Fuji Firmware 4.10 Did They Fix It?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Did you update your X-T5? If so, is there an improvement in the AF?

[@BenjieTS]

Yes, 5-10% improvement catching my cats! :) Ty Pete for the video.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@@BenjieTS good to hear

[@mykromacro4599]

Umm, I thought that's what you were going to reveal in your review?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@@mykromacro4599 I did. I’m just asking about other people’s experiences too.

[@mick1967]

@@willgreig8912 Sony? That happens when you are focused too much on this AF shit. I hate Sony. Bad skin tones, bad haptics, cheap looking cameras.

[@winc06]

When Nikon did something I did not like. I moved on and happily found Fujifilm. If AF perfection, or any feature, is a necessary requirement for anyone you just move on. Fuji's AF is unlikely to ever be the best as their engineering team has to work around active patents held by Canon, Nikon and Sony. They all make wonderful images in the hands of people who learn how to use them. This is one of my favorite channels discovered through Pal2tech. Way to go Pete.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thanks so much! I agree and this is the thing I find so interesting. After all this time, if you still are unhappy with a brand, you owe it to yourself to switch. It’s also amazing how triggered some people get from a video like this where I just tell them what I experienced and even show video/images too. It’s such an interesting phenomenon.

[@lionheart4424]

You can move on, and naturally at this point is the best choice because most Fuji shooters that do paid work has to adopt another brand (Pete with Canon, Omar with Nikon, Roman Fox now with Sony), or others just abandon ship. Still, doesn't hurt to voice your concern, specially if you are still using the brand of your choice. The worst part is that the best offerings are only on full frame for other brands, which comes with extra weight, size and increased prices.

[@mex5341]

too bad , Nikon now is doing great cameras and lenses.

[@brownbear100]

Fujifilm was also found in 2018 to have breached autofocus patents held by PhaseOne. They reached a sealed settlement so who knows what they agreed to do or not do.

[@winc06]

What a tour de force. Great images. Delightful running and dodging. The bass solo was a special treat.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thank you!!!

[@lionheart4424]

Hey Pete, first I want to thank you for this video. Video AF looks improved slightly as others have reported, and I liked that you test it out in a low light environment. I'll have to say that to properly showcase the performance of stills, you would have to show a slideshow of shots taken in burst and disclose how many were actually in focus vs those out of focus. For all we know, the pictures shown were a handful of "lucky" ones. Now, I know you are a professional photographer and I want to trust your judgment here. In the end that's why doing all these AF tests is so draining. Finally, that solo at the end was you? That was fire! Wish you a happy new year and thanks for sticking with FUJIFILM.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thanks! And good point regarding burst of images and of course af tests in general. Yep that was me playing bass at the end. Glad you liked it!

[@Ramiel77]

It's better. But still not great. I used it in low light conditions during Christmas with my family. And it would freak out a lot. Giving me the red "AF" box, and not taking the shot maybe one third of the time. Another third of the time it would give me a false positive. I noticed it is still focusing on the sharpest contrast item/object in the scene, instead of the eye or face.I was using my X-T5 with the newest18mm 1.4, and my X100VI with the face/eye tracker. Eventually I moved to manual focus, and I was getting much closer shots my self. In bright daylight, it is much better at tracking my dogs running around. On that environment, I tihnk it is much improved. This is a step in the right direction. But I don't think we should give them a brake yet "Trust Takes Years To Build, Seconds To Break And Forever To Repair"

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Was it working well previously?

[@Ramiel77]

@@PeteCocoPhoto Nope.It was missing half the shots, which I couldn't tell, until I went home and put it on a larger screen. Same issue, it seems to love to hunt for high contrast small detail, like tree branches against a bright sky, or texture patterns on furniture of clothes

[@Rich-y8n]

Thank you for posting. I enjoyed your photos in the bar. It seem to capture the feeling.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thanks!

[@selishots]

Seems like a solid update. Hopefully the next generation of Fujis gets it right from the start

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I’m not holding my breath 😆😆

[@gregcorker2193]

Informative AF update impression. Hope it improves confidence for users of the XT-5.

[@cedric3379]

The biggest issue before was that the camera seemed to be catching whatever it should(like human eyes) rather quickly, but then I realized it actually didn't focus when viewing the photos on bigger screens, after this update the situation seems to be getting better but I'm still not confident given my past experience with fuji bodies and viewing photos afterward is like easter eggs. Idk, like to me it's more of a confidence thing now which is kinda sad

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

True. They have shattered confidence in the af

[@photographybypetercharles9939]

One thing I found is to use AFC CUSTOM to set tracking stickiness to max when shooting in a chaotic environment like you have here. Face detect plus max stickiness will tend to reduce the jumping from the face to the mic and then back to the face. Choosing a better vantage point so that the singer eyes never go behind the mic in the frame, helps a lot too. (Sorry, had to add that). In a recent studio test, I found that my Sony ZV-E10 was actually worse than my Fujifilm X-S20 when it came to dealing with objects passing between the face and the camera. I'm sure that most people would assume that the Fujifilm would come off as second best, just based on reputation. I sometimes wonder with these AF reviews how much Fujifilm's AF reputation colours the interpretation of the results.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Interesting and thanks for this comment.

