Peter Farrell Says I'm Teaching WRONG!

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[@LeviClay]

Peter is the biggest douche in the game. The screenshots I've been sent by people boggle the mind. I've EVEN heard that George actually isn't involved with him any more. You ever think it's odd that George has never promoted Peter's products when (at the prices being charged) you'd expect him to make a nice bit of money? When I confronted Peter about this, he freaked out and blocked me.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Hey Levi! He's talking about you too on his latest 3hr+ livestream today! Guess it's a club now 😂

[@LeviClay]

@@ChaseMaddox hahaha fabulous. I love living rent free in these clowns minds. Here's the truth. Peter is a great player. And his teaching materials are solid. BUT.... his main strategy as a teacher is trying to tell you why all the other teachers suck. That makes him a piece of trash. If he was humble and PART of the community... we'd all lift him up, because his work is cool... but unfortunately he doesn't respect his peers OR his customers. I hope he's SUPER rich. Because nothing would hurt more than having all the success, but none of your peers respect!

[@LeviClay]

@@PeterFarrellGuitar awww bless, are you gonna freak out and block me on here too? Whatever you gotta do to stay relevant I guess. If anyone wants Peter’s PDFs, hit me up! 🤙

[@richmalloy2308]

Douche seems like the appropriate adjective. Anyone who goes off with name calling online is the lowest of low.

[@dennisn.9583]

Can you share the pdfs?

[@victormusic01x]

..Chase, it’s Victor in New York bro..wow, this dude is whack and doesn’t understand what playing music is about..dissing other musicians who can actually play, have put in a lot of time and effort to get to where they are, and are sharing their knowledge and expertise of their instrument professionally is the lowest..unacceptable Keep on keeping on doing what you are doing Chase, I for one really appreciate what you’re doing on YT here..I went to Berklee many years ago and then didn’t play for almost 20 years because of drugs and being on the street..I had to relearn from 0..and the material that you and other honest and generous folks have uploaded has been a great help Thanks man

[@ChaseMaddox]

I'll keep it up! Glad to help 👍

[@frankforke]

I'm a professional jazz guitarrist and singer. I like your content and have learned from it! Thank's for your good work. Controversy is unfortunately very common on social media so it's importante to stay positive - as I see you do!

[@willarddickerson921]

I have been relearning from 0 a well. I stopped for 43 years. I want to play beyond what I was doing in the 70s. This guy is helping me with that. In honor of my late father, I want to master bebob Jazz Guitar.

[@ronniemurdoch7922]

Well said Sir

[@edwardjons8684]

Peter Farrell has a track record for this kind of behaviour. A dreadful teacher with a toxic attitude. I gave up on him a couple of years ago when I saw him giving this kind of grief to another teacher who dared to step into teaching some of Benson’s concepts. He appears to believe he owns these ideas and is quick to shut down anyone else who tries to help students. Weirdly jealous character.

[@ChaseMaddox]

He does unfortunately.

[@coleplaysjazz4716]

Me too as well i asked him a question and he just wanted to argue.

[@cardoma]

Peter is technically very good as a guitar player, but he can’t teach. It’s as simple as that.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Some people seem to get value from his approach. My approach is very different in method and style.

[@stevenjaywalters]

Yes, very bad form from Peter Farrell. If he has any class at all, an apology would be in order.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Haha he's demanding an apology and respect from me 😂

[@tonydarren5254]

Apparently of all the things that Peter learned from George, acting with grace, humility and being a gentleman clearly was not among them.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Clearly!

[@dsliceable]

Chase, you are a good soul and very gifted. Your response is based on calmness and clarity. Keep on keeping on Brother 🤙🏾💜

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! Will do! 🙏

[@Pastas666]

Why he is so mad with you lol Is he mad because you don't charge 150 dollars for a book ? xD

[@thesuncollective1475]

He thinks he Nikki Minaj😂😂

[@Pastas666]

@@thesuncollective1475 This dude is charging the double than people like Kurt Rosenwinkel 😂😂 who are actually masters not students of a master 😂😂😂

[@victormusic01x]

@@Pastas666 …right on!..serious fronting by that fool PF..as if he was Benson’s clone..”not the master but a student of the master”..love it!

[@Pastas666]

@@anneonym7346 what??? did he really criticized BIRELI ? didn't even know that xD the audacity of this man 😂😂😂

[@Pastas666]

@@anneonym7346 Didn't know that very weird xD He gives me cult vibes 🤣

[@jimmyc5498]

I wouldn’t even break a sweat re Peter. The name calling is obviously his frustration and poor judgement. Your material was excellent, and I check out everybody. You’re also a better communicator. I’ve toured, done clinics for Marshall and playing 40+ yrs. Keep doing your thing.

[@karlstephenne6299]

I totally agree.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I will keep doing my thing!

[@jimmyc5498]

@@ChaseMaddox awesome. Love the topics and looking forward to the late great Pat Martino stuff.

[@tolgaguven3467]

Farrell seems to think that he is the Barry Harris of jazz guitar educators. Too bad no one else on the planet shares that thought, lol. And calling your competitors "assholes" is not exactly the best marketing strategy either. But it is certainly very descriptive of his own character. And it is also very unfortunate that Benson chose such an insecure guy as his disciple.

[@Pastas666]

Farrell seems to think that he is the Barry Harris and charges wayyyyy more than ever Barry Harris did for his dvd masterclass

[@foxybrown2]

@@Pastas666 You said that right i checked to see how much private lesson were and they were like 6 grand

[@ChaseMaddox]

I think he reveals himself 🤷‍♂️

[@mwpv11]

Farrell says he is a disciple of Benson but I have to wonder if Benson knows what his disciple is doing. I am sure he would not approve of such conduct. Maybe Farrell thinks a rift among teachers will gain him popularity. It might on a game show or a reality TV show but will definitely not in the jazz world.

[@joeBloggs-yo6jw]

@@mwpv11 had the same thoughts... pretty sure George would not approve.

[@ronaldburke2857]

Hello Chase, I've been performing on guitar since the 60s and studied theory from an excellent professor at California State University at San Diego. I've bought and studied many guitar methods by many jazz guitarists and books of transcriptions of jazz greats. I say all that because I have seen many ways of analyzing music that are all good, even though they have different ways of seeing and explaining things. Some like Joe Pass really sees things from a simple point of view even though what he finally plays can be as complicated as anyone. Your analysis is always spot on and it gives a standard, complete harmonic analysis based on the chords and or keys. That way gives the learner foundation on which to build his understanding. I love Benson, as we all do, and when I saw Peter's posts I thought this would be great to learn more about Benson's style. Instead I found a guy who has great technique and really knows knows how to play Benson's style. But, I have never seen such a guitarrist at his level being so poor at showing what he seems to know. Judging his KZbin posts makes me lose any interest in buying any of his methods. Not only are his explanations lacking, but then he often just skates over the phrases he is teaching without giving time to the learner to comprehend and learn the phrase. Was it Einstein who said "If you cannot explain simply what you know, you don't really understand it". Peter may understand Benson's playing, but he seems to not understand very well harmonic theory. Which makes what I have seen of his explanations of harmony incomprehensible. I would guess his attacks are his way of defending himself from comments from guys who say they don't understand him, but they understand guys like you.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment and support!

