is an adjustment on the specs so that they can reduce the price. Yours would not have been $139.

[@simonwright6882]

@@PerthWAtch I paid £150 with some discount. Female end links and 300m water resistant. Definitely worth the extra.

[@PerthWAtch]

Yep, different watch. Not what I reviewed.

[@simonwright6882]

@@PerthWAtch Yes the sn0111 in sale tomorrow for £135. A much smater purchase than the model you reviewed.

[@PerthWAtch]

Another different watch, did you notice? Not “smater” if you want this look

[@alexsdg3441]

hey Ivan, how are you mate, again??? ha ha. Currently I am writing this in Hong Kong. I have been in Taiwan, China & Hong Kong for 3 weeks and finally going back home to L.A. tomorrow. My first trip to China & HK in 3 years since Covid. So much changed for sure. Anyway, I went around last few days looking at Rolex watches. As you know, there are plethora of Rolex dealers in Hong Kong. Surprisingly, every Rolex was available for immediate purchase, including steel Rolex sub at around US$12K range. Still hefty premium, but much lower than 2 years ago and plenty of stock. As for San Martin, apparently, they are now targeting $130 to $199 market to expand their market share. They have cheapened bracelet & clasp "only". (however, I think that push pin is a mistake to do so...) But as you said, still they all are great value and I expect them to do very well in that price range. As Pagani was trying to move up in quality and price (which they are having some difficult time), I believe that it will be much easier for San Martin to step down and get the market share. As you know, it is always easy to go down on price from higher brand name than vice-versa. Thanks for the review, Ivan.

[@PerthWAtch]

Hello!!! Oh wow great to hear you're travelling around mate! There are many Rolex ADs in HK indeed but I'm curious to hear about those dealers you are referring to - $12k is above retail so surely those are no ADs?? I think in reality any Rolex can be purchased with the online market these days... the issue is how much of a premium is one willing to pay and making sure there is a fool proof mechanism in place to guarantee authenticity. Good point about San Martin's moves and I think you're very likely correct there... still, not having screws and a glide-lock here means they very leave the window open for Pagani to stay strong.

[@philspencelayh5464]

The Submariner does nothing for me so it no surprise this doesn't either. The push pins and ordinary clasp allows them to concentrate on the bits you can see, looks very well done for the price, good value. I've never seen a watch on your channel that I'd like to own but I'm always interested to see what you show us next, keep it up.

[@PerthWAtch]

Never!? Ouch… that’s harsh haha What watches would you like to own (or like owning)?

[@DavidV4444]

For me, I feel ok buying this (I just ordered it) because I sort of have the real thing. I own a Rolex GMT Master II and am on a waiting list for the Sub - so I bought this and I am sure I will love it.

[@PerthWAtch]

Nice one - I wish I could get a Sub or a GMT Master II!

[@johnlandry7919]

Just ordered one also 👍

[@paulvon2378]

I would also look at Steinhart. Swiss made as well.

[@PerthWAtch]

I already did, many times… more expensive also. Checkout my videos on Steinhart!

[@paulvon2378]

@@PerthWAtch thanks mate! I purchased this watch in 40 mm for $148 USD (included shipping and a tip) . Hard to beat. Same with Steinhart.

[@paulvon2378]

@@PerthWAtch this is the "Starbucks" Homage. Kermit of Hulk is green on green

[@mitchellwnorowski6747]

No comparison San Martin super finishing, Steinhardt has swiss movement though.

[@ivoshandor6859]

⁠@@paulvon2378Kermit is also a black dial with a green bezel. It’s just a different shade of green than a Starbucks.

[@tonyd223]

I had the SN0017 (NH35) and upgraded to the SN0019 (SW200)... what a difference!

[@PerthWAtch]

How much?

[@tonyd223]

@@PerthWAtch oh, eBay, so got the 19 for about £200... Bargain

[@PerthWAtch]

Not bad

[@Pal-us9uv]

@@tonyd223why is the 19 better?

[@ShogunTen]

What's the difference between the sn0017 b and GB?

[@PerthWAtch]

Some minor improvements I think

[@vincentparslow4314]

Thank you Ivan I liked it

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks. Do check out the links if you’d like to purchase :)

[@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls]

Currently on-sale for like $130

[@PerthWAtch]

That’s amazing value

[@omoniyikaye]

I'M GOING FOR THIS AS MY FIRST INTRO TO SAN MARTIN. I'M PAYING LESS £122.

[@PerthWAtch]

Very nice!

[@davidsonviray1403]

What's your wrist size?

[@PerthWAtch]

17cm as mentioned in video

[@davidsonviray1403]

​@@PerthWAtch how do you think this will match against the sugess starbucks?