[@ivandj707]

The AF seems usable, especially in those low-light conditions and with third-party lenses, the result is decent.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yeah it was solid. Not blowing my mind but worked

[@Svensonsmedia]

My favourite lenses are the Voigtländer 27mm Ultron and the 18mm Color-Skopar and because these are manual lenses I`m not so interested on the Update and the autofocus when I put the 23mm Fuji on is decent and I'm happy. I did the Update anyway. I want to do the job myself it´s my hobby I don't want the camera to do the job. I had this issue with my Sony and that's why I changed to Fuji and I mainly shoot in JPEG only!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Those are great lenses

[@robertarmero6320]

I use Voigtlander on my Zf. Used on Fuji when I had it. Much more entertaining and hell I even use them for work too, and that’s that I got the Nikon autofocus at my side if I so choose. Still often I choose manual focus

[@LucaPetraliaPhotography]

Man, that bass solo is great. As for the AF, I haven't updated my X-T50 yet, cause I'm actually fine with it and I don't want to make it worse... So much for the trust in firmware updates😅

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thanks! I don’t trust the updates I do it for you all. 😆😆😆 but this one seems okay so far

[@charliejg]

My first thought: That club environment has to be quite challenging for any AF system shooting video. I have zero experience doing video, so I'm not sure about that. It would be interesting to see side by side with a Sony for example and see the difference. Having said that, I doubt I'll ever be using my camera for video. But, I would be interested in seeing how you shoot the stills like you showed in the beginning of this video. Love the music!!! Have a rockin' day and Happy New Year!!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Happy New Year Charlie! The Sony would still be better based on my experience but I was happy with how the Fuji handled.

[@AndyGlavac]

Pete thanks for a great video and test You are always so objective I agree it got better and this needs to be improved further I love the music and your B&W images All the best for 2025 I will be following you

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thank you Andy! I appreciate the kind words and support.

[@iantaylor7992]

Cheers, Pete, great review and comment.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thanks 🙏

[@da009999]

This studio lighting looks great. Did Pete shoot this video in F-log or Canon log?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Neither. The talking head vid is in 4k on my canon r5. No luts or anything

[@mikefoster6018]

I've taken out the new X-T5 firmware in London twice, using AF-C for photos of people moving about. It definitely seems quite sticky (which is good) and I've not noticed false positives. Face tracking can grab the wrong faces, so I'd likely turn it off for most street photos. I don't like how it'll hunt for faces far outside of the focus zone box.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I typically only use face tracking when I have one person in the frame because of that. It’s easier to just pick a focusing point I think

[@mikefoster6018]

@@PeteCocoPhoto I was using it this time for testing the firmware. Having said that, if the face tracking more reliably stuck to the obvious main person in a street photo (rather than getting distracted by all the other faces) I'd use it.

[@JuanKis]

Thank you for sharing this! I updated my X-T5 the first day, I did a few portraits and it looks better but I need more time to judge, here in Portland Oregon is rainy every single day, nothing to test the AF-C at home. Thank you Pete!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

My pleasure as always

[@JuanKis]

@@PeteCocoPhoto Thank you! I've corrected all my typos! Gorilla's thumbs, I need a 32 inches mobile home! 😁

[@Art-kz6zf]

Great photos. Thanks for the info.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thank you!

[@mykromacro4599]

Thanks for the tests. While Fuji cameras aren't rated highly for auto-focus tracking of birds in flight (despite the bird recognition feature) hopefully this firmware update will improve (or return to the somewhat usable version before 'that' update broke things).

[@mykromacro4599]

OK, first bird photog test of the new firmware was promising (using 400 zoom). Good result with a fast maneuvering swallow (is anything more challenging!?).

[@jtes1442]

Nice video, Pete. Nobody should expect perfection from Fuji, but they should better communicate with their customer base.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

100% and they should have af on par w others by now too

[@trashpanther2296]

I did notice an improvement in the AF-C performance. I also don’t use eye auto detect, because it just drives me nuts, so those features are wasted on me. I don’t expect Sony, Canon or Nikon levels of autofocus from my XT-5. That is not why I spent money on Fuji. I bought Fuji for the form factor, film simulations… and because Leica is way too expensive.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Glad to hear it’s working better for you

[@Ton-x4r]

I did the update but I don't know if things are better or different now. On thing I noticed that the update proces took forever. I was concerned that something went wrong but after a while the update proces completed.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

It's been working well for me, def better than 4.0 however I don't know that it's better (or worse) than the earlier versions)

[@danielschmaderer]

I’m glad they improved it on the XT5. I haven’t had time to test it out. I can’t wait to take it out for a spin. Edit: also, you have the weirdest people hating and nitpicking at basically nothing on your videos. It’s quite hilarious.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I’m glad it’s not me who feels that way. Sometimes I think I must be a terrible person but then… nah can’t be that 😆

[@danielschmaderer]

@@PeteCocoPhoto you’re a super chill guy based on what I can tell from the videos. People are just soft and take things further than it needs to be. That’s the internet.