[@zdxing]

He just wants to sell his courses, so he deliberately makes you unable to learn, causing you to buy the courses

[@valmontsibbo]

The most important thing is Chase, you have the ability to translate complex ideas and relate them it in a usable structured way to your subscribers! They can fully then fully understand and be able to play these concepts and use plus enjoy them. I would love to see you get to 1 million subscribers plus . You always make great contributions to musicians period!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! Maybe one day we'll get there!

[@floaty10]

Wow, GB suddenly became Baron Harkonnen and the two brothers fighting over spicy CMaj.

[@ChaseMaddox]

LOL! 😂

[@donnycee]

Farrell, big on ego, small on teaching ability. Goes a long way with me for you to take the high road and not to buy into the drama. All of your lessons are grade A and thanks!!! for sharing your knowledge ❤

[@Guitarsuphu]

Farrell money hunger he charges instructional material like an arm and the leg! just go to his website and see for yourself!

[@ChaseMaddox]

My pleasure! 🙏

[@bingefeller]

Peter's remarks are at odds with what he told me in a Facebook message after I asked him about the price of his PDF and about being a student of George Benson's. Peter said, and I quote, "respect people if you want respect !!!" "That’s they way we work my friend. Stop with this hate. You don’t need it. If you don’t like that’s fine". "but if you allow me to give you a suggestion i would say : don't judge people's work". "if you don't like leave it behind." It looks like he should follow his own advice and "stop with this hate"!

[@mjpslim]

I saw your video of the secret 2 chords about how Benson uses it . And I’ve watched some of his videos as well . Not going to dis Peter but if he’s mad it’s because you explained Bensons idea way better and CLEARER

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching the video!

[@eblue9620]

Chord substitution is a fundamental idea in any jazz instruction, not a secret, not invented by George Benson. Anybody that's willing to discuss that idea with learners is welcome.

[@phinestro]

dont take this personal Chase. If George Benson is watching this.. HE WONT APPROVE THIS HATE. EVERYONE CAN LEARN AND GROW! SO CONTINIUE TO GROW!!

[@boliston2354]

Sorry to see this flare up between two very talented teachers / musicians. Chase, I enjoyed your video on the secret of two chords, even if it wasn't techincally what George or Peter meant by it- your explanations always are crystal clear and helpful. I did go and check out Peter's videos, and I must say, even if his style is not as clear and didactic as yours, I really appreciate a lot of what he says about the importance of storytelling as opposed to getting needlessly lost in the chord changes. I think there's room for the two of you, and we are all the winners.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Glad you enjoyed the video! Unfortunately it's not the first time he's come after me like that...

[@boliston2354]

Yeah, not cool. Your response, though, was very classy.

[@adamtullymusic]

Crystal clear, Chase. Thanks for explaining your approach to your teaching career. It’s honest and transparent, just like your videos and materials. Keep taking the high road because you’re making a positive impact.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks Adam! That's the goal!

[@nongkhiew]

Your 2 chords types lesson was great and I wish I watched it much sooner. It helped me a lot thanks. I'll get back to your channel for more content. Don't pay too much attention to Peter Farrell and keep doing your thing.

[@tshepomasango1483]

What comes first the music or the theory? The music of course, the “theory” is simply an “explanation” of the relationship between the various notes that constitute the music you are listening to. I assume Chase’s video was inspired by Rick Beato’s interview with George Benson. In the interview George Benson clearly states that he condensed the four chords (major, minor diminished and augmented) to two (major and minor) to simplify his thinking while soloing. At (1:12:23) he clearly states the following. “I condensed those down to two, so I don't have to worry about four. I only worry about two, so that gives me an advantage. I can move faster and I know that I ain’t got to search for nothing, where’s the 4th now, you know, where's the raised five. I don't have to think about that. It is either major or minor depending on where you're putting it and where the melody note is.” So Peter takes years of listening to George Benson and then claims he has discovered part of the “secret” to George’s unique lines emanating from his incredible musical DNA. He calls it “The Secret of the Two Chords” which simply put, in George’s own words, are major chords and minor chords (as well as their respective superimpositions and substitutions). But this is only part of a well-known theory that has been out there for ages. It is called the Theory of Functional Harmony which describes the relationship between chords in music. And of course it is NOT limited to two chords only! Chase placed his interpretation neatly within that framework whereas Peter claims he “created” the concept of the “secret of two chords” and has exclusive ownership regarding its use. How very sad!! Does Peter not realise that we all share and use the same body of knowledge. Charlie Parker does not stand up in his grave and say “how dare you use that bebop line of mine, I created it. You aren’t qualified to show or teach it to anybody!” Keep up the good work Chase and thanks for sharing!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment and the reference to the Beato interview with Benson that I'm referring to 👍

[@tshepomasango1483]

@@ChaseMaddox Always a pleasure. Thanks for editing and hugs to Ramona 😎

[@Mrfabby1972]

By the same token, the musicians in the Bop Era were extremely competitive with one another. If they knew a peer of there's was in the crowd they would try and angle away from them so they couldn't cop what they were doing. It's nice that you don't see drummers throwing cymbals at fellow musician's heads anymore LOL.

[@nickschuller9861]

This Peter guy seems like a complete unhinged guitar nut. He’s got the “tough guy” attitude and mouth. Real turn off as an artist. He obviously has a self entitled view as to his Benson “expertise”as the ultimate and only interpretation. Get over it. Finally his style in shirts says it all. 😂 Love your content Chase keep up the great work.

[@ChaseMaddox]

lmao I laughed at the comment about "his style in shirts says it all" 😂

[@marcusnoel5264]

I haven't seen P. Farrell's post/stream, but I recall a previous similar incident regarding your perspective on George Benson's technique. It comes across as very UNPROFESSIONAL on P. Farrell's part. I'm curious to know if George Benson, himself, approves of such an unprofessional representation of his work, reputation, & legacy.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Don't waste the 3+hrs watching it unless you get some entertainment value out of it lol.

[@marcosarnabal4395]

Peter is a great guitar player and his method is really fantastic. I think he shouldnt have taken it personally against you, but everybody who is seriously interested in jazz guitar should check it out

[@valmontsibbo]

This video nails it for me, your secret 2 chord explanation and how to use this approach on standards is brilliant and thank you. I also admire the way you deal with the abuse Peter has givens you. Having read all the comments, I think collectively they are firmly behind you plus your great teaching,explanation and application. In my opinion you are without doubt the best online guitar teacher .

[@ChaseMaddox]

I really appreciate you saying that 🙏

[@robfirestone6158]

That’s kind of absurd: “greatest online guitar teacher”. He is really a good teacher but jazz guitar is one small slice of the guitar world.

