Will The New Etrian Odyssey Origins Collection Be Worth $80?

I check out the new trailer for Etrian Odyssey Origins for the first time to comment on some of the changes and if this is a good way to jump in if you've never played the series before or are a returning veteran player to the series. $40 each game or $80 for all 3 is a bit steep for digital games, let's see if the changes are worth it...
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[@eddieh299]

Pete, stop playing with my emotions being all consistent again. I was just in the middle of taking a nap to your last sleeping with Pete video. Now I gotta wake up to watch this.

[@Darkkfated]

EO fan reporting in from the future to clarify those menu options: 8:50 There are 3 Battle speeds settings - Animation is the speed the battles play at if you just set the controller down. "A Button Skip" is how much faster the animations play if you - wait for it - hold the A button down. Auto Battle is how fast animations play if/when you enable auto-battle. Auto-battle confirmation means that, when you hit the auto-battle button (default is Left Bumper), the game will ask "are you SURE you want to turn on Auto-battle?" if you set this to "Yes". This keeps you from accidentally starting up the auto-battle with a stray bump of L1, which can lead to very bad things happening in, say a Boss or FOE fight. Command confirmation means that, after the 5th and final party member's action has been selected, the game will ask "are you SURE you want to start the next combat round?" if you set this to "Yes." This is useful because it's really easy to input the wrong command for your 5th Party Member (who is almost always your Healer) and then Bad Things go down because you accidentally told your Medic to Run or Defend instead of tossing out that clutch heal. 9:30 For the auto-mapping options: "Off" is for true masochists. The game won't even "paint" the floors you've walked on. You have to paint every floor, draw every wall, drop every icon. "On" is the default. The game will auto-paint the floor for you as you walk along, but it's still up to you to fill in the walls and drop icons. "Full" will paint the floors AND draw the walls, but you still have to drop icons (for stuff like Doors or Gathering spots or Shortcuts). It does NOT give you a map as soon as you enter a new floor. It does NOT auto-discover Events or Shortcuts for you. Also, for EO veterans, you are seeing that correctly: the later games' auto-run option is now available in all three games! "Normal" means you can walk faster by holding "B", "Fast" means you'll go faster by default, but if you want to you can hold "B" to walk instead. Even if the "big map" is minimized while exploring, there is always a mini-map shown in the upper right corner. This mini-map also appears on the battle screen, so you can see if FOEs are creeping up on you during a random battle (seen at 13:00). 13:30 There was NOT an option to check the enemies' stats in-battle. You could only do it from the Government building (Radha Hall, Duke's Palace, Via Senatus), which meant you had to write it all down or have a Wiki handy. Being able to see this in-battle started in the 3DS era and is being back-ported to the original trilogy for this remaster. They also made the Skill Trees for the classes a visual skill tree rather than a vertical text dump, making it SO MUCH EASIER to see all the prerequisites for each Class' advanced skills. The game are still horrendously overpriced - the collection giving you all three for $27 each the only semi-reasonable-but-not-really option here, paying $40 for a 10-year-old DS game with some QOL features and blown-up artwork is ludicrous. However, I'm an idiot and EO is one of my favorite series of ALL. TIME. so you better believe I pre-ordered the $80 "bundle" on Steam the second I found out about it. I'm willing to support Atlus by overpaying for this collection, and by extension saying "please give me EO 3 Untold, EO 6, and/or EO 4&5 HD on Steam, I will pay through the nose for them", but I know that's *not* going to be true for a lot of people. You have to REALLY like Dungeon Crawlers specifically for this to be worthwhile.

[@aaronpischke5019]

Pete, all of your recent uploads have been so wonderful to watch! I appreciate you so much and hope you're doing well! 😸

[@LynxxLancer]

I love how you can check enemy weaknesses now similar to how it works in Shin Megami Tensei.

[@Odinarcade00]

This game is the only jrpg I have found that’s this deep. It’s crazy.

[@TurntUpTurtles]

been loving all the new uploads as of late. thanks as always Pete!

[@Paddy_Panic]

As someone who has been watching your videos since 2010 and was there for every episode of All Gen Gamers, it’s great to see you have so many videos lately. Hell, I still remember one AGG episode where you were excited for Etrian Odyssey III.

[@RepentJesusIsGod]

been watching you sense i was a teen . Really happy to see the daily uploads. Hope you keep it up . Thanks for the vids

[@daltonbolser5100]

another pete vid!!! hell yeah keep em coming!!! been watching since 2008!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@marcwav]

So happy you're uploading regularly!