[@iaincphotography6051]

Yes Pete it does work, usual daft test, daughter running around on the driveway, side to side, backwards forwards. Stills only. Updates on lens 16/80 f4. I have tried umpteen times, it says it can not find firmware when trying to down load on camera, fresh battery, different formatted cards AGH! Hope you had a great Christmas and may your new year be a prosperous one.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Did you try downloading via the app?

[@iaincphotography6051]

@@PeteCocoPhoto I will give it a shot, cheers.

[@cbimage]

This is helpful. Thanks. I would say that mine has improved, on X-T5 and X100VI, but I'm only an amateur. What's the "focus dial", though?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I meant the af joystick

[@LashahVideo]

I sold all of my X-Series Camera Gear and lenses 4 days before the firmware was released and purchased the Lumix S5II and S1R. Extremely please with the new system and believe it or the S1R with contrast detect auto-focus is more reliable and continuous auto focusing mode than my previously owned XH2S and X-T5. I am happy with GFX 100SII and 50SII for studio work. One day, Fujifilm might get their cameras auto focusing system on par with the other camera makers. The issue that bothered me so much with my Fuji X series cameras is that they cost just as much as a full frame camera. It just didn’t make sense to pay more and get less

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Makes sense esp with a Gfx

[@preyes621011]

I had very serious issues with 4.1 version .. But now with the 4.10. the AFC is amazing I went with a 150-600 mm from 20%accuracy to above 90%..Oh I shoot Still only.. so for me.. has been a bless de new firmware

[@birjub9647]

I use my XT5 mainly for videos and I updated the firmware as soon as it came out and did some tests. So compared to the previous firmware that messed the Af this update fixed the AF bug. Just fixed and it now the af works thats it! This update does not bring any improvements or new features. Fujfilm fixed what they broke.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Seems that way

[@just_eirik]

Even though I don’t need the AF to be better, I still updated. :P (Commenting for the algorithm tbh.)

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Appreciate it!!

[@nicedward7544]

I'm selling my FF Sony gear for gfx 50sii lol .... Huge step back in af but i don't shoot video and I'm completely fine with manual focus being an old fart. I shot sports with manual focus film cameras in the day so it's whatever. I'm just after the beautiful files of that sensor. Loaded some up in Lightroom and was blown away by them. High iso noise is so smooth and manageable. A joy to work with the raw files compared to Sony.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yep. Can’t argue with any of that for sure

[@jimk8353]

Thank you for the video. In that bar scene in beginning part of video, you're shooting moving subjects with AF-S? Did not realize that was a thing with subject detect turned on? What is the advantage of shooting people that are moving (even subtly) with AF-S over constant AF-C focusing?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yes you can use AF-S with subject detect. Back in the old days I used to use AF-S for moving subjects all the time because AF-C didn't work well (I'm talking with my older Canon gear not Fuji).

[@fredschmidt8609]

Hi Pete.Isn't it amazing that any good photographs were produced before AF?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

lol

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Some people couldn’t survive without eye af 😆

[@mainmain5303]

Good photographs are produced by lighting, composition and editing. NOT BY THE CAMERA. But the camera still has to focus.

[@cameraman655]

Probably the best comment so far.👍

[@cameraman655]

@@mainmain5303There's always MF…Up until 1985, that was all we had and we still delivered knock-out images, especially with “action” and fast-paced events….God, I am old…

[@TungstenOvergaard]

Tracking was also working very good, or average good, in previous version. Tracking and 2-0 on AFC settings.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

This is a good point. Is is better than befor or just back to where it was previously? I have no idea lol

[@TungstenOvergaard]

@@PeteCocoPhoto better than before. For my use case, daylight kids’ soccer, enough. But yeap, now better than before.

[@NetvoTV]

Is there a lens to match a Zf with 28-400mm in Fuji lens lineup?

[@tomwerner352]

You could use the Tamron 18-300 / it’s a 28-450 equivalent

[@NetvoTV]

@tomwerner352 but the stabilisation isn't as nice

[@tomwerner352]

Depends if you need it or already have IBIS in the camery body. Fuji XF18-120 is also available but afaik also without OIS

[@NetvoTV]

@tomwerner352 nah, I want something thst can top it, if not then Zf with that lens is only choice and those who get close to similar specs even it's in crop sensor has similar weight and size, not pocketable too, hence why not just full frame, I think better get a good size with good range camera or else get a true pocketable camera, I will get Zf + 28-400 + 14-30 + a silver or colourful marking small lens to match the aesthetic + iPhone 15 By the way, I'm a freelance designer and I'm looking for more works, would you love to have a logo and merch prints and other works you like me to do for you? It will allow me to get these setup quicker too

[@HugoAlmeidaMorais]

off topic: the photos are edited RAW or jpge with some recipe

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I use Acros+G in raw, and tweak the raw files with the film sim enabled.