[@phasemod]

As I posted on Peter's video: > We're all just grouping the tonic (I, III-, and VI-), the subdominant (II- and IV), and dominant (V and VIIo) harmonic relationships due to shared notes. Yes, we can all feel these because of our shared intuition for the harmonic series, which is a gift to us all. And of course there are the tensions, which makes everything even more ambiguous, interchangeable, and wonderful. Couple all of that with the redundancies and positioning of the guitar. Great. You're definitely not the first person to come across or collect these ideas, neither is George Benson, as if that even mattered. That said, if we had gotten material directly from someone, it's good to cite them. To be clear, I'm not implying that you had. Let's not beef, people. If you feel like someone doesn't have something right, you can always ask, "Hey, are you sure that's right? I don't feel like you're emphasizing the right things. Can I show you how I see it?" and have a conversation. Maybe you'll find a grateful person and a new relationship. Maybe you'll find that your "original insight" isn't quite right itself or all that fabulous either in the end. Still, gratitude all around.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here as well!

[@enricopg2]

As a coincidence I had cancelled my subscription to Peter Farrell just the day before I saw your video. I felt something was not quite right with this guy. Now that I saw your video I am glad that I did it

[@ChaseMaddox]

Welcome back! 👍

[@TimNelson]

The topic of George Benson requires the respect that George has earned on the stage, and off. As the son of a frustrated weekend mandolin player, I was treated to a 1960s and 70s record collection featuring big time players like Howard Roberts, Jerry Reed, Joe Pass, Chet Atkins, Lester Flatt, Johnny Smith and more. As a 10-year-old, living in southern California, I was pretty hip to the spectacular players of the day. It was probably the only thing I was hip to. Later, this curious 15-year-old moved to the remote logging woods of Northern California. Our little town radio station received promo albums from artists outside the C&W genre that they’d never play. Stacks of cool new records filled the place. One was a George Benson album. Asking nicely enabled me to walk away with what looked to be a guitar album. Soon after, I was found collapsed on the floor in front of the console record player, unresponsive. Both my father and I wanted to know what Mr. Benson was doing, and HOW. His virtuosity was obvious, and beyond intelligent. It was so inspiring that it placed him at the top immediately. This album - one of the biggest selling jazz albums of all time - was a stunning introduction into a new world of guitar possibilities. The album was Breezin’, in 1976. So, to my point. After a long and successful career in the creative industry myself, I’m now struggling with the notion that I’ve succeeded in every creative endeavor I’ve undertaken - except for learning HOW Mr. Benson does his thing. Then you show up on the scene, Chase. What a breath of fresh air. There’s hope for me, yet. Even playing a GB-100, I’m still a limited player. But you’ve already helped me quickly reach satisfying steps toward a music goal set some 40 years ago. Don’t change a thing. What you’re doing is hugely valuable. Remember, you only get flack when you’re over the target.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your support, Tim! There's definitely hope for you!

[@JamesSeaberry]

By the way, Happy 81st, George!!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Yes indeed!

[@trevor807]

Class, and focusing on the guitar because thats all that matters. Useful perspective

[@ChaseMaddox]

That's what my channel is about, not the drama and name calling Peter wants to bring in.

[@palakido5711]

CHASE , YOU' RE DOING GREAT . I LOVE YOUR TEACHING . PETER , DON'T BE JEALOUS ; YOUR ARE A GREAT PLAYER ALSO.

[@robertnewell5057]

Came to this directly from your vids on Pat Martino and G Benson. What you said on each occasion made considerable sense to me and reflected closely my experience with my face-to-face teacher. I think what you said about P Farrell was generous, given the snippet of his comments I saw. I wouldn't dream of watching any of his stuff (however good it might or might not be) simply because of his behaviour. Who needs that. I will, however, be looking at your vid on Wes who was obviously a big influence on Benson and Pat. If what you have to say is anything like the quality of what you said about those two, I know it will be time well spent. Cheers.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you!

[@abcde3397]

Hi Chase. Thanks always for all the amazing contents you share on KZbin!. maybe this is not the right place to ask but does your Master 60 251 book cover minor 251s too?

[@DavidHendersonMusicChannel]

I've had the pleasure of watching Chase's video on 'The Secret of Two Chords,' and I've been fortunate enough to study with Peter Farrell, owning almost all of his books. My journey with Peter's Benson methods spans over six years, and my passion for guitar has filled over 50 years of my life. My time at Berklee in 1982, when it still had a strong jazz focus, was formative. Additionally, I've been enriched by studying Barry Green's lessons for over a decade. The concept of 'The Secret of Two Chords' was introduced to me by Peter Farrell, long before it appeared in any book. His interpretation, deeply rooted in his studies with GB, is thorough and nuanced, extending far beyond the major scale to include harmonic minor, melodic minor, and more. For instance, in major he teaches any chord without the 4th - so in C major for the I chord - Cmaj7, A-7, E-7 (G triad). He does not teach Fmaj7 over the C major I chord. Again, Peter goes so so much deeper into this Benson Concept!!
 I can understand why Peter might be upset. It's possible he feels that his work is being borrowed without proper acknowledgment, especially when the same title is used, and there's an admission of owning his book. This could be seen as too close for comfort. While I'm not passing judgment, I can empathize with Peter's perspective. Moreover, Peter's extensive collection of 10 to 20 books on this topic, sourced directly from the master, lends him a certain authority. Plus, have you ever heard Peter play? Go watch his YT videos playing with Adam Rogers - UNREAL!!!!

So, when he suggests that your teaching might not be fully accurate, he could have a valid point. Truly grasping this material would likely require direct study with GB or an in-depth exploration of Peter's books. Let me give you another example. I have seen you do Videos on “The Secret Jazz Chord.” Now the 1st time in 50 years of study I ever heard of that concept was from Barry Green. Again, this is directly from Barry’s incredible lesson on that topic. These concepts are incredibly niche and closely tied to specific educators who charge for their lessons. It's natural for individuals to feel protective of their work, especially when it's shared without full attribution or links to the original source. Disclaimer: Please understand that this is merely my speculation on potential reactions, simply one man's opinion, and not directly from the source. You are welcome to disagree. Reflecting on my 50 years of guitar study, I hold Peter Farrell and Barry Green in high esteem, ranking them among my top five teachers. Both are exceptional educators with unique content and approaches, offering insights far beyond what traditional music schools can provide. You should all check them out!!!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Hey David, thanks for your comment. There's a lot here to respond too, but I'll say this. I'm teaching my understanding of what Benson said when he talked about thinking in Major or minor, not saying this is the 'official' method that Peter discusses. You may or may not be aware that I studied with Barry Greene at UNF for 4 years, and in those videos I give him credit for that idea because I'm teaching the same concept Barry taught me. My recent Benson video was not based on Peter's Farrell's official GB method, which Peter even said in his livestream wasn't accurate to what he teaches.

[@michaelkiese7794]

Dude. This is guitar playing. This is music. This is art. There is no ultimate authority on anything. Anything you figure out is yours. Chase is just sharing what he figured out. Peter is just sharing what he figured out. The difference is Peter is the type of person who prices his ultimate combo package for $20,000. In the end, it all boils down to money and ego, which explains Peter’s poor behavior.

[@jeffereyjimenez6439]

@michaelkiese7794 Michael, you are right. The sad thing about today's music scene is that there is more money to be made selling jazz education than there ever was playing music for the masses to enjoy, save popular music. KZbin channels are not channels, but instead are KZbin businesses. But yeah, you are correct, it always comes down to money and so the art is lost.