[@hammahead101]

Thank you for the video Pete!

[@patrouski]

SO MUCH PETE RECENTLY

[@TheBestDayEver3]

I still can't believe you're back. Warms the heart - truly. Each video is like taking a step back in time...and I love it. Keep it coming Big Pete!

[@Knuxsega]

Always a good day with a petedorr upload

[@SHUPIRATE1991]

Hey Peter love the discussion. I played “one” on the DS and honestly I did not give it enough attention. I preordered this collection to give it my full attention.

[@novelezra]

I will buy this when it's on sale; but considering this is a Japanese game that may be a while. I've noticed on Steam that certain publishers hate reducing their games. Atelier Ryza 1 has been out for years and they have never reduced the price to anything reasonable for how old it is.

[@tanmayoken159]

Atelier Ryza every year , only sale 50% 🤣

[@pickflip4429]

Keep the vids coming!

[@QueenViolet8]

I’ve got mine pre ordered from Play Asia 🥰 I’m looking forward to it ‼️my first game was the 2nd game for the DS and I made sure to play all the others the only one I missed was the Mystery Dungeon !

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

10:41 so basically what it's saying is that 'on' will just fill in the floor tiles you step on. Full will also fill in the walls when you walk next to them. Untold did the same thing.

[@Kyllen]

thank you for saying not to look up guides. it's so much more fun playing turned based games without any guides, any broken DLC, etc.

[@stephen_ne8406]

Pete is back!!!

[@Jordan_Cooper698]

Keep it up Pete!

[@-DeScruff]

Personally I don't understand what they are doing with this font in the English version. - Context: For some really strange reason the English and Japanese versions of the game have different fonts. Even for UI elements that were already in English. (Attack, Skill, Item exc). The Japanese version the text looks a lot more like the 3DS games. A lot of us who have been paying attention for a while have been wondering if the previous trailers were just using some placeholder font, but no... Its really weird.

[@Farrell81]

Damn 4 videos in a row? It a Dorr-Mas miracle.

[@tracidvoyager]

Awesome news, sold my (3)DS so being able to replay these (and hopefully DS Shin Megami Tensei titles in the future) is gonna be a treat. Did you ever play Wizardry 8 Pete? I seem to recall you showcasing the DVD or big box case for it in one of your old videls, that one has one of the most satisying party building systems in any dungeon crawler or RPG ever imo, so many classes and the custom voices add so much personality. And the combat system is so satisfying. I've played thru that game like 4 times, once on Iron Man mode

[@hockeyhacker97]

Yeah I would love to see more SMT games remastered and released on modern hardware, maybe with some of the QoL changes added over the series life put into the older games, like sure Persona series is great, STM 3 is good, and Devil Survivor is as well, so is Soul Hackers 2, but there are a shit ton of other great games in the SMT universe both of the main line and of all the spin off sub series. While not the greatest sub series, the one I hope they touch into next of remaking is the Devil Survivor sub series since it is the most different that doesn't have that modern of a remake yet unlike Persona, Dev il Summoner, and main line ( I mean yeah Devil Children/Demikids hasn't seen a western release since the Gameboy advance but there are plenty of other games similar to that style where as Survivor is more unique)

[@jobojoe1]

The stat screen is new and yes very useful!

[@donaldxavier2056]

I pre ordered the physical version through play asia a while back. I cannot wait for this to come out! First person dungeon crawlers have become one of my favorite genres. I hope the games sell well because they really need to make more games like this.

[@flatcapman]

I agree. Atlus is on a roll with their range and I am hoping it doesnt just end like some other companies. Who knows? parts 4-6 MIGHT get a HD remake as well. You never know

[@rustyshackleferd22]

I would really love a video hearing your thoughts on this release now that it’s out

[@THELEGENDARYK2]

Might have to play this with graph paper so i can go wide-screen.

[@Mito383]

I just finished playing Etrian Odyssey 1 (not the post game) and it took me 47 hours to beat. Definitely worth $40 imo. Plenty of things to do.

[@SLtheFMAYT]

I really appreciate this deep dive Pete. I have a couple of the games on DS, but I'm still very interested in this collection. I'm curious if the FF Pixel Remaster collection price played any role in how this collection price came about. Maybe Atlus thought they could get away with it.

[@flatcapman]

its mostly top dollar for the good stuff

[@DakovP]

Never played it but listen to the music from the first game which is mostly great.