[@joeyassyrian]

As others noted, not amazing but better. In my opinion, it looks like to me that Fuji will delay releasing the X-T6/X-pro4 until they get their shit together. I am not sure they will but Japanese companies are known for joint development. At this point they should team up with Sony or Nikon and just work on something together or pay licensing/royalties. I regret bringing my Fuji for the Christmas trip, wish I had primes for my Nikon Z8.

[@eeM_Gee]

Great music!

[@plagueofkoalas]

It's improved over the previous broken firmware, yes. But if you compare it to v2.10 it is worse for me with AFC + subject detection. I think they just reverted the firmware to a previous version and have not done anything to improve it. It still switches to the background a LOT. It is not usable for video in my opinion.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Did you do this comparison? I think it’s an interesting question but I went from 4.0 so it was a noticeable improvement

[@RichardJPhotog]

short description? "partially revised= rolled back. PACIFICATION of the base.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I didn’t think of that but it makes sense. I’m just glad it’s an improvement

[@bingbong4848]

Nice bass!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

🙏

[@persona5401]

Tested using the latest firmware, the af-c is still not up to been 'fixed'. Tested using the xf33mm, 50-140mm and viltrox 13mm. About 40% of my frames missed focus despite the green box showing at eye or face.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

What subjects/shooting conditions were you photographing?

[@ulrikchristiansen]

"Partially"... I mean, it is just stupid of Fujifilm not to come clean. Doesn't help their reputation at all. I have to admit that I have serious doubts if Fuji lands my next big investment in camera gear.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

You’re not the only one. They definitely did a terrible job handling all of this. What are you considering instead?

[@ulrikchristiansen]

@PeteCocoPhoto Well, I really like my Fuji gear, which, to be honest, has worked fine for my needs, so I would be hard pressed to leave. But, personally I can't shell out 4000 dollars on new Fuji gear with this behavior as it is. I would do some Nikon or Canon research first. Thanks Pete for your videos.

[@joshfogel9966]

This is all good to know, Finally trade in my xt30ii and too many lenses for XT5 today. Bought the new 16-50 kit lens for the all arounder. Question for everyone here. 33 1.4 , 27 1.2 Viltrox, Sigma 30 1.4 for my fast prime?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I have the 27 1.2 and really like it

[@TheJ_G]

I’ve owned both the new Fuji 33 1.4, and Viltrox 27 1.2 at the same time. I sold the Fuji. The Viltrox was noticeably better in IQ. But the Fuji was noticeably smaller.

[@joshfogel9966]

@@TheJ_GEveryone says the Viltrox. Guess I just have to go hold both of them and see if the Viltrox is too big roaming around the city. The price is bananas. Thanks for the input!!

[@macjim]

I’d like to have seen you review this with one of the Fujifilm lenses to get a better idea if it is indeed better 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I used that lens because of the lighting situation. It’s on par w Fuji lenses in terms of af accuracy as well

[@MAwroutna-]

I'm really struggling to choose between the Sony a6700 and XT5 just because of this. If it's not the case I would definitely go with the XT5 as I love Fuji colors and look, but the AF makes me hesitate

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

You and everyone else lol. The af is still not going to be close to Sony

[@MAwroutna-]

@PeteCocoPhoto And compared to canon AF system, is it similar? ( as I'm a canon user and looking to switch )

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@@MAwroutna- it’s not as good as Sony or canon or Nikon

[@MAwroutna-]

@@PeteCocoPhoto I see, Thank you sir I appreciate your time

[@EnricoFrascati]

I've used a Sony 6500 for a couple of years to shoot live events during the period 2017-2019, and I would never switch back to Sony after trying Fuji. The difference is having a camera which is part of a system (Sony: shoot, import, edit, edit, edit, deliver) or having a camera that can get incredible shots without further editing (Fuji: shoot, deliver). You should edit only if you shoot with some difficult light (for example, a backlight situation) or if you're a perfectionist. Pictures are beautiful, who cares if some shots are not perfectly focused? If I get 40Mpx images and deliver 2000px pictures, a subtle out of focus is very rarely an issue. And in any case consider that I shoot 5 to 10 times the number of pictures I deliver to my clients, and even if I have to trash 1 shot out of every 5 for the AF (which is NEVER the case), I still have hundreds of good shots to choose from. Typically during a 4-hour conference, I shoot between 1000 and 1500 shots, and it's very rare that I have to trash 10% of the shots because of the AF (of course I 'm not counting blurred images for other issues like slow shutter or shaky hands on my side). Of course if you have to shoot olympic games and every single shot should be perfect, then probably you should need a camera with a better AF. I would also switch in that case, but then don't get a Sony A6xxx, start with an A7x kit and save money for some good expensive lens.