[@DavidHendersonMusicChannel]

​@@ChaseMaddox Hey Chase, I knew this would turn into pissing contest. That's why you won't get a lot of feedback like this. I tried to say it as diplomatically as possible. I also included a disclaimer. You asked for feedback. I stand by my comments. You are great teacher and smart guy. Hopefully you will take what I said and Peter's reaction and learn from it.

[@arnieg65]

I learned this concept while studying with guitar teacher Rich Zellon back in 1989. The concept does not belong to Peter!

[@fabiolopes1351]

This guy, PF is just a frustrated man who doesn't know how to compose or play anything besides copying Benson's style (what he is very good at, after all it's the only thing he specialized on). It's his life, if it wasn't for this he wouldn't exist professionally, and I'm not just talking sh*t about the guy, it's just the truth (search for the very few songs in the internet that have his name as composer and it will reassure itself). His butthurt maybe it's because you used HIS name for a thing HE THINKS he INVENTED and brought to the world (playing 2 chords of a tonal center over a tonal harmony... 🤣 maybe in his head you're "stealing" some dollars from him too), and as he thinks he's some kind of Benson bastard son or something like this, wanting recognition as his one and only legitimate "musical heir", anyone who dares to talk Benson will be bad-mouthed (the problem is that Benson is a composer and a genius...). Regarding the methodology I've tried yours and I've tried his before, both have it's merits, but I think your vision using characteristic note/functions of the tonal center have more possibilities regarding harmonic nuances than just play C/Am up and down the neck. So just keep up with your good work.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment Fabio! Glad you found it helpful.

[@danielromero-si6xu]

Hi Chase, I'm Daniel from Argentina, I always follow your lessons, they are very valuable. As for the other guy, it seems to me that he was bitten by envy, as they say here in Argentina haha.... the guy feels upset because you are ahead of him, simply because He feels inferior to you, however I always saw that good musicians and guitarists speak well of their colleagues but this one surprised me because he is an exception to the rule and speaks of what a bad person he is... well, I continued with your videos that They are very instructive...strength that the entire guitar community supports you, a hug from Argentina

[@TimNelson]

@danielromero-si6xu You make great points. A friend of mine, Chris Cain -- an inspired blues performer with a great love for your country -- has forever exhibited respect and kindness for other musicians and instructors without fail for 50 years. By example, he passively instructs other players how to behave professionally, and everyone is better for it. Perhaps you know of Cain from his many visits to Argentina. Anyway, Farrell has failed in living up to the quiet expectations of professional musicians, and now appears thuggish and petty. We yanks use the term "chicken_s--t" to describe his behavior. Stay well, Daniel. Thanks again, Chase, for helping us learn the important stuff.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you Daniel! I appreciate your support! 🙏

[@danielromero-si6xu]

@@anneonym7346 I understand what you're saying and I agree, I'm just using Google Translate because I'm Argentinian and I've never really listened to it, but maybe what I wanted to refer to is that as someone who has guitar methods with someone very well known as is george benson and he explains things about benson, he has such an arrogant attitude, but well I see that the guy has the esteem for the ground haha

[@danielromero-si6xu]

@@ChaseMaddox siempre

[@fugasri]

Oh boy! What a mess. Hopefully, I don't add to it. First off, what you are teaching as "The Secret of the 2 Chords" is not the secret of the 2 chords. As far as what Peter is teaching anyway. What you are doing is showing how to use harmonic regions. Basically, the diatonic chords that can be derived from a major key center are categorized into 3 groups. Tonic: I, iii, vi - giving an at rest or home sound. Subdominant: ii, IV - shifting away from home, adding some distance and tension Dominant: vii, V - adding the most tension. These chords are used in a chord progression to create movement, tension, and excitement within a song. The idea of tension and release. When confronted with these chords in a song, as a soloist, you can use any of the chords within the same region to create your lines from. In the Dominant region, you might also be able to use chords from the subdominant region. For example: In the key of C major, when the band is highlighting a Cmaj chord(Tonic region) you could play lines derived from Cmaj, Emin, or Amin. if we then switch to a IV chord, Fmaj in the key of "C", this would coincide with the subdominant group, so lines incorporating Dmin and Fmaj also become available. Moving on to the V chord, Bmin7b5 and G7 ideas can be played. The tonic group is the most restricting allowing lines only from I, iii, vi. The subdominant group allows a little more freedom utilizing lines from both tonic and subdominant groups. The dominant group builds the most tension and freedom allowing you use both subdominant and dominant groups, as well as other types of scales and super impositions. All of this however, has to be filtered through listening to see if it works within the context of the song that you are playing. The "Secret of the 2 chords" is, at a basic level, a framework of visualization, that allows a simple way of visualizing the entire fretboard using two chords. a major chord and it's relative minor. In the key of Cmajor, you use a Cmajor chord and its relative minor, Am. Plotting these 2 chords across the fretboard gives you five positions that might simplify your ability to visualize where you are on the fretboard. Using Fmajor in the key of "C" (subdominant group), its relative minor is Dm. The same positions visualized for Cmajor are used, but shifted accordingly. This is just the basic framework of the secret of 2 chords to which a lot more is added. Regarding, the snippet that you posted, I think it is taken out of context. That page was discussing chord stacking to describe a mode in modal playing. Not chords that can be played over a Cmaj7 chord in the context of a chord progression in a song. Just below where you cut off was a list of the other modes built off of each degree of the scale. It was talking about how in the Cmajor family of chords, D dorain, E phrygian, F lydian and so on, all can use the same four chords (Cmaj7, Am7, Fmaj7, Dm7) to describe them. It just depends on the context of what music is being played underneath. In the end, "The Secret of the 2 Chords", "Harmonic regions" or whatever, are just labels to categorize ideas to make it easier to communicate to others. It doesn't matter what they are called, just as long as people agree and understand what is being communicated. I think this is where the confusion, misunderstanding and frustration comes in to play. Hope I cleared some stuff up. If not, sorry people, I tried.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I appreciate you taking the time to write this and try to clear things up. Based on what you said, Peter and I are talking about slightly different concepts. As I said in reply to another comment…I originally thought the Secret of the Two Chords was a term coined by Benson. If it is indeed Peter’s term, then I agree another title would’ve been a better choice to distinguish from his concept. However, when I asked Peter on his livestream if he had an issue with me using the same name in my title he said he did not, so his issue is not from me using that.

[@fugasri]

@@ChaseMaddoxNo problem here! Just thought it would clear up things for your viewers. Great videos by the way! Keep up the good work. I'm sure many people have made cognitive leaps from your content. Rock on dude!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you, appreciate the support! 🤘

[@robfirestone6158]

Early on in your post, you contrasted the secret of the 2 chords with harmonic region thinking. At the end, it sounded like they were basically the same thing?

[@fugasri]

@@robfirestone6158 The 2 chord thing is basically a location device used to visualize chords on the fretboard and help you get your bearings. A visual framework that you could then add other things to it once you have it cemented in your head. Because Cmajor and Am share a lot of the same notes, you can think of them as the same chord. If you allow that the Cmajor becomes Cmaj6 with the inclusion of the "A" note. They are both in the same Tonic region and can be resolved to as a home base. Completely depending on the context of the song of course. Using it to give you landmarks along the fretboard, you can then include the harmonic region stuff. Not sure if that made sense, but just think of the 2 chord thing as a visual fretboard aid and the Harmonic regions, or Diatonic groups as something that gives you other options to use over the chords you are expected to play over like how Chase explained in his video. Hope I didn't muck things up too much.