[@PerthWAtch]

Dunno - I’ve never had a Sugess in hand

[@ivoshandor6859]

I’ve grown to appreciate your snark. You’re a smart ass but a suave smart ass. I have this watch now based partly on your review.

[@PerthWAtch]

I’ll take that as a compliment. I think 😆

[@iron883cd]

i have the steeldive and i would love if someone do a comparision

[@PerthWAtch]

Would be good! Send me yours? ;)

[@quarters-eye8922]

Nice 👍👍👍

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes :)

[@USA2ndAmendment]

I hate push pins on the bracelet...it is a deal breaker for me. I will gladly pay the extra for screw links.

[@PerthWAtch]

Or go Pagani and pay less for it 😂

[@brianmccord7387]

The Invicta 8926OB killer

[@PerthWAtch]

I think Cadisen kills Invicta these days no?

[@BryanO92]

Seems like San Martin has gooten the memo that at this point, if you're doing a sub homage you'd better be doing it right, or it's going to be lost in the ocean of sub alikes.

[@PerthWAtch]

Oh I think San Martin gets it more than just about anyone. Do you know anything better for the price?

[@Mystery_Man84]

I thought it’s called the “Starbucks”🤔

[@PerthWAtch]

Nope

[@Mystery_Man84]

@@PerthWAtch yes it is lol. Kermit is more of a lime 🍋‍🟩 green. This IS the Starbucks

[@PerthWAtch]

Damn these San Martin people never telling me anything. Oh wait… they can call it whatever they want 😂

[@Mystery_Man84]

@@PerthWAtch except Kermit. It looks nothing like Kermit the frog 🐸 🥴

[@PerthWAtch]

And the Hulk looks nothing like an Avenger, and the Starbucks looks nothing like a cafe 🤣

[@jamessmith6402]

Thanks Ivan good review not a bad Rolex lookalike 👍

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks James!

[@nicacioalencar5560]

Push pins is a mistake. Even the Pagani 1661 which now is 60/70 usd has scroll pins. I won’t buy anything with those new specs.

[@PerthWAtch]

Yes, but did you hear what I said about the quality of this piece? Pagani gives you all the specs but the fit and finish simply does not compare.

[@Westsergio85]

I sincerely believe that San Martin may have a collaboration with Watch Dive or really this watch is not an original San Martin. If you look at a WD 1860 it is clearly the same watch...same blue ar coating glass, same weaker bracelet, screws are not solid, packaging is WD... I think that for what this watch costs, it is not a good purchase. For €10-€20 more you have an authentic SM

[@PerthWAtch]

Need to search as “WatchDives”. The site does list San Martin - more likely they took design from San Martin rather than other way around. That packaging is just a generic box and I guarantee you is *not* a designed by any watch company, definitely not WD. Look it up. And don’t be mistaken, this is definitely “authentic” 😂 What you mean to say is that for $10-20 more you can get a different SM but to get the Swiss movement Subby with screw links and glide-lock it would take a lot more than that.

[@spasev]

Instead of making it better by adding their new clasp they made it worse by removing the screws for links.

[@PerthWAtch]

Watch the video for the reasons behind this ;)

[@micronesia3797]

The cyclops magnification is absolutely huge, very off putting unfortunately...

[@PerthWAtch]

Most people like it :)

[@BizonURS]

Nice looking watch .... but the magnification looks like waaaaaaaaaaay tooooo much ....

[@PerthWAtch]

Haha isn’t that a good thing?

[@lucasgastondiez4080]

thats a CHONK case

[@PerthWAtch]

What?

[@lucasgastondiez4080]

@@PerthWAtch i meant that the lugs are kinda big 😂😂

[@PerthWAtch]

The lugs are completely average for this size and type

[@litan114]

i'd NOT wear it if you cant own a Rolex, dont wear "homages" = fakes/rips off/replicas

[@PerthWAtch]

Thanks for the comment. Have filed in “snob” and “rubbish” 😉

[@RageAgainstTime]

then don't wear it, who cares? If you can't buy a Ferrari, then don't buy a Corvette! If you can't drink $200 wine then don't drink the $5 wine!🤣

[@PerthWAtch]

What a silly comment! I can’t buy a Ferrari - I drive an Audi. Nothing wrong with that. Use your words to make your point 😂🤣

[@RageAgainstTime]

@@PerthWAtch oh, you are fine! It was a reply to the homage = fake guy. I would expect him to drink the expensive wine instead of the homage cheap wine according to his analogy. Lol

[@怪談大好き]

Then don't watch this video. It clearly says "submariner homage" in the title. You want to tell us that you would not wear any replica watches, then go ahead. No one cares if you wear real or fake ones lol

[@vernenfelcher6442]

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[@PerthWAtch]

What