[@lumilikha]

Wait..? You play bass?

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I do.

[@spozitron]

usually my trick for shooting live musicians on video, on a Fuji... which I do A LOT (XT-30ii, amusingly NEVER updated the firmware) AFC, but spot focusing. usually stick that little square somewhere middle width, 2/3rds height. which more often than not, usually lands on people's faces singing on microphone when I pan past them, and/or faces behind drums and/or fingers plucking instruments. and if it doesn't, just quickly whizz that square where I need it with the touchscreen. ...yeah maybe this is slightly easier, because I just use the screen, not the EVF. and it's only EVER failed me (briefly) once if a horrifically/EXTREMELY backlit gig, where it lost someone's face completely. but that's like... one fail, out of 200, in the past year or so. ... but I'm also curious whether there's a better way to do it. and if my method ONLY works using the touchscreen/no EVF?

[@spozitron]

sweet B&W photos btw, and I can definitely understand why you made them B&W with that NASTY electric blue (I'm assuming LED light) backlighting. yeouch! small venues, amiright? hahaha

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I’m usually just using a small focus box and aiming it at the face. But this worked well too

[@jackrussel9991]

Hi Pete, thank you so much for the effort to test the latest FMW 4.10 from FUJIFILM. I appreciated the open approach. It looks better and promising, perhaps they will also enhance more in the near future. All the caos generated around the FUJI AF as an interesting learning experience. For sure FUJIFILM has done a really bad job with the communication about it. As user we have to be realistic and not just brand supporter, we pay good money and the declared perfomances must be there. As well, it was an eyes open process to see how many content creator moved from silence, to brand supporter and finally forced to admit the issue, that means no much professionalism there but just the interest to please the brand. Once again thanks for being very active on this making tests and sharing result. And, I really like your b&w pics. Nice mood indeed. The bass solo??? Wow ... great! Happy Holiday & peace.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Happy Holidays and thank you! I agree, they need some serious help in the communication and customer service areas.

[@kalleg7354]

I use Fuji since 2016 and ill never used the AF-C on the cameras. Why should i ? Fuji is for me joy of using and unbelievable good colours straight out of camera . Thats it and its everything i need , cheers

[@traffbros]

I can't see the army of people to say they sold all fuji because atofocus this autofocus that, zooming in 500% because that's what photography is about when your overall image sucks. I'm starting to think a lot of them are paid by SoNiCa to spout shit. Who on earth watches a random autofocus firmware update from another system? Why? Makes no sense to me

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Some people love to hate on brands especially Fuji lol. Criticism is fine but I don’t get the crazed hate either

[@GerhardBothaWFF]

Really? I think Canon is the most hated brand by far. And Fuji fanboys play a major role in that regard. As if any consumer played any role in the creation of these wonderful products. The simple fact is if you need the best AF performance for your type of photography, then Canon and Sony rules. Honestly, I mainly shoot birds and wildlife, so portrait photography is not a priority for me. But sometimes I need to do a portrait. I use a manual focus lens for that with a very thin DOF at down to F0.95. What a portrait or street photographer does with world class AF I don’t know. People are just weird I guess.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@@GerhardBothaWFF there’s a ton of hate to go around that’s true. I don’t hate any brand I think it’s pretty silly.

[@toddm6999]

So like what about Leica AF as a comparison 😅

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

😆😆😆

[@fredschmidt8609]

What's more important is that Sony color science.

[@FKv5p]

Not clear if it is better than the last (worst) or better than all the earlier ones.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

It’s better than the last one. I’ve kept up with all the updates since I make vids about it but this is a good question

[@FKv5p]

@@PeteCocoPhoto Thank you for the reply. I still have the 2.03 version and was wondering if the latest one is better than that.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@ it’s been so long since I had that version I can’t say for sure. My advice is to leave it if you are happy

[@FKv5p]

@@PeteCocoPhoto Thank you. I shifted from nikon to fuji for the Fuji jpeg colors to avoid color correcting each and every picture, which was the case with my nikon d750. I think i will remain with fuji but wont invest further in the system till they cath up with others on AF.

[@zyxyuv1650]

I've watched hundreds of videos about Fujifilm to research every camera and every lens, and the biggest takeaway is that there's always autofocus problems for every camera and every lens, and almost every reviewer is complaining about autofocus in almost every video. How can Fujifilm be so incapable of resolving this? I decided to cancel my Fujifilm system I was planning on building for video.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

What are you going with instead?