[@texaspete7897]

I've watched a few PF vids. He seldom actually explains the details behind what he is "teaching". I subscribed to your channel after watching one of your vids. You're clear on your topics and are generous with the theory behind what you are covering. You keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about Peter Farrell. BTW, I am 63 and have been playing for 50 years. You never stop learning and the longer you have played, the more you gravitate towards the real people that you can learn from. You should be very proud of your abilities as a musical educator. And as a guitarist. Thanks

[@ChaseMaddox]

One of the biggest difference between Peter and myself is our different philosophies of teaching. Thanks for your comment!

[@robertm3951]

Criticizing someone's teaching method is fine but that is no reason for name calling.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I wish he would put out a video explaining this concept and where I went wrong so we could all learn! But in his livestream he said it would take a lifetime for him to teach it 😂

[@markwscrivener]

Keep doing what you do Chase, you rock! Any guitar teacher who feels threatened by another teacher and feels the need to attack them obviously has issues. Music is subjective and you have the right approach - talk about the "why" not just the "how", let people decide for themselves what they like. No one is a total authority in music - if YOU like it then it is right for YOU....theory is just trying to find the patterns in what we like. Again, your approach is spot on. Keep it up! I am a private guitar teacher. More blues/rock/pop, but some jazz. I never try to keep my students away from other teachers, and frequently point them at other resources when I like someone's presentation. I'm also really big on the "why". I agree 100% with your approach. Thank you! Oh, and I remind my students that everything I teach them is out there for free somewhere - no one "owns" any of this, there are no secrets. I am a coach and a guide, not the sole repository of truth. You obviously have the same philosophy.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Glad you agree with my approach! Thanks for watching!

[@ralphthomson2680]

I’ve always been very wary of that guy. I’ve heard various things about him over the years. Love your channel Chase keep up the great work. And I agree don’t play dmin or F maj over Cmaj7 😃

[@bronzewand]

He definitely didn't learn any manners from George

[@rodrigogouveiaoficial]

You work is awesome! Haters everywhere 😂

[@ChaseMaddox]

They sure are!

[@Kifferei]

this is one of the better guitar teaching channels i have found. you really give a lot of detailed examples and exercises for free while other channels seem to be purposefully vague in an attempt to get ppl to buy their courses. kinda funny that dude is so mad tbh. maybe its bc his videos don't even get close to the views that's yours do. maybe there's a reason for that...

[@ChaseMaddox]

I'm glad you dig my channel! 👍

[@guitarandknivesetc4219]

thank you for the infos that you are sharing. just do what you're doing. spread good vibes and love!

[@michaelmerrullo2043]

Who's Peter Ferrell 😂

[@luapago]

😂😂😂

[@teddypantelas]

I love how you didn’t get involved in the drama. Life is too short for drama. You’ve got your thing and it’ speaks for itself. You never have to defend yourself when you’re being true to yourself, giving from your heart and experience so generously. Sticks and stones is not a game worth playing. It’s great you know that. Keep Chasin the Trane! A little play on words all in good spirit. Never give up!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! I appreciate the support 🙏

[@tristan.r.l4753]

that Peter guy is toxic. I've seen comments he made in a past video of yours, it was enough for me to never watch anything he does again

[@ChaseMaddox]

You won't see any comments on his videos since he turned them off after that last interaction 😃

[@pvillez]

Good guitarists, there 1000s on here. Good teacher's who communicate transformative stuff, like you do, are simply rare, a handfule. I know as I taught professionally for 40 years. You are much appreciated as a teacher. All he achieved with his insults was to increase your sub count not his. You got my sub. btw I discovered you through the Martino "Secret One Chord" video. thanks, great tutorial.

[@dogsbreath2222]

Jealousy is a terrible thing

[@willarddickerson921]

I appreciate you and everything that you have shared with me. Please do not pay attention to those hatters. A real musician would provide constructive criticism versus insults. Don't stop doing what you are doing.

[@kidklava]

I've been studying Peter's method for a few years, and I'd say I'm a huge advocate for what he's teaching. That said, it's very disappointing to see him speak so poorly about another teacher like that. I'll put it down to his fiery latin spirit, but I hope he does learn to direct his criticism with more elegance. As far as the Secret of Two Chords thing goes, Peter does explain how they're grouped and the logic of it all, but his recent content is so bitty and randomly cut together that it's very hard to get a handle on it unless you watch some of his earlier long-form videos where he really does lay it out in a digestible linear form. Once you get to grips with it, it's an earth-shatteringly powerful way of visualising and simplifying things on the fretboard. It was a revelation for me. The example you included where he mentions Emin is him playing ascending arpeggios in Cmaj. That Emin is included has literally nothing to do with the Secret of Two Chords, which is a very specific concept. I suspect Peter may have lost his temper because you're using the term "Secret of Two Chords", which he coined (correct me if I'm wrong on that), so it may be a little galling for him to see you talk about it publicly without fully understanding it. That doesn't excuse the name-calling by any means.

[@raybart5604]

Well I played through Stella earlier using the method as you explained it and I sounded and felt better. Great video - job done. Dignified response.

[@ChaseMaddox]

That's what I care about! Glad it worked for you 👍

[@XBreD]

Shaun Baxter had a video on soloing through changes, the logic of the secret of 2 chords was shared too but not delivered as such but viewing it as functional harmony of tonic, sub dominant and dominant. and i think youre also sharing the same knowledge your way and i believe its the same with peter farrell, all in all these are the things we growing musicians should be thankful for shining the light on these topics to help us grow so thank you chase for taking time to do these and spread the education to others your own way. spread the love guys. thats what music does at the end of the day, bringing pple together. Cheers!

[@ChaseMaddox]

I'm not familiar with Shaun Baxter, but I'll check out his approach as well. Thanks for your comment!

[@lachlanmacleay6407]

This guy should send you a thank you note (old old school)- Before your post I’d never heard of the dude and I’ve been around (in a good way) Your explanations were very clear and your examples very useful And thanks for your civility- There’s enough toxic waste in our world.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Glad you found my examples useful! I won't go down to his level 👍

[@silver10gold]

Although I respect Peter as a guitarist he needs to remember that George Benson is always respectful about other musicians and teachers and would never have responded the way Peter did. Peter could simply have put out a video explaining Benson's two chord method without criticism of anyone else from his perspective. The reason Benson is so highly regarded is not just his phenomenal playing but also his humility, respect and the encouragement he gives to others. Music is not a competition and musical knowledge does not give anyone the right to be disrespectful.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Well said! 👍

[@josdurkstraful]

I used to watch PF's video's out of professional interest (I am a guitar teacher with 37 years of experience and did the conservatory time). i once commented on something, forgot what it was. His answers wre really unpleasant, putting me down like some idiot. He lacks some social skills that are VERY important to have as a teacher. Other than that, he is always yelling Benson this and Benson that..... That reminds me of a teacher I had when studying classical guitar: he was always yelling Segovia this, Segovia that.... I hated that. If you don't have to say anything for yourself maybe don't teach at all. So: bye bye Peter Farell!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Unfortunately you're not the only one who has had this experience with him. Thanks for your comment!