[@a2sblizzard]

Keep uploading but don't get burned out..... but keep uploading... we all love your videos. No matter what it's about!

[@adamdam]

I have this pre ordered on Playasia and looking forward to playing this series for the first time, enjoyed Persona Q so hopefully I'll enjoy this too.

[@johnsmith-jw1do]

This is the best JRPG series. Amazing vibe and battle design.

[@hockeyhacker97]

13:30... Honestly I don't remember either but I think maybe it was something that was added into later games and since this is a remake with less limitations due to better hardware they decided to add some of the quality of life things that got added in later games into these remakes, I know a lot of remade games do that where they keep the game mostly faithful to the original but add in the QoL updates that happened over the series because they know not having those QoL changes drives away anyone who doesn't have nostalgia for the old games because they are use to having those QoL features from the games they had played.

[@theoryjoe1451]

Assuming you can map with the mouse is the main reason I pre-ordered for PC instead of switch. I hope the mapping is done well.

[@Hideyuki_Atago]

I've only played starting 2, but i'm planning on buying the full thing physical edition especially since the store I buy from if I buy day 1 they give me the pre order bonus as well which is a plus because preordering from them don't really matter, they don't make you pay money they just go "Alright" Come collect it anytime but we may still sell it to someone else

[@TheMountainman14]

Ok boys I’ll start if off… room tour!?!?!😂❤️

[@spinoodii]

Playing through demon gaze i saw a guy comparing the 2 on a forum. Do you think they're comparable because i love demon gaze

[@ericmcclenahan3885]

Yea I feel like I’m being tormented forcing to watch this but I’m confused if I’m gonna take the bullet should I just buy the first one ? Or 2 & 3 better I feel like I bought this and I have it number 4 but gave it to my younger brother

[@LeetTron5000]

the auto battling comfimation is a yes or no question that comes up when you hit auto battle. Basically a fail safe if you hold your ds like a goon and accidentaly auto battle a turn to get decimated.

[@gabejva6071]

I’m in a Pete Dorr YT fever dream and I love it. 🎉

[@stupidbluebird]

i've been playing this every night in bed since release. etrian odyssey were my go-to games between classes in college so this has been a fun return for me. a physical release would have made the $80 feel like more of a value.

[@lolidayo]

You're the best Pete 👌

[@cktoma89]

4 videos in 4 days. Holy jesus on a motorbike. Christmas is early this year! :) Are you maybe gonna do a games i've been playing or a pickups video? :) I miss those!

[@pinglefingle]

definitely going to wait until they're on sale

[@Jonnicom]

I preordered a Physical copy through PlayAsia because it seems to be the only way to get an playable english physical cart. That was 70 dollars at the time. Never played them before, so I'm all in.

[@Fizggig]

Yeah thats what I grabbed the multi language version. Unfortunately the only way to obtain.

[@classicalthrasher]

I did so as well, and have all the physical games for ds and 3ds. Have played the old ones on DS the last few years. Will never stop playing 3DS just because it's "dead", but I wanted all of them again for the Switch. Playasia preorder. Do play on hardest as the gentleman states, and form a party that you enjoy and makes sense to you (not a gamefaqs "power party", following blindly "Let's Play Etrian Odyssey" recommendations, etc.-he is spot on above in this regard. Also "trap skills" have their use, unless you mess up skill selection in the party as a whole. No need to select all combat skills to conquer the game, and some of the "bad" combat skills are fun. They are difficult, but really not impossible.

[@andrewlopez7009]

Pete is the GOAT!

[@horroRomantic444]

I am willing to bet we will get a physical game. It will probably be the first $70 game from Sega/Atlus.

[@FloatingShorts]

I paid the 70 bucks for a JP version which is cheaper that Steam and it's not region locked, but apparently there isn't going to be a physical release for the West so far. I've been planning on playing this for awhile and I'm not paying 3DS prices for them.

[@16xthedetail76]

No only asia is getting an english release.

[@horroRomantic444]

@@FloatingShorts It could be like the Sonic Origins situation.

[@AceaIvalia]

EO1 did let the tiles colour automatically. Automap full was introduced in... EO4? And by full, they mean tiles + walls. Very Fast basically turns animations off :P Auto-Battle was in EO2 and onward. They just use normal attacks so it's not the best. In-battle codex entry with this level of detail was introduced with EO2U, and then stayed in EO5/Nexus. This is indeed new addition for EO1~EO3 HD Remaster in that sense.