[@Blazerrrrrrrrr]

Just get a zve1 or Nikon z6 iii

[@crashandrise]

Fwiw its slightly blown out of proportion. I never had a problem where i was like "I'm getting a canon/nikon next"

[@johnjon1823]

This video has an "Inside Llewyn Davis" vibe to it with some kind of John Belushi moves in the end. It's an odd in between realties environmental kind of feel. Kind of like a college bar where people kind of grew too old to be in the college bar, and yet not a college bar, but the people are too old to really be there, but they are there. Not arrested adolescence but aborted adulthood? Hard to describe the impressions. But thanks for the video, interesting shots. I found the update for stills on the x100VI much improved on initial use, but have to look into things more to say much. Best wishes!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

This comment is much deeper in meaning than my video. 😆

[@oregonduc]

It’s funny how they didn’t listen to you saying “I use my canon R5 for my pro jobs over the Fuji” paraphrasing. They still think you are a Fuji main when you are a canon main and actually say it in a video but yet they still think you are a Fuji main lol.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

People hear what they want to hear. And then some just click on the vid to leave a negative comment without watching at all lol

[@desibellsbeats]

eye tracking af works great in landscape but still sucks in portrait, don't ask me how

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Well at least it’s a step in the right direction lol

[@visionz_n_media]

I tested the latest firmware for the XH2 and there was a big improvement on AF performance. It’s still not the best but it’s noticeably more reliable. I never bought into Fujifilm for their AF performance but for their image quality, form factor and certain features. I’ve recently used a $10k Hassleblad setup that had equally or less reliable AF than the Fujifilm bodies that I own but I never hear Hasslblad owners complain. Having a product that is easily accessible by the masses, opens the door to critics that aren’t interested in learning the craft but are just gear focused. Not every camera is a universal tool, and you should know what tool is best for your intended use. You don’t grab an FX3 for portrait work, nor would you grab a Hassleblad for videography work.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thanks. This is a great perspective

[@nevvanclarke9225]

I updated both of my Fuji cameras the XT5 and the GFX 100 SII and I did notice a significant improvement. I was quite nervous which I've mentioned to you about upgrading the GFX 100S ii because that was actually working quite well but after seeing a few comments online and a few other people mentioned it to me that it was fine I was good to go. I think your video is very accurate. I think video shooters or content creators are going to struggle. I think it's gonna be fine for Talking Heads videos but for multi face type scenarios like weddings or events then the camera is going to struggle and then you've got a decision to make around. Is this the camera system you need to use for video but from a stills perspective and maybe I'm biased but I shoot stills mostly the camera is great. I was at a Christmas function with my family and I was just playing around taking some photos of the family and I was really impressed with how sticky the XT5 was again and I keep saying this to a lot of people one setting I do change and I would recommend you have a play with this. It's not always ideal in certain scenarios but pick one eye left or right what you'll find is that it then? Doesn't jump to the other eye it's not looking. It just settles on the left or the right eye. This is more ideal if the person is in front of you straight on obviously but that has some practical application applications. I do feel like the XT5 is now workable for this type of scenario around taking photos of portraits and so on which is good. I feel this time at least they took their time getting it right and we've now got a camera that's workable. I'm not one of those people as you know that's going to spit the dummy and carry on and whinge and moan. I will just find work around. Overall I've got to a point of acceptance and that acceptance phase is accepting that the camera is not perfect and then you can actually work with it as opposed to trying to make something perfect and getting angry about it is not gonna achieve anything you have to understand that every camera has strength and weaknesses for me. The image quality and colours out of Fuji far outweighs the fact that it doesn't focus all the time because I will just still get the shot somehow with the workaround tricks that I know but other people are purely looking at it from a focus perspective and I think that's dangerous because the camera probably is not going to suit you. Everything is a weigh up process.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

All is about compromise. I’ve noticed what you have in terms of the firmware too so that’s a step forward at least

[@nevvanclarke9225]

@PeteCocoPhoto yup heading in right direction!

[@OswaldoLafee]

Offended people offend me...thanks for the video

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Me too

[@martinphilipps8678]

i dont feel any improvement. i dont do videos, and hardly use AF-C. But today i used my x-t5 with the viltrox 85 1.8 and several times the camera didn't want to focus AT ALL. it didnt see the eyes and focused always on the bushes in the background. very disappointed

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I’m sorry to hear that. It seems like most people in the comments here are having better luck

[@chrisreist]

Funfact... the gfx have this shortmenu you can switch between differed faces.. but the x series doesn't .. haha fuji is so strange sometimes..

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

that's the kind of stuff that drives me nuts about the system. It should work the same on every camera. I don't know why they do it

[@chrisreist]

@@PeteCocoPhoto sadly most of the camera producers are the same. they force us to buy new cameras then fix there firmware...