[@jlr022159]

Peter tends to rip through lick after lick and then look at the camera and smile as if he’s just taught you something. He doesn’t really explain it or show you any finger movements he just rips through a bunch of licks. I mean I know you can slow the video down and that’s fine, that’s his teaching method versus yours. I can appreciate different methods and I don’t think there’s any room for name-calling from Peter, after all this is not a contest it’s just about learning guitar music. I appreciate the way you take time to explain what you’re doing.

[@bookert2373]

My experience exactly. Farrell just turns on the camera and starts riffing and talking - sorry, that’s not teaching, it’s just an ego trip. I appreciate Chase’s work in logically organizing this material - it is helpful and respectful of his audience. BTW, if Farrell is concerned about ‘ownership’ of a concept, then I guess he should also attack those who write books on any subject. Concepts cannot be copyrighted - everyone has the right to I explain a concept in his/her own style. His demeanor in the video matches perfectly my initial reaction to his sales videos years ago.

[@ChaseMaddox]

The goal here on my channel is definitely about learning how to play guitar 👍

[@thesuncollective1475]

Jazz beef😂😂😂 Your simplified approach is fine, we just talking about a two note difference

[@ChaseMaddox]

Hahaha

[@ahdrx]

Peter is a weird guy, perhaps his content is too advanced for me. His pics with George seem photoshopped and I have a somber theory about their relationship that involves a lawsuit settlement but I'll keep that to myself.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I have no knowledge of any of that. I wouldn't make arbitrary claims about Peter. But thank you for your comment and watching.

[@richardokkerse]

Chase, you are awesome. I keep telling my students to check out your channel as there’s so much they can get out of it. Keep doing your thing brother. You know how it is… haters will be haters… and for the record, obviously ONLY Mr Benson himself knows what goes through his mind when he’s playing 😂😂 Like you said, it’s your own take on this (or whatever) material from personal experience, knowledge, listening, teachers, fellow musicians, etc. All the best Chase!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Awesome! Thank you! I appreciate you sending other guitarists my way! 🙌

[@mwpv11]

Being a musician for many years, I can honestly say if someone is teaching guitar no matter what method they use, there is no room for name calling or disparaging another instructor. That is purely juvenile, and totally unprofessional. Instructors should stick with their subjects on their channels and share it with their followers. It seems to me Peter is always trying to legitimize himself with his Benson relationship rather than gain support by showing his ability and something worthwhile. Unfortunately the music business is full of people who constantly compare themselves with others and put down other players when music is really about sharing and helping to make each other better. I try to play with people that i know are better at the skill than I am, because I can learn from them. Thus they help me get better. I never would say another teacher is an ass or inferior or doing it wrong because no one gains anything from that type of rhetoric. So Chase, my two cents for what it is worth, keep doing what you are doing, your explanations are clear, concise and professional and your examples are always easy to follow. You always take the high road which will do you much better in the long run. Peter may have studied with Benson but I am sure Benson would not approve of is conduct either. Good luck with your channel and keep up the good work. Best of luck!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! I believe that is the correct way to go about it too.

[@mwpv11]

I just watched two of Peter's video's on You Tube to see how they were. He is a good player but unfortunately needs some lessons in how to teach. He describes somewhat what he is doing but fails to show the students how to do it. He talks about why not to just play around the chords in improvising but doesn't show how to do it. After watching his two video's I have to say I would not hire him as a teacher not for lack of ability but for lack of how to communicate his lesson well enough for the student to understand it or to copy it . Again just my two cents as a guitar instructor since 1964. @@ChaseMaddox

[@xavriley]

Having someone say things about you on the internet is a terrible feeling, and I'm sorry for the stress this probably caused you. I'm just going to throw in my 2 cents as someone who's studied with Barry Greene and Peter Farrell for several years each and hopefully offer some other perspectives. Firstly, I think the extract you're pulling from his book might be a typo - I know this sounds like an excuse but hear me out :) - I've studied Peter's videos for ages and I've never seen him advocate Dm7 and Fmaj7 over Cmaj7. I've seen him do a lot of the Cmaj/Am7/Em7 stuff you mentioned though. I think the initial point you make is the same, but there's a lot more nuance in Peter's further lessons about harmonic regions that make it more than just "you can play Am7 over Cmaj7". I think the timing of this should also be taken into account - clearly with the Beato interview both you and Peter are seeing an uptick of interest and trying to ride the wave - that's cool. If you're both releasing videos every day using the same words to describe your approaches then it's bound to cause some friction. "I understand that Peter wants to hide his secrets behind his paywall" - I get what you're saying but I'm not sure this is 100% fair. You have to consider that Peter has basically devoted his life to the books and the method he's made with a fair amount of personal sacrifice in terms of flying out to spend time with Benson, filming the lessons, analysing them afterwards etc. Anyone who's watched the Benson + Jody Fischer videos or Benson's art of jazz guitar knows that Benson himself is *not* a good communicator of his own ideas and concepts. It exists at a level beyond language with him (Benson) and he has trouble verbalising it. I know Riche Hart (himself and incredible player and teacher) tried to decode Benson and didn't really succeed. IMO Peter has done an amazing service to the jazz guitar world to spend time with Benson breaking it down at a level that no one else has managed yet. With that in mind, his pricing reflects two things - one is the work that he put in over years and years and years which he never got paid for. The other is that the market will bear those prices and Peter is doing what he needs to do to make a living. Yes, it's not nice for those of us who can't afford it. Yes it's ok to feel annoyed about that situation. But it doesn't seem fair to characterise Peter as someone who's trying to hide something - he's trying to provide for his family same as any of us would do. I think there's also a cultural/language barrier aspect to this - as a well educated, white male American, your words and demeanour have a power that you maybe don't appreciate fully. In this beef I think a lot of people will side with you because you come across as "professional" and "reasonable" (which you are!) and similarly, people will come away with a worse impression of Peter because his Brazilian sensibilities aren't what they're used to. I'm not sure there's a solution here but I'd say we should cut him some slack. My guess is that he's had to overcome a lot of challenges to get where he is. As someone who studied Barry's material online for a long time, I feel like we have that base in common. My honest recommendation would be to actually check Peter's stuff out in depth from step 1 - I think you'd get a lot out of it. I know that it helped me make huge leaps in my own playing. I could play before but I'm feeling a sense of freedom that I didn't think was possible given that I'm not a full time musician. If you don't want to go for the books the smart bright lessons he has on his site are a bargain for the price.

[@clifflisette]

Keep doing what you are doing Chase. You're helping people and you're doing it for free. He did it to a friend of mine a few years ago. That friend is not a teacher but in some way he captured that GB style. Our friend P was not happy and talk sh.t about him. 😂

[@ChaseMaddox]

I sure will! 👍

[@kevinmaddox]

Well said brother! I think Peter’s own words show what kind of person he is. Now on to the next lesson video!

[@ChaseMaddox]

On to the next!