[@nodot17]

Iirc eo 1-3 had the tiles you walked on be colored in but not the walls. So you could get the floor layout that way if you don't mind a few extra encounters

[@nodot17]

Oh wait that wasn't a question nvm😅

[@skeleton608]

I really want to pick this up because I have every Japanese version of the series, both DS and 3DS versions, and even Japanese art books and guide for 4, 5 and X. But unfortunately I’m unemployed now and I don’t think I can in good conscience get this on release. I hope it doesn’t sell out fast and get really expensive 😢

[@YouareAToy582]

I hope you get job soon

[@MrJeb123]

I don't think they are actually making physical releases anyway. I tried multiple times to go into the store and get a preorder for physical release and they said it didn't exist. So you should be good getting digital whenever money allows 😊. Good luck with the job hunt

[@skeleton608]

@@YouareAToy582 Thanks! I just found out I got into a grad school program in the fall so I at least don’t have to worry finding a full time position now. Can just pick up some part time stuff for now

[@skeleton608]

@@MrJeb123 There’s a physical release in Japan, and I live in Asia so it wouldn’t be too hard to procure a copy if I wanted to spend the money. One of the preorder sets comes with a touchpen for switch

[@retrig202]

Hi Pete. You mentioned part way through the black outline of the mobs. I don't believe that was in the DS / 3DS games. The only reason I am commenting is that that kind of art style with the black outlines screams mobile game to me, and it's a huge turn off. The mobs don't feel "grounded" in the game, and stand out too much from the background. It makes the game look cheap in my opinion, and is a result of bumping up the background detail, but not putting the same amount of love into the mobs. I'll still be buying them day 1 (I have them on 3DS), though. Great video.

[@dashoot99]

Hi Pete: I saw this on the eshop last week and it caught my attention as I had heard of the series but never played it. But, when I saw it was $40 per game I thought that was a bit steep and I would need to do more research first. So, I appreciate the video. I’m still on the fence but if I do purchase I am likely to try it on “picnic” mode as I’m concerned the difficulty you mentioned might frustrate me and cause me to move on to something else.

[@levleone4045]

The first few dungeons are never *that* bad, so Normal difficulty would be a fine way to test the waters also. Tho I'd still place Etrian 4 as the best for beginners in terms of Difficulty and QoL (picnic or not). Have a good one either way.

[@DerTendou]

The good thing is that SEGA is the publisher and unlike Nintendo the eshop sales for SEGA games are most of the time really good.

[@Gamingwithahandicap]

Pete bring back Sonic Collectible reviews! :)

[@newhope33]

I bought them all when they originally released they're all good games and pretty pricey now so ya the collection is worth it if you want to play them.

[@jonnyfendi2003]

Have you played dungeon travelers 2. It is like this game but very addicting and very hard boss battles. Some almost impossible. People are going nuts now that 2-2 is being brought over to the west but the company bringing it over is shady.

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

1:38 games these days are around 60 to 80 bucks, so that sounds like a great deal.

[@eXtremeLink859]

I'm tempted to just play these games on the DS/3DS, being able to play on a modern console would be nice but man that price is steep. happy to see another vid Pete!

[@jeffreycharest9093]

Maybe at 50 or less but definitely not 80 unfortunately. So many awesome videos lately man. Thanks so much.

[@anom5389]

There is too Pete an Asian physical release for $70 for Switch. Of course it will end up being $80 with tax and shipping, but still Im personally getting it because all 3 of these games were $40 brand new when they came out on the ds, so really it is kind of a deal buying all 3 for 80 when u think about it that way. Plus if you wanna buy the ds games now theyre over $100 each complete so yeah. Would I like it to be a $40 release for the collection? Yeah. But as games move to digital only it will give publishers the power to price games whatever they want.

[@Odinarcade00]

I’m upset about the price. It’s priced higher in America than Asian territories. However my lame ass will still be getting this. This game is the only reason I own or have owned Nintendo consoles for the last decade. Surprise it’s not Zelda! Anyone is crazy for playing this on the highest difficulty though lmao ehhhh dungeon mapping was cool but tedious. The thing that pulled me in was the gameplay other than the mapping. The mapping itself would not pull me into it but the leveling system does. Edit: with my first few minutes of the game the worst thing I noticed is they bothered to put dlc portraits but did not bother to use the cool animations from the 3ds versions. That’s very unfortunate. These new 2d enemy portraits are very sad compared to what we had on 3ds. That being said they are serviceable and much better than what other old school dungeon crawlers offer. I’m not sure what other people think but for 90 dollars we should have gotten the better enemy models

[@ryankrenisky6178]

pretty sure you had to farm the enemy a bunch of times to get all their information and what they drop

[@LJ7000]

Okay I'm wondering why they priced it so high because this would not have cost them 'much' to release. It's not a new game. Graphics have been upgraded but that is not commensurate with the price of a fully newly made game.