[@ourtvchannel]

Using fuji for video is like using a chocolate teapot for making tea

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

😆😆😆 good point

[@awake780]

Haven’t upgraded from FW 2.10. Wondering if 4.10 is any better? I suspect the answer is no.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Probably not. This is an interesting question. The best answer I can give is if you’re happy with it don’t update lol

[@awake780]

@ thanks for the prompt reply. Seems like the right move. I own the Nikon Zf, and it’s notably better in AFC. Still love the 40 MP sensor, colors, and workflow from the Fuji so I’ll gladly keep it at 2.10 and use it for daytime travel/landscape. If I wanted perfection or was a working pro, I’d buy Sony or Canon. But hobby photography is more than technical perfection, and the Nikon/Fuji combo gets me user experience and pleasing results SOOC. PS. Don’t let the petulant children floating around here get under your skin.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@ haha thanks I try not to let them get to me

[@philippemariloussian5218]

Sorry to say that those kind of vlog concerning fujifilm autofocus update is the same since 10 years. Please stop saying there’s improvement but still room to get better because it still lack A LOT !!! Make it simple by comparing with Sony, canon, Nikon or else in the same range of camera then and only then we could appreciate improvement….or not. Again sorry to be that straight but it’s like a quiz that would say “ what is the difference between a duck ? “ 😂😂

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I was comparing it to itself. If you watched the vid I said it’s way behind my canon in af. But at this point I don’t think anyone is buying a Fuji for blazing fast af lol

[@robowen3450]

Thanks for another great video. Here’s my take on the whole AF issue. In 2 years of owning my X-T5 it’s never been in movie mode so my comments are limited to stills.Happy with the update, eye tracking seems stickier especially when on lock to a specific eye. Prior to Fuji I started my hobbyist journey with a couple of Sony APSC cameras and shot loads of pics of my newborn granddaughter with AF in auto and many were out of focus - newbie user error. Only when I switched to X-T4 and now X-T5 did I learn and understand the exposure triangle, helped by the dials. Now able to concentrate on other aspects of photography like focusing and improving steadily. This whole AF issue is starting to bore me. Simple answer - if the AF is bothering someone so much then move to a different brand and stop revisiting Fuji videos and whining. Secondly, Pete is a professional photographer who shares his experience at no cost or benefit to himself - if you don’t like the content then start your own channel and show us how to do it. Rant over

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Thank you! I am with you on this for sure

[@landoc13]

I appreciate all of this video but I “liked” this video for the jazz bass solo

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yes! I love that haha. The music is definitely much better than the silly video lol

[@wilduc7302]

Loads are people are so trigger happy….just take a deep breath and move on….btw I don’t even have a water pistol.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Haha

[@FocalChemistry]

Partially better would be an accurate description... Fuji is taking the P*ss of us customers...

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

They still need a lot of work in the af area

[@mortenthorpe]

No matter what Fuji does technically, they need to improve on communications! Just try and watch their Stockholm events from 2023 and any other release event… the Japanese/English is horrendous, and they deliver near zero value beyond what the slides in their presentations state

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Communication is key and they def need a lot of help there

[@canderson1955]

Could not agree more about the AF ‘tests’ on some KZbin channels. Nothing short of absurd to be honest. Just updated my Xt5 today and not yet used it. Updated my XH2s a couple of weeks ago and not had a chance to use that yet either. Fingers crossed they are both better but to be honest, I was satisfied before the upgrades so…. We will see.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

I think they have some value but all of this AF talk has become clickbait

[@jaegerschtulmann]

In all honesty shooting a video of a band performing is a challenge for any camera, you can’t expect the camera to know which person it should lock on unless you track that person. Best for those case scenarios is setting your camera’s aperture to f4 and focus manually on your subject, increase your ISO and clean up your files in post….this way at least you come with footage that is in focus and no pulsing/hunting. And if you want to shoot with AFC on video at let’s say f2 or f2.8 (the Hollywood standard aperture) just set your camera focus limiter around your subject and practice, practice!

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Point taken but remember I was specifically testing the af update.

[@jaegerschtulmann]

@ yeah totally understood your point, I was just leaving my comment for those who expect their cameras AF work in video without putting some thought into their settings and case scenario. Love your portrait work

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@ understood and thanks much 🙏🙏

[@HarperRacingBangkok]

Ignore the sh*t posters. People want you to think that the trouble they are having MUST be true for all cameras. It's not true. They are in a small minority.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

So true. And if you have a different experience than them, they call you a liar or shill

[@jw48335]

Fuji's kit is way too expensive for a crop sensor system with the worst AF behind everyone except Olympus. Most of the glass can't resolve the 40mpx either.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Many disagree with you. But FF prices continue to come down so I think you have a fair point

[@scottgray4877]

No…..