[@derekwilkinsonmusic]

Thank you for all that you do here! Your content is always awesome!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you, Derek! 👍

[@richmalloy2308]

I have no idea who Peter Farrell is? It appears he needs to visit a behavioral health clinic to avoid a “mental disorder” diagnosis as defined in the DSM-5”? I joined Chase’s Guitar Academy four months ago and have made more progress than I’ve ever had with any other teacher or program. Chase is a “serious” professional on a mission to ensure aspiring guitarists to reach their goals. You do the work and he will support you every step of the way.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for the support, Rich! It's been a pleasure working with you in CGA!

[@whiteplayon]

To the host. Different strokes for different folks! The one thing that you don't have to do is apologize for the good that you're doing. Peter is a good player and instructor, let hope his maturity catches up with his talent.

[@quinton99]

Thanks for the lessons Chase. Please make more George Benson videos.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I will! For right now I have other videos planned 👍

[@Meenjedatnou]

I enjoy your lessons, they are very clear and well thought through. George Benson is an absolute icon and everyone wants to know his secrets. If you can do more on his playing that would be highly appreciates!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks! I'll still do lessons on Benson when I have something new to share 👍

[@karlstephenne6299]

I did found your lesson very useful. And you are indeed a very good communicator.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! Glad it was useful.

[@palakido5711]

PETER , YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE THAT WAS WRONG ; TO USE THIS LANGUAGE TOWARDS THIS GUY.

[@darkoperkovic5544]

Just to give you support! I've learned a lot from your videos, the language he used is uncalled for completely. Keep on the good work!

[@RFGuitarist]

I think this guy has shown his true colours by doing what he did. The fact of the matter is, if you know something about harmony, you can decipher what GB is doing or in fact any player; you transcribe and analyse what the ingredients are, and then you will come to understand what's going on(except for the bit about getting the info from GB in person); that's the way it's always been, all the players in history have done the same in order to learn. Obviously in this day and age, there are other tools and mediums for learning like here on KZbin through instructional vids and with the speed function to slow the tempo. I always watch his vids because the material is good and I wanted to buy his books when they were released, but after seeing the price he's charging for them, i stuck to the tried and true method, "if you want to learn something, listen and analyse then practice until you get it". What you do on this channel is great, PF has shown that he will fully throw shade on people's material to protect what he does, he's scared that someone will discover a way to do this without what he is selling; when anyone with a brain, ears, the will to learn and some understanding of music can work this out. Keep doing what you're doing, it's great!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your support 🙏

[@kraigphillips9121]

Your breakdown of the Beato interview was spot on! And your concepts and ideas are right on the money as well

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! 🙏

[@kraigphillips9121]

Interestingly, the greatest guitarists I’ve met (and I’ve met most all my faves) are never condescending nor negative, in fact they are the most open and approachable as players ther are. GB obviously has different gears and antenna than mortals, he also expressed that he was always only interested in copping the intent of other players, never copying. Which is more of your concept, keep up the good work!

[@danielromero-si6xu]

Don Quijote said to Sancho 'when dogs bark it is a sign that we are riding', referring to the derogatory criticism of those who are one step higher and denotes envy, all said......keep it up Chase, bark because you are going one step ahead

[@ChaseMaddox]

Wise words, Daniel! 🤘

[@wolfchapz7669]

This probably doesn’t mean shit and you probably won’t read this but I make a living playing jazz guitar. I studied with the legendary jack Petersen and many other large names. I teach at a college and literally just finished a tour with a Big Band. I took one “lesson “ from Peter and all he did was try to sell me some BS package to go to Brazil for like 10grand. Then he talked mad shit about Jonathan Kreisberg and Adam Rogers the whole time and I was like completely annoyed. Peter can play some mimic benson shit but he’s kind of an asshole and charges laughable prices. He preys on guitarists who don’t know anything. Avoid him 100percent That being said don’t sweat him. Most “jazz guitar KZbinrs “ annoy me anyway but honestly your content is great. I also bought one of your II V I books a year or so back to see what it was all about. You’re doing good stuff. Keep it legit

[@ChaseMaddox]

I read pretty much all the comments and try to respond to as many as I can. I appreciate your comment sharing your experience with Peter and for supporting what I do 🙏

[@Poparad]

That's a bummer to hear. I've worked with both Kriesberg and Rogers as educational guests at the universities I've attended and taught at and they're both wonderful people who are very open and encouraging to students.

[@davidsorensen4400]

Yeah , not a productive attitude, I wouldn’t want to be around that guy .

[@ChaseMaddox]

Not productive at all, thanks for your comment.

[@tommyho1719]

Don't worry about it, just do what you think is right for your students and have fun teaching and playing guitar.keep on jazzing

[@ChaseMaddox]

That’s the goal! 🤘

[@micahcarlsen2523]

Go forth and multiply Peter! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@scalibur56]

first things first, lets admit it.. when it comes to learning about benson there really is no better/closer teachings anywhere than Peters material. secondly, lets not throw the term "paywall" around when you also do it brother. everyone gatekeeps info on the internet, it's the way of the world. (does it suck for us who dont have much extra cash? yes. but not surprising) thirdly, yes there's some toxicity coming from his side but i also feel like some acknowledgement in any capacity towards him was due in your video of the 2 chords, as he is the guy who shared that specific methology first. i understand that may drive some potential students his way, but even a "theres another teacher named.. he also teaches this.." would've been enough. this is just high tier elitism. when you're as good and wise, obv some entitlement and ego is bound to arise and lets face it, he's probably top 100 if not top 50 guitarist in the world in terms of playability and knowledge.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Based on the comments on my last Benson video, I don't think Peter's teaching method is as effective as he claims. Although he does teach the 'official' Benson method. I'm not teaching Peter's method. This is my understanding of Benson's approach to thinking of everything in major and minor.

[@scalibur56]

@@ChaseMaddox i feel that. tbh we just need a peter x chase collab at this point.

[@scalibur56]

i mean i'd like to know who these better guitarist are, besides the popular zoomer instagram guitarists, for ex i think Olli Soikkeli & joscho stephan outrank peter. i'm not saying he's a good teacher, a good person & maybe live there aren't recent examples of peter playing well but the guy knows his theory & can walk the walk. like i said its just elitism, "my way or the highway", in any walk of life at "high ranks" you'll encounter these behaviors.. at the end of the day you let the guitar do the talking. probs all a little subjective too. @@anneonym7346

[@steveezzoentertainment1870]

If you take out all of the vitriol (Peter obviously has some issues), Peter is an amazing player with deep knowledge. The problem is, he is not a very good teacher. He rambles, plays all of his examples like he is trying to show off his technique (too fast) and offers little or no explanation. Some of this may be due to his desire to sell over-priced books, but basically he is an intermediate level teacher at best, despite being a first-class player. I have taken workshops with some very well known guitarists that were the same way, played their asses off but could not teach at all. Chase, you are both a great player and teacher

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment and support, Steve!

[@steveezzoentertainment1870]

@@anneonym7346 Now you’re being like Peter. “Get some education and some ears”. You know nothing about me, I’ve been playing professionally for 52 years. The players you mentioned are also great players. You sound like a sports fan saying “my team is better than yours” Grow up!