[@Dragonk116]

80$ is a bit much, I love the series but that's a lot of money... Not even the MegaMan.exe collection released for THAT much money and you get like 10 games for 60 bucks! But 3 remastered games for 80 dollars? Err..... Idk.... I might wait for a sale for that price.

[@flatcapman]

its better then paying the same for Sonic Origins plus then have to download a code. I am fine with this but it doesnt fly with everyone

[@Xeno0207]

Love these games but the price feels a bit steep...feel like the cost of FF pixel remaster was pricy and that was 6 games included vs 3....think theyre taking advantage of the rarity of these, tho i will say, if ur a pirate u can get them easily 🤣

[@PrimeNEET]

of course I just caved and bought this on the ds 😂😂

[@Anonymous-x1x]

Yeah. I disagree, I dropped this series multiple times before I got tips on classes and play styles. Before that I was beating my head against a wall, now I can't put these games down.

[@megamob5834]

This is a series I’m familiar with by name only. I am curious about it, but that price point is definitely kinda scaring me away..

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

Whether it's worth it or not, it's coming out on my birthday. So I don't have to pay a cent for it.

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

The changes don't seem special, though. It's just adding the features from the Untold games.

[@Bobby8451]

EASY MODE! That's me. Nobody probably cares, just thought I'd throw that out there. Lol Whats the total playtime to the end on average???

[@jelbo777]

The HD graphics look great but I'm still not quite sold on how mapping works.

[@franciscobutte]

And the new font is horrid.

[@jet17907]

So far, the most I'll do is keep them on my switch wishlist. if they drop in price, I might bite 😀

[@TheSalamanderMenace4]

1 and 2 are better on 3ds arent they Pete? They're the untold versions, these are the originals.

[@PeteDorr]

I guess it depends if you want the ability to play on the TV with the new "HD" resolutions and quality of life improvements.

[@yoso378]

The untold games do have some issues in classic mode from what I've heard, but I can only speak personally about untold 1. Untold 1 has story mode only areas that are done in between sections of the main dungeon, and the entire game's level/ difficulty curve takes these areas into account. Since you don't visit these areas in classic mode it leads to noticable difficulty jumps in areas that you don't get in story mode. Untold 2 I've heard fixed this issue but had a different one. Apparently the story mode exclusive classes can pump out way more damage compared to the regular classes and boss HP is balanced for the story mode party.

[@franciscobutte]

Fan of the series here. But I can't imagine to play it outside the DS or 3DS systems. It was conceived for them.

[@mosesh06]

Sega/Atlus best

[@scottmichaelhedge5055]

No thanks, I'll stick to the original DS version.

[@Gathbard]

Personally I preordered on Steam Deck because it’s still cheaper than buying EO III for Ds (the only game in the series I don’t own). With that said, the price is pure robbery.

[@MikoYotsuya292]

While I'm looking forward to it, the price is indeed pretty steep. If it was $80, but they included _all_ the EO main games, then I would had instantly recommend buying it.

[@Artimes.]

2:41 Brutal in what way Peter? As far as im concerned rpgs are not difficult, they just require patience and preseverence and as long as you have that, you can pretty much beat any rpg game. Unless you mean something else entirely like navigating the first person dungeons like the original Megami Tensei games which in that case they are more frustrating then brutal.

[@yoso378]

They are kinda difficult in the way SMT games are in that you are expected to use buffs and debuffs to lock enemies out of using their strong skills, plan out your party growth carefully, be mindful about weakness/ resistances, etc.

[@tomatopawah6877]

4:35 That's just terrible advice, there are so many skills that are objectively bad and a waste of skill points. "Sense of accomplishment" isn't the same as resting characters over and over again because you picked a trap skill.

[@jermaineh4664]

🤦 Promo-SM

[@estebanjimenezdelgado]

not helping

[@marcrics]

Yeah that price point is terrible. I was interested as a casual to the series (but still know enough about it) until I saw that price. If I feel like that then a lot of new comers are just gonna skip it. Releasing so close to Zelda at a higher price point just makes me feel this title will be brushed aside and be skipped over by many sadly.