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yes…. Or at least maybe??? Lol

[@f.kieranfinney457]

Who shoots video with autofocus? Mount it on rods so you can use a matte box and a follow focus.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Tons of people for lots of different reasons

[@f.kieranfinney457]

Not any good ones.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@@f.kieranfinney457 ok then lol

[@dandanu2526]

From my point of view there is only a small improvement on AF-C...otherwise nothing has been improved...Fuji does not care about its users

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yeah that’s why I think it depends on what you shoot for sure. It’s gonna vary

[@Powerland56]

The whole discussion about the AF is completely overrated. It doesn't matter whether one camera can do something even better if the other can do it well enough in most cases. Or are we all BiF photographers now? And even there the Fujifilm delivers, even if not quite as perfectly as others. I'm talking about AF for photos here. There is nothing that an X-T5 and especially an X-H2s can't do confidently with more than enough sharp images. Unfortunately, the topic is good for clickbait and hundreds of bashers think they have to increase their self-esteem under such videos by making other things worse. Brave new internet world.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Yeah. I agree to a point. But Fuji made all this worse by talking up the af last year, not delivering and then making it worse.

[@MichaelFrederickPhoto]

Fuji AF is sorta like wanting to meet someone on an online dating app. Looks good online but total sh**show in person. ;)

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

😆😆😆

[@Pixelpeeps-69]

Still not good enough full stop

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

😂😂😂

[@fredschmidt8609]

I can tell you didn't start with the X-T1.

[@mainmain5303]

@@fredschmidt8609 I can tell you’re prehistoric.

[@Flavio.Bucciarelli]

Boring.....

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Happy New Year

[@Flavio.Bucciarelli]

@PeteCocoPhoto Happy New Year

[@mainmain5303]

This comment section is why Fuji will probably soon go out of business. And we will lose some great potential stuff forever. Incredibly egotistical. Wow. Incredibly egotistical. Has to, HAS TO, feel good about “my camera”.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

All I said in the vid was that it improved. And I said they have a ways to go and it’s still not near my Canon gear. And if it sucks that much it’s time for another brand. It’s that simple.

[@mainmain5303]

@ I’m coming from FW 2. It’s vastly worse. Updated because it specifically promised better AF.

[@mainmain5303]

@ Your R5 is 5 times better than this. Probably 10 times.

[@awake780]

Hahaha Fuji going out of business soon? Hilarious.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

@@mainmain5303 well I think you’ve got a point here. I went from 4.0 and it was an improvement.

[@mainmain5303]

1. You why are you being an apologist? Most KZbinrs know how to shoot. They are not noobs and you’re not god’s gift to photography. You don’t have to condescend at all to make whatever point you’re making if that point passes on its own merit. Isn’t it? Agree or disagree? 2. If those “stupid tests” are okay for a Sony Nikon or Canon, why are they bad to evaluate a Fuji? 3. I took out the Xt5 to shoot. It occasionally focuses on things for stills. Mostly misses. And on video the AF looks like a 2014 camera focusing with 1 step at a time. It’s stupid because THIS IS NOT THE CAMERA WE BOUGHT. This shite needs to stop. If this is adequate AF, don’t freaking come around and talk about how good the AF is when they launch the NEXT gen cameras with better AF. If this is good, any improvement should be no biggie. But this ain’t good at all. It’s the worst af I have ever used in last 6 years.

[@valerieb-o8g]

I think you are being utterly rude and should not vent your horrible feelings on Pete Coco’s extremely good channel. setup your own and rant on that.

[@PeteCocoPhoto]

Ok so clearly you didn't listen to what I said at all. You just wrote this comment after being triggered. I said that these running around vids do have some value, but they are NOT THE SAME as a real-world situation. At this point I'm not sure how people can't understand this.

[@mainmain5303]

@@PeteCocoPhotoPete if were to keep using Fuji professionally, Fuji heavy channels needs to trash the faak out of them. No, it’s not acceptable at this point and Fuji deserves a lawsuit against them. We all expect you to read the room and match the energy. No one’s a kid here. It’s a big disappointment when you’re not being explicit. Yes, I am finding it hard to go through the video because you’re nearly not vexed enough. I have a couple of important jobs tomorrow and day after. And I’m not touching the Xt5. I can’t if I am being responsible. What kind of brand do they want to be? Is this okay? It’s not! 5 mnts into your video, I am missing your loud shouts against this piece of shit FW which wrote during a drunken party. Or are they using ChatGPT. Who knows. It doesn’t show any seriousness or sincerity. The small description of the FW only shows how nonchalant they are. I expect are an apology note next time they attempt another FW update. How are you okay??? Maybe you’re loaded with truckloads of money. We are more humble I guess.

[@mainmain5303]

@valerieb-o8gDear lovely tolerant person, kindly grow up. You don’t have to bat for Pete, if he’s good. Also, stop that subtle hero worship. It’s not good for your personality.

[@mainmain5303]

@@PeteCocoPhotoAlso, a real world wedding situation is VASTLY more complicated than a guy walking up and down in the front of a camera in nice light and no distractions. If it fails there, it is brainless to take it for a complex lighting and composition situation where people are hugging, dancing, greeting and opening champagne bottles. Naah.