[@skiadikt]

chase keep up the good work and don't let this guy get under your skin. apparently he felt you were ripping him off. i for one appreciated your lesson. clearly he somehow felt "threatened" and lashed out. interestingly in perhaps a nod to this post, he posted, "george benson method and peter farrell finally exposed" and had a bunch of musicians with testimonials to how wonderful his method is. maybe it is but the money he's charging is out of reach for most of us. don't listen to this jerk and keep up the good work.

[@ChaseMaddox]

He had made a different video in response to this video of mine, but deleted it after getting many negative comments. Seems like he wanted a redo with all of his fans supporting him in the comments.

[@ijavier78]

I can’t understand half of what Peter says anyway. So I’ll stick to Chase’s channel.

[@arilenat]

To try to judge this and I appreciate both Chase and Peter channels, I would say that Peter overeacted and said unacceptable things about you Chase and that was wrong. On the other hand, Peter has worked tremendously on his books and videos with some concepts that I am sure were not expressed directly from Benson. Benson is probably not the best teacher ( remember his video that art of the jazz guitar?, great for examples but difficult to internalise in your playing). Also because his musicality is so rich. I am pretty sure Peter had to reconceptualise what was in the mind of the genius. So Peter did this with some catchy concepts like « the secret of the 2 chords ». The only thing I would say to you Chase is that it was inelegant to « copy » the exact catchy phrase (the secret of the 2 chords) « invented » by Peter. You could have say something like the Benson 2 chords concept and it would have been fine ( in the Beato interview, Benson mentions he only thinks 2 chords but he doesn’t speak about the secret). Obviously, words or concepts are not easily protected but It would have been nicer to do what you did in your great lesson with other words/title. I also much apreciated your presentation of the differences between you and Peter in the chord choices and I look forward to your future lessons. Today is George’s birthday!!! I am a fan ( the word is too weak for him) since 50 years!!

[@jimdolinski8655]

When I saw "secret of two chords". I knew sparks would fly. That's Peter's claim first and foremost. You inadvertently struck a nerve.

[@mugiwaranoDave]

Yep. Exactly that. I think of secret of the two chords as some kind of a trademark that Peter uses to base this methodology on. Peter also uses this concept on a much deeper level while Chase really simplified it which can make this method be seen as basic as the idea of what chords to play an when, but it’s much more than that and the way this hurts the concept ‘reputation’ can hurt Peter as well. So it was not cool to name the video this way imo

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your comment. I agree with you that I should have picked a different title for my video since my approach isn't the same as Peter's.

[@mugiwaranoDave]

@@ChaseMaddox you have my respect for saying that Chase, after everything that happens in the last couple of days 💯

[@ValirAmaril]

He can have his opinion, but there was no need for the name-calling, its embarrassing for an adult

[@ChaseMaddox]

That's his personality 🤷‍♂️

[@jetn8654]

I LOVE George Benson's playing and see him as a genius of the guitar. What impresses me the most is how humble, generous, and how complimentary to other players he is. His "always classy" vibe makes him seem bigger than life in his interviews, and like he would just be a pleasure to be around. I want to learn this, more than learning his licks and phrases.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Well said!

[@soulbrutha23]

Let me say as a man who has traveled the world over with Mr Benson 15+years as his stage manager & backline tech, his brother and friend he is the coolest most humble guy I have ever met and he doesn't have a bad word to say about not 1 single person. Even when others have come around speaking negatively he very nicely corrects them and dismisses the negativity.

[@ChaseMaddox]

I appreciate your comment and experience on this matter!

[@Guitarinthewoods]

Chase, you’re an excellent teacher, player and communicator. I’ve never heard of the other guy but dissing another player/teacher is really bad form. You dealt with this nonsense in a respectful and grown up way. Keep up the good work.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for your support!

[@chrisshipp7514]

Keep up the good work, Chase. The bottom line is that what you are saying works musically--and it is something that Benson does all of the time. It is unfortunate that some people use foul language when they present and disparage others. Don't let that discourage you. It is obvious from your work product that you have a strong grasp of jazz music, are an excellent player and work very hard to present material in a way that helps others learn.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks Chris 🙏 I appreciate your thoughts and having you as a member of Chase’s Guitar Academy 🤘

[@pedrocouto164]

Hey! It’s Pedro from Brazil. Actually I’m not so much into watching online material such as this (nothing against) but I remember (when I was just in my MIDTEENS trying to understand jazz) Peter was a friend of mine in Facebook and busted a video of me playing. Instead of giving constructive criticism he likes to offend people and tell that he is right. Of course he can play but the greatest thing this dude did was born rich and pay for lessons with Benson… From time to time he likes to argue in the Jazz Guitar forum, it’s always funny to see this dude going out of his head telling everybody is wrong and he is right about everything… whatever

[@aadityakiran_s]

You're a very good guitar player and I appreciate your methods. I personally have gained some knowledge from you. Thank you so much for your effort.

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thank you! Glad to have helped you 🙏

[@winstonsmith8240]

Constructive arguments are one thing, ad hominem attacks are another. Pathetic. As an older educated player, I find your videos very useful, and always respectful of the subject matter you're dealing with. Just keep doing what you do. 👍

[@ChaseMaddox]

I’m glad you enjoy my videos! 🙏

[@Jamesisnotdead]

It seems you explain what would be charged by a certain other $hundreds, entirely for free in your summary, with exercises and application. I find it rather hubristic that one can assume ownership over the Bensonian brand/technique just because one is very good at it in practice.

[@Samyham007]

Thanks for your all your videos. Don't let this guy talk trash about you, you are doing a lot of great things for all guitar players across the world and I learned tons of stuff from you. Thanks again dude!

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks for watching! If Peter wants to talk about me on his channel, that is his prerogative. If people want to learn from my approach to guitar, they can get that here 👍

[@mannoplanet]

I liked your secrets video but I was waiting for you to explain if you "found" this secret or the "secret" is a thing that is out there. As David Henderson says below I can see why Peter would be unhappy if you took the concept from him with no credit. But no worries, your teaching is so concise in comparison... to many out there.

[@ChaseMaddox]

There are no 'secrets'. I use the word 'secret' because it's helpful to get people to click on the video on KZbin. In this case, I'm showing how some fundamental music theory ideas that CMaj.7, E-7, and A-7 can be substitutes because they share chord tones. My teaching on this isn't the way Peter teaches it, by his own admission. I'm connecting to the recent Benson interview where he says he only thinks of Major and minor.

[@glennlysack5846]

What the hell is this guy’s problem?

[@ChaseMaddox]

Might be a few problems here!

[@pedalsteelguitarjazzbebop4889]

Classy and professional answer.

[@ChaseMaddox]

thank you! 🙏

[@JosiahManganyi-xs8bi]

Most music schools are jealous of "You Tube"teachers!Its easy to learn and can always rewind what you learn!

[@JazzmanAsbell-fo5mb]

Keep teaching, you are a great teacher. I can understand your way of teaching better and I been playing for over 50 years. Keep up the good work! Thank You. JazzMan Asbell On The Guitar 🎸

[@ChaseMaddox]

Thanks, will do! 